Yeah, that makes sense. Also even though he went off about forcing Yugi to use the eye or rod, that's just silly. Obviously you just have the story put his friends in danger so Yugi wants to use the eye and rod once he does gets them.
It would honestly have made sense for Bakura to bumrushed for the "evil" millennium items... like he basically does in the series. Yugi, getting the "good" items but only using them in actual shadow games or just not being able to use them well/consciously could have worked. The necklace could show Yugi glimpses of important moments or of threats in the future. The key activating against strong opponents showing him their past. Honestly, I have no idea how the scale would have been used. We know the eye and rod were used to pull monsters out of people's souls so Bakura could have been doing that as the rising action leading to Atem's and Zorn's confrontation.
That could just be Atem's ability, not really the puzzle. It was started before, the Puzzle grants a wish, which Yugi used for friends. Nothing is stated about the bounds of this wish.
Even explains the beginning of the manga, like in one there was a dice game against a badguy of the week, the guy rolled a six, so yugi needed a 6 to at least tie, however, when he rolled the dice, it broke in 2, and actually got a 7 to win the game
Well yeah...cause that what it does in the series, every time yugi got a destiny draw it was because the puzzle manifested his will into pulling the exact card he needed aka a luck booster.
You know, I do have an idea for the Millennium Rod. First, Yugi would ask his friends if he could try something, make a mental link with Joey, Triston, Tea, maybe Duke, Serenity and Rebecca, depending on the season. Then, if they're separated, first, he uses the rod, checks if they're alright, if they know where they are. Then, oh no! Someone challenged Serenity to a duel! But wait! Yugi uses the rod and basically walks her through the duel to keep her safe. And maybe a villain knows he can do this and tries to overwhelm Yugi by having 5 duels at once, 6 if you want to include Yugi himself. What do you think?
Oh this is the best setup for a filler arc post three dragons I could imagine. Make it pre Egypt and it ties in with Yugi becoming a champion duelist in his own right. One night Yugi is jumped by the new big bad, the puzzle is shattered and the pieces given to multiple villains. It could then play out like a reverse spirit keys season in GX where each one of Yugi's friends splits up to find a piece of the puzzle while Yugi recovers. Guided by the necklace showing him visions of his friends in danger of losing their soul Yugi gives in to temptation and uses the rod to try and help. While the darkness would push him to take over completely he settles for sitting back and offering support, letting him know that he's there for them like they have always been there for him. Then the finale comes and Yugi is torn between all the duels while he challenges the big bad for the final piece until his friends ask him to trust them to stand on their own. Able to focus on his duel he wins the final piece, reassembles the puzzle, and leaves to meet up with his friends who just managed to scrape by.
The thought of little Yugi saying in the anime "Does he have mirror force in his hand? No? Pog." In his high pitched voice has had me dying laughing for several minutes now
Some corrections: The dark millenium items are not evil. The only exception is the Ring, and only because it houses the Thief King. I think it's like Black in MTG: it means seeing things through no matter the cost, or how taboo the method. Kaiba in the series (the canon rod bearer) is overall a great example of this, especially in DSOD. The scale does not detect truth from lies, it shows the balance of a person's soul. That would be able to show malicious lies, but not bluffs in a card game. I imagine it would be most useful to, say, sniff out Rare Hunters. Finally, there are two good uses for the ring. The first one is in certain gamble cards, stuff like Magical Hats. The second is buying packs and getting all the cards you want.
If Yugi used all the millennium items, a good way to still add tension would be that the more of them you used, the more corrupted you became or the more you lost yourself, and Yugi would have to choose between using them to win or losing himself, and it'd be an allegory for fighting addiction.
I was thinking pretty much the same thing; Yugi using the Items will have a set limitation since he's not the original user, and if he tries to overused either one he'll risk suffering from the dire consequences.
I don't think he'd get the eye that early, when Pegasus left to release the souls he had taken he was jumped by Bakura. I can see him promising to give the eye after he releases the souls but Bakura takes it before Yugi could get it.
Plus the soul release could be portrayed as a skill thing where you need to know what you’re doing to be able to do it so Pegasus would release the souls and bakura would take it before Pegasus can give it to yugi as it also wouldn’t change Pegasus’ character as Pegasus was never truly evil and actually stuck to his word even when he lost
I love that joke. Has Yugi make use of EVERY Milenium Item in the duel even if it's really not one that's needed. But rather then makign hs opponent some kind of pupet to purosly lose, You just cleans dirt from his nails with the Rod. THe Rod is great for a villain, but for a hero not so much.
Also a reminder that the Eye didn't just allow Pegasus to see what was in an opponent's hand, it allowed him to read their thoughts and by extension, knowing what the facedowns are. That's how Yugi and Atem beat him because they would switch before Pegasus could read their mind
If you go by the manga timeline, Atem should have the Ankh and Scales before Duelist Kingdom, assuming he pilfered them from Shadi's dead body after their shadow game at the museum. (Yes, I know he's a ghost but that is a retcon, during his first appearance he clearly had a physical body and at one point was even afraid of dying inside Atem's mind palace.
It should also be noted that the physical body does not enter the mind room, for everyone else, Shadi and Yugi were standing still motionless; this is shown at the Shadow RPG where Yami's friends were static in the museum's room. So if Shadi was just a spirit, he would probably be dead dead (dead²) if he died inside Yami's room. Maybe that would mean his two Millennium Items would simply fall onto the floor? Ignoring things like how can a spirit carry stuff in the first place. (Then again the manga seemingly doesn't care, as in the Shadow RPG Yugi's body was separate from Atem's "body", yet he lacks a body, so that figure could only have been his spirit, and he was moving physical cards and figurines at the table)
We had a retcon of that happen again in DSOD. Shadi’s orginal body was Destroyed by Bakura. But dying a second time via your soul is a scary thought. Ancient Egypt did believe in the concept of a second death as did ancient Mesoamerica. Hense some of the gods like Babi which is referenced in the card art of Just Desserts.
@@sakuraryuji01 While it may have some retconniness to it, there is a really odd moment in the Duelist Kingdom arc of the manga where Yami-Bakura looks at Shadi's portrait and says, "I never expected to see his face here...", and then laughs. So there was some sort of planned history there. v17.mkklcdnv6tempv5.com/img/tab_17/00/52/87/aj956644/vol_6_chapter_53_the_eve_of_battle/17-o.jpg
Shadi was able to wield both the scales and the key so it’s definitely possible to use multiple. Granted he may be a special case but if anyone were going to be allowed to use all of them, it would be Atem/his reincarnation.
My interpretation of the necklace remains self-fulfilling prophecy: it shows what the future will look like based on choices you will take as a result of seeing that future - meaning you know exactly which deck to build for each duel because if you were to loose, you would build a deck that counters whatever would cause you to loose or avoid that duel entirely. However, it does not compute the other millenium items or similar powerful magic.
Yugi would be OP if he had all of the millennium items, but here's another what if. What if Konami prints the millennium items into real life cards based on their abilities in the anime.
How would their abilities translate to gameplay? Necklace showing the top card of the opponent's deck? Eye showing the opponent's hand? Puzzle basically lets you stack your deck?
Puzzle: Each turn you draw 2 cards. Put one of the cards to the bottom of your deck. Eye: Reveal the hand of the enemy permanently. Necklace: You can check the order of your deck. Ring: Pick a card from your deck add it to your hand. Staff: Each turn you declare the first attack from your enemy. Key: Check enemy deck, and sort it in whatever way you want. Scale: Each turn compare two monsters, kill the weaker one.
@@j3nki541 Ring would insantly become a staple 3 of. Even thrust is an 80$ card and it only allows you to search a spell or trap under very specific conditions
Yugi could use the Rod: telepathic links with his friends! He doesn’t have to exert control over them, but if they willingly opened up to the rod, it could link them all so he knows where they are if they’re in danger; or see through their eyes so he can direct them
An interesting restriction would be if one person could only ever use one item at a time... and Yugi + Yami count as two people. So at the start of a duel, they could strategically pick one secondary item to use.
Interesting idea. I remember Marik taking the Ring from Bakura and secretly wearing it. I always thought he might got a little more unhinged than he already was, because the Ring at an effect on him.
I think Yugi could've lost the Eye to maybe Bakura/Zorc. As for the Rod, maybe his friends get trapped in a maze, and he's the only one that knows the layout. So he has to control their minds to avoid them getting hurt. Also, maybe Yugi can only use one item at a time, but Yami has the ability to use all of them. And since Yami doesn't fully know himself until the end of the series, he slowly unlocks the ability to use the different items.
He’d be absolutely insane with the Millennium eye and puzzle combo. A monster luck boost and being able to read your opponent’s mind? Gonna be doing nothing but one turn, first turn & 0 turn kills lol
Scale : Yes or no question doesn't work Eye : Where's the flavor text 4kids ? Necklace : Nobody in the future found out Rod : All the rare hunter didn't found sh*t Puzzle : Luck boost found an ancient text but you got memory loss right after Ring : Poiting is just rude Key : Tried to enter in the pot of greed and got trapped
The entire Supreme King arc would have been pointless. The Sacred Beasts arc would have pointed us to Nightshroud (I forget the Japanese name at the moment) real fast.
What if it was the supreme king instead of Jaden who enrolled into the academy? No "dueling for fun" nonsense. I'd imagine he just wipes the floor with everyone without giving a single fuck. Aster gets rolled, Zane gets rolled, Sartorius gets rolled, Yubel gets rolled, and Yugi would likely be the only one to beat him.
Something to take into account if just for fun is the hypothesis that none of the items beyond the puzzle existed outside of the puzzle's own creation. Initiatially in the manga, none of the lore was known or eluded to beyond the puzzle. It was an item that would grant one wish to its completer. This is drastically different from the lore that it eventually would take..when Yugi completed it, he wished for friends. Beforehand, the world was mostly normal but would become more and more like an adventure manga with magic, uneblievable technology and other things that wouldnt really happen/exist occuring more often. The hypothesis is that the puzzle was granting Yugis wish in the way a nerdy young japanese boy into puzzles would best appreciate.. by altering reality to make him the protagonist of a cartoon adventure. Bakura was the first indication of other items existing and even the Pharoh was set up so he only knew as much about any of his background as it was being unraveled to everyone else. He was a figment created by the puzzle as were all the other dark spirits and items. Solomon is shown to have seen the pharoh spirit when retrieving the item but that was only near the end, with him recalling it. It also contradicts his story from before. He initially claimed he was interested in egypt and retrieved it form a dig. The memory instead portrays him as a devonair, thrill junky gambler who only went to the tomb to face the ultimate challenge. It is a mix of James Bond and Indiana Jones never before eluded to. There are a lot of subtle instances like this that indicate reality was shifting to accomodate the new story about the items as they were unraveling. This includes others like the ring having been a Bakura Family heirloom to something his father got him in Egypt while away on a trip to Bakura having been there himself to kill Shadi. Shadi's own backstory shifts a lot from a mortal keeper of the items to the earthbount spirit of an angelic entity that failed to keep a deal with the Pharoah's dad for his saftey to the ghost of the item's keeper who was also a mystic of other supernatural forces. Yugi gained friends but through an adventure where elements and events shifted to the convenience of the journey and the world became like sonething out of a comic than what it origionally was. There is honestly a lot more I didn't cover that supports the idea that the puzzle was intiatially its own thing and the only truely magical element of that world. This also implies, however, that Yugi was on rails. He was going through the motions of the story the puzzle made for him to experience for the fullfillment of his wosh but he never was in any actual danger or strayed from the plan. He never WOULD be able to wield all the ttems because that isnt what a manga protagonist would do. He would save the day, release the pharoah and walk away with friends. Even the closing narration of the manga eludes to all this. Yugi states that this wasn't the story of a great pharoah but one of himself comming to his own and making bonds with friends in the process..suspiciously close to the wish he made on the puzzle toward the start.
In the Memory World, the Scale can also be used as a substitute for Polymerization letting you fuse any monsters you have out. It is unknown whether you have to have the monsters on your field or if you can use monsters in the hand but even if they have to be on the field, a Polymerization for the field you can use infinitely without drawing it would be really good in the first anime. The question is if the memory world abilities work in the modern day since none of them are used outside of the memory world.
9:16 The Millennium Eye would let Yugi see into his opponents mind revealing what cards they have in their hand and were used to construct their deck. The Millennium Necklace would allow Yugi to see what cards his opponents would draw in the upcoming turns.
Here are some ideas of What If's: -What if Noah didn't die in the car accident? -What if Yugi took over Atem and ripped the Seal in front of Rafael? -What if Kaiba found out that he and Yugi are present real-life cousins? -What if Bakura dies a lot earlier? -What if the Legendary Knights give their owners all their dragon powers for future duels? For a Valentines' Day bonus for the following year: What if Tea and Alexis dated their respective protagonists throughout the anime? (If only romance would be allowed in its entirety in the series) [Of course, everyone would know these already]
Nope. He would not be able to function. Each item is corrupting to some level, with the ring being the worst. That one alone was so powerful in its dark influence that it took the most gifted magician of the time just to wield it on its own. The truth about the items being revealed to Tragodea was a big part of his psychological collapse, but it's clear the ring was guiding it. After that Shimon Muran had to abandon his own item and use every ounce of strength he had to temporarily don the ring. It was just long enough to use it to find another weirder for it but it nearly corrupted him entirely in that short time and he was the second most powerful weirder of items at the time. He was the one who controlled the unstoppable exodia and the ring still nearly drained him of his will in the time it took to lead him to Mahado. This was the only owner who seemed capeable of using the ring without any negative impact. Another factor however, is when Yugi would wield these. After Mahados death and the Pharaoh's sacrifice, both the ring and puzzle held parts of Zorcs soul. This made thier corrupting influence even worse. This is why Yami was so messed up in season zero. The influence would be lessened but still present in the puzzle and especially in the ring ubtil Zorc was defeated. Reguardless, the items were all possessions of Zorcs creation with the purpose of his dominance. They were a genies wish a d as powerful as they were, each would hold malignant power on their users like the One Ring in LotR. If anyone attempted to use them all, even after the Zorc soul fragments were expunged and it was Yugi, they surely would break that person in no time. Zorc was a demon who wished only harm on the world. The items were presented as tools of order but clearly cuased the opposite as their true intent. This is part of why so many wielders became driven to collect them all once they got one. The items were influencing their owners to self destruct in a manner that would have the most collateral impact. Sure they wouldpowerful, because they would be a minor form of Zorc himself. Each item holds just one facet of the Demon Zorc Necrophedes powers but never at an extent to match him, just overwhelm the human. This is why they had to be split up amongst the priests in the first place. The prior Pharoh and Atem weirded the pendent/puzzle bu6 if they COULD weird then all, wouldn't that have been the case?
@@Dragon66898 I'm confused what you mean. Zorc was the demon. The Millenium ritual was the alchemic pact made with him to allow his cross into the mortal realm. He offered the items, the control of Exodia and a single wish by the one performing the ritual. These all came back to bite the priests in the butt. Zorc himself was released but in a weakened form, attaching to the young thief Bakura as his Ka Diabound. He would not take his true form until the self proclaimed thief king commited enough evil acts to transform it into Zorc. It is clear he was influencing Bakura to enable this but he was not his own entity able to do anything independently before this point. In millenium world we learn that the ring was the greatest corrupter, that Mahado was not its first weilder, that that indidual fell to its influence, that Shimon Shuran had to temporarily take possession of it to find Mahado as a replacment keeper and that it almost corrupted him in the process. In Yugioh GX we learn that this first weilder was Tragodea. He was a gifted magician like Mahado but instead an astrologer from Cul Elna. He was personally selected by the prior Pharoah to come be his perosnal priest in that art. It was a goodwill gesture between the thief city and the main kingdom that showed even someone form such a place could rise to high status. His story greatly paralleled that of Mahado. He was purposely not present when the ritual was conducted and did not know the origins of the items buy the ring helped ensure he became aware. When this happened, he believed it was a betrayal by the Pharoah and went to confront him before being stopped by the other priest. The fate eluded to was that the other priest banished him to the hellish dimention the items created and making him the first one there. This intrinsically bound him to the realm and caused him to become the monster he would over time. We even see the spirts of the priests from before show up to help Jaden and Chaz in their final duel agaisnt him to end things once and for all. Zorc was defeated and the Pharoah free but the orgional weirder of the ring still possesed power and a vendetta as a result. Zorc never actually weilded the ring in full. The thief king would steal it AFTER Mahado but this was a vessel of Zorc before and during the time the demon was manifested fully in him. Zorc has the power to split his soul and the thief king did this repeatedly. He put a piece into the ring itself, which became the spirit of the ring and allowed the entrapment of the rest of Zorc to loosen in the puzzle. He also placed a piece in the high priest who was already being corrupted by the initial ritual/wish he made during it for his son to become pharoh. Once Zorc is fully manifested and free of Bakura however, we learn he seems disjointed from all this and does not see the pieces of his own soul as part of him. He treats both the theif king and high priest as his expendable servants at most and is even intrigued by how they claim to be him thanks to posseing a bonded part of his soul..something he doesn't akcnolwagement as confirmedly true. Zorc himself only held automous influence but didn't truely show as a conscious entity in himself until transforming from Diabound toward the climax. He is aware of the ritual, his bonding to Bakura and overall plot however. He even reveals that Exodia and the items never stood a chnave against him as they were HIS creation and he planned it so they would fail agaisnt him of used that way. He had never used them himself however as it wouldn't make any sense..why would he? They were pale imitations of his own natural powers that were granted to mortals.
It is possible that people couldn't use multiple items if the items didn't choose them since Bakura never uses the Millenium Eye. However, we know that if multiple items choose you, you can use them since Shadi uses both the Scale and Key.
Here are two interesting ideas I thought of as What-if scenarios. Both of which are from the Waking the Dragon Arc. 1. What if Yugi won against Raphel after using the Seal of Orichalchos? What if, at one point during the duel, Yugi decided to use the Seal of Orichalcos and used Catapult Turtle to wipe out Raphael's Life Points? Would he become power hungry, using the Seal's power more and more, until it gets to the point where he turns against everyone else, resulting in his friends need to pull an intervention? Or would it be a one-time thing, toss the Seal of Orichalcos, but will eventually realize that there are some severe consequences because of his actions? Mainly, how the Eye of Timaeus will refuse to be used by Yugi until he learns a lesson. If it's the former, then what if he took it a step further by abandoning the Eye of Timaeus, as he can't use that card if he decides to use the Seal of Orichalcos? 2. What would've happened if Joey Wheeler joined Yugi and Kaiba with their duel with Dartz? One thing that always bothers me was the fact that, despite that Yugi, Kaiba and Joey were chosen the wield the powers of the three Dragons, Joey was removed from the final act so he could save Mai from herself. And while I don't have a problem with Joey saving Mai, I do wish that there was a way to bring him back to team up with Yugi and Kaiba with the final battle with Dartz.
that three way duel vs dartz would of been awesome cause dragon master knight along iwht dark flare knight/mirage knight would be just annoying to deal with
@@ked49 "No one who uses the Seal wins," you say? Let's see, Gurimo beat both Weevil and Rex, Mai Valentine beat Maximilian Pegasus, as well as Joey Wheeler in their rematch, and Dartz beat Kaiba during his 1v2 Duel against Yugi and Kaiba.
For the goal of the series, it’s supposed to be Yugi wanting friends and using games to connect with people as well as gaining confidence. Unfortunately DM YGO picks up in the middle of this so both get lost. Like at no point in DM do we really see Yugi lacking for confidence or friends, so it becomes solely focused on Other Yugi/Atem.
I’d love to see you include the effects of the items as they were used in ancient Egypt. For example, priest seto used the rod to seal the extracted spirits from within people into the stone tablets. They have so many odd quirks the rod in particular is used for a ton of random things.
Wouldn't the Millennium Eye utterly obsolete the reality altering ability of the Puzzle? Like, the Puzzle's abilities become more potent the more dire situation becomes for Yugi, but it'll never come to that because every duel will always be in Yugi's favor as he can read other people's minds.
@@SSBBPOKEFANalso we’ve seen the necklace be wrong when ishizu dueled kaiba. People can make last minute decisions that change the outcomes it will predict. The eye only helps if yugi remembers every card and it’s effect that his opponent sets and to see what’s in the hand currently. But even then I could see him electing to just not use the eye unless it’s the BBEG of the arc.
Omg I can just imagine how bakura must be feeling if he's facing a yugi with 6 millennium items Yugi: you know......... fun isn't something one considers when playing a shadow game. But this....... (*holds up the millennium rod*) does put a smile on my face *bakura sweats profusely*
@MrObscureinsanity in fact said personality first emerged before Marik ever laid hands on the Rod. Though I can't imagine having possession of a mind-control staff helped with the whole becoming a villain thing
I feel like there's an easy fix for 'sacrificing an eye' in season 0, when Yami Yugi awakens, a third eye appears on his head., maybe, just maybe, Yami Yugi could take the millenium eye, somehow get it into Yugi's mind and take the risk and open a hole in his forehead and put the eye in its place (using season 0's physical mind labyrinth, making Yami able to interact physically with himself and others inside his room), so whenever little Yugi awakens into Yami Yugi, that third eye appears, being the millenium eye in Yami's forehead, which he can see through)
*Yugi stares down Kaiba with one glairing eye, scales on one hand and a rod on the other, weighed down by 3 heavy artifacts hanging from his neck* Kaiba: you're move, Yugi Yugi: lets do this. I draw. *Awkwardly bends down to pull a card with his teeth*
I'd say the scale would more likely be a polymerization on the go. In the last arc, it was used to fuse monsters together, so in a duel, it would more likely let him fuse without polymerization
Hear me out, Duelist Kingdom - Bakura takes the Eye from Pegasus and starts using it Battle City - Kiaba wins the Necklace instead of an ante card from Ishizu and uses it against Marrick and Yugi Waking the Dragons - Joey gets the Key from Shadi and uses it to save Mai in their 2nd duel KC Cup - Yugi has the Puzzle and Rod, Joey has the Key, Kaiba has the Necklace, Bakura has the Eye, and Shadi has the Scale. Kaiba throws a tournament to draw out the Millennium Items in a final bid to win the Egyptian God Cards from Yugi. Then with Yugi winning, Bakura reveals he has the Ring and the Dawn of the Duel arc starts in a final showdown between Yugi and Zorc.
A little theory that I have on why those three specific items are "Evil" are because during the Millennium World arc, we see Zorc corrupt/take over the users of the Millennium Eye, Rod, and he even put a part of his being into the ring. That darkness would stay in the items until Atem defeats Zorc at the end of the series. This would help explain where Yami Marik came from. He was around the rod his entire life, with Zorc's darkness slowly corrupting him and using him like a puppet
I'm pretty sure ol' Melvin is the result of split personality disorder gone horribly wrong from trauma. And that happened technically before he ever had the Rod in his actual possession.
@@brolytriplethreat In the manga / sub, IIRC, the knife in the Rod is what was used to give Marik his tattoos, which is what awakened Yami Marik, so there is a chance that the Rod had some influence in Yami Marik's creation besides the physical trauma. Though I agree that Yami Marik is just a DID alter, and a rare malevolent one at that, rather than a byproduct of the Rod's metaphysical properties.
@@samhuffer7005 I mean the part where they become two fully distinct entities and start trying to erase eachother's souls using Shadow Magic is probably a byproduct of that, but Melvin himself started as DID from trauma
I always believed the Puzzle had the Power to turn Cheating attempts against the Cheater in Question, but my Main Point of Support comes from the pre-Duelist Kingdom Manga. In one Chapter, Yugi and Joey go to an Arcade, and Yugi plays a few Rounds of a BeU against someone, and wins them all. His Opponent is a sore Loser however, and in the same Arcade, (the Arcades having been established as being connected Nation-wide earlier) so he tracks Yugi, beats him RL, and steals the Puzzle. Joey then catches up with the Thief, and demands the Puzzle back. The Thief offers to play a Game for it, that he intends to rig. Joey turns that around however, by saying "I am the One who wants something from you, so i will take this Risk to my Health and Life alone, and still beat you. And he does. I belive that the Puzzle judged both "Players" in this Case, and ensured the Victory for the honorable Player, even when it was not worn by him
Actually I could 100% see Yugi in this hypothetical using the millenium rod in a kind of "diet" version. Rather than outright turning people into slaves, he could use the rod to force the opposing player to make the plays and mistakes that he wants (sort of like the opposite version of the puzzle). Moreover, using the rod in conjunction with the way you proposed the millenium key may be used to adjust a person's behavior at their core, the opposing player may not even know they are being manipulated by the rod because they are still doing what they think seems best. As a final note, use of these alongside the necklace, would you allow you to easily determine which plays the opponent will make that would cause you the most trouble (ie. which decisions to target with the key and rod combo). Tldr: The key, rod, and necklace could be another broken combination, just like eye and puzzle.
To this day I think its kind of a shame that we never got a Race to Egypt type arc ( cue *Walk like an Egyptian* ) Like, maybe Yami Bakura reawakens, snatches the Necklace and Rod and hightails it to the resting place of the Millenium Items, knowing the last 2 are there anyway, forcing the main characters to chase him down, leading into the *final arc*
I think the dangerous nature of getting chosen or denied by the items makes it make sense that they wouldn't even try to use the others. Assuming, of course, that they learned that at some point (I don't remember if that's the case or not).
Fun fact: manga Jaiden had the ability to will draws into existence, all without the puzzle. He just kinda does it. Later, it’s (kinda) explained as Ma’at whispering in his ear what card he’s gonna draw. But notice how I said that: *”what card he’s gonna draw.”* Also yes that makes Ma’at’s ability completely busted. However, that’s not the same as quite literally thinking “give me Kuriboh” and getting Kuriboh. Yet he does this. Like, a lot. So how? The obvious answer is that when Yugi gave him Winged Kuriboh, he also passed a bit of power on. However, this doesn’t work. See, Yugi and Jaiden only meet in the anime. And Jaiden’s drawing bullshit is a manga-only kind of thing. So I’ll ask again. How? Now, this comment is long enough, so I’m just gonna say that Ma’at does it’s thing, and that’s how. But what do you guys think?
The funniest part is that the eye basically covers all the use cases for the scales and most for the neckless (other than knowing your opponent's next top deck before their turn). You don't need a lie detector when you can straight up read minds. Due to how the Ring acts as a compass that guides towards what the user wants, I feel like it could provide "guidance" when duelling, not so much giving certain knowledge about things so much as a sense of direction on where to go/ what to do to achieve what you want. So it wouldn't tell you what the opponent's face-downs are, but if you MST it'll guide your attention towards the target that'd give you the most trouble based on what you want to do with your turn. That'd also fit with Bakura's "There are ways I like to win and ways I hate to win" line from the end of his BC duel with Yugi, since his item helps him win the way he wants to win and he does mostly play unusual builds by anime standards like empty jar, destiny board lockdown etc. At some point though it gets a bit too heavy on the magic and it'd start to be questionable who good of a duellist Yugi actually is if he's leaning on all these millennium items, especially when the key gets involved. It would however have been interesting to see the key being used to counteract the rod's mind control or even exorcizing Bakura's mind parasite from the puzzle if he'd gotten it early.
Would be an interesting kinda way to play. The justice items could only be used by yugi while the darkness ones could only be used by yami, the puzzle obviously both could benefit from. Though think just eye + puzzle would be all they'd need 'oh has that card, i need this card to counter it' then puzzle luck boost draws the card.
Ok I love ur videos on the duels and sum of the explanation archetypes but this one had me laughing and it was a great listen about yugi being overpowered. Lmao this sounded like the type of convo I would have with my friends fr. Keep up the great work my guy
I honesty think it would be more about the outside powers. Imagen someone with Yugi's level of kindness. With the Eye he could see someone's memory, with the key he could see their true nature. With the scale he could pass judgment on someone's true self. With the rod he could compel someone to go confess to a crime. The Necklace could show him some tragedy before it happened and he could maybe stop it. All while maybe the show showing more of the struggle between the desire to help reform others and desires to go full dictator over someone's actions. Good example, your friend has a drug problem but doesn't want to stop. Meaning trying to make him clean up his act won't work. Do you rewrite his free will with the items or let him crash to rock bottom and go deeper while knowing you could have saved him before he destroy his life.
The ring being able to point out cards in duels at any time would be a pretty dope ability. If you had knowledge of your opponents decks (which bakura generally did) it woild be near impossible to spring a trap on bakura if he didnt want you to. Thematically similar to how bakura was always able to escape danger despite being cornered multiple times.
I'm JUST finishing a re-watch of Yu-Gi-Oh! DM and am in the middle of the Millennium World arc and this is a super interesting topic! Love these what if videos and would love to see one on what if Yugi hadn't mind crushed Kaiba in the first episode? We would've seen a much darker Kaiba, maybe even a Kaiba who embraced the power of the Millennium Rod?
a common misconception is that Atem can will a card to the top of his deck. It's actually that his resolve is so strong that it causes that next card to have always been, for example, MST. Like a reversal of cause and effect
The issue with the Eye is you'd need to completely change his character, even when he was in a real possible state of losing, Yugi never even thought negative about his opponent unless it was blatant, he always fought with respect and honesty, even IF he had the power to use, I doubt he actually would. Seems he'd rather lose gracefully than win with underhanded tactics
I think way to balance out have all the Millennium items would be having the puzzle act like a curse instead. The more dire the situation the luckier you are but also have the opposite also be true, the more sure you are of winning the unluckier you are. So as Yugi would get more items the greater his winning odds and therefore the worse luck he would have.
I think taking the Millennium Ring with the Eye at the end of S1 would still work. If I recall correctly, the Ring just teleports back to Bakura. So even though Yugi does take it, while sleeping or even traveling, the Ring could disappear and return to Bakura. Also, Yugi would probably use the Rod I think as a way to help counter against the Seal of Orichalcos. Perhaps he could use the Rod as a way to become the antagonist against Dartz. Snatch the souls before the Seal could. This would especially be haunting after Atem loses to Raphael and loses Yugi and goes on the evil bender.
Why would the duel disk accept such an illegal play though? It would be like if you pulled out a gun, shot at the rival monster and the hologram changes to reflect that action that has nothing to do with the card game.
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@@andresantoniovalencia1257 You can't expect that Scales do that for the cards, as that would require for the duel disk to accept such maneuver and show it as a hologram. Kaiba didn't even knew about the Scales, so why would he had programmed the duel disk to do such thing?
Would Yugi be able to switch sides to let Yami Marik and Yami Bakura be in control if he had all of the Millennium Items? Like would he able to switch between the Yami versions of himself, Marik and Bakura? If so then that would be interesting
Atem has access to all these abilities from the get go he just didn't remember how to use them. The items shared his power with people. The onyl one he didn't use was the eye. Some examples are. 1. He used the scales to see the darkness in kaiba's heart. 2.Used the key to unlock kaiba's mind. 3. Used the ring to seal kaiba's,Marik and Bokura's darkness away. 4.He used the puzzle in practially every duel. 5. He used the staff when atem was dueling seto in the flashback (You can see Atem summon a monster from a stone without the staff) 6. He used the necklace to look into the past.
One thing you left out about the puzzle is the person who solves the puzzle gets to make one wish, Yugi wished for friends, and so the puzzle gave him Atem
I think the central plot point of the series was to learn who Atem is and what is his purpose here. But it wasn't clear to us nor to the characters before Battle City - however we did get glimpses of that during the first meeting of Yugi and Atem (either during short Bakura Tabletop RPG Arc or in Duelist Kingdom during duel against him), where they realized they are not the same person but two different people.
I feel like this version of the series could lead into a sort of mind corruption where Yugi just thinks he can win every duel and goes from being closed off to becoming the ultimate series bad guy, using the power of every millenium item. His friends and adversaries realize how far off the deep end Yugi has gotten and try to challenge him in an ultimate tag duel at the end of the series. Yugi succombs to the power he's accrued, forging a literal pyramid in the city for all to witness his mighty power. Everyone goes to see whats going on with the pyramid, each key character and their related friends arriving on each side. Joey and Yugi's other friends come in on one side, Kaiba and his brother come in from another, Pegaus enters from yet another and finally, Bakura from the last. Each of them end up having to battle a test at the door perfectly crafted by the power of the millenium items to turn Yugis best cards into fierce duelists. Joey has to fight Slifer, Kaiba has to fight Dark Magician, Pegaus has to fight Ra, and Bakura has to fight Obelisk. Eventually, through various traps they make it to the final chamber, where Yugi is almost fully corrupted but there's still a small sliver of the old Yugi remaining, but not for long as the darkness seeps over his body as each of the millenium items give off powerful shade. The others know their only chance is to battle the overpowered Millenium Yugi together. An ultimate tag duel begins, with Joey, Kaiba, Pegasus, and Bekora against Millenium Yugi. The duel means nothing however, as Millenium Yugi is still able to sweep, until something comes from within... against the Millenium Yugi's will, his hand moves on its own. The millenium puzzle shines as Millenium Yugi draws "Change of Heart", immediately playing it and casting it on HIMSELF. The rest of the crew is stunned as a light blasts from Millenium Yugi, and a brand new monster appears on their side of the field... Silent Swordsman. Joey looks up, still in pain from losing the duel, as he utters... "Yugi...?" The crew has renewed confidence, still losing but each turn the Silent Swordsman is getting stronger and stronger, each time it grows it resembles Yugi a little more, his heart fighting on with his friends. The final turn, Millenium Yugi has Slifer, Obelisk, Ra, and Dark Magician on the field, while the crew has Silent Swordsman (Yugi), Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon, Red Eyes Black Dragon, and whichever cards are important to Bakura and Pegasus (i admittedly haven't gotten crazy far into the show) One by one, each of the crews monsters take down the egyption gods and dark magician, until they only have one monster left that can attack, and Millenium Yugi has no cards on the field. The crew takes one more look at each other, as they all bring their hands up in unison, and say together "Silent Swordsman, attack Millenium Yugi directly!" Yugi's soul, embodied by the swordsman, lunges back, raising its sword and releasing the final strike, causing a giant white flash. The crew looks stunned, as the camera shows each of the millenium items falling one by one, cracking as they hit the ground, ending with the millenium puzzle falling and breaking back into its pieces as Yugi's body falls onto its knees, and then onto the ground. Joey runs over, picking up the defeated Yugi, as Yugi slowly and painfully opens his eyes. "did we... Did we win...?" but before Joey can answer, the pyramid rumbles. Pegasus informs them that the power of the millenium artifacts made the pyramid, so now that they've been effectively deactivated, its all falling apart. They panic, until the centerpiece of the Millenium puzzle slowly lifts. Coming out from around it, the spirit of the pharoh. He takes responsibility, apologizing to Yugi for using him, as the spirit of the pharoh takes up the millenium items to keep the pyramid alive for long enough that they can escape.
If I think of this like a video game, collecting them would unlock a new talent tree in the millennium puzzle where aspects of the other items get unlocked but not the full power, and probably has a cooldown timer on activating abilities. Think of it like unlocking a new room in the soul puzzle room thing that happened when shadi went into the puzzle.
That off script tangent around 11:00 was the funniest thing I've ever seen you do in your videos and I've been watching you since I was in highschool i think 😂 you gotta make more videos like that lol
I think it would be cool if there was a Archetype based on the Millennium Items with effects that are similar to the anime. Millenium Puzzle: could have a drawing effect or be able to search a card and put it on top the Deck. Millennium Eye: It could force the opponent to reveal there hand and maybe a once per turn discarding effect. Millennium Rod: It would have a Monster stealing effect like Snatch Steal. Millennium Ring: It would be able to search for the other Millennium monsters and Millennium Spell and Trap support and add them to your hand. Millennium Necklace: It could Once per turn reveal the top 3 cards of your opponents Deck you can choose to send one of them to the Graveyard or make them shuffle there Deck. Millennium Key: It could have an effect to search your opponents Deck or Graveyard and banish a card once per turn. Millennium Scales: Maybe it could reveal Face down Spells and Traps on the Field. Tell me what you think about my concept for this hypothetical Archetype.
The necklace should put cards on top of the opponent's deck instead and the scales need an actually useful effect, preferably giving the opponent a choice. Idea : Reveal 1 monster from your opponent's Extra Deck; your opponent can banish it and all cards with the same name from their Extra Deck face-down until the end of this turn. If they don't, apply the following effect : During the End Phase, if your opponent didn't summon a monster with the same name as the revealed monster from their Extra Deck this turn : they must shuffle all cards they control into their deck also, for the rest of the Duel, they cannot summon monsters from the Extra Deck. Basically you're asking "will you summon this card this turn ?". If they say no, they don't need it so it goes bye-bye for a turn. If they say yes and lie, they get wrecked. The puzzle and the ring are searchers which make sense. I guess the puzzle would have extra effects if you're losing (like if your opponent has a big board or you got low LP). The eye and rod can't be anything else tbh. One small change I would make for the key is to banish all copies of the card. Banishing 1 is pretty useless, they gonna search it anyway.
@@dudono1744 I am impressed with the detail you put into the Millennium Scale effect because honestly it was the one I had the hardest time thinking of an Effect. Just a few minutes ago I thought of a similar idea for the Millennium Puzzle like Once per turn you can draw a card but if you have less Life Points than your opponent you can draw 2 cards instead.
@@leebulger7112 I have some experience in custom cards. Also you can be sure as hell that puzzle will get abused if it's a spell because it would be an extra upstart goblin.
@@dudono1744 I am imagining all of them to be monsters but perhaps we can add the users of the Millennium Items as monsters too and the items could be equipped like Union monsters giving them additional effects.
The way Yugi could not get the Eye too early is a scenario where Bakura still takes the eye from Pegasus after Duelist Kingdom because Yugi doesn’t know he needs them yet then he ends up getting it in the later seasons where he duels Bakura but doesn’t get the Ring because the Bandit King is still trying to enact his plan. He gets the Ring in the end and it points him to the final duel site so he knows where to go to get to the afterlife. Yugi uses the Rod to force some people to become good and see the errors of their ways. The Necklace is used with the Puzzle for Yami to know which card he needs and draw it without looking. The Key is used to free Bakura from the Bandit king at the end by going into his mind room and dispelling his influence. The Scale is used to tell whether people are lying and when it reacts a certain way it means they don’t know or somebody else is controlling them. Yami doesn’t put the Eye in until the Waking the Dragons Arc so he can save Yugi, that’s why Timaeus is missing his eye, then when Yugi gets his soul back only the Pharaoh has the eye because their bodies weren’t being shared when Yami used it. Its also symbolic showing how far he would steep himself in darkness to save Yugi in the end. In the final duel Yami gets his own body and is adorned with every item so Yugi has to play 4D chess out of his mind to even stand a chance and Yami with all 7 items and 3 Egyptian gods. Yami doesn’t use the eye on Yugi because it doesn’t work since they shared a body and mind for so long he only sees his own thoughts of Yugi.
2 things: 1.) I think you should start a series where you do a "rewriting Yu-Gi-Oh" thing, maybe 30-60 minute videos each. 2.) I think in terms of the story, we didnt get to really see all the powers of each millennium item, but I think the writers kinda directed us towards a line of thought for the most powerful ones. Im pretty sure it was Puzzle < Rod < Eye < Ring < Key < Necklace < Scale. But, they definitely all have like combat abilities/magic, like the rod was used to blast some yellow DBZ style blast at one point wasnt it? And pegasus ripped out souls with the eye
I would argue the Yugioh Duel Monsters run was about "Discovering the Mysteries of the Millennium Puzzle", which starts at learning about Yami Yugi, and ends with learning Yami Yugis name.
The rod can manipulate memory so it's usefull to make opponent forget what you play usually or forgetting you have used power in duel (so he won't tell anybody who can prepare a counter strategy)
I’m loving this “what if” series and have some prompts if you’re interested... What if Kaiba didn’t rip up the fourth Blue Eyes, and gave it back to Yugi after losing to him in episode 1? What if Yami Bakura didn’t allow Yugi to attack with Slifer at Battle City? What if Marik was dragged to the virtual world during the Noah storyline? What if Kaiba beat Yugi in battle city? What if Yugi beat Raphael and kept the Seal of Oricalchos? What if Kaiba or Joey dueled Atem in Yugi’s place, like they each wanted?
so I have a reason why he couldn't equip them all: its where each is placed -so the Eye is fine as it doesn't have competition as is the Necklace for similar reason -the Rod and Scales would be an issue as they are hand items so you couldn't hold both to duel -the Puzzle and Ring are also an issue as they are chest level necklaces so would be a pain finding a consistent position to have them on without overlapping or getting in the way -the Key is a sort of special case as it counts as a hand item but could be worn as a hip item but still the hand rule would apply as you still need a free hand to draw and play so while Yugi would be unstoppable with every Millennium Item equip realisticly he would only be a powerful set by only being able to equip 4 out of 7 in any/all duels
If you think about it, ZEXAL made a big thing about Shining Draw, but “the power to generate the very card you’ll draw” was actually coined by the Pharaoh way back in the original series 🤯
The eye- the puzzle- and the necklace are a dangerous combo. both inside and out side dueling you're pretty much set for life. you can read minds, see the future and be incredibly lucky. you have a cheat code for the best life possible.
It’s interesting you mention the Millennium Eye being the end game, but forget about Aknadin being a huge threat in the manga Millennium World arc Bakura had the mummy of Aknadin play in the Dark RPG and his memories contributed toward the game too
Wouldn’t the central plot for the first Yugioh series being Yami learning his real name? Also would Yami even want to use use the millennium eye since he would consider it cheating and going against his principles
Millennium ring effect: points to the best card on your field or in your hand to use that turn. Points to the card that gives you the most trouble on your opponent's side of. Millennium rod effect: can grant the user a special quip card of itself that can control an opponent's monster(s) Millennium key: unlock the duelist true potential or seal opponents potential. Unlock normal monsters into affect monsters Millennium scale: gauges the skill level over both you and your opponent
I think if Yugi got the Millennium Items the series would adjust to creating situations to use them and creating ways to subvert or foil their powers. For instance, maybe Yugi gets the Scales early on. Maybe when Marik controls a person it can't read them properly, like it mistargets the wrong person. You could have the mind shuffle flipped back on Yugi by having someone collaborate with the Rod holder. Also I could see Yugi being forced to use the Rod by being put in more physical danger where controlling guards or something might be more useful. You could even present a game-like scenario where you have to plan out who to control and for what purpose to escape or free someone. Like when Tristan invades Pegasus's castle to rescue Mokuba. The Necklace presents a lot of challenge. We know it can fail but how do you balance making it useful and making it not OP. The Key could maybe act as a memory scrambler, so while you may see the future you can never remember it when fighting the Key holder.
I'd also like to point out that the millennium puzzle granted Yuki's wish for friendship as it was pointed out. But Cora's evil spirit wanted the power. And they had to give up what the millennium puzzle granted, which was friendship. It was just gonna slaughter yugi's friends.
3:15 you missed the entire point of the show obviously from the end of season 1 onward it was to get the Pharaohs name and his memories this is why he participated in Battle City and it’s why Bobasa gave Yugi the cartouche
The Millennium Rod is easily the most useful for a duelist. The amount of spectator attention on your hands during duels makes clean finger nails a must.
I dunno why, but a YGO RPG could be a cool idea. If the puzzle is a neutral piece and the other 6 are split down the middle between good and evil, maybe you get to choose an item each duel and depending on how many good/neutral/evil items you used, you'd build a rep and general level could let you bring more items. Just a random thought as you described how all the items could be used in a single duel.
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I feel in this hypothetical, bakora should still get the millennium eye and make the series a race to collect them before bakora can
Yeah, that makes sense.
Also even though he went off about forcing Yugi to use the eye or rod, that's just silly.
Obviously you just have the story put his friends in danger so Yugi wants to use the eye and rod once he does gets them.
It would honestly have made sense for Bakura to bumrushed for the "evil" millennium items... like he basically does in the series. Yugi, getting the "good" items but only using them in actual shadow games or just not being able to use them well/consciously could have worked.
The necklace could show Yugi glimpses of important moments or of threats in the future. The key activating against strong opponents showing him their past. Honestly, I have no idea how the scale would have been used.
We know the eye and rod were used to pull monsters out of people's souls so Bakura could have been doing that as the rising action leading to Atem's and Zorn's confrontation.
Bakura.
Atem and Yugi would be the only ones with a chance to beat bakura
I was thinking the same thing. Pegasus makes a deal with Bakura, but before he can give or transfer it to Yugi, Bakura comes through and steals it.
Viewing the Puzzle as a Luck+ stat boost is the greatest way to explain it
That could just be Atem's ability, not really the puzzle.
It was started before, the Puzzle grants a wish, which Yugi used for friends. Nothing is stated about the bounds of this wish.
@@R055LE.1it has the power of darkness and justice so it has two powers.
@@Dragon66898 ok but what does that even mean tho
Even explains the beginning of the manga, like in one there was a dice game against a badguy of the week, the guy rolled a six, so yugi needed a 6 to at least tie, however, when he rolled the dice, it broke in 2, and actually got a 7 to win the game
Well yeah...cause that what it does in the series, every time yugi got a destiny draw it was because the puzzle manifested his will into pulling the exact card he needed aka a luck booster.
You know, I do have an idea for the Millennium Rod. First, Yugi would ask his friends if he could try something, make a mental link with Joey, Triston, Tea, maybe Duke, Serenity and Rebecca, depending on the season. Then, if they're separated, first, he uses the rod, checks if they're alright, if they know where they are. Then, oh no! Someone challenged Serenity to a duel! But wait! Yugi uses the rod and basically walks her through the duel to keep her safe. And maybe a villain knows he can do this and tries to overwhelm Yugi by having 5 duels at once, 6 if you want to include Yugi himself. What do you think?
Oh this is the best setup for a filler arc post three dragons I could imagine. Make it pre Egypt and it ties in with Yugi becoming a champion duelist in his own right. One night Yugi is jumped by the new big bad, the puzzle is shattered and the pieces given to multiple villains. It could then play out like a reverse spirit keys season in GX where each one of Yugi's friends splits up to find a piece of the puzzle while Yugi recovers. Guided by the necklace showing him visions of his friends in danger of losing their soul Yugi gives in to temptation and uses the rod to try and help. While the darkness would push him to take over completely he settles for sitting back and offering support, letting him know that he's there for them like they have always been there for him. Then the finale comes and Yugi is torn between all the duels while he challenges the big bad for the final piece until his friends ask him to trust them to stand on their own. Able to focus on his duel he wins the final piece, reassembles the puzzle, and leaves to meet up with his friends who just managed to scrape by.
Cool idea
He would take control of Tea's mind and make her finger herself.
@@asim3105 she already does that lol. She fingers Yami too.
Nah. Yami always wins. I'd rather see his friends fight by themselves since they don't have plot armor
The actual moral of the story is you need all 7 millennium items to beat mirror force
follow by judgment of anubis if you tempt to destroy mirror force with a spell
The thought of little Yugi saying in the anime "Does he have mirror force in his hand? No? Pog." In his high pitched voice has had me dying laughing for several minutes now
Some corrections:
The dark millenium items are not evil. The only exception is the Ring, and only because it houses the Thief King. I think it's like Black in MTG: it means seeing things through no matter the cost, or how taboo the method. Kaiba in the series (the canon rod bearer) is overall a great example of this, especially in DSOD.
The scale does not detect truth from lies, it shows the balance of a person's soul. That would be able to show malicious lies, but not bluffs in a card game. I imagine it would be most useful to, say, sniff out Rare Hunters.
Finally, there are two good uses for the ring. The first one is in certain gamble cards, stuff like Magical Hats. The second is buying packs and getting all the cards you want.
If Yugi used all the millennium items, a good way to still add tension would be that the more of them you used, the more corrupted you became or the more you lost yourself, and Yugi would have to choose between using them to win or losing himself, and it'd be an allegory for fighting addiction.
yeah especially if you use the Millennium ring, because magical rings corrupt
I was thinking pretty much the same thing; Yugi using the Items will have a set limitation since he's not the original user, and if he tries to overused either one he'll risk suffering from the dire consequences.
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What if he used it for bad....
so pretty much like the seal of orichalcos except slowly over time
I don't think he'd get the eye that early, when Pegasus left to release the souls he had taken he was jumped by Bakura. I can see him promising to give the eye after he releases the souls but Bakura takes it before Yugi could get it.
Plus the soul release could be portrayed as a skill thing where you need to know what you’re doing to be able to do it so Pegasus would release the souls and bakura would take it before Pegasus can give it to yugi as it also wouldn’t change Pegasus’ character as Pegasus was never truly evil and actually stuck to his word even when he lost
Yeah, pegasus even said in the dub: "im a man of my word" before releasing the souls.
Cleaning the dirt from his nails with the rod is the most OP ability of all
I love that joke. Has Yugi make use of EVERY Milenium Item in the duel even if it's really not one that's needed. But rather then makign hs opponent some kind of pupet to purosly lose, You just cleans dirt from his nails with the Rod. THe Rod is great for a villain, but for a hero not so much.
Also a reminder that the Eye didn't just allow Pegasus to see what was in an opponent's hand, it allowed him to read their thoughts and by extension, knowing what the facedowns are. That's how Yugi and Atem beat him because they would switch before Pegasus could read their mind
I always thought that the main ability was mind reading and that's how he knew the hand and facedows.
If you go by the manga timeline, Atem should have the Ankh and Scales before Duelist Kingdom, assuming he pilfered them from Shadi's dead body after their shadow game at the museum. (Yes, I know he's a ghost but that is a retcon, during his first appearance he clearly had a physical body and at one point was even afraid of dying inside Atem's mind palace.
It should also be noted that the physical body does not enter the mind room, for everyone else, Shadi and Yugi were standing still motionless; this is shown at the Shadow RPG where Yami's friends were static in the museum's room.
So if Shadi was just a spirit, he would probably be dead dead (dead²) if he died inside Yami's room.
Maybe that would mean his two Millennium Items would simply fall onto the floor? Ignoring things like how can a spirit carry stuff in the first place.
(Then again the manga seemingly doesn't care, as in the Shadow RPG Yugi's body was separate from Atem's "body", yet he lacks a body, so that figure could only have been his spirit, and he was moving physical cards and figurines at the table)
We had a retcon of that happen again in DSOD. Shadi’s orginal body was Destroyed by Bakura. But dying a second time via your soul is a scary thought. Ancient Egypt did believe in the concept of a second death as did ancient Mesoamerica. Hense some of the gods like Babi which is referenced in the card art of Just Desserts.
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While it may have some retconniness to it, there is a really odd moment in the Duelist Kingdom arc of the manga where Yami-Bakura looks at Shadi's portrait and says, "I never expected to see his face here...", and then laughs. So there was some sort of planned history there.
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shadi also saved tristan on a blimp
Shadi was able to wield both the scales and the key so it’s definitely possible to use multiple. Granted he may be a special case but if anyone were going to be allowed to use all of them, it would be Atem/his reincarnation.
Yami Yugi only used the Millennium Necklace once. It showed him a vision of him dueling Joey after Battle City.
My interpretation of the necklace remains self-fulfilling prophecy: it shows what the future will look like based on choices you will take as a result of seeing that future - meaning you know exactly which deck to build for each duel because if you were to loose, you would build a deck that counters whatever would cause you to loose or avoid that duel entirely. However, it does not compute the other millenium items or similar powerful magic.
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You make me fall in love with yugioh all over again with every video.
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Yeah, his would make you follow anything he could be talking about
Yugi would be OP if he had all of the millennium items, but here's another what if. What if Konami prints the millennium items into real life cards based on their abilities in the anime.
I want that. I've designed over 20 variations of each card as a custom.
How would their abilities translate to gameplay? Necklace showing the top card of the opponent's deck? Eye showing the opponent's hand? Puzzle basically lets you stack your deck?
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets To balance it out, maybe Puzzle will alow you to select 5 cards from your deck amd your opponent picks at random
Puzzle: Each turn you draw 2 cards. Put one of the cards to the bottom of your deck.
Eye: Reveal the hand of the enemy permanently.
Necklace: You can check the order of your deck.
Ring: Pick a card from your deck add it to your hand.
Staff: Each turn you declare the first attack from your enemy.
Key: Check enemy deck, and sort it in whatever way you want.
Scale: Each turn compare two monsters, kill the weaker one.
@@j3nki541 Ring would insantly become a staple 3 of. Even thrust is an 80$ card and it only allows you to search a spell or trap under very specific conditions
Yugi could use the Rod: telepathic links with his friends! He doesn’t have to exert control over them, but if they willingly opened up to the rod, it could link them all so he knows where they are if they’re in danger; or see through their eyes so he can direct them
An interesting restriction would be if one person could only ever use one item at a time... and Yugi + Yami count as two people. So at the start of a duel, they could strategically pick one secondary item to use.
The eye, no question about it
@@ernesto8290 would yugi or atem use the eye in this case?
Shadi used both the key and the scale at the same time
@@okyx3985 Shadi was probably a special case being the guardian of the millennium items in all
Interesting idea.
I remember Marik taking the Ring from Bakura and secretly wearing it. I always thought he might got a little more unhinged than he already was, because the Ring at an effect on him.
I think Yugi could've lost the Eye to maybe Bakura/Zorc. As for the Rod, maybe his friends get trapped in a maze, and he's the only one that knows the layout. So he has to control their minds to avoid them getting hurt. Also, maybe Yugi can only use one item at a time, but Yami has the ability to use all of them. And since Yami doesn't fully know himself until the end of the series, he slowly unlocks the ability to use the different items.
He’d be absolutely insane with the Millennium eye and puzzle combo. A monster luck boost and being able to read your opponent’s mind?
Gonna be doing nothing but one turn, first turn & 0 turn kills lol
I think the ultimate question is.
With all of these Millennium Items at Yugi's disposal...
Would he finally know what Pot of Greed does?
Nothing in the universe has ever had knowledge of what pot of greed does
@@joshuarobinson6011except Frog the Jam
Yugi would had to give up his soul in exchange for such forbidden knowledge.
Scale : Yes or no question doesn't work
Eye : Where's the flavor text 4kids ?
Necklace : Nobody in the future found out
Rod : All the rare hunter didn't found sh*t
Puzzle : Luck boost found an ancient text but you got memory loss right after
Ring : Poiting is just rude
Key : Tried to enter in the pot of greed and got trapped
Maybe
What if suggestion: what if Jaden had been using Yubel the whole series
The entire Supreme King arc would have been pointless. The Sacred Beasts arc would have pointed us to Nightshroud (I forget the Japanese name at the moment) real fast.
What if it was the supreme king instead of Jaden who enrolled into the academy? No "dueling for fun" nonsense. I'd imagine he just wipes the floor with everyone without giving a single fuck. Aster gets rolled, Zane gets rolled, Sartorius gets rolled, Yubel gets rolled, and Yugi would likely be the only one to beat him.
Something to take into account if just for fun is the hypothesis that none of the items beyond the puzzle existed outside of the puzzle's own creation. Initiatially in the manga, none of the lore was known or eluded to beyond the puzzle. It was an item that would grant one wish to its completer. This is drastically different from the lore that it eventually would take..when Yugi completed it, he wished for friends. Beforehand, the world was mostly normal but would become more and more like an adventure manga with magic, uneblievable technology and other things that wouldnt really happen/exist occuring more often. The hypothesis is that the puzzle was granting Yugis wish in the way a nerdy young japanese boy into puzzles would best appreciate.. by altering reality to make him the protagonist of a cartoon adventure. Bakura was the first indication of other items existing and even the Pharoh was set up so he only knew as much about any of his background as it was being unraveled to everyone else. He was a figment created by the puzzle as were all the other dark spirits and items. Solomon is shown to have seen the pharoh spirit when retrieving the item but that was only near the end, with him recalling it. It also contradicts his story from before. He initially claimed he was interested in egypt and retrieved it form a dig. The memory instead portrays him as a devonair, thrill junky gambler who only went to the tomb to face the ultimate challenge. It is a mix of James Bond and Indiana Jones never before eluded to. There are a lot of subtle instances like this that indicate reality was shifting to accomodate the new story about the items as they were unraveling. This includes others like the ring having been a Bakura Family heirloom to something his father got him in Egypt while away on a trip to Bakura having been there himself to kill Shadi. Shadi's own backstory shifts a lot from a mortal keeper of the items to the earthbount spirit of an angelic entity that failed to keep a deal with the Pharoah's dad for his saftey to the ghost of the item's keeper who was also a mystic of other supernatural forces. Yugi gained friends but through an adventure where elements and events shifted to the convenience of the journey and the world became like sonething out of a comic than what it origionally was. There is honestly a lot more I didn't cover that supports the idea that the puzzle was intiatially its own thing and the only truely magical element of that world. This also implies, however, that Yugi was on rails. He was going through the motions of the story the puzzle made for him to experience for the fullfillment of his wosh but he never was in any actual danger or strayed from the plan. He never WOULD be able to wield all the ttems because that isnt what a manga protagonist would do. He would save the day, release the pharoah and walk away with friends. Even the closing narration of the manga eludes to all this. Yugi states that this wasn't the story of a great pharoah but one of himself comming to his own and making bonds with friends in the process..suspiciously close to the wish he made on the puzzle toward the start.
In the Memory World, the Scale can also be used as a substitute for Polymerization letting you fuse any monsters you have out. It is unknown whether you have to have the monsters on your field or if you can use monsters in the hand but even if they have to be on the field, a Polymerization for the field you can use infinitely without drawing it would be really good in the first anime. The question is if the memory world abilities work in the modern day since none of them are used outside of the memory world.
9:16 The Millennium Eye would let Yugi see into his opponents mind revealing what cards they have in their hand and were used to construct their deck. The Millennium Necklace would allow Yugi to see what cards his opponents would draw in the upcoming turns.
Here are some ideas of What If's:
-What if Noah didn't die in the car accident?
-What if Yugi took over Atem and ripped the Seal in front of Rafael?
-What if Kaiba found out that he and Yugi are present real-life cousins?
-What if Bakura dies a lot earlier?
-What if the Legendary Knights give their owners all their dragon powers for future duels?
For a Valentines' Day bonus for the following year: What if Tea and Alexis dated their respective protagonists throughout the anime? (If only romance would be allowed in its entirety in the series) [Of course, everyone would know these already]
Yugi would be unbeatable if he used them all super OP mode
As if the fucker wasn't already unbeatable
Nope. He would not be able to function. Each item is corrupting to some level, with the ring being the worst. That one alone was so powerful in its dark influence that it took the most gifted magician of the time just to wield it on its own. The truth about the items being revealed to Tragodea was a big part of his psychological collapse, but it's clear the ring was guiding it. After that Shimon Muran had to abandon his own item and use every ounce of strength he had to temporarily don the ring. It was just long enough to use it to find another weirder for it but it nearly corrupted him entirely in that short time and he was the second most powerful weirder of items at the time. He was the one who controlled the unstoppable exodia and the ring still nearly drained him of his will in the time it took to lead him to Mahado. This was the only owner who seemed capeable of using the ring without any negative impact. Another factor however, is when Yugi would wield these. After Mahados death and the Pharaoh's sacrifice, both the ring and puzzle held parts of Zorcs soul. This made thier corrupting influence even worse. This is why Yami was so messed up in season zero. The influence would be lessened but still present in the puzzle and especially in the ring ubtil Zorc was defeated. Reguardless, the items were all possessions of Zorcs creation with the purpose of his dominance. They were a genies wish a d as powerful as they were, each would hold malignant power on their users like the One Ring in LotR. If anyone attempted to use them all, even after the Zorc soul fragments were expunged and it was Yugi, they surely would break that person in no time. Zorc was a demon who wished only harm on the world. The items were presented as tools of order but clearly cuased the opposite as their true intent. This is part of why so many wielders became driven to collect them all once they got one. The items were influencing their owners to self destruct in a manner that would have the most collateral impact. Sure they wouldpowerful, because they would be a minor form of Zorc himself. Each item holds just one facet of the Demon Zorc Necrophedes powers but never at an extent to match him, just overwhelm the human. This is why they had to be split up amongst the priests in the first place. The prior Pharoh and Atem weirded the pendent/puzzle bu6 if they COULD weird then all, wouldn't that have been the case?
Super Ancient Egyptian!
Joke about Super Saiyan.
@@buddyzilla4557It was actually Zorc not Tragodea.
@@Dragon66898 I'm confused what you mean. Zorc was the demon. The Millenium ritual was the alchemic pact made with him to allow his cross into the mortal realm. He offered the items, the control of Exodia and a single wish by the one performing the ritual. These all came back to bite the priests in the butt. Zorc himself was released but in a weakened form, attaching to the young thief Bakura as his Ka Diabound. He would not take his true form until the self proclaimed thief king commited enough evil acts to transform it into Zorc. It is clear he was influencing Bakura to enable this but he was not his own entity able to do anything independently before this point. In millenium world we learn that the ring was the greatest corrupter, that Mahado was not its first weilder, that that indidual fell to its influence, that Shimon Shuran had to temporarily take possession of it to find Mahado as a replacment keeper and that it almost corrupted him in the process. In Yugioh GX we learn that this first weilder was Tragodea. He was a gifted magician like Mahado but instead an astrologer from Cul Elna. He was personally selected by the prior Pharoah to come be his perosnal priest in that art. It was a goodwill gesture between the thief city and the main kingdom that showed even someone form such a place could rise to high status. His story greatly paralleled that of Mahado. He was purposely not present when the ritual was conducted and did not know the origins of the items buy the ring helped ensure he became aware. When this happened, he believed it was a betrayal by the Pharoah and went to confront him before being stopped by the other priest. The fate eluded to was that the other priest banished him to the hellish dimention the items created and making him the first one there. This intrinsically bound him to the realm and caused him to become the monster he would over time. We even see the spirts of the priests from before show up to help Jaden and Chaz in their final duel agaisnt him to end things once and for all. Zorc was defeated and the Pharoah free but the orgional weirder of the ring still possesed power and a vendetta as a result. Zorc never actually weilded the ring in full. The thief king would steal it AFTER Mahado but this was a vessel of Zorc before and during the time the demon was manifested fully in him. Zorc has the power to split his soul and the thief king did this repeatedly. He put a piece into the ring itself, which became the spirit of the ring and allowed the entrapment of the rest of Zorc to loosen in the puzzle. He also placed a piece in the high priest who was already being corrupted by the initial ritual/wish he made during it for his son to become pharoh. Once Zorc is fully manifested and free of Bakura however, we learn he seems disjointed from all this and does not see the pieces of his own soul as part of him. He treats both the theif king and high priest as his expendable servants at most and is even intrigued by how they claim to be him thanks to posseing a bonded part of his soul..something he doesn't akcnolwagement as confirmedly true. Zorc himself only held automous influence but didn't truely show as a conscious entity in himself until transforming from Diabound toward the climax. He is aware of the ritual, his bonding to Bakura and overall plot however. He even reveals that Exodia and the items never stood a chnave against him as they were HIS creation and he planned it so they would fail agaisnt him of used that way. He had never used them himself however as it wouldn't make any sense..why would he? They were pale imitations of his own natural powers that were granted to mortals.
It is possible that people couldn't use multiple items if the items didn't choose them since Bakura never uses the Millenium Eye. However, we know that if multiple items choose you, you can use them since Shadi uses both the Scale and Key.
Here are two interesting ideas I thought of as What-if scenarios. Both of which are from the Waking the Dragon Arc.
1. What if Yugi won against Raphel after using the Seal of Orichalchos? What if, at one point during the duel, Yugi decided to use the Seal of Orichalcos and used Catapult Turtle to wipe out Raphael's Life Points? Would he become power hungry, using the Seal's power more and more, until it gets to the point where he turns against everyone else, resulting in his friends need to pull an intervention? Or would it be a one-time thing, toss the Seal of Orichalcos, but will eventually realize that there are some severe consequences because of his actions? Mainly, how the Eye of Timaeus will refuse to be used by Yugi until he learns a lesson. If it's the former, then what if he took it a step further by abandoning the Eye of Timaeus, as he can't use that card if he decides to use the Seal of Orichalcos?
2. What would've happened if Joey Wheeler joined Yugi and Kaiba with their duel with Dartz? One thing that always bothers me was the fact that, despite that Yugi, Kaiba and Joey were chosen the wield the powers of the three Dragons, Joey was removed from the final act so he could save Mai from herself. And while I don't have a problem with Joey saving Mai, I do wish that there was a way to bring him back to team up with Yugi and Kaiba with the final battle with Dartz.
that three way duel vs dartz would of been awesome cause dragon master knight along iwht dark flare knight/mirage knight would be just annoying to deal with
No one who uses the seal win,
@@ked49 "No one who uses the Seal wins," you say? Let's see, Gurimo beat both Weevil and Rex, Mai Valentine beat Maximilian Pegasus, as well as Joey Wheeler in their rematch, and Dartz beat Kaiba during his 1v2 Duel against Yugi and Kaiba.
For the goal of the series, it’s supposed to be Yugi wanting friends and using games to connect with people as well as gaining confidence. Unfortunately DM YGO picks up in the middle of this so both get lost. Like at no point in DM do we really see Yugi lacking for confidence or friends, so it becomes solely focused on Other Yugi/Atem.
I’d love to see you include the effects of the items as they were used in ancient Egypt. For example, priest seto used the rod to seal the extracted spirits from within people into the stone tablets. They have so many odd quirks the rod in particular is used for a ton of random things.
Maybe the Rod could be used as a single turn Spell Binding Circle or suchlike to bind or trap the opponent's monter?
Wouldn't the Millennium Eye utterly obsolete the reality altering ability of the Puzzle? Like, the Puzzle's abilities become more potent the more dire situation becomes for Yugi, but it'll never come to that because every duel will always be in Yugi's favor as he can read other people's minds.
that wont stop him from getting bad draws though.
I'd say quite the opposite. If you know what your opponent has, you then know exactly what to draw to counter them.
@@SSBBPOKEFANalso we’ve seen the necklace be wrong when ishizu dueled kaiba. People can make last minute decisions that change the outcomes it will predict. The eye only helps if yugi remembers every card and it’s effect that his opponent sets and to see what’s in the hand currently. But even then I could see him electing to just not use the eye unless it’s the BBEG of the arc.
@@LionWithAGun Kaiba changing the future only happened because of the millenium rod
The Puzzle doesn’t have reality altering powers
Omg I can just imagine how bakura must be feeling if he's facing a yugi with 6 millennium items
Yugi: you know......... fun isn't something one considers when playing a shadow game. But this....... (*holds up the millennium rod*) does put a smile on my face
*bakura sweats profusely*
Bakura pulls out Tearlaments.
The Millennium Ring and Rod have evil spirits in them and periodically posses Bakura and Marik
@@leociresi4292rod doesn't. Marik had a split personality from his abuse
@MrObscureinsanity in fact said personality first emerged before Marik ever laid hands on the Rod. Though I can't imagine having possession of a mind-control staff helped with the whole becoming a villain thing
With this new found power yugi can now fight his opponents monsters himself no other Monster cards requiered
I feel like there's an easy fix for 'sacrificing an eye'
in season 0, when Yami Yugi awakens, a third eye appears on his head., maybe, just maybe, Yami Yugi could take the millenium eye, somehow get it into Yugi's mind and take the risk and open a hole in his forehead and put the eye in its place (using season 0's physical mind labyrinth, making Yami able to interact physically with himself and others inside his room), so whenever little Yugi awakens into Yami Yugi, that third eye appears, being the millenium eye in Yami's forehead, which he can see through)
*Yugi stares down Kaiba with one glairing eye, scales on one hand and a rod on the other, weighed down by 3 heavy artifacts hanging from his neck*
Kaiba: you're move, Yugi
Yugi: lets do this. I draw.
*Awkwardly bends down to pull a card with his teeth*
JUUUUUDGE!
"the Millennium Rod, which I keep clenched between my buttocks."
I'd say the scale would more likely be a polymerization on the go. In the last arc, it was used to fuse monsters together, so in a duel, it would more likely let him fuse without polymerization
millennium rod could have work against mind controlled individuals or such especially in orichalcus arc
I just make the opponent my slave and make them do stupid moves.
Hear me out,
Duelist Kingdom - Bakura takes the Eye from Pegasus and starts using it
Battle City - Kiaba wins the Necklace instead of an ante card from Ishizu and uses it against Marrick and Yugi
Waking the Dragons - Joey gets the Key from Shadi and uses it to save Mai in their 2nd duel
KC Cup - Yugi has the Puzzle and Rod, Joey has the Key, Kaiba has the Necklace, Bakura has the Eye, and Shadi has the Scale. Kaiba throws a tournament to draw out the Millennium Items in a final bid to win the Egyptian God Cards from Yugi. Then with Yugi winning, Bakura reveals he has the Ring and the Dawn of the Duel arc starts in a final showdown between Yugi and Zorc.
11:21 “Millennium Eye!”
*pewsh pewsh*
I had to replay this part several times 🤣
Well it's not just the Millenium Eye's mind reading that makes Pegasus formidable but also the fact that he's the Father of modern Duel Monsters.
Pegasus kinda relied on the eye and exclusive cards nobody else had access to.
@@dreamcream3738 As is his right as the Creator.
He'd go from Yami Yugi to Bling Yugi. Mayhap even Drip Yugi.
@@WARDO0802 👏👏👏
Wasn’t it Pharaoh that sealed away the Millennium Items before his soul was banished into the Millennium Puzzle?
@@leociresi4292 Beats me. Last I saw Yu-Gi-Oh was when 4kids was big. My lore is rusty at best.
A little theory that I have on why those three specific items are "Evil" are because during the Millennium World arc, we see Zorc corrupt/take over the users of the Millennium Eye, Rod, and he even put a part of his being into the ring. That darkness would stay in the items until Atem defeats Zorc at the end of the series. This would help explain where Yami Marik came from. He was around the rod his entire life, with Zorc's darkness slowly corrupting him and using him like a puppet
I'm pretty sure ol' Melvin is the result of split personality disorder gone horribly wrong from trauma. And that happened technically before he ever had the Rod in his actual possession.
@@brolytriplethreat In the manga / sub, IIRC, the knife in the Rod is what was used to give Marik his tattoos, which is what awakened Yami Marik, so there is a chance that the Rod had some influence in Yami Marik's creation besides the physical trauma. Though I agree that Yami Marik is just a DID alter, and a rare malevolent one at that, rather than a byproduct of the Rod's metaphysical properties.
@@samhuffer7005 I mean the part where they become two fully distinct entities and start trying to erase eachother's souls using Shadow Magic is probably a byproduct of that, but Melvin himself started as DID from trauma
Never closed "was kaiba about to defeat yugi? [Clash in the coloseum]" so fast
Why use Exodia to obliterate when you can just use all the Millennium Items and obliterate them yourself
Pegasus: “Alright bro you won my game, here’s your family back”
Yugi: “Rip out your eyeball”
Pegasus: “Alright buster you’re pushing it”
Yugi:”Damn straight, Maxi boy!”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I always believed the Puzzle had the Power to turn Cheating attempts against the Cheater in Question, but my Main Point of Support comes from the pre-Duelist Kingdom Manga. In one Chapter, Yugi and Joey go to an Arcade, and Yugi plays a few Rounds of a BeU against someone, and wins them all. His Opponent is a sore Loser however, and in the same Arcade, (the Arcades having been established as being connected Nation-wide earlier) so he tracks Yugi, beats him RL, and steals the Puzzle. Joey then catches up with the Thief, and demands the Puzzle back. The Thief offers to play a Game for it, that he intends to rig. Joey turns that around however, by saying "I am the One who wants something from you, so i will take this Risk to my Health and Life alone, and still beat you. And he does. I belive that the Puzzle judged both "Players" in this Case, and ensured the Victory for the honorable Player, even when it was not worn by him
Actually I could 100% see Yugi in this hypothetical using the millenium rod in a kind of "diet" version. Rather than outright turning people into slaves, he could use the rod to force the opposing player to make the plays and mistakes that he wants (sort of like the opposite version of the puzzle). Moreover, using the rod in conjunction with the way you proposed the millenium key may be used to adjust a person's behavior at their core, the opposing player may not even know they are being manipulated by the rod because they are still doing what they think seems best.
As a final note, use of these alongside the necklace, would you allow you to easily determine which plays the opponent will make that would cause you the most trouble (ie. which decisions to target with the key and rod combo).
Tldr:
The key, rod, and necklace could be another broken combination, just like eye and puzzle.
To this day I think its kind of a shame that we never got a Race to Egypt type arc ( cue *Walk like an Egyptian* )
Like, maybe Yami Bakura reawakens, snatches the Necklace and Rod and hightails it to the resting place of the Millenium Items, knowing the last 2 are there anyway, forcing the main characters to chase him down, leading into the *final arc*
I think the dangerous nature of getting chosen or denied by the items makes it make sense that they wouldn't even try to use the others. Assuming, of course, that they learned that at some point (I don't remember if that's the case or not).
Fun fact: manga Jaiden had the ability to will draws into existence, all without the puzzle. He just kinda does it.
Later, it’s (kinda) explained as Ma’at whispering in his ear what card he’s gonna draw.
But notice how I said that: *”what card he’s gonna draw.”*
Also yes that makes Ma’at’s ability completely busted.
However, that’s not the same as quite literally thinking “give me Kuriboh” and getting Kuriboh. Yet he does this. Like, a lot.
So how?
The obvious answer is that when Yugi gave him Winged Kuriboh, he also passed a bit of power on. However, this doesn’t work.
See, Yugi and Jaiden only meet in the anime. And Jaiden’s drawing bullshit is a manga-only kind of thing. So I’ll ask again.
How?
Now, this comment is long enough, so I’m just gonna say that Ma’at does it’s thing, and that’s how.
But what do you guys think?
The funniest part is that the eye basically covers all the use cases for the scales and most for the neckless (other than knowing your opponent's next top deck before their turn). You don't need a lie detector when you can straight up read minds.
Due to how the Ring acts as a compass that guides towards what the user wants, I feel like it could provide "guidance" when duelling, not so much giving certain knowledge about things so much as a sense of direction on where to go/ what to do to achieve what you want. So it wouldn't tell you what the opponent's face-downs are, but if you MST it'll guide your attention towards the target that'd give you the most trouble based on what you want to do with your turn. That'd also fit with Bakura's "There are ways I like to win and ways I hate to win" line from the end of his BC duel with Yugi, since his item helps him win the way he wants to win and he does mostly play unusual builds by anime standards like empty jar, destiny board lockdown etc.
At some point though it gets a bit too heavy on the magic and it'd start to be questionable who good of a duellist Yugi actually is if he's leaning on all these millennium items, especially when the key gets involved. It would however have been interesting to see the key being used to counteract the rod's mind control or even exorcizing Bakura's mind parasite from the puzzle if he'd gotten it early.
Started playing the game like 5 months ago and this channel helped me make an okay deck. You’re the king of games in my eyes,
Would be an interesting kinda way to play. The justice items could only be used by yugi while the darkness ones could only be used by yami, the puzzle obviously both could benefit from. Though think just eye + puzzle would be all they'd need 'oh has that card, i need this card to counter it' then puzzle luck boost draws the card.
honestly, I love this channel for all the lore and fun trivia of my favorite hobby. Much needed break from card prices and metagame 😅
Ok I love ur videos on the duels and sum of the explanation archetypes but this one had me laughing and it was a great listen about yugi being overpowered. Lmao this sounded like the type of convo I would have with my friends fr. Keep up the great work my guy
I honesty think it would be more about the outside powers. Imagen someone with Yugi's level of kindness. With the Eye he could see someone's memory, with the key he could see their true nature. With the scale he could pass judgment on someone's true self. With the rod he could compel someone to go confess to a crime. The Necklace could show him some tragedy before it happened and he could maybe stop it. All while maybe the show showing more of the struggle between the desire to help reform others and desires to go full dictator over someone's actions.
Good example, your friend has a drug problem but doesn't want to stop. Meaning trying to make him clean up his act won't work. Do you rewrite his free will with the items or let him crash to rock bottom and go deeper while knowing you could have saved him before he destroy his life.
The ring being able to point out cards in duels at any time would be a pretty dope ability. If you had knowledge of your opponents decks (which bakura generally did) it woild be near impossible to spring a trap on bakura if he didnt want you to. Thematically similar to how bakura was always able to escape danger despite being cornered multiple times.
They eye would easily do that and much more.
I'm JUST finishing a re-watch of Yu-Gi-Oh! DM and am in the middle of the Millennium World arc and this is a super interesting topic! Love these what if videos and would love to see one on what if Yugi hadn't mind crushed Kaiba in the first episode? We would've seen a much darker Kaiba, maybe even a Kaiba who embraced the power of the Millennium Rod?
a common misconception is that Atem can will a card to the top of his deck. It's actually that his resolve is so strong that it causes that next card to have always been, for example, MST. Like a reversal of cause and effect
The issue with the Eye is you'd need to completely change his character, even when he was in a real possible state of losing, Yugi never even thought negative about his opponent unless it was blatant, he always fought with respect and honesty, even IF he had the power to use, I doubt he actually would. Seems he'd rather lose gracefully than win with underhanded tactics
I think way to balance out have all the Millennium items would be having the puzzle act like a curse instead. The more dire the situation the luckier you are but also have the opposite also be true, the more sure you are of winning the unluckier you are. So as Yugi would get more items the greater his winning odds and therefore the worse luck he would have.
I think taking the Millennium Ring with the Eye at the end of S1 would still work. If I recall correctly, the Ring just teleports back to Bakura. So even though Yugi does take it, while sleeping or even traveling, the Ring could disappear and return to Bakura.
Also, Yugi would probably use the Rod I think as a way to help counter against the Seal of Orichalcos. Perhaps he could use the Rod as a way to become the antagonist against Dartz. Snatch the souls before the Seal could. This would especially be haunting after Atem loses to Raphael and loses Yugi and goes on the evil bender.
Yugi looking like the CIA spying on every duelist before they even said they want to duel him
The scale in the past did a fueion, so maybe, you can use it to create new fusions, as Legendary dragons did
Why would the duel disk accept such an illegal play though?
It would be like if you pulled out a gun, shot at the rival monster and the hologram changes to reflect that action that has nothing to do with the card game.
@@Dexuz because it hapenbed, like in allá waking they dragonw, and in duelist kingdom, fusions we're weird, so, I SEE no problem, it si weirder tanto they card You need climbs to the top without Simeone noticing, or the images changing
@@andresantoniovalencia1257
Yeah, and there weren't duel disks nor cards back then, the monsters were real spirits.
@@Dexuz yeah, so?
@@andresantoniovalencia1257
You can't expect that Scales do that for the cards, as that would require for the duel disk to accept such maneuver and show it as a hologram.
Kaiba didn't even knew about the Scales, so why would he had programmed the duel disk to do such thing?
Would Yugi be able to switch sides to let Yami Marik and Yami Bakura be in control if he had all of the Millennium Items? Like would he able to switch between the Yami versions of himself, Marik and Bakura? If so then that would be interesting
Probably not Yami Marik. He doesn't come from the Rod, he's just an alternate personality Marik's brain developed on its own.
@@Shamazya Oh yeah that’s right
Atem has access to all these abilities from the get go he just didn't remember how to use them. The items shared his power with people. The onyl one he didn't use was the eye. Some examples are.
1. He used the scales to see the darkness in kaiba's heart.
2.Used the key to unlock kaiba's mind.
3. Used the ring to seal kaiba's,Marik and Bokura's darkness away.
4.He used the puzzle in practially every duel.
5. He used the staff when atem was dueling seto in the flashback (You can see Atem summon a monster from a stone without the staff)
6. He used the necklace to look into the past.
One thing you left out about the puzzle is the person who solves the puzzle gets to make one wish, Yugi wished for friends, and so the puzzle gave him Atem
the millenniums puzzle just gives you “draw skill”.
Everything makes so much sense now.
I think the central plot point of the series was to learn who Atem is and what is his purpose here. But it wasn't clear to us nor to the characters before Battle City - however we did get glimpses of that during the first meeting of Yugi and Atem (either during short Bakura Tabletop RPG Arc or in Duelist Kingdom during duel against him), where they realized they are not the same person but two different people.
This theory goes harder than it should. Poor little Yugi. Well thought out theory though!
I feel like this version of the series could lead into a sort of mind corruption where Yugi just thinks he can win every duel and goes from being closed off to becoming the ultimate series bad guy, using the power of every millenium item. His friends and adversaries realize how far off the deep end Yugi has gotten and try to challenge him in an ultimate tag duel at the end of the series.
Yugi succombs to the power he's accrued, forging a literal pyramid in the city for all to witness his mighty power. Everyone goes to see whats going on with the pyramid, each key character and their related friends arriving on each side.
Joey and Yugi's other friends come in on one side,
Kaiba and his brother come in from another,
Pegaus enters from yet another
and finally, Bakura from the last.
Each of them end up having to battle a test at the door perfectly crafted by the power of the millenium items to turn Yugis best cards into fierce duelists.
Joey has to fight Slifer,
Kaiba has to fight Dark Magician,
Pegaus has to fight Ra,
and Bakura has to fight Obelisk.
Eventually, through various traps they make it to the final chamber, where Yugi is almost fully corrupted but there's still a small sliver of the old Yugi remaining, but not for long as the darkness seeps over his body as each of the millenium items give off powerful shade.
The others know their only chance is to battle the overpowered Millenium Yugi together. An ultimate tag duel begins, with Joey, Kaiba, Pegasus, and Bekora against Millenium Yugi.
The duel means nothing however, as Millenium Yugi is still able to sweep, until something comes from within... against the Millenium Yugi's will, his hand moves on its own. The millenium puzzle shines as Millenium Yugi draws "Change of Heart", immediately playing it and casting it on HIMSELF. The rest of the crew is stunned as a light blasts from Millenium Yugi, and a brand new monster appears on their side of the field... Silent Swordsman.
Joey looks up, still in pain from losing the duel, as he utters... "Yugi...?" The crew has renewed confidence, still losing but each turn the Silent Swordsman is getting stronger and stronger, each time it grows it resembles Yugi a little more, his heart fighting on with his friends.
The final turn, Millenium Yugi has Slifer, Obelisk, Ra, and Dark Magician on the field, while the crew has Silent Swordsman (Yugi), Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon, Red Eyes Black Dragon, and whichever cards are important to Bakura and Pegasus (i admittedly haven't gotten crazy far into the show)
One by one, each of the crews monsters take down the egyption gods and dark magician, until they only have one monster left that can attack, and Millenium Yugi has no cards on the field. The crew takes one more look at each other, as they all bring their hands up in unison, and say together
"Silent Swordsman, attack Millenium Yugi directly!"
Yugi's soul, embodied by the swordsman, lunges back, raising its sword and releasing the final strike, causing a giant white flash. The crew looks stunned, as the camera shows each of the millenium items falling one by one, cracking as they hit the ground, ending with the millenium puzzle falling and breaking back into its pieces as Yugi's body falls onto its knees, and then onto the ground.
Joey runs over, picking up the defeated Yugi, as Yugi slowly and painfully opens his eyes. "did we... Did we win...?" but before Joey can answer, the pyramid rumbles. Pegasus informs them that the power of the millenium artifacts made the pyramid, so now that they've been effectively deactivated, its all falling apart. They panic, until the centerpiece of the Millenium puzzle slowly lifts. Coming out from around it, the spirit of the pharoh. He takes responsibility, apologizing to Yugi for using him, as the spirit of the pharoh takes up the millenium items to keep the pyramid alive for long enough that they can escape.
If I think of this like a video game, collecting them would unlock a new talent tree in the millennium puzzle where aspects of the other items get unlocked but not the full power, and probably has a cooldown timer on activating abilities. Think of it like unlocking a new room in the soul puzzle room thing that happened when shadi went into the puzzle.
That off script tangent around 11:00 was the funniest thing I've ever seen you do in your videos and I've been watching you since I was in highschool i think 😂 you gotta make more videos like that lol
*improv not tangent since what you were doing was obviously relevant to the video lol
I think it would be cool if there was a Archetype based on the Millennium Items with effects that are similar to the anime.
Millenium Puzzle: could have a drawing effect or be able to search a card and put it on top the Deck.
Millennium Eye: It could force the opponent to reveal there hand and maybe a once per turn discarding effect.
Millennium Rod: It would have a Monster stealing effect like Snatch Steal.
Millennium Ring: It would be able to search for the other Millennium monsters and Millennium Spell and Trap support and add them to your hand.
Millennium Necklace: It could Once per turn reveal the top 3 cards of your opponents Deck you can choose to send one of them to the Graveyard or make them shuffle there Deck.
Millennium Key: It could have an effect to search your opponents Deck or Graveyard and banish a card once per turn.
Millennium Scales: Maybe it could reveal Face down Spells and Traps on the Field.
Tell me what you think about my concept for this hypothetical Archetype.
The necklace should put cards on top of the opponent's deck instead and the scales need an actually useful effect, preferably giving the opponent a choice.
Idea :
Reveal 1 monster from your opponent's Extra Deck; your opponent can banish it and all cards with the same name from their Extra Deck face-down until the end of this turn. If they don't, apply the following effect :
During the End Phase, if your opponent didn't summon a monster with the same name as the revealed monster from their Extra Deck this turn : they must shuffle all cards they control into their deck also, for the rest of the Duel, they cannot summon monsters from the Extra Deck.
Basically you're asking "will you summon this card this turn ?". If they say no, they don't need it so it goes bye-bye for a turn. If they say yes and lie, they get wrecked.
The puzzle and the ring are searchers which make sense. I guess the puzzle would have extra effects if you're losing (like if your opponent has a big board or you got low LP).
The eye and rod can't be anything else tbh.
One small change I would make for the key is to banish all copies of the card. Banishing 1 is pretty useless, they gonna search it anyway.
@@dudono1744 I am impressed with the detail you put into the Millennium Scale effect because honestly it was the one I had the hardest time thinking of an Effect. Just a few minutes ago I thought of a similar idea for the Millennium Puzzle like Once per turn you can draw a card but if you have less Life Points than your opponent you can draw 2 cards instead.
@@leebulger7112 I have some experience in custom cards. Also you can be sure as hell that puzzle will get abused if it's a spell because it would be an extra upstart goblin.
@@dudono1744 I am imagining all of them to be monsters but perhaps we can add the users of the Millennium Items as monsters too and the items could be equipped like Union monsters giving them additional effects.
That’s a good concept
You may have missed one thing about the rod: the millenium rod can change the future, but showing the right move. Like it did for kaiba
The way Yugi could not get the Eye too early is a scenario where Bakura still takes the eye from Pegasus after Duelist Kingdom because Yugi doesn’t know he needs them yet then he ends up getting it in the later seasons where he duels Bakura but doesn’t get the Ring because the Bandit King is still trying to enact his plan. He gets the Ring in the end and it points him to the final duel site so he knows where to go to get to the afterlife. Yugi uses the Rod to force some people to become good and see the errors of their ways. The Necklace is used with the Puzzle for Yami to know which card he needs and draw it without looking. The Key is used to free Bakura from the Bandit king at the end by going into his mind room and dispelling his influence. The Scale is used to tell whether people are lying and when it reacts a certain way it means they don’t know or somebody else is controlling them. Yami doesn’t put the Eye in until the Waking the Dragons Arc so he can save Yugi, that’s why Timaeus is missing his eye, then when Yugi gets his soul back only the Pharaoh has the eye because their bodies weren’t being shared when Yami used it. Its also symbolic showing how far he would steep himself in darkness to save Yugi in the end. In the final duel Yami gets his own body and is adorned with every item so Yugi has to play 4D chess out of his mind to even stand a chance and Yami with all 7 items and 3 Egyptian gods. Yami doesn’t use the eye on Yugi because it doesn’t work since they shared a body and mind for so long he only sees his own thoughts of Yugi.
2 things:
1.) I think you should start a series where you do a "rewriting Yu-Gi-Oh" thing, maybe 30-60 minute videos each.
2.) I think in terms of the story, we didnt get to really see all the powers of each millennium item, but I think the writers kinda directed us towards a line of thought for the most powerful ones. Im pretty sure it was Puzzle < Rod < Eye < Ring < Key < Necklace < Scale.
But, they definitely all have like combat abilities/magic, like the rod was used to blast some yellow DBZ style blast at one point wasnt it? And pegasus ripped out souls with the eye
I would argue the Yugioh Duel Monsters run was about "Discovering the Mysteries of the Millennium Puzzle", which starts at learning about Yami Yugi, and ends with learning Yami Yugis name.
The rod can manipulate memory so it's usefull to make opponent forget what you play usually or forgetting you have used power in duel (so he won't tell anybody who can prepare a counter strategy)
I’m loving this “what if” series and have some prompts if you’re interested...
What if Kaiba didn’t rip up the fourth Blue Eyes, and gave it back to Yugi after losing to him in episode 1?
What if Yami Bakura didn’t allow Yugi to attack with Slifer at Battle City?
What if Marik was dragged to the virtual world during the Noah storyline?
What if Kaiba beat Yugi in battle city?
What if Yugi beat Raphael and kept the Seal of Oricalchos?
What if Kaiba or Joey dueled Atem in Yugi’s place, like they each wanted?
so I have a reason why he couldn't equip them all: its where each is placed
-so the Eye is fine as it doesn't have competition as is the Necklace for similar reason
-the Rod and Scales would be an issue as they are hand items so you couldn't hold both to duel
-the Puzzle and Ring are also an issue as they are chest level necklaces so would be a pain finding a consistent position to have them on without overlapping or getting in the way
-the Key is a sort of special case as it counts as a hand item but could be worn as a hip item but still the hand rule would apply as you still need a free hand to draw and play
so while Yugi would be unstoppable with every Millennium Item equip realisticly he would only be a powerful set by only being able to equip 4 out of 7 in any/all duels
In this hypothetical, what if Yami is able to use the puzzle to store losers souls. In the Yugioh movie there were mummies inside the puzzle 😮
If you think about it, ZEXAL made a big thing about Shining Draw, but “the power to generate the very card you’ll draw” was actually coined by the Pharaoh way back in the original series 🤯
The power to top deck anything you want and get out of a situation victoriously is unbelievably OP
Atem straight out of the gate knowing what he needs to get his memories back is just Zexal 😂
The eye- the puzzle- and the necklace are a dangerous combo. both inside and out side dueling you're pretty much set for life. you can read minds, see the future and be incredibly lucky. you have a cheat code for the best life possible.
It’s interesting you mention the Millennium Eye being the end game, but forget about Aknadin being a huge threat in the manga Millennium World arc
Bakura had the mummy of Aknadin play in the Dark RPG and his memories contributed toward the game too
Wouldn’t the central plot for the first Yugioh series being Yami learning his real name? Also would Yami even want to use use the millennium eye since he would consider it cheating and going against his principles
In the original series beginning- rescuing his grandfather seems to be a prominent theme in Duelist Kingdom.
Millennium ring effect: points to the best card on your field or in your hand to use that turn. Points to the card that gives you the most trouble on your opponent's side of.
Millennium rod effect: can grant the user a special quip card of itself that can control an opponent's monster(s)
Millennium key: unlock the duelist true potential or seal opponents potential.
Unlock normal monsters into affect monsters
Millennium scale: gauges the skill level over both you and your opponent
I think if Yugi got the Millennium Items the series would adjust to creating situations to use them and creating ways to subvert or foil their powers.
For instance, maybe Yugi gets the Scales early on. Maybe when Marik controls a person it can't read them properly, like it mistargets the wrong person.
You could have the mind shuffle flipped back on Yugi by having someone collaborate with the Rod holder.
Also I could see Yugi being forced to use the Rod by being put in more physical danger where controlling guards or something might be more useful. You could even present a game-like scenario where you have to plan out who to control and for what purpose to escape or free someone.
Like when Tristan invades Pegasus's castle to rescue Mokuba.
The Necklace presents a lot of challenge. We know it can fail but how do you balance making it useful and making it not OP.
The Key could maybe act as a memory scrambler, so while you may see the future you can never remember it when fighting the Key holder.
I'd also like to point out that the millennium puzzle granted Yuki's wish for friendship as it was pointed out. But Cora's evil spirit wanted the power. And they had to give up what the millennium puzzle granted, which was friendship. It was just gonna slaughter yugi's friends.
The Millennium Key seems like it could allow you to enter someone's mind palace, steal their treasure, and make them have a change of heart.
Or just beat them without playing a duel by just lobotomising them
Might be more effective since you won't have to enter any ridiculous palaces
3:15 you missed the entire point of the show obviously from the end of season 1 onward it was to get the Pharaohs name and his memories this is why he participated in Battle City and it’s why Bobasa gave Yugi the cartouche
I've always wanted to see an artwork of Yugi decked out in all seven and surprised ive never been able to find it even in fanart.
The Millennium Rod is easily the most useful for a duelist. The amount of spectator attention on your hands during duels makes clean finger nails a must.
Yugi used the necklace before facing seto in battle city, it showed him the duel he would have with Joey that we dont see
I dunno why, but a YGO RPG could be a cool idea. If the puzzle is a neutral piece and the other 6 are split down the middle between good and evil, maybe you get to choose an item each duel and depending on how many good/neutral/evil items you used, you'd build a rep and general level could let you bring more items. Just a random thought as you described how all the items could be used in a single duel.
loving the what if videos so much, thank you