Ma Te vs Chen Meng (Men vs Women)

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  • Ma Te vs Chen Meng (Men vs Women)
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Komentáře • 80

  • @azraelrose
    @azraelrose Před 2 lety +12

    Ma Te is so consistent and smart. What an amazing performance!
    Thanks for the video coach :)

  • @dante5012
    @dante5012 Před 2 lety +38

    women cannot beat defensive male players like Ma Te. They play fast but lack the power that you need against defensive players.

    • @pukulu
      @pukulu Před 2 lety +4

      yes, male defensive players can pop the ball up and still return many of the slams of the top women. In addition, Ma Te (and Joo Se Hyuk in the recent past) has an offense and the women have trouble handling it.

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. You need the strength not the speed when play against defensive player. And woman don't have it.

    • @user-jo4pb3qu6v
      @user-jo4pb3qu6v Před rokem

      Xxxxxxxxx

    • @eviesyd
      @eviesyd Před rokem +4

      Sun ying sha vs Ma te 3-0 , you are welcome

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu Před 2 lety +12

    Chen Meng did well. She won a game and was competitive in 3 of the 4 games that she lost.

  • @david0ade
    @david0ade Před 2 lety +7

    Just imagine if Ma Te was a non Chinese female player from Europe beating all the top Chinese female player, everyone would go crazy right now

    • @cyruswang3863
      @cyruswang3863 Před rokem +1

      but he isn't- that's like saying if fan zd is japanese smh

    • @24ghosh24
      @24ghosh24 Před rokem +2

      if he was in the US he could simply dress up like a woman and claim he was one😂

    • @shanelawson5072
      @shanelawson5072 Před rokem

      Yeah... He does look a bit EFFEMINATE ⁉️😘

    • @AS004-xf4jc
      @AS004-xf4jc Před 4 měsíci

      Or if he (they) is an American trans 😅

  • @michaelfarmhand
    @michaelfarmhand Před 2 lety +24

    Men and women are different. Chen Meng is No. 1 ITTF ranked for women, Ma Te is 170 ITTF ranked for men, yet he beat Chen Meng easily.

    • @atwoatwoktwo678
      @atwoatwoktwo678 Před 2 lety +5

      Well not so sure, at least in TT. She did beat Fan Zhendong!

    • @michaelfarmhand
      @michaelfarmhand Před 2 lety +6

      @@atwoatwoktwo678 That was a handicap match and FZD wasn’t really up for it. I watched the match - men vs women Chinese team exercise

    • @BjoernSteltingTT
      @BjoernSteltingTT Před 2 lety +11

      he is mich better Level then 170 like 30-50 for sure worldranking is not the truth Ranking..

    • @uchihadayne6506
      @uchihadayne6506 Před 2 lety +4

      He is better than his world ranking suggests, but he also isn’t trying. Some of the attacks he made were incredibly slow compared to when he is playing a real match, and Ma Te doesn’t go off the table and start lobbing or making exaggerated motions when he chops. It was obviously for exhibition. But it does also give the Chinese women a chance to play against superior players and a very different style than playing other women, which will make the Chinese women much stronger in general

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph Před rokem

      Ma Te wasn't even trying.

  • @MarkSmith-ho5ij
    @MarkSmith-ho5ij Před 2 měsíci

    Number one man vs number 1 woman Just this. No weird things.

  • @peterreid9769
    @peterreid9769 Před 2 lety +7

    Poor show from Chen against this dude ranked, 171. To be fair though, she struggled with his defensive style and prefers pace on the ball.

    • @seanreddy658
      @seanreddy658 Před 2 lety +9

      And to be fair, Ma Te is probably top 50 player in the world, but doesn’t get to play much on the international stage, and that will affect world ranking. He’s a top tier chopper.

    • @pukulu
      @pukulu Před 2 lety +2

      @@seanreddy658 Maybe higher than top 50. Top 30 seems reasonable. I've watched the best defensive players for 13 or 14 years and Ma Te is as good as any of them with the exception of Joo Se Hyuk. Other very good ones include Ruwen Filus, Gionis Panagiotis and Hou Yingchao. I think that the Chinese table tennis association knows how valuable Ma Te is for sparring against their best players. Ma Te was a bit better than Hou Yingchao even when Hou won the Chinese table tennis championship in 2019.

  • @shanelawson5072
    @shanelawson5072 Před rokem +1

    Ma Te had ALL the pressure.... ❗

  • @hamlet2017
    @hamlet2017 Před 10 měsíci +1

    its kinda unfair i think, for women players its hard to handle defensive male player despite her level. She needs alot of energy to break through that defense.

  • @user-pk2fu4kz4d
    @user-pk2fu4kz4d Před rokem +3

    What is Ma Te's inventory? What does he play with

  • @markfrisman359
    @markfrisman359 Před rokem +3

    Ma Te seemed relaxed and made some unusual side spin shots…no chance for his opponent. He is clearly on much higher level.

  • @loopkill
    @loopkill Před 2 lety +13

    Stylistically, this is the absolute worst match up possible between men and women. Chen Meng would have a MUCH better chance of beating offensive men that are much higher ranked than Ma Te. Chen Meng's advantages of being quick off the table are basically useless against Ma Te. Additionally, her instincts of when it's safe to push or slow loop aren't calibrated to play against men because women don't hit as hard--it would've helped a lot if she went for some backhand loops instead of pushing during certain points. But my point is that there is more nuance going on here than just men being way stronger than women
    PS - Ma Te is also way stronger than his 171 world ranking suggests. It's kind of undisputed that he's the best chopper in the world, but he rarely gets to compete internationally because he's from China, so he doesn't exactly get a chance to improve his ranking

    • @1xXNimrodXx1
      @1xXNimrodXx1 Před 2 lety +1

      he just has to idrntify as a women ez as that

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 Před rokem +2

      @@1xXNimrodXx1 why don't you do that push you ranking in trans women no. 1. Az ez az that.

    • @1xXNimrodXx1
      @1xXNimrodXx1 Před rokem

      @@d_reeves1133 because I like competition

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 Před rokem

      @@1xXNimrodXx1 I suppose it's in masturbations because I don't see xXNimshit or smth even in the lowest of world ranking of any sport.

  • @r.h.4577
    @r.h.4577 Před rokem +1

    Ma Te today the best defender of the world!👌👍🏓

    • @Vidflm
      @Vidflm Před 4 měsíci

      I really like and enjoy watching Ma Te's defensive BH style, which rubber does he use on his Backhand? Does anyone know?

  • @thomasduran490
    @thomasduran490 Před 2 lety +3

    CHEN Meng is very tired, it's like throwing pitches in a baseball game repeatedly. Ma Te varies his spin so much , then he attacks so much as well, he has beaten alot of the best men's players and has won tourneyments. I beleive Chen Meng needs more matches with Ma Te to learn his unique style, Chen Meng usually figures out how to beat an opponent, in the long run, she would learn how to win against Ma Te, I know she can beat alot of the beat ranked men in the world

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 Před 2 lety +3

      Its all about strength. Women don't have it. They have speed but not strength. When play with defence players like Ma Te you need more power forehand for counter his spin. So even she has more practice with him or player like him, it will not change anything, and like i remember she never win man players in real match.

    • @thomasduran490
      @thomasduran490 Před 2 lety +3

      @@quockhanhpham626 sorry, I don't agree, Mima Ito has the fastest speed on her slams in the game

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thomasduran490 yeah in the game with woman not man.

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 Před rokem

      @@quockhanhpham626 I beat they would beat you to 0-11 in every set tho, stop comparing men and women you dumb shit, just because you are men doesn't mean you are equal to Ma long or Fan Zendong.

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph Před rokem +2

      Women have absolutely no chance against men. So much difference in power...

  • @mrogeriolima1
    @mrogeriolima1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Queria ver a Sun contra o Fan, aposto minhas fichas na Sun.

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ma Te has some seriously heavy backspin based on some of the failed returns.

  • @pablomorillo2639
    @pablomorillo2639 Před rokem +1

    I like it

  • @nurhayatise8817
    @nurhayatise8817 Před 2 lety +1

    mate have full power, chen meng can't beat mate

  • @ericwong2674
    @ericwong2674 Před 2 lety

    陳夢怎麽沒有關注馬特的反手削球,轉速太高,不要用拉球囘,應該搓過去,不要讓他發揮

  • @heshamsharaf3053
    @heshamsharaf3053 Před 2 lety +2

    Great wall of China 🏓🎄🌈🎨💡🕯️🥊🎈💖

  • @tomthomas9708
    @tomthomas9708 Před 2 lety +2

    Ma Te is very consistent but Chen should be winning against guys like this.

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph Před rokem

      No chance against any man ranked in top 100.

    • @tomthomas9708
      @tomthomas9708 Před rokem

      @@gorodph Of course she could. Second tier female players like Juan Liu have beaten men ranked in the top 100 and lower.

    • @putiputain1230
      @putiputain1230 Před rokem

      Lol, treating Ma Te like any regular guy. Ma Te has beat top many top 20 male players what makes you think Chen Meng will ever do that?Only in your tiny mind, boy.

    • @tomthomas9708
      @tomthomas9708 Před rokem

      @@putiputain1230 Please feel free to go and bore someone else.

  • @TimeattackGD
    @TimeattackGD Před 2 lety +2

    im wondering if a woman from other ethnicity with generally bigger people has potential to be a serious threat for top male players if they grew up with chinese top training etc. this isnt trying to be mean but i feel like players from other countries would physically be able to outperform chinese (atleast in women category) but i guess they simply dont have the same training methods someone over there can get.

    • @vincenzoTTop99
      @vincenzoTTop99 Před 2 lety +2

      Has nothing to do how big a person is, there are 16 years old world class players that have small bodies, of course man's have an advantage because they are stronger and more athletic, and a top woman would never beat a top men that the reality.

    • @michaelfarmhand
      @michaelfarmhand Před 2 lety +1

      German female players are bigger and that hasn’t helped much

    • @anhmt90
      @anhmt90 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't forget bigger in size also means slower in movement. Have you wondered why chinese male players are not physically stronger than male players from Europe but their strokes seems to be more powerful? E.g., Ma Long with the most powerful forehand in the world? It's all about techniques, my friends. I think there are some videos in this channel explaining this fact.

    • @david0ade
      @david0ade Před 2 lety +1

      Just imagine if a non Chinese female player who plays exactly like Ma Te and just as skillful as Ma Te suddenly beating all the top Chinese Women player, everyone would go crazy right now.

    • @anhmt90
      @anhmt90 Před 2 lety

      @@david0ade I'm almost certain that there's no female players in the world having such a powerful and consistent inside-out forhand attack like Ma Te does. He did score many points with that stroke in this match though.

  • @Manikandan_youtube
    @Manikandan_youtube Před 2 lety

    Ma tar so much spin 😀

  • @industrialengineeringcorpo2034

    I don’t agree.chen beat Fan twice in a row.Bur MA tae should be stronger than Fan

    • @hridoyahmed1433
      @hridoyahmed1433 Před rokem +1

      Bro, chen meng beat fan twice...plz give me the video link or source or news..i watched one but other one can not find

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph Před rokem +1

      No, she didn't. She has absolutely no chance against Fan Zhendong.

    • @rahmatulakbar5005
      @rahmatulakbar5005 Před rokem +1

      Yea they let her start from 9 i believe

    • @marleocjsdjostcte7289
      @marleocjsdjostcte7289 Před 6 měsíci

      Your IQ is below the horizon.

  • @lighthousemaccabee8133
    @lighthousemaccabee8133 Před 4 měsíci

    This lady smashed the girls so bad she has to play men lol....She did get beat a couple of times by a lady but I think that was just a couple of fluke games

  • @harrischen6103
    @harrischen6103 Před rokem +1

    男生讓女生

  • @denny92859042
    @denny92859042 Před rokem +1

    陳夢的時代早就結束

  • @tizumigmd3859
    @tizumigmd3859 Před 2 lety

    I Third video

  • @vinadamsllc
    @vinadamsllc Před 2 lety

    Pretty cool Coach, battle of the sexes!

  • @alexli15
    @alexli15 Před 2 lety +3

    女的怎么可能打得过男的 莫名其妙的比赛 练练手得了

    • @loopkill
      @loopkill Před 2 lety

      Gotta love blanket sexist af statements like this. For anyone who's wondering, he said "how could women ever beat men?" 😒

    • @AK474KA
      @AK474KA Před rokem

      输了就理所当然,赢了就牛逼刚刚的。稳赢,怎么不赢。

  • @gopals-rv7rh
    @gopals-rv7rh Před rokem

    ㄱㄴㅁㅅㄹㄴ묘