James Shaw: Why the Greens should consider working with National | 30 with Guyon Espiner Ep.4 | RNZ

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  • čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
  • Former Green Party co-leader James Shaw tells Guyon Espiner what he's got planned after politics. Plus, why he thinks the Greens should consider working with National in future and why he's been called a "tree tory". Watch 30 with Guyon Espiner every Wednesday at 3pm. | Subscribe @RNZVideo

Komentáře • 95

  • @firstkings99
    @firstkings99 Před 21 dnem +5

    A good interview, where you let the person speak. A massive contrast to the one with David Seymour!

  • @W_Bin
    @W_Bin Před 29 dny +9

    A great way to get to know what and who is going on in politics. Thanks RNZ.

    • @RobertLRob-ir8yo
      @RobertLRob-ir8yo Před 27 dny

      Has to be one Maori and one woman as coalition leaders? sounds like racism and a discrimination party towards non Maori men!

  • @plumbus813
    @plumbus813 Před 29 dny +11

    Any MMP minor party must be willing to walk away from any deal, or they have zero leverage

    • @user-ju8vs1gc7h
      @user-ju8vs1gc7h Před 29 dny +2

      it's why Winston has so much power. he seems to be the only party leader to get the idea that you are in it for your party not a coalition

    • @plumbus813
      @plumbus813 Před 29 dny

      ​@@user-ju8vs1gc7h Exactly!

  • @craigperry5662
    @craigperry5662 Před 29 dny +6

    Nice work, not hugely controversial, but informative and entertaining. I'm not a Green supporter but do support democracy and thus the Greens have both the right and a very distinct role to play, whether I like it or not.

  • @TheMarathonomahos
    @TheMarathonomahos Před 28 dny +3

    I never agreed with his politics, but i liked him. But the current coalition have more Maori MPs than the previous coalition, so maybe he needs to check his facts, and the interviewer should have pulled him up on it. But this is RNZ after all

  • @annekevandenberg8165
    @annekevandenberg8165 Před 29 dny +18

    From the river to the sea, the Greens are crazy!

  • @annahouston9528
    @annahouston9528 Před 29 dny +3

    I agree with what was said about becoming like the USA, it seems to be a sad reality! Right or left never use to mean much, and people changed sides often. It can be good to disagree with someone, thats life!

  • @user-wt4ie6iu6p
    @user-wt4ie6iu6p Před 29 dny +2

    Seems like all the most well versed politicians are in these threads...

  • @grimes8849
    @grimes8849 Před 29 dny +3

    What gets me about the nostalgia warriors is the world they inherited was fought for against the nostalgia warriors of their day. Fight for a better future and stop pining for a time past.

  • @karenbolton9526
    @karenbolton9526 Před 21 dnem

    They are priming Shaw for next mats leader been on cards a while first heard it suggested on rnz 2 yrs ago watch this space

  • @c.moondot9204
    @c.moondot9204 Před 27 dny +4

    I must have missed it? Did Guyon take the opportunity to question Shaw about his - let's be gentle and say 'exaggeration' of his tertiary qualifications.

    • @ruihmartins
      @ruihmartins Před 26 dny +3

      Exactly. It says everything about the culture of the greens.

  • @ducker09
    @ducker09 Před 22 dny

    once again greens pull the old mental health card . She is no more or less than a common criminal . 😮

  • @Mark-ef8mp
    @Mark-ef8mp Před 29 dny +22

    I like James Shaw. he was far to reasonable for these modern nutty greens. He is one of the last of the true greenies. They have become lunatics.

    • @davidmccormick3742
      @davidmccormick3742 Před 29 dny +1

      Mark-ef8mp- James Shaw may be okay But; You’re correct in your assessment of the rank and file of the Green Party as Lunatics; A fair and honest assessment; New Zealand 🇳🇿 has a comparatively high proportion per capita of Lunatics; Hence; The Greens always do well at election time; Think about it; Regards Dave McC

  • @ChrisChrystall
    @ChrisChrystall Před 24 dny

    Guyon I think you missed a massive opportunity to ask two questions:
    1) Is there ever a time when positive discrimination has achieved its goal and can therefore be discontinued before it becomes reverse discrimination?
    2) James Shaw did you ever truly believe in a wealth tax?

    • @localmo88
      @localmo88 Před 22 dny

      3) Are Ian Wishart's comments true regarding the legitimacy of your University qualifications

  • @kenphillips5221
    @kenphillips5221 Před 29 dny +29

    James was the last adult in the room for the greens. They are history!.

    • @andrewwatson1690
      @andrewwatson1690 Před 29 dny +7

      With Chloe and Mirama on top, there's no chance of getting a green/national partnership. So, no chance of fighting climate change in an economically viable way

    • @ColinIzer1111
      @ColinIzer1111 Před 29 dny

      Even the greens "last adult in the room" James Shaw was caught out lying on his C.V. Claiming he had attained qualifications he indeed hadn't. Scandal surrounds Green party members like no other party.

    • @richjdnz
      @richjdnz Před 29 dny +3

      @@andrewwatson1690 Yes but how is that Chloe and Marama's fault? National has leaned so far into the Koo-koo-Konservative right that it is no longer the long-term consensus focused, centrist-right party it once was.

    • @KieraHafermalz-Wheeler
      @KieraHafermalz-Wheeler Před 28 dny

      @@richjdnz they're following the fascist trump playbook now with ACT and Winston First

    • @kimkay2196
      @kimkay2196 Před 25 dny

      Greens are nutcases

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon4643 Před 29 dny +2

    I recall Shaw talking at Auckland Uni very early on in the 1st Labour Green NZFirst govt. He said if a person doesn't do what he or she says they will do then do not vote for them and replace them with someone who will. Shaw should have been gone by the end of the ist term. He appeased and appeased and had his legal term go outside parliament to the High Court to defang the ZCA saying it was only aspirational. I got to wondering who was really working for by the end of the 1st term. NZ needs a better system than representative democracy for the corporations, it's called deliberative democracy. The sooner the better.

    • @josiahfresnel9217
      @josiahfresnel9217 Před 29 dny +1

      Absolutely agree. Our country desperatly needs democratic reform.

  • @jamesisakiwi
    @jamesisakiwi Před 29 dny

    James, thanks for all the hard work!

  • @jimnz8402
    @jimnz8402 Před 29 dny +8

    It sounds like James Shaw got bullied out by the Greens because he's just not woke enough.

  • @sandrameredith6372
    @sandrameredith6372 Před 28 dny

    Excellent interview. I trust James can contribute to helping Greens behind the scenes based on his own experience, including bullying and mental health issues.
    He is a good speaker and strong Greenie.
    He will be missed as a very level headed person. Respect 👏👏

  • @154james
    @154james Před 28 dny +1

    I'd vote for Greens if they committed to working with national. I guess that makes me a "tree tory" 😂

  • @lachland592
    @lachland592 Před 28 dny

    This is some of the best nz journalism I’ve seen. Right up there with Jack Tame.

  • @lukeyj4843
    @lukeyj4843 Před 28 dny +5

    30 minutes of babbling gobbledegook

  • @robduthie2979
    @robduthie2979 Před 29 dny +4

    We need Co2 to grow plants, its not the issue, and NZ contribution to climate change is so small , we are not the issue, we are only a ant fart in the schemes of things. The greens are crippling this country.

    • @mariannegilbert8786
      @mariannegilbert8786 Před 28 dny

      There are not anywhere enough plants in the world to absorb the amount being produced. We are responsible for a little under 1% of what is being produced. There are a lot of countries in the same boat as us, if we all say we don’t make much it’s not our problem, collectively we add up to a lot. We do need to do our bit and our leadership and stance on environmental stuff gives us international kudos for trade and tourism.

    • @robduthie2979
      @robduthie2979 Před 28 dny

      @@mariannegilbert8786 It is way less the 1%, why do hot houses need to pump in CO2 to make there plants grow, that will escape etc. But the plant grow way better with it, as the CO2 helps a lot, CO2 is not a climate warming gas, as you make out, and there are other forces out there causing warming, there arer natual earth cycles, and solar and sea cycle which all effect this, At the moment we are in 11year solar storm cycle, which will peak around 2025, watch out for this.

    • @danielwatson124
      @danielwatson124 Před 27 dny

      Wait so which is it? CO2 isn't an issue? Or it is an issue but we aren't big enough to make a difference? Is it some other CO2 equivalents that you think are an issue over others, like methane, HFCs, or PFCs? Cause if its that then our intensive animal argriculture puts our emmissions up there pretty highly, massively so when we consider per capita, and if you have any understanding of civics and geopolitics, you'd know that a small nation like ours should be looking at this stuff through a per capita lens. I know that when people get called out on a dumb statment, they get self defensive. Ape brain will restart in safe mode, and block out any criticism or threat. And the chances of you actually hearing what I'm saying is pretty low because of that. But I really want to point out some flawed logic there. Your comment is just wrong, sorry man.
      We need CO2 to grow plants, yes, but we also need trace amounts of Chromium in our bodies to live, which is highly toxic when in excess. I'd highly recommend reading up on real peer reviewed studies on the climate ay, I know where you're getting your info probably makes you feel smart, and safe, but it is primary school levels of simple, and believing it is harming you.

  • @magdahoekstra1694
    @magdahoekstra1694 Před 29 dny +8

    James Shaw would have been a great PM. Honest, decent, communicative, humble and hard working. And he has morals where he sticks to. Great example.

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 Před 29 dny +15

    James Shaw was completely ineffective and inconsequential when in government, so I cannot imagine he has gotten more interesting since.

    • @davehawes8177
      @davehawes8177 Před 29 dny

      So you comment on an interview you didn't watch?
      You would be a protected species under green policy.
      The brain of a snail.

    • @jame2433
      @jame2433 Před 21 dnem

      So apparently the success he had getting the zero carbon act amendment through parliament with unanimous agreement doesn’t count

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@jame2433 It counts as inconsequential, if that makes you feel better.

  • @mattieclan8957
    @mattieclan8957 Před 29 dny +9

    Is Shaw in lala land?
    He doesn't think the country was in decline during Labour's time in govt?
    Labour left the country in dire situation and a big mess financially! he jolly well know that the new govt is in an extremely difficult position to try to clean up the mess!

    • @kimshaw-williams
      @kimshaw-williams Před 29 dny

      Que? What about Covid? And NZ is NOT in a big mess financial compared to other countries post Covid. WAKE UP!!!

    • @jame2433
      @jame2433 Před 21 dnem

      Such a big mess that we’re proving tax relief and 3B to landlords. Yeah really bad situation yet we can afford both of these things?

  • @cameron132
    @cameron132 Před 29 dny +3

    One the greens best assets. Sorry to see you leave.

  • @brendan8550
    @brendan8550 Před 29 dny +5

    What a nutcase

  • @DarrenJamesNicol
    @DarrenJamesNicol Před 29 dny +6

    No interest in anything that smirking socialist has to say.

  • @Frank790205
    @Frank790205 Před 28 dny +2

    C R I N G E 🤣

  • @simplygreen5832
    @simplygreen5832 Před 29 dny +7

    No thank you Greens, just stay right over there.

  • @MaryAda-wj3dy
    @MaryAda-wj3dy Před 29 dny +11

    I dont think the nats would want the greens. Not with the third world legacy that jacinderism and greenyism left all nzers.

  • @razorsharp8968
    @razorsharp8968 Před 29 dny +4

    He's bowed out. He should stay out. The Greens have made themselves irrelevant and so is James.

  • @rogerparker4468
    @rogerparker4468 Před 27 dny

    Tree Tory..so apt

  • @garycody1929
    @garycody1929 Před 29 dny +9

    Shaw not worth listening to. Ineffective and useless.

  • @peterbishop1933
    @peterbishop1933 Před 29 dny +4

    The rest of them need to go

  • @subramsubramaniam1327
    @subramsubramaniam1327 Před 29 dny +9

    Thanks James for leaving Green party

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 Před 29 dny +6

      Now if he can just make the final step and leave the public eye entirely.

  • @feesullivan3439
    @feesullivan3439 Před 25 dny +1

    Lies Shaw
    The new govt has more Māori cabinet members than ever before.

  • @louiskelly2354
    @louiskelly2354 Před 29 dny +1

    James Shaw - Pathological liar 😢
    You couldn’t sell it to NZ while you were a Minister..I’m not sure how you would do it in private practice…but arrogance will do that to you eventually - Just give me all ya money 😂

  • @feesullivan3439
    @feesullivan3439 Před 25 dny

    The greens are absolutely mad.

  • @jasoncollins1702
    @jasoncollins1702 Před 12 dny

    A very confused individual who is smart enough to know it.

  • @richjdnz
    @richjdnz Před 29 dny

    Champion. Will be sorely missed.

  • @TheArchie1112
    @TheArchie1112 Před 29 dny

    Probably the best politician in the country imo, through all these years he's been consistent. We're all going to miss you, thanks James!

  • @robertscott8716
    @robertscott8716 Před 28 dny

    Just a whole lot word salad is all i heard

  • @speeddemon9555
    @speeddemon9555 Před 29 dny +14

    NO NO NO !! keep the greens out of parliament !!~

  • @janetamplin7318
    @janetamplin7318 Před 27 dny

    No way... 👎

  • @CaylaBacho
    @CaylaBacho Před 29 dny +7

    I watch your videos and admire your professionalism and quality of content every time! Thank you for your work! 👏✨