2017 Moto Guzzi MGX-21 Flying Fortress Review
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2016
- Moto Guzzi’s first step into the bagger fray comes in the form of a high-zoot, carbon-fiber bodywork with attention-getting bright red highlights. The MGX makes a strong first impression with its 21-inch cast wheel that has a shapely carbon cover installed along with a carbon front fender. While the fairing itself isn’t carbon fiber, the semi-matt surface treatment of the black plastic combines with the similarly colored paint on the fork covers to give a multi-tonal play on black surfaces. The fairing’s angular lines pull the eye back over the sleek tank to the swooping arcs of the hard bags. The red cam covers call attention to the fact that the MGX is not a cookie-cutter V-Twin.
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I am not a lover of baggers but would not hesitate to own one of these. Solid looking bike no doubt.
I past year I test rode an Indian Chieftain, Triumph Commander and a Harley Fat Boy. All the bikes had their merits although the first two lacked a bit of personality. Then I tried a Moto Guzzi Eldorado. ( same engine as Flying Fortress) 10 seconds after turning the ignition I had a wall to wall smile. After the 240 miles I felt it would be pointless to consider the alternatives. More power, better handling, better braking and it takes a lot to impress London ( UK) Cab drivers but 3 wound their windows down to compliment the bike in one hour. This bike is the same deal with different body work. Go and ride one. If your'e a dyed in the wool Harley Guy. Sorry but that's your problem. Enjoy!
Neil Abraham-Dowsing It looks utterly beautiful, and yeah, London cabbies are a surly lot - especially since the rise of Uber!
Wow! A 240 mile test ride? I bet the salesman thought you were never coming back!
Had a 900 mile & 16 hour ride, stopping on for fuels, me & the machine. Smooth & Strong! The bags latch w/ 3 hooks.
That's a bloody nice looking bagger.
Hell of a motorcycle, hell of a place!
I don't know how to shift , do these come in automatic?
Nice to hear the word Guzzi pronounced properly.
Goo-chee. Goo-Zee. Goots-ee?
like the cinematography in this vid
bdpa kaknox suspiciously like Revillas
looks exotic :)
Wow that really is stunning as is the scenery, beats me why folks buy antiquated Harley's when nine out of ten that you pass are the same as you are riding, no need with awesome bikes like this on sale.
+Ghgvggh Vhvvhhv that's a good point as there is a fair chance that you will need some assistance for mechanical breakdowns if you have a Harley, I would rather have a Victory or Indian, I just don't like the culture around Harley's. I did have a Road King for the day a few years ago and my first response was..is this a joke ? Having said that my daily ride at the time was a Honda Valkyrie and any Harley was going to seem bad after coming off that superb bike.
Oh, oh oh, damn nice bike there ! I wanna give a few thumbs up, just because its so cool. I have had two Guzzis and would buy another in a heartbeat. Italians can design !
yes but there afyersales are shit!!
Looks great
pretty cool
Sexy bike. 21 grand is still a lot but that carbon fiber aint cheap!
Yes, but the closest equivalents that HD sells are the Road Glide and Street Glide that list for $21,299 and $20,999 respectively. I'd personally opt for the Guzzi. It's a refreshing design in a sea of HDs.
- RunningWithScissors -
Totally agree
..and a superior bike in every way. I'd pay the price for sure.
To each his own. It looks OK, a bit overdone for my tastes, but then again I'm not a bagger guy. I just wish it sounded better...
Just a knockout of a beautiful bike.
One of if not THE most reliable brand out there with uncanny engine life.
EDIT: I actually bought one hell yeah!
great bike from moto guzzi.
I’d love to try one of these out but am concerned about leg room. I’m 6’3’’ and it looks like my knees would be against the heads. Any tall riders out there tried one?
I'm 6' even and there's room to spare.
Diverse delay powerful.
what's with the audio hiss?
Video won't load for me. It would be nice to see more than a thumb nail.
I like this bike!! Its Bad Ass with all the carbon mixed with the matte black paint, It actually sits nice and high and doesnt scrape as much as most other bikes! it has an Awsome, different look, Sporty with the red valve covers and matching Brembo sport brakes! Real Carbon fiber covers on the wheels.... which actually almost looks like the Whole wheel is Carbon fiber!! And REAL Carbon Fiber all over the bike!! All you need to get is some Nice black pipes on this baby, so that way the VTwin can breathe and let you hear its nice ass Rumble!!!! Lol
I would totally own one. ✌🏼️😎♠️♠️♠️
Not if you are financing it.
Turco949 😑
Road most of them roads down there. I get on my bike and in 3 hours I’m in Sturgis.
but I like it looks badass!;!!!
NEEDS a nice set of Vance and Hines big pipe shorty's!!! and needs to get more HP and torque out that motor!!!!
Hmm, why yes, you need to take a refined Italian beauty and turn it into a field tractor
I don't find modern Guzzi's lacking in power. Not even the 1100's. The Griso 1400 is 4 valve pent roof and i've watched more than one seasoned rider go damn near hysterical during their video road test. The Smoaks Vlog and one of the British blokes, maybe the Rabid Hedgehog or someone similar. Both went ape shit bonkers over the Griso's power and sheer smiles per gallon.
Does the bike have heated handle grips?
What kind of P**** needs heated grips? This is a Moto Guzzi, you ride like a man !
Some other color choices would be nice.
Moto Guzzi needs a new Le Mans and Norge. That´s what the fans waiting for, gliders are a dead end for MG.
I'd love the same Video without the music
I guess it's a fallacy to think that Harley country would neglect any new brands. I mean why would riders hate more choices on bikes? Guzzi or Royal Enfield or Triumph, they all have heritage.
Moto Guzzi motorcycles are not in the same league as Royals or Triumphs, think more like Lamborghini or Ferrari...they much of the same manufactures as them...
70+% of Harley riders are snobs who look down their nose at bikes that are often their superior in every way. A full size H.D. is about 200 lbs. too heavy and has the rev capability of the old flathead Ford IMO. After you spend 5 to 10 K more than you would for any other cruiser then you can tap into that great Harley aftermarket to the tune of another 4 to 6K to get the bikes power up somewhere near where you want it. I've never heard a more true statement than "There is no substitute for cubic inches" as it applies to H.D. as that truly seems to be the only effective route to unleashing the power in a Harley.
I'm not too familiar with MG's...where do they sit with dependability/durability amongst other bikes??? They look great, but no bike looks great on the side of the road or on a flatbed...right?
+Ack Ade but Harley still has to order most part hardly ever has what you need in stock
they're probably the most reliable Italian bike you can buy.
+Ghgvggh Vhvvhhv it depends what you're after. I own an Aprila is myself. here in Canada Ducati aren't completely priced like guzzis or Aprila . they're always thousands more for a comparable bike which makes it harder to justify for me.
+Cianski 06 competitively priced ****
+Ghgvggh Vhvvhhv I'm pretty happy with mine, my dad's 11 year old RSV mille has been bulletproof. that's why I picked mine up.
What is the reliability of that brand
Excellent nowdays with much better electrics than in the past. Engine life is uncanny and never have had anything come loose over the course of owning 2 of these bikes. A co workers 1980 T3 with 180,000 miles without a teardown made me a believer. My 76 1000 i convert shows almost no wear at 55,000 miles so far.
Nice video. The front fairing, although it may be effective, it seems a bit "too much" for my taste, even by the standards of American cruisers. Otherwise, the design of the bike looks simply stunning!
Bag*
Folks, I know everybody has different tastes. Some of us like BIG women, some, little women. Same for bikes. Each of us has different taste. I love bikes. I would ride the DOG SNOT out of this Italian Beauty! Yes I like it. Would I trade my Indian for it ? NO! But it is SEXY to me. Gotta test-ride one, just for shits and giggles! RIDE SAFE!
Bags for tools of course
Nicely designed except for that front fairing. View head on from the front is Fugly. Pokemon Go Trainers will be trying to capture it!
I want one so bad this bike is awesome and for street glide money
lol, having owned a glide..just no.
All useless points.
1. Storage is a matter of how you are going to use it. For 99% of the owners it's fine.
2. There is a large M-G aftermarket following, it's just mostly online since the bike is European.
3.Modern M-G's are very reliable. Personally I've owned 2 and never had an issue.
4. Performance is definitely better on the M-G. Handling/Braking/Acceleration etc
5. Who cares about dealer support if it's only specialized during a once a year rally.
The tow truck drivers always make a lot of money during those rallies.
Sept 2018 and now you can get these NEW all day long for $14,995 plus tax, etc. Now that is a deal.
@@ababbit7461 why didn’t I know about this bike in 2018... fast forward to a Covid Oct 2020, retail is $23,990 😮 crazy expensive for a bike Motto Guzzi has neglected to advertise for almost 2 years...
Guzzi have a wind tunnel
why don't moto guzzi make sport bikes now?
griso 8v se.
He said 'sports bike'..............I guess he means bikes like Ducati's panigale or similiar. Jerryl I wouldn't hold your breath!
It's got over a 100 hp, weighs about the same as a 600 supersport. super sport suspension and brakes. not sure what it's missing other than fairings. lol
Yeah it's probably just different people's idea of what a sports bike is. Most large engine sports bikes (1000cc) have nearly 200 hp and weighs 200kg wet. The griso has 108hp and weighs 240kg wet. I personally would like to see Guzzi get it's shit together again and get back to their racing heritage and produce a decent modern sportsbike but as I said we shouldn't hold our breath!
because there is already Aprilia, Piaggio group, it makes no sense overlapping products.
Well Done Moto Guzzi about as stylish as the family fridge !
I seriously don't find the average over priced under powered overweight Harley any better looking. In fact aside from a bagger a Dyna and a Night Train are pretty much the same to me. Or, put a slim front fender on like a Night Train has and presto! A new model. As by and large the different models of full size Harley's are just different mashups of parts to make different bikes. Oh, and maybe one has a 103" 5 speed while another has 107" 6 speed. WTF? How much different from each other are those going to be?
Your knees are right up against the heads. I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem.
Made for looks only. Lousy ergonomics might not be the answer for me... Well maybe they are designed to people who ride only short distances - but basically Guzzi is (my opinion) a travelling machine... I looked at one at dealer and it's just too low to have a good riding position, at least if you are +180cm tall... And the weight, 341 kgs, oh no no! The old Le Mans 1000 was 215 kgs dry and had about 70hp at rear wheel? And the year was 1985!
My two Guzzis fit me fine at 6'2. I rode tens of thousands of miles in good comfort, much more comfort than when I rode my friends rattling slow motion tractor Harley
@@iivaridark6850 I don't see many cruiser riders squeezing the tank with their knees like a sport bike rider might so no problem. I have 2 moto Guzzi's. A 76 1000 i convert and an 03 Cali Stone and the barrels have never been an issue for me. Riding solo i just slide back a couple of inches on the seat but if you are just looking for reasons to hate the bike without even trying it then by all means, don't buy one. It's more fun riding something unique and dead reliable and not seeing another every 5 minutes. I find the exclusivity of the brand to be among my top 5 reasons for continuing to be a devoted owner of the brand.
would you buy it? why?
yes, I live close to a dealer and I love the transverse v twin
+Cianski 06 I like it....but only if it was painted carbon fiber. exposed carbon fiber is starting to give me a rash.
+cuzimaluzer777 the California custom and touring are thousands less and painted
+Cianski 06 yeah and way more beautiful imo.
+Cianski 06 especially the custom
UAU
*Hey, let's describe how these bags open. But let's not SHOW it... on this video.*
Nice job. (sarcasm)
Wont be working no more ha!
I always get Harley guys asking me about my triump rocket roadster.......it just proves my point Harley guys don't know anything about motorcycles
Yes, but where is the Boom audio? Where is the Harley Nav, Where is the MP3.
If your simple bike does not have simple American tech don't bother us.
LOL, your joking right? Riding a big bore Moto Guzzi is an experience that transcends mere toys like Boom boxes and MP3s. Those nosiemaking trifles are just in the way of enjoying the ride when on a Guzzi.
Where's your 3 stage adjustable engine mapping,abs as standard ? Guzzi's have more tech than most and would show a clean pair of heals to any Harley......I even lost a v rod muscle on the bends on my c14 even with 30 less horse power but hey you crack on with your poor suspension shit brakes and those in the know will buy Guzzi's ;)
From the Moto Guzzi site: "The MGX-21 dashboard also provides a complete entertainment system that includes the stereo system, equipped with an AM/FM radio with a 25W per channel amplifier connected to a pair of loudspeakers and it manages the intercom system. A Bluetooth module, that can host up to 5 devices, and the USB socket guarantee complete interaction with external devices, including a smartphone that can be used as a music player or to manage the multimedia platform, also included as standard"
Why would someone want Harley Nav on something other than a Harley? Makes no sense. No other brand is going to need the location of every Harley dealer nationwide so they know how many miles their bike will be towed to sit at the nearest dealer waiting for weeks for a new drive belt or primary chain tensioner to come in?
That's hilarious! You seriously think only H.D. offers heated grips, cruise control, self cancelling turn signals? Do Harley's even offer that? A stereo? You think all other brands are stuck in the stone age? Why have simple american tech when you can have sophisticated world class useful tech. Or as Shawn from SRK Cycles likes to point out why he prefers a less loaded H.D. as he shows you a bagger with a big fairing full of outdated cassette player and intercom that was state of the art 25 years ago.
You Italians had better be careful throwing that "Flying Fortress" name around...
Interesting. This bike was designed by Miguel Galuzzi in the California Design studios of the Piaggio group. It was, I believed designed with the American market and therefore its tastes in mind - that's why it was released at Sturgis and called the "Flying Fortress" to have greater appeal! Did Moto Guzzi get it wrong? Are the majority of Americans now actually not liking this bike? Could it be perhaps the "brainwashing" due to decades of, some would say mediocre offerings from HD? (FYI, I understand HD needs a prolific dealer network because they were/are such unreliable bikes!).
Whoa, hey, buddy, it was a WWII joke.
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Hate to be negative. I am sure that bike is a solid rider but it is too fugly for me.
Pipes, windshield, and a louder stereo and this would be an even better bike.
Why spend on pipes to then try to drown out the sweet tone of that beauty thru LaFranconi's with a louder stereo? Makes no sense but boy, it's getting easier to pick out the Harley fan boys all the time.
Man, that straight line from the front of the seat down looks awful, like a guide to cut the bike in half. Such bad design.
I would never notice without it being pointed out and still not an issue for me or anyone else as far as comments i've read but i guess we all have different priorities. I just fail to see what the issue is but then, automobile like reliability can make me overlook minor design faults.
who would by this monstrosity?
You would never see a Donald supporter on one, they dont understand what they are looking at. You can go back to the farm tractors boys, let the men with better taste in motorcycles ride the Moto Guzzis.
Someone who wants to ride their bike a lot more than they care to work on it. I would jump on that Flying Fortress or my '03 Cali Stone and set off on a ride from coast to coast across America without hesitation or fear of any parts falling off along the way.
Very cool looking bike and color scheme! That being said, there's no freaking way that I would ever have my knee caps that close to the hot heads of the motor. VERY poor design when it comes to air flow. Good luck riding that thing during the heat of summer. Your legs would be toast!
I have owned two Guzzis and never had a problem with too much heat on my knees, tho in the fall, the heat did keep my legs warm.
LOL Air cooled and out in the breeze, The best for Air flow!
Heat is only an issue if the bike is running lean. I never notice any additional heat on my legs but then i'm 5'11".
$21k? Buy a Harley
By all means buy a Harley, buy into the Harley culture and then spend another $4 to 5 thousand in an attempt to get it to match the MGX-21's performance and see yourself on the same thing everyone else rides. Overweight, overpriced and underperforming. Then you can deal with the various issues like primary chain tensioner, block castings less than flat where the barrels seat. etc. I like Harley's. They truly are the hot rod of american bikes but if i ever own one i'm getting a 50's era or a hard tail frame and an S&S engine and building my own drag style hard tail. Most new Harley's are just not attractive to me and carry too much weight. As long as i can hang leather bags on a hard tail springer forked drag style Harley you can keep the stockers. All the H.D. models are just a different combination of bolt on parts anyway that aside from the baggers all look pretty overweight and similar. Plus in a Harley 21K is pretty much the starting point. With the MGX-21 you likely won't pay 21K anyway. Just find a dealer near the end of the model year that's had a bike you want on the floor a few months and start dickering.
@@gregorytimmons4777 I love your comments mate as what you say is all true, long live the Guzzis brother
21 k for the Harley, True but add to that the add ons to make the harley somewhat the quality of the mighty Guzzi😂🤣😂🤣