I have a lifted Suzuki Jimny which is 1100kg (2425 pounds) weight certainly is a big factor in its capability off road. I'm looking forward to the 5-door jimny coming to New Zealand next year as with 2 kids now i want that extra room and access to the back seats. Its a good balance of weight and Size, from memory its only an extra 94 kg (207 pounds) being 340mm (13.4) longer.
I think it's worth mentioning that this is just one philosophy for off roading, but it's not THE definitive philosophy. Some people view off roading as like a vehicle based obstacle course, but others see it as a way to get out into the country. Whether weight will matter to you will depend on the job you're building your rig for... keep that in mind. Remember that when an off-road buddy looks at your rig and says "that would never get over [insert obstacle here]!" you can just say "I don't want to go over [insert obstacle here]". There's literally no point spending $20k+ building out a lightweight rig that could take the toughest trail at moab if you live in Northern BC and enjoy doing muddy logging trails to camp at remote lakes.
I agree to an extent, but even if you are doing muddy logging trails you can benefit from a vehicle that is lighter. The engine doesn’t have to work as hard, the suspension doesn’t have to work as hard. All the components we add increase weight, so if you can get aluminum skid plates instead of steel or a smaller winch, I still think it is worthwhile.
I run as light as possible but also as stock as possible. Lockers lift and aggressive tires. Not so big that I need regeared. It’s cheaper but I do get stuck from time to time but that’s what the winch is for.
you are absolutely correct on the toyota guys being way overloaded. i see guys with 6000lb. tacomas. way overloaded. most of them drive around all the time with all this extra gear. wish all the broverlanders could see this.
Absolutely! Heavy rigs, stuck pigs! I still don’t understand how and why Toyota made the Tacoma so weak, though. That open-C chassis and the composite bed is a serious impediment.
I have the same steering wheel hanging in my shop. I also have a 95 Tracker 4x4 1.6 16 valve 5 speed that I plan on building. I also have a couple of C4 Corvette's and one went in the ditch last year so it might get blended into the Tracker in ways that are happy.
I hear ya on saving weight wherever possible but if you're going that far why have sheet metal? Just make it a tube buggy. Other than maybe keeping it street legal, which matters in some places I guess but not where I'm from.
That is a fair question. I live an hour from the Rubicon and Fordyce, and both those trails you start and finish in different places, street legality was important to me. Jesse Haines wanted to use full hydraulic steering but I wanted a steering box for street use also. It is a compromise but one that I was willing to make since I often drive to and from the trail.
A lot! That’s the downside of a vehicle with basically no aftermarket support. Every single part is custom and has a ton of fabrication time in it. The parts are reasonably priced though and the original purchase price was only $3k. If you can do your own fab work it is pretty affordable.
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All the Toyota boys heads just exploded when you mentioned them overloaded their rigs, but you're absolutely right.
I’ll do a more overlanding specific follow up in the near future. 👍
That's all the land rover boiis over here in ye olde ingland 😂
I have a lifted Suzuki Jimny which is 1100kg (2425 pounds) weight certainly is a big factor in its capability off road. I'm looking forward to the 5-door jimny coming to New Zealand next year as with 2 kids now i want that extra room and access to the back seats. Its a good balance of weight and Size, from memory its only an extra 94 kg (207 pounds) being 340mm (13.4) longer.
That's why the willys Jeep was such a great off-road rig for the day lightweight low gears. I agree lightweight low gears good suspension good tires
I think it's worth mentioning that this is just one philosophy for off roading, but it's not THE definitive philosophy. Some people view off roading as like a vehicle based obstacle course, but others see it as a way to get out into the country. Whether weight will matter to you will depend on the job you're building your rig for... keep that in mind. Remember that when an off-road buddy looks at your rig and says "that would never get over [insert obstacle here]!" you can just say "I don't want to go over [insert obstacle here]". There's literally no point spending $20k+ building out a lightweight rig that could take the toughest trail at moab if you live in Northern BC and enjoy doing muddy logging trails to camp at remote lakes.
I agree to an extent, but even if you are doing muddy logging trails you can benefit from a vehicle that is lighter. The engine doesn’t have to work as hard, the suspension doesn’t have to work as hard. All the components we add increase weight, so if you can get aluminum skid plates instead of steel or a smaller winch, I still think it is worthwhile.
Gravel pit sits also usually have weigh stations to weigh your vehicles. They usually charge under $10.
Thanks Wyatt good to know!
That’s how I envision my Samurai ending up as. Lots of great ideas!
I run as light as possible but also as stock as possible. Lockers lift and aggressive tires. Not so big that I need regeared. It’s cheaper but I do get stuck from time to time but that’s what the winch is for.
Good way to keep your wallet from getting too light!
Nail on the head. I wheel a 86 Samurai. I love this car. Nothing is more fun than showing up Jeeps. 😁
you are absolutely correct on the toyota guys being way overloaded. i see guys with 6000lb. tacomas. way overloaded. most of them drive around all the time with all this extra gear. wish all the broverlanders could see this.
Same with the JKs..
They bring the whole damn house. Even on some tow trucks these things would put it overweight.
Absolutely! Heavy rigs, stuck pigs! I still don’t understand how and why Toyota made the Tacoma so weak, though. That open-C chassis and the composite bed is a serious impediment.
I don’t mind the bed but I don’t love the C channel from with no payload capacity.
I get my vehicle weight at the dump's scales when I get rid of used oil. Probably not the most accurate but gives a good ballpark weight.
super nice guy explained everything with detail..
#bestbuild #nicerig
I love that Tracker, so cool👍
I have the same steering wheel hanging in my shop. I also have a 95 Tracker 4x4 1.6 16 valve 5 speed that I plan on building. I also have a couple of C4 Corvette's and one went in the ditch last year so it might get blended into the Tracker in ways that are happy.
I love your Tracker man!!
Thanks Brad!
That tracker is awesome.
Thanks!
This is why you hardly ever see 2 door wranglers on the street but a bunch on the trail!
OMG, this is amazing!!
Such a cool and well done build 👌🏼
Awesome video !!!
I know You are sponsored by Nitto, but lightweight wheels are crucial when it comes to performance. And we all know that😉
My Ultra4 samurai is 2750! That’s why it’s so fast. Lol.
I have one of each size as well. Weight is always a thought
I've always wondered about if too light is a thing? I am gonna try to build something 1200lbs-ish to find out.....
Only if it's top-heavy. Center of gravity matters a lot when crawling.
Weight is king in off road.
Great video
Awesome information. Being new to 4x4 I'd like to know how much weight matters in mud and sand. Thanks.
I would say it matters a lot. If you look at the most capable sand rails they are typically minimalist with a great power to weight ratio.
@@HarrySituations Thanks.
It’s weird how many guys with 1970’s Ford’ also have samurais or trackers, me to
Wow!
Epic build!!
My can am side by side weighs sub 2k on 32's. It humbles my K5 on 40's offroad...
my tacoma on tons weighs 1150 with 112 gallons of fuel and 900 lbs of coffee beans.
Jimmy ja11 1600 lbs on 27s ,stripped out
I hear ya on saving weight wherever possible but if you're going that far why have sheet metal? Just make it a tube buggy. Other than maybe keeping it street legal, which matters in some places I guess but not where I'm from.
That is a fair question. I live an hour from the Rubicon and Fordyce, and both those trails you start and finish in different places, street legality was important to me. Jesse Haines wanted to use full hydraulic steering but I wanted a steering box for street use also. It is a compromise but one that I was willing to make since I often drive to and from the trail.
I weigh in at 3200 lbs in a yj on 35s rn
I wonder how much Cost to build something like that
A lot! That’s the downside of a vehicle with basically no aftermarket support. Every single part is custom and has a ton of fabrication time in it. The parts are reasonably priced though and the original purchase price was only $3k. If you can do your own fab work it is pretty affordable.
lol my old truck was 8900 it was a bit crazy.
Bro you just talked about your rig, you didn't explain how lightweight is better at all, wtf
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