Radio Host Realized He Is Talking To a Serial Killer
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2023
- This is a story of Storyville slayer, who was on the loose in New Orleans for almost 5 years. After the investigators spent weeks building a task force, months getting testimonies, and years of evidence, they ended up arresting the wrong person. It was only when this suspected slayer bragged on the infamous Howard Stern show that he got locked away for good, but you know what! many investigators believed that the real slayer is still out there. That’s a whole lot to take in, which is why in this video, we’re taking you through the cold case of Russell Ellwood and how he became the closest thing to being the notorious Storyville Slayer.
The killer was more stunned by talking to Howard than Howard was by talking to him... Wow.
Howard's from a generation where calls like this to late night talks shows was common and basically always hoaxes. Because of the nature of it... he's digging hoping this guy will either break the hoax or spill enough for law enforcement to use if it turns out he's genuine. That and probably morbid curiosity... after all, Howard's a pretty fucked up dude.
it's also why his co-host isn't too disturbed by it.
@@adreiiaii510 I'm not really familiar with the show or Howard,I didn't know this 😳 and reading through the comments, the opinions on Howard himself are split between "i love this guy" and "this guy's weird". Going into this without any context was wild, to be honest
@@eatrawskinhe’s one of those guys with those public opinions like this, most respectable people like him
He learned about his yennis
@@eatrawskin of course Howard would try to not antagonise the caller in order to gather more information in the case that he is the real deal
Impressive how Howard will interrupt even a serial killer
Why not? The guy kills prostitutes, probably hits them with a hammer when they aren't looking. He was an opportunist.
Did Howard ask him about his penis?
Not impressive - just next level narcissistic.
😂
That's Howard Stern. If he had more time, he'd be asking him deep personal questions and make the literal serial killer uncomfortable, lol
"I've got no tattoos, I wouldn't do that to myself." Oh... I'm glad he drew the line somewhere...... lmfao
right? LMAO killing over a dozen innocent women? acceptable
tattoos? BLASPHEMY
Holy fk, I was reading this comment right when they said it, literally not kidding. Too damn funny :D
You have tattoos dont you?
😂😂 honestly the stuff that psychopaths actually care about is insane compared to things they do and don't care about, like they could disembowel someone and play with it but yet they are so worried If they see a scratch on the floor...mind-blowing Man
@@stefangabaroi7639 probably yes since she looks like a goth in the profile pic
Very impressive on part of both hosts. When I was in psychiatry, I would interview a lot of guys kind of like this, though not as bad. The fact that Howard got him to laugh and relax is absolutely masterful. The fact that the guy was not exaggerating, not emotionally charged, indicates it's likely the real deal. Howard quickly switched on the investigator mode. I guarantee you he was on high alert, but through his years of experience in these conversations he did something most people cannot.
I don't have the education or training that you do, but was impressed how both hosts could stay so calm throughout the convo, as it became more obvious that it was real. They probably didn't believe the guy at first, but so many details in must have started to wonder 😳
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I'm sure he kmows and has interviewed plenty of deranged people
@@AmandaabnamALol yeah, most of the HSS was him talking to deranged people. That’s why it was so great
Howard Stern was terrible in this... making assumptions and interrupting
It is pretty impressive that he got this guy to describe himself sporadically throughout this interview. Not fat, not typically good-looking, no tattoos, describe his hunting grounds, parents still together, one parent is a church-goer.
Yea..like a serial killer would be honest about that anyways
I can see one telling the truth about all that.. if they thought they'd never get caught because of the interview. Like the Zodiac killer.. he liked taunting the police and leaving clues. This guy knows the police investigated some of his kills... To talk about that with someone, publicly, believing he wouldn't get caught... He loved retelling those events with others. He had to feel invincible and so much more powerful after this radio talk.
@@istartedajoke1704 That's how they caught the BTK killer.
@KaylaVaughn07 you got a point but who knows . Who else thinks that the dude in the picture kind of goes with his voice as well? Lol I do
💯@@istartedajoke1704
Lol Howard telling him he might as well just off himself is hilarious. Can't say I disagree but the way he said it so upfront 😭
Well, if you can’t convince him to turn himself in to the authorities, it makes for a solid “Plan B!” 😂
Classic Howard, BTW, and that’s why I was hooked on the show when I used to have a long drive to work! On a scale of 0 through 10, the entertainment value is at least an 11!
the end where he was like "Well, I wish you would die"
As crazy as the left has become today he could never get away with saying that today. It’s really sad.
I think when he first started saying one of you off yourself it was kind of like Howard feeling like you needed to throw something in there critical of all the murders otherwise the collar if he really was the serial killer might think he's being disingenuous. Running sound a little confused when he said it but at the very end when he's like yeah well I hope you die. I think he even knew the call was wrapping up and and he didn't have to worry about trying to keep the guy on the phone talking any longer so he knows through a real live a fu in. I said the first time he mentioned the guy offering himself it seemed like he wasn't trying to be too insulting if that's possible but more like I If you got a mind like this guy killing people that should probably be bumping around in your head too if you've killed a dozen people that maybe you should just kill yourself. And again I think you probably won't even have done that if he hadn't been talking to the guy so long and literally not said anything negative about the murders.
@@stardmgi died laughing at that shit 😂😂 fool really said welp it’s been nice talking i hope you 🤷♂️😂😂
“If my kid killed something cute I would probably just be like ‘well this is it..’ “ 😂😂 that has to be the funniest thing he said, I’m sorry
Thats wild ngl
Kiss me with your mouth
What's even crazier, is Howards co-host laughing and saying "kill them haha", in response to his comment. 😅 I mean I know she was riffing and probably just blurted something out nervously in an attempt to bolster Howard, but like, damn girl lol. 😂
I love how Howard does his best to pull details out of the guy, asking long lines of nonsense and flattering questions only to end with something revealing such as "Do you have many tattoos?" "Do you hang out in that place very often?" That's an excellent means of getting details that can lead to his arrest
The guy is so polite even as Howard does a good job trying to get a rise out of him, no wonder he wasn't caught, who would think he is a psychopath?
Howard was smart, he not only got clues for the police, he kept his caller thinking Howard was still doing his show, brilliantly done. I hope the cops were listening.
He talks to much . Let the guy talk . He kept cutting him off . No , he wasn’t
@@kathyr.8135 thats the point, pissing someone off or annoying them usually makes them go on rants
Did that big nose mop on a broomstick apologize to all of the people that refused to get the clot shot? 😂😂😂
@@trent3872 Trump has not apologized 😂😂😂
@@paulcooper8818he never will and he will never surrender
His answers are so quick, confident, and never strays away from what inevitably became the facts
Very unsettling.
@upstate315er2 and what facts were these? And what proof is there that the caller is actually the murderer?
And you can tell he's remembering because of the micro-pause before some of the answers - not long enough to make something up, but long enough to remember something in the past.
@@cosmicmuffin322 I'd say the exact opposite. He seems like he's trying to impress Howard Stern. He was clearly awed to even be speaking directly to Stern.
@@ajolleyduck2933it’s really cool
“You’re not a serial killer?”
“No, I never said my name was Ed” 😭😭
I know it’s been said before, but it’s pretty scary how some guy sitting next to you in a restaurant or passing you on the sidewalk could be someone evil like this.
I remember getting creepy vibes from some people at times through the years and making a decision to avoid them. Sometimes I wonder if they were this type of person.
Its not that strange, all men can do this. Look at the history of mankind for the past thousands years, pillaging, slaughter, rape, destruction was the norm. Doesnt matter if it was the Romans, Mongols, Vikings, Germanic tribes etc.
It's only been very recently that humans became "civilized". But that ability is still programmed into the DNA of every man and it can always come out.
If you've ever taken a long drive somewhere, there is a good-to-fair chance you've unknowingly passed by some depraved serial killer who likely won't ever be caught
The people you deemed "creepy" without knowing them at all probably though YOU were that kind of a person.
@@purplewine7362no, that’s not how that works. The human brain is really good at picking up on small, almost imperceptible details in another’s behavior that indicates underlying issues with that person. If you’ve ever talked to, say, a woman or child who described how some guy felt “off”, that person was likely right. Did the creepy guy think that the woman or child was also creepy because they thought that of him? It would be highly illogical to assume so
@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro do you have any research paper or medical article to support this? I don't take vibes based arguments. "likely right" lmfao
This is almost like an interrogation before they even know who the killer is, they do a great job making him comfortable and disclosing information
It’s brilliant. Reminds me of something…sadly this can’t be used in court, can it? Maybe it can actually since it was between civilians. Bro literally just called because he wanted to expose himself. Everyone needs someone to talk to…generally it isn’t the Howard Stern Show that is the outlet though…
Stern could be an interrogator.
I felt like Robin was asking the better questions and was more focused and was conducting an investigation.
@@dingoledingus9039 And a sociopath. The lack of emotion and funny banter is weird.
I'm not sure if this would be admissible as evidence in court, but I don't see why it wouldn't be if they can match the voices or trace the call. Even if Howard was only doing it for his show's ratings, he still did the right thing by getting the guy to keep talking. If it's real, it's that much more info out there in the public to help find the guy.
I know we're all impressed with how Howard handled this, but "Clay" was so casual about the whole thing. It's horrifying to imagine people like this walking among us.
That name sounds familiar. Sounds too familiar in fact, it reminds me of a certain groomer.
I know he probably has little to no remorse by his tone of voice and the fact that feeling "powerful" and quelling boredom is more important to him than human life. But what I really wished they asked him is:
1. Does he understand what he's doing is wrong?
2. How would he feel if someone killed him in the same way he killed those women?
And 3. Why does he not choose to do literally anything else to cure his boredom or make himself feel powerful?... I mean there are so many things in this life that can fit that description... Even if it turns into narcissism at least he isn't killing anyone.
@@ebenserfontein8145 1. he understand that its wrong from your perspective, but cares for it as much as you would care if i said what temperature of pool water i prefer. its not wrong from his perspective and its all that matters, 2. he wouldnt, 3. what else would give him that high, what else would top it? getting into politics maybe.
his whole phone call was narcissistic, hes already there.
among us
@@markot3861 Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how you can appeal to someone to do the right thing when their emotions aren't compelling them to do so anymore. Be that because of psychopathy or mental dissonance, it doesn't matter. He knows what he is doing wrong but he doesn't really feel any guilt or remorse, so it isn't a big deal to him when he commits the crimes. It's probably on the same level for him as beating someone in sports or a video game, that sense of power I mean. So maybe just do that?
This is fascinating, (and horrible, of course), but the hosts handled this so well and kept him talking for as long as possible. I'm surprised that I've never heard about this before today.
People who haven’t grown up watching and listening to Howard and Robin have missed on so much!
Howard Stern spends most of his free time in a hooded robe, offering up sacrifices to an owl effigy. Not surprising this random pshyco with no resources or influence doesn't phase him much.
Impressed Robin and Howard were getting info and keeping him on the call. They actually gathered a huge amount of info. He kept his cool thru the entire call many would have not been able to have kept it together.
howard was actually really good at building and maintaining rapport while slipping in little questions here and there that would unquestionably help in identifying the guy.
And yet the guy was never identified. Ellwood was already in jail during this show, so there was no way he could have called in for that long. Not only that, but he was in Ohio during the murders "Clay" mentioned and the murders that Ellwood committed were not bludgeoning with a hammer. The police said that the murders were probably committed by multiple people. If that's so, then Ellwood committed some murders but not the ones mentioned by Clay.
thats how detectives talk to them like they are a friend it lets their guard down and they think you are enjoying talking about their violent murders and they offer up information much easier just like a couple guys having a conversation shootin the shit
Didn’t do much help. And you’re assuming the guy is even telling the truth… lol
@@joshcantrell8397 He probably telling the truth because of the nature that these people have. They want to brag about things, to feel in control and invincible to the point they're comfortable that they'll never get caught.
puffff are you deaf??? howard only babling away listening to his own voice and kept intrupting the guy every two mins
Kudos to Howard and the co-host for continuing the interview, getting his voice recorded, speech patterns, "baba booey", getting info out of him that establishes a timeline of his first kill, car breakdown, his approximate age, marital status, his parents marital status, number of kids, lack of tattoos, the implication that he isn't black, his body type, and the Jimmy Swaggart Town "area around here" comment which could help find a location, all of which can help link an eventual suspect.
Baba Booey wasn't a random thing the guy said.... Howard had an employee, Gary Dell'Abate, who went by the nickname "Baba Booey." But yes, Howard was fishing as subtly as he could.
Audience realizes Howard has been irreverent for years.
Unfortunately the serial killer is still out there 😞
@@LuckyHandle - Proof, or you are full of it!
No doubt. Howard did a good thing in a smooth way here.
Wasn't expecting to watch this for the full 27 mins. Great format, great narration. Great video.
They HAVE to have found this guy. There is no way he gave all that away and they didnt find someone like that.
No chance. If someone is absolutely smart about it they will get away and stay away.
People who kill for the thrill of feeling like a slave master, arent clever. @@CaptToilet
Its Now Orleans, they don't get anything done down there. Notoriously corrupt. Hookers arent at the top of the list for them either
@@CaptToilethow much effort law enforcement puts in to catching the killer largely depends upon the societal status of the victims. So yeah, someone who kills prostitutes and is relatively smart can probably get away with it for a while
They haven’t caught him yet.
howard stern is the only man with the balls to tell a serial killer (who could be anywhere) to take their own life
I dont think its insulting what he said. Many serial killers kill themselfes afterwards (often in the jail) because they just dont want to rot there.
I can tell you where the serial killer can’t be - inside his studio, to the parties Howard goes, and inside Howard’s gated community. And even if he somehow managed that, he’d have to take care of the armed private security first.
So no. No balls are needed if you have a net worth of $600-$800 MILLION dollars, like Howard does. Then you can be exactly how cocky you want to be. It’s not like he’s going to catch him in a Walmart.
it was a joke bro @@RobertA-ej4tz
@@marekbainbridge2009 Hahaha… Really? I missed the joke. But disregard my previous message in that case 😉😂
uhhh okay@@RobertA-ej4tz
When I served with a Marine infantry battalion in Iraq, there were 0311's who said the only reason they were in Iraq was to kill people, and they enjoyed it. There were some infantrymen that we swore would be serial killers if they were not killing people for Uncle Sam
@@millcity2505 Of phucking course I was a POG, but I still got my Combat V though. You dont even know how to spell POG, but you chirping off. You probably a COD warrior. Not brave enough to fight, but brave enough to talk ish on a computer.....hahahahaha, go find the BFA for my 9mm chump
@@millcity2505
Persons Other than Grunts (POG) get it right boot
@@millcity2505😂
There are loads of military personnel that go just for the killing. It's pretty standard around the world man. Legalised murder. At least they are doing it for your team or whatever..
I dont have a problem with that. Enjoy just keep that shit over there
This guy is slightly breathless when he gets to the point of talking about the black police officer, and sniggering, Sounds like he's likely walking outfoors while talking at that point?
Or possibly doing ahem something else while talking and exposing himself about his crimes.
As a massage therapist for two decades, we were taught and learned from experience how to notice someone masturbating on the phone while they're trying to make an illegitimate appointment. The language, slightly hesitant/delayed answers, slightly breathless speech.
(That only happened for me two or three times, and I inform them I don't provide the type of service they're looking for, just hung up on them, recorded their number then blocked it basically. And was grateful to my teachers for teaching me to listen almost microscopically for those things!)
I totally agree with you and noticed it immediately too. I worked at a crisis line for 8 years and you just know. He totally sounds like he's busy.
He MIGHT be gay
@@GoldenBred Yup, this is what a set of religious parents does can do to a normal kid (not this guy tho, he killed before puberty even), that is, like everyone else, unique to themselves and the parents likely would shame/disown ya (especially around this era when this call would've happened)
Shame is the ultimate tool for any belief system of a higher power.
I used to be a phone sex worker & we used to call guys like that “jacks” because they’re doing their thing trying to get off before we collected payment info.
@@GoldenBred didn't i reply to this comment? i can't see it and the new comment brought me back but can't see it even, says 4 replies, will be 5 now, wonder why, i don't think i said anything crazy?
He's talking about the comic book Spawn #5 where a serial killer uses his victims fingers on a "painting"
Billy The Ice Cream Man.
I'm not a big Howard fan but I'll admit he did a great job interviewing this guy. He kept his tone very even & didn't try to shame him(which would probably shut the killer down). He talked to him like 2 guys in a bar talking about fishing. I wish Robin would've stayed quiet though. Howard should invite more killers to call in. There are about 2,000 active serial killers in just the US today. Maybe Howard could help catch a few of them.
What are you talking about ir what were you listening to? He didnt talk to him like two guys at a bar he was trolling him the entire time, saud hed wish he "passed away" a few times, and some other stuff. You need to listen closely when you watch videos.
Theres no proof this was a serial killer unfortunately
I'm over that list of the 2000 serial killers. I don't know man that sounds a little bit hard to quantify. And I'm sure it was the profilers from the FBI and all that the people who would be best that in the world but still to figure out a number? I'm sure there's quite a few serial killers that mix things up and don't always use a standard operating procedure and none of their murders have been either found at all or identified as being the victim of a SK. And that nice round number of 2,000 makes it sound like somebody that was one of the people that came up with this number just said screw it let's just call it 2000 that sounds in the ballpark. I think it would be more convincing to say something like 1954 of them. Try to make it sound like some actual thought 12 the process. I'm sure whatever the real actual number though is not going to be one that is going to be of any comfort to anyone. And I have no idea what that number would be in whoever came up with the 2000m sure has a much better idea than I do but I got to believe that's a kind of a vague number certainly better than one I could come up with for sure. I wouldn't be surprised it's quite a few more or quite a few less. If I had to bet though I've been on it being more. And that's true for whether or not you like stirring he is a brilliant guy he did very well they're pulling information out of that guy
If a killer is being invited on to be “caught” I don’t think they will take part lmfao
@@IreZico they will end up being caught anyways they know that themselves.
2000 serial killers in the US is not a believable stat. Do you know how many we have in the UK today? Zero.
"You haven't killed any prostitutes?"
"No, I never said my name was Ed."
This is such a crazy line 😭
"Ed" is a talking horse. That's crazy. But as crazy as that sounds, wait till you hear his theme song: "Owe...a hearse is a hearse, and cursed at first, and no one alive should even strive to be in a hearse that's cursed, that's worst, unless you're first and still you're cursed to die at the hands of the famous Mr. Ed!! (SCRATCH) I meant famous Mr. Ted (Bundy)!!"
What does that have to do with anything at all?@@jasonbrown372
Omg! I can’t imagen getting that call! Robin was so smart with her questions. Whenever Howard insulted him I was so scared it would cause the caller to hang up.
Its scary to think that the most despicable things we can imagine, or see in movies or crime shows etc are nothing compared to what happens in our home towns every day.
Real life is the scariest horror of all.
@@Balonious_Crunk 💯
Everyday might be a bit of a stretch…but I get what you’re saying. Maybe no more cnn/fox etc for a month though 😂
@seanhouston7755 well if talking about just serial killers no not everyday, but sex/human trafficking, muder, torture, kidnapping, molestation, rape and so on, I mean shit there's sooo many videos of just pedophiles getting interrogated and caught on CZcams, and that alone is definitely everyday and extremely disturbing.
@@OGdirty1Kanobi I think you are being a little bit sensationalist. I agree with the commenter you may need a break from news broadcasts and crime videos
The most scary part is how the police is just looking for someone to blame it on regardless on if they did it or not
There it is. The most accurate comment on here.
Imagine how often it happens and how often they get the conviction
What did you think the JOB of a cop is? Let me help you: the ONLY job of a cop is to FIND (or create) a CRIME for the prosecutor to convict. round & round & round. They lie. They don't care if convicted are actually guilty of anything. Welcome to the modern world.
@@socore4659 You don't have to imagine, there are numbers on it.
@@nickacelvn not in Portugal...
I remember listening to this. He took the call like the caller was bullshitting so he went along with it. As the call went on, he started to believe him, and so did a lot of listeners, me included.
I felt the same!
Initially I thought he was lying to get Robin shocked.
The longer Clay talked, the more I believed him.
This was terrifying.
He says he killed one of them because his car broke down. That is insane.
@@ganymeade5151 no he didn't, he said he stopped killing people when his car broke down.
I still think it's bullshit and Stern went with it purely for ratings. Name a single shred of proof this is real. If he's killed so many women, he could have named ONE, or even a location.
Why couldn't the police compare his voice with their prime suspects? Doesn't anyone have a recording of Russell Elwood's voice?
This is actually not the only serial killer who did something like this.
Rodney Alcala,and infamous serial killer in the 70’s,became known as the Dating Game Killer because in 1974(when he was already well into his murder spree)he went on the Tv show the Dating Game to try and get his next victim,and won,the girl he won the heart of literally refused to go out with him because of how creepy he was,and that saved her life because less than 1 weeks later after that he killed another girl.it’s also worth noting that he photographed ALL of the women he killed…there are over 2,000 photos in his collection.
And many years into listening to this interview for the first time, here it is, I found it again. Howard was Howard, as good as he always is, but Robin asked the smartest questions.
This is one of the best things Howard has done, dude knew how to handle this situation.
During 9/11 Howard was broadcasting and his coverage was excellent in the early hours of the attack. He went straight serious, no joking and tried to get information out from people in the city calling the show.
@@ryanhampson673 Yeah I hate how Howard ended up being a weirdo and jerk… his earlier days were gold.
Talked a jumper
When I was a "phone actress" I had a client describe to me in very vivid detail what he wanted to do to his step daughter. I could actually hear a child in the background. I came up with some bullshit reason, like a bathroom break, and put him on hold.
While he was on hold I got my supervisor on the line. I explained to her the situation and told her we needed to call the police to investigate because a child was in iminent danger. I didn't have any of his personal info, because that wasn't the way it worked, but she, or someone on her side, had all his credit card info and stuff.
I'm 100% sure that someone in the office could have done something to get law enforcement out there to check on the kid. Maybe I'm extra sensitive to that kind of thing because I was abused as a kid, but, when my supervisor told me that it was none of our business, and she wasn't going to get law enforcement involved, I quit. Right then. She told me I could take a lunch break and think about it, but I told her, I was done. Guess I just wasn't cut out for the business.
Anyone who can harm a child is insane and needs put down.
you should have filed a police report after you quit, maybe the supervisor might be less inclined to brush it off once they have the cops to deal with.
@@zafar0132 I honestly didn't believe that I had enough information to be taken seriously. (Also, law enforcement has had a well-earned reputation of being hostile or dismissive of sex workers in the past.)
I didn't know where this guy was or what his real name was or anything like that.
All of that stuff was handled at the office and they would just transfer the call to me when the client was ready to talk to someone.
I felt so powerless.
You did a great job. That's terrible and terrifying.
Imagine hearing this and your only reaction is to go "that's not my problem."
The genius of Stern is this is he didn't change his behaviour. He still instulted the guy and kept his persona. I think normally the killer would be angry if someone talked to him like that but he was obviously a fan of Stern so he probably felt more powerful that he was being treated like a famous person who is being interviewed. Pretty crazy.
You ppl II
Can we appreciate how professionally Howard handled the situation though?
I was born and raised in New Orleans. My mom wasn't the most discerning parent when it came to inappropriate content. Her thought process was if she had to get up early and drive me to school, she was going to listen to the Howard Stern Show while doing it and simply hope that I didn't turn out a complete degenerate in the process. Imagine how surreal it was being a 4th grader getting dropped off at school halfway through the above segment. As soon as I got into the classroom, I told everyone, "There's a serial killer on the loose in New Orleans! He's on the Howard Stern Show right now bragging about it!"
My mom got called to arrange a parent-teacher meeting that night. She just laughed and said sure and then didn't show up for it. Apparently, you can do that and the teacher will just have to keep teaching your kid.
Your mother had no filter whatsoever.
Sorry.
@@daniellewatson8352 I appreciate your condolences but I was also fortunate enough to have some genuinely good role models growing up, like my grandfather. He really helped to balance her out.
@@CERTAIND00M
Understand darl. My maternal grandfather was a beautiful man whom showed me unconditional love. I cannot say the same about my mother.🕊
You sound like a great story teller. I bet you can hold a room captivated without having to be the center of attention.
@@mxtb1888 You sound like someone who would say 'atm machine'
This has likely been mentioned already, but I'm about 99% positive the comic he's talking about with the severed fingers was Spawn issue #5, a serial killer named Billy Kincaid would lure kids into his icecream truck, then after killing them would glue their severed fingers to a canvas making a 'Finger Painting'.
Ah you beat me to it I just commented the same exact thing.
I did a cursory scroll but didn’t see this until after I posted.
I wonder, if you’re a comic book fan did you also take note of his Batman obsession?
He said he doesn’t want to kill himself because he would miss the next Batman movie.
Maybe part of his m.o. is he thinks he’s cleaning the streets.
He also described himself as intimidating. 🤔
@@chasedwards9626 I knew it was Batman. He keeps killing so he can see his next movie. What a narcissist. He cant handle the fact that he is just like the Joker deep down. Mans got daddy issues. 😂
hardcore :D
Bro I literally just watched this episode of Spawn last night, No lie
Or something a little less ominous: "The Silencer", the villainous character known as Quietus has the ability to create lethal weapons from thumbprints. Quietus collects the thumbprints of his victims and then uses them to create deadly objects. From the DC Comics series "The New Age of Heroes."
I love how Howard pushes through to sound calm so the guy will keep talking
This is too sick . I won’t allow such evil to my ears. He’s a monster and HOWARD is creepy.
@mjrotondi5086 good thing your not of any importance such as a detective or someone with brains that would do exactly what he did. All that was extremely important information that could've taken years to arrive to.
@@mjrotondi5086If howard kicked him off they would’ve ever known about this serial killer, you can close your ears but it won’t help the victims.
I am very impressed with the research it mustve taken to make this video good job man
Howard and the co-host did a great job. They came up with a lot of good questions quickly. Scary just how matter-of-fact and emotionally detached that guy was.
Robin Ophelia Quivers is her name.
sounds like Chris Elliott
Do you mean Robyn? ...
The co host lol. Delete this comment save yourself the embarrassment
this comment is definitely more embarrassing than theirs lmao "dElEtE tHiS coMmEnT" @@michaelm3505
I love how you can hear Howard asking for lots of details that law enforcement would want to know.
The guy definitely had tattoos...
I'm having a hard time understanding how given a lot of the information here AND HIS VOICE that they aren't able to find out who it is. Is he such a loner he has no friends or family who would recognize his voice? Did the police not put it out on the news, asking if anyone recognized the voice?
And just from hearing his voice, without even knowing this person, you can already tell a lot about them. He's white. Or at least not black (which is why he also laughed about that black cop getting looked at as a suspect). But he sounds white (yes, you can tell a person's race by their voice). He's not obese. Or else he would be wheezing as he talked. And that's not even including the other clues he himself gave, such as his general age. He sounds 30s to 50s (which would match with the fact that he's got kids, though going by the math, he was supposed to be only 22 at the time of this call). Average to tall height (the shorter you are, the higher pitch/more nasal your voice tends to be). I'm going to guess 5'10 to 6'0.
Then there's the clues given by what he said. He's a huge Batman fan. Probably had Batman memorabilia and comic books.
Did they ever compare this audio to other known audios of Ellwood to confirm it's his voice?
All this information and they couldn't find this guy? Yet the government tracks every move we make on a daily basis.
I mean. To put in perspective, the NSA collects data on everyone under the premise of preventing terrorism and threats to national security.
But, they haven’t caught a single person. The only times crimes have been prevented are from ‘boots on the ground’ investigative efforts. So despite all the data collection, it seems so far it’d been totally worthless.
A potential reason for this is that information needs context. If you can’t connect the dots and give information a narrative frame, it’s just a bullet point or a list of information that tells you nothing. Like reading ingredients for food but not knowing what food it is. As a result, the slow process of piecing things together is still going to be better, and if that doesn’t work you’re up a creek.
@@aewtxYou cannot tell a race of someone by their voice and you cannot tell the height by their voice pitch, this comme t is ridiculous
Okay, but Howard did perfect in "interrogating" the dude. Having him feel comfortable about talking about it, almost as if he's impressing them with his acts.
People paint this guy as a typical psychopath, and Howard constantly brings up being 'full of hate' but that just isn't the impression I get from the guy. He doesn't even know why he does it, and he admits to not really even being sure if he feels gratification or not. He doesn't have a lot of conviction, and he even mentions being empathetic of one and letting her go.
Now, maybe I'm projecting here but during this I've weirdly found this guy relatable in a large sense. As noted, he takes a lot from what he reads in book and other fictional media, in fact his joke about missing batman makes it clear that he does value entertainment a lot. He's not a fan of tattoos, and his substance use is so minimal and gives off the impression of just trying it entirely for himself- meaning not really drinking because he cares about social conforming for example. The part where he gets called lame for his inexperience and he just doesn't really have much to say, it really convinces me of him being this same 'loser' type of nerd.
I make the assumption that he's the type who has spent a lot of his life living inside his own head, this is why he enjoys fiction so much. A huge detail is also the fact that he has only tried Acid. Psychedelic drugs are pretty much the only type of drugs that these type of people would have any interest in; as the idea of heightening your inner fantasy, experiencing your exotic inner world blending with reality is appealing.
During the segments about race, it makes it clear he's not exactly racist, but he isn't necessarily against racism per say. When the fact that most of his victims were black was brought up, he kind of tried to make it clear that was because of the environment, he didn't really seek out any specific races. At the same time, he found humor in the idea of the black officer being suspected, and he's also seemingly a fan of The Howard Show. It gives off the impression that he really is just on the middle bridge of it all. He's not actively for or against anything, so without having any moral guard rails he's subject to having a bit of edge at times.
And this all goes back to the killing. In which I can imagine his biggest cause for it all, is that he's morally apathetic, which means there's nothing stopping him from committing this kind of murder, except circumstance. He makes it clear that circumstance did get in his way, mentioning that he was on this break because his car broke down. Anyone who feels more convicted in needing to carry out some sort of personal 'mission' going through a murder, would not just stop simply because of a minor inconvenience like that. He murdered because the chances were given to him, once it became more of a reach he just didn't really bother.
I think in his search for reasoning why he killed, he was also searching for any reason to do it again. To kind of find motivation to start doing it again; or to see if his inner desire is to actively stay away from that kind of thing, making sure to never pick it up again. He says he has a few kids, which means he's probably middleaged in this recording. A notorious time period where people are really lost in their lives. And him in particular, I believe due to not caring about it morally, he had nothing stopping him from trying out murdering to see if he'd really feel something meaningful in his life. Prostitutes were easy to kill, and he also didn't really emphasize with any of their type. The seductive body-confident unintelligent Prostitute Archetype that lives their life around sex. It's not really an archetype that you can feel for. What's notable is that he mentions letting one of them go, because of her innocence, seeming new and all. It reminded him of his Ex. He could kill all the others because he couldn't bring himself to care about them in the slightest, which is why a type of person he can find a bit of care into (a bit of personal appeal to him) he can't go through with it.
Again this is all most likely heavy projection excused as analysis. Now I'm diagnosed with SZPD, and I'm not exactly trying to say this guy has it too. But throughout the full recording of this conversation, I felt like this was a very easy thing to see many people go through; Like the average introvert on the internet I guess. Living a life full of apathy, getting to a point in your life where you essentially get so bored that you try things as depicted elsewhere. Most people hear stories and read in fiction all about how murder is carried out, and then they think "Huh, what would I do if I were to be a killer like this?" but most people also have a sort of barrier that ever prevents them from doing that at any point in their lives. I can see this Clay dude as simply just not having that barrier from stopping him, and he ends up trying it out like he would try a drug, or some other experience to really try and add some substance to his life. I don't really think moral apathy at least is the most uncommon in the type of nerds that browse on the internet. At the very least, to me this guy felt pretty human and relatable.
This whole post probably sounds dumb, I'm just rambling my incoherent thoughts late at night. I guess the whole point that got me feeling the need to share my thoughts was seeing how people treated this guy in the comments, as some blood thirsty killer. Just my thoughts on why that isn't the case I suppose.
It wasn't dumb at all. Thank you for the insight.
being able to detatch from morality is something only psychopaths are good at doing reliably. So people treating him as a manifestation of an enemy is exatly this moral mechanism working as it should which doesn't work so predictably in the mind of a psycho. From the view of a psycho it would seem like they are one of the very few normal people without this weird morality fetish.
Got to love how Howard is very cleverly trying to get information out of “Clay” like appearance, location, vehicle, personal history, methods, family, work place etc. by stroking the ego and sounding disapproving to goad “Clay” into revealing more.
Ar the same time his co-host is asking stupid questions that could destroy the momentum of this interrogation.
Real or not, it was a good insight into how to do that kind of thing.
No The stupid questions are actually good between "serious" ones those might make him feel More relaxed and like they are just casually chatting.. thats why police also ask irrelevant questions in interregations
^ I agree, it made it sound like he was just calling into the show as another wacky guest, which I’m sure helped to keep him calm. They both kept it super light on purpose.
@@BunnyQueen97 yep
Howard did a great job with this guy. Howard would probably make a good police interrogator.
ikr , the guy was literally asking him if he has tattoos
Glad I'm not the only one to hear this radio segment and see that Howard and his co-host essentially saw the opportunity to conduct an evidential interview with a serial killer and certainly did not pass on that. The questions they ask are so direct, and yet establish extremely useful descriptors - height, build, tattoos, family background, method for killing. Howard is an effective police investigator who made a career as a radio show host.
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"Effective police investigator"
lol, lmao even
@@anon4854rofl, perchance.
🙌exactly
Ellwood also would have been recorded in the interrogation room, so they can then compare that recording to this, listening for tone, speech patterns, words used etc etc to make a connection
This is actually one of the most genuine vulnerable calls I've ever heard them take tbh
I've never heard Howard be so (though nonchalantly) invested in not having a caller hang up.
Hey it's the dude from ATA!
Great voice, tone and cadence.
I've been trying to find the name for the voice, but i keep coming up empty
The narrator is a voice actor and he does the voicovers for a few channels
This may very well be the most disassociated person of all time. The fact he can get on the radio and OPENLY talk about it like it’s normal is wild. Just absolutely wild.
Probably because the caller isn't a serial killer. Why does everyone think this is real?
It's really not that wild. You'd be surprised how many folks are like this. BTW you can call me clay
There was never a shred of evidence to show this was real. The FBI even looked into it. @@jbac5767
He is probably just a pure sociopath. They have no remorse. He sounds arrogant and selfish, which explains why he's not married. I don't think he sounds dissociated much at all.
Actually this is very common, just look up other videos of people like this.
You all completely missed him admitting he would have done it to his fiance but he would have became a suspect. When they were asking about his fiance.
Imagine finding this out if you were his fiance. Jeez
@@beewest5704 maybe she already had an idea and that is why she left.
13:01
no i didnt
I doubt anyone missed that
I remember hearing this at the time it aired. Definitely, at first I was thinking it was a hoax. But, as I continued to listen, I realized this was not a joke. Maybe, this was a reason I went into law enforcement. Howard and Robyn always had conversations with people who were questionable. But, they definitely knew the difference between what was radio, or trash, worthy.
I love that the guy didn't think he was talking to Howard Stern until he started interrupting
It's crazy how excited he got once he realized he was on air and actually talking to Howard.
Not really if you know who Howard is
i never knew howard was a bad guy, what'd he do? I'm genually clueless rn@@uggggggghhhhh
@@shamusmooredon’t think thats what he meant by it lol, think he just meant it’s not crazy to be excited to talk to Howard cuz of how famous he is
My dad used to love listening to Howard stern DAILY I wish he was still around to hear about this, I know he would’ve been telling us all about it. Rest in peace dad ❤
There's a chance he heard this live depending when he passed, I hope it was peacefull and he is in a better place now ! My condolences
Bro stop im literally gonna cry
He talks to much . Let the guy talk . He kept cutting him off . No , he wasn’. Howard needs to keep quiet enough to let the guy give more information. Many times the guy would of told more details and it was getting interesting and Howard had to keep TALKING . Blah Blah Blah and the woman.Howard TALKS TO MUCH . Just listen
You will see your dad again . I promise . He is with God . Heaven is a million times better then Earth . I received a sign from my mom and dad when they passed . Pray to God and ask for a sign that he is well . Are you Saved ? Do you believe in God ? Ask Him into your Heart if not . There is more to this World than we can ever imagine. We go on . We are just passing through
Im sorry for your loss, rip. ❤
This is wild. I'd never heard of this event before. Crazy
I actually started instictively write down all details from this. What the hell...
Good job, Howard.
I've been watching real crime videos for like 5 years now, and I'm so shocked I've never heard of this guy before.
Maybe you’re the guy
@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD maybe you're the guy
@@okthen657Maybe you’re the guy
It’s because they are black women and hookers. Louisiana is one of the most racist states they are not going to put any effort into finding who is killing black women a little on black hookers.
@@langleey2756maybe your the guy
Kudos to Howard. He actually tried his best to try an get as much information from the guy as possible without pissing him off or alerting to him what Howard’s motivations was. Howard would disguise a lot of his questions as joking or up beat. Howard was able to nearly paint a picture of who this guy was.
The guy knew exactly what Howard was trying to do (everyone did!) it was the entire point of him calling the show.
He wanted the attention & to come off as smarter than everyone else, especially Howard. For me “Clay” just came off as very bland personality wise. Just meh. Not someone that anything new could be learned about regarding why people kill.
@@KitKatToeBeans I agree with you, but that bland personality, is how so many of them blend in, and get by for so long.
Howard directly said he would turn him in if he could and that he should kill himself. He wasn't exactly subtle. Lol
And the guy was never caught
Almost all of the questions howard asked were pretty useless
What's wild is that i was born in the 90's around the new Orleans area, but stayed in the west Bank and i heard of most of the murders (atleast the ones in the 90's) on the news when i got a lil older to understand. All of my ppl understood the assignment of staying out of storyville around that time.
Regular people think that he’s killing people out of anger. Anger has zero to do with it.
Tell me more
Update: Big claims and absolutely nothing else, typical tryhard attitiude
Nah you’re wrong, anger is usually a huge part of it
@@yerik6034 I could see anger being a part of it, but only as a response to the real issue. The guy's so everyday unnoticeable that nobody noticed him. Loneliness followed by quiet desperation, but still nobody really thought anything of him. Had a couple kids with a woman, but even she didn't think much of him. He was always trying to say hey, look at me from the start, but was too lazy to follow through with getting noticed and got stuck in the cycle.
@@badgercdlyons yah but I think a lot of people have a misconception about anger. It’s not always being mad or upset, anger is a core feeling that stems many other emotions/symptoms such as depression and loneliness.
13:03 I’ve listened to parts of this interview before and never caught where he seems to be saying he would have liked to kill his fiancé but since he’d clearly be the suspect, he didn’t.
First time I heard that too
I thought I heard it just cuz he mentioned having a wife or fiance or something and Howard made the joke did you kill her sort of offhanded and the guy said know if I'd done that everybody would have known it was me. And I don't know if you was just divorced or separated from her she was dead but I remember staring like making the Joe like the idea wasn't fiance oh where is she maybe he killed her. And they were talking over each other and the guy just said if I'd killed her everywhere I would have been a suspect. So it was really brief to cuz I remember actually thinking yeah well it doesn't matter if you're actually a fucking serial killer already if you are fiance or wife is murdered you are a suspect until the police eliminate you as a suspect. Because in a very high percentages of fiance's or wife's being murdered it's the guy husband. So they start by eliminating the low-hanging fruit get it out of the way or they go with a high probability of spotting their guy it right from the get-go. course to the person gets accused of that it's terrible even if it's hinted at and they get a whiff of it it's got to be horrible and I think that because they see it all the time that's how they think it. So it was like real quick I think that was just in tire statement on it was if I had killed her I would have been a suspect or if I had done that I would have been a suspect and that was it that people are laughing talking over each other.
I didn't hear him say anything about killing his fiance
He didn't say he killed her I'm guessing she has a high profile job probably because he indicated if he killed her he would basically be caught instantly so she may be well known or/and they had a messy break up. He was not married to her but they obviously had a very long relationship because it sounded like he did get a divorce so they were together long enough for common law married to kick in. And as well they had 2 kids. The majority of people don't hear nothing lol I was half ass listening and was playing a game and still picked up more then most lol, in criminal investigation experience is far more important then smarts most times the only other qualifier would be luck but more been there done that! It's the little quirks for the job you pick up. Take the do you have tattoos question, the way he answered I bet he's got a tattoo but most likely 2or 3 minimum or he's got a fairly religious background and I'd guess atleast 1 tattoo. I don't think he's stopped killing for any reason but he's disheartened and put off by not getting the fix and power of his legend in the limelight hence why he would call Howard's show hoping for some bit of glory. This guy is just lucky he's not good he's not anything but a failure he's not a psychopath or a narcissist he's a posser better luck next time around loser lol!
I caught that too, but they were all talking over each other and they missed it.
The killer's confidence was eerie and heavy to hear, and in general he gave off a nasty pressure... Just listening to him made me feel ugly. Like others have said, I have to give praise to Howard and Robin for their level-headedness and calm demeanors.
it was probably a joke to them, have you ever listened to the howard stern show? they keep that demeanor no matter who they talk to
@@chrisb2038 Yes, a bunch growing up. In 2007, my god-father bought a jeep and it had Sirius radio, and Howard's radio show was a part of that. I loved his show. It's where I heard a parody of "Boys are Back in Town" in the words of "Her boobs are big and brown". Although, not until now have I heard him talk to someone like this.
@@chrisb2038that's the point they stayed in character regardless of what they were hearing
Sometimes when relaying a story or experience, my voice can get shaky, as if im experiencing it again. 22:05 makes me think he's really thinking about and seeing that moment again. It's like adrenaline in his voice.
This is probably the creepiest thing I’ve ever heard, and I’m shocked I’ve never come across this before? He is talking so matter-of-fact it is the creepiest thing. Very fantastic questions asked wow they asked everything I wanted to know lol
Howard Stern is the only person ever who could pull this off. Even Joe Rogan would ruin this interview with too much or too little input. Stern did it perfectly, he kept it serious, straightforward and perfectly matched the killers attitude to keep him spilling more
Jamie, could you pull up that video of the bear wresting with the serial killer?
Joe Rogan takes calls?
Joe Rogan is a million times better than Stern.
Towards the end he got clearly angry and tried to throw some weak jabs at the killer.
@@lovingmayberry307 Bad take. Rogan wouldn't even agree with you & you are too young to have experienced Stern in his prime. Rogan used to be a guest & a sit in comic on Stern; he worships Stern's talent & grew up on Stern...that's why you will never catch Rogan badmouthing Stern.
Did the person who transcribed the audio have earplugs in or something? lol
It’s probably all automated
It should ALL be checked BEFORE it gets uploaded.
It looks unprofessional otherwise.
@@CableWrestler It is one thing to have an occasional typo when the audio is somewhat questionable, but this was just sad.
Copyediting. COPYEDITING. COPYGODDAMNEDFUCKINGEDITING PEOPLE!!! ffs
I was gonna say lmaoo
Same thing on normal CC. Everyone does a shitty job now a days. The world was BETTER in ALL ways before now. We're doomed thanks to the new generation.
I love how he still calls him Ed after the guy tells him his name isn't Ed
These are the type of people that can roam around and do whatever they want with a society that doesn't know their own neighbors and have no ability to protect themselves without reprocussions.
I love that howard purposely screws up facts this guy already stated so he has to repeat, if not elaborate, the information. Also tests to see how his demeanor changes each time Howard messes up information. This guy either wanted to be caught so he called in to leave breadcrumbs AND/OR hes just that much of a narcissistic sociopath that he truly felt like all the info divulged still wouldnt get him caught because hes SO much smarter than the police and general population. I hope Clay is living out his extra miserable life, haunted. He deserves to have the days he gets.
That's because Howard is a sociopath himself. Very similar to a psychopath with the main difference being sociopaths actually understand empathy. That is why he was able to meet the vibe the killer was on and was as casual about talking about his murders with him as the killer was. Not all sociopaths are bad people unfortunately man abuse that ability to feel another's emotion to their advantage.
I myself can find myself somewhere on that spectrum because I'm very social person that is capable of talking to literally everyone. I'm very good at reading people and empathizing with the worse kind of people. I've had a few conversations with people who have killed and for whatever reason they confided in me information I'm going to the grave with. I was born and raised in a rough city so I quickly learned respect is vital for survival out here but I also think that SHOULD be a general thing. Psychopaths don't understand that either.
Anyway, I hope everyone stays safe out there and if my comment can relate to someone out there that may need to look beyond just a talk show. Howard is controversial but there's a lot that can be learned from his show
@@johnnymorningstar2855you need to get out more
@@johnnymorningstar2855 You're telling me people admitted to murdering another human and you are going to "take it to your grave". If it isn't a flat lie then it is utterly despicable. Where you grew up is not an excuse, your "street rules" are a complete fabrication and I can only hope you figure your shit out either as a liar or a terrible human.
You still aren't sure that he was caught....
Not a Stern fan, never have been. Not a hater either, just not my cup of tea. However I will be the first to admit that he is a very intelligent and intuitive person, which is likely why he does what he does so well. He's the type of guy that can insult someone and make them think he's complimenting them. Gotta respect talent/ability like that.
Howard actually handled that pretty well. he got a lot of information out of him without giving him a reaction or making him fear the questions he was giving him. even coaxed his ego at times to get more airtime which equals more information... he was doing the best he could with the little bit of time he had
I was listening to the killer's tones. I am a note-to-color musical synesthete, and in my writings and on my channel I explain how I have reason to believe that our hearing is color-spectral, beginning with middle C as red, and the final B as magenta (end of the rainbow). Meaning that C always. naturally sounds warm and robust, where as B is thin, light and airy (less physical and more like a ghost or spirit). That being said, I demonstrate how some serial killers (including John Wayne Gacey) speak of their crimes literally in the key of death: Blue. A-flat. Blue because it is the coldest, most distant and detached color. What's interesting here is that the guest-killer is speaking in the RELATIVE MINOR of A-flat: F-minor. (Each key shares a unique minor key that uses the same note-names. And this minor key is harmonically dependent on it's major key to function).
I usually write down time-line examples within the video so that readers can reference it here, but I'm traveling so I can't. It's still very unique in this given conversation because in the cases that I've analized the serial killer is always speaking in A-blat major. Major being the "happy" key, and of course minor being "sad."
If I had to make a final analysis is the man's (unconscious) choice of speaking in F-minor I'd say this. So, the F note is like green. Growth, change, letting go; transition (See Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony in F. The ode to Nature). But since the guest killer is "converting" that green into a minor mode, then he may very well be open to changes In other words speaking in A-flat would be embodying Death; But speaking in it's relative minor (F-minor) he is sort of questioning his motives for inciting death on others. There in an element introspection in his speech. Which may explain in calm while speaking of his crimes. He was pausing in a green, grassy field to analyze is cold, blue, heartless heart.
My other stuff is posted if anyone is interested. - _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
Very cool and interesting interview, to hear from someone who's like that.
I’m not a Howard fan but I think he did a good job asking this guy the right questions and keeping him on the air as long as he could or as long as he wanted. I think he did a good job. Along with his co host her questions and remarks could seem childish and something small but those could help also. I do think they did a good job. Sucks they never caught him.
I disagree. He seemed to be trying to troll the caller: "Are you a repressed homosexual? Maybe you should kill yourself?" which risked him hanging up, or triggering him into committing further crimes. It was his usual 'shock jock' shtick.
@@Man-From-Another-Place yeah that part I agree with you. That could of triggered him. That I didn’t think about
@@jessicaglass Yeah.
@@Man-From-Another-Placeon the contrary, instigaating a narcissist and deminishing their pride causes them to want to defend themself. it's actually incredibly useful, whether it was on purpose or not. they don't think like you, people like this can't let those comments go.
@@PunkySlush Then surely, wounding his narcissistic pride might trigger off his anger and make him more dangerous? I think Stern was playing an irresponsible game here.
this was so chilling. to think the guy was so calm when he talked about his killing. its scary to know people like clay are real.
Nah, what's scary is the humas species is so damn delusional and oblivious to reality and prefer to live in their egoic safety bubble that's nothing but fantasy. Reality is a blank canvas, it has EVERYTHING in it. Every species kills, only humans do it for egoic reasons or no reason at all though. Most humans have absolutely no idea what's out there. A few things I know would cause people to vomit just hearing it or realizing it happens.
If he's a legit psychopath, then it makes sense for the "fear" part to not be there. Most psychopaths are not afraid of anything.
@@GyrannonNot being afraid doesn't make one dangerous or a psychopath. Those who are enlightened don't fear anything.
@@ItApproaches No, there is obviously more to it, but it is part of it.
@@Gyrannon Apparently, after they're caught, most serial killers are very matter-of-fact about their killing. Some seem to be proud of their "accomplishments."
It’s weird how Howard was emotional about this guy, he made quite a few comments that probably gave The Killer some pleasure because it showed that Howard was upset enough about the situation that he couldn’t hold back his emotions even though overall he did a very good job of asking non-emotional questions otherwise throughout it
He did a really good job of keeping the guy on the line and sifting evidence out of him
The fact they’re able to treat this as an every day episode is just insane
They didn't believe him. It was a shock jock radio show, all about extremes and stuff in poor taste, so these types of calls probly weren't uncommon, his way of talking tho probly got him through the screening process to be put on air. Someone who wasn't all "I'm craaazzyy!!" and who Howard could bounce off of.
That is part of their schtick.
That also makes the show hilarious.
That is one of the things made the show great; the very dark and unaffected sense of humor. However, when Howard and Robyn decided this was not really funny and was real; their tone changed.
Eh, Howard isn't very far from being a narcissistic sociopath himself.
How many years have Howard and Robyn been together. She knows her place and knows no fear. The instant Howard hesitated, she would ask a brilliant question. This gave Howard time to think of a new line of interviewing. What a great team!
Interesting so they made an arrest out of this phone call perhaps
Always been that way.
from my knowledge of interviewing suspects from studying forensic psychology, howard did a pretty good job. it's all about the rapport. they're a serial killer, but they're also a human. so to succeed in an interview you must treat them as such, as well as cater to them somewhat like respecting that their name wasn't Ed, a small but meaningful moment at the start of the conversation that tells our potential suspect Howard wants to actually talk to him - this is also a great representation of what we mean by treating them like a human, yes, they're a serial killer, but generally, success in interviewing anyone, comes with rapport. sure Howard also wants the controversy and fame for talking to a serial killer, but the two things aren't mutually exclusive. he wants to both genuinely talk to him and profit from it.
The most chilling thing about this isn't what he was saying, but how casually he was saying it.
Its a shame more hosts don't try this kind of thing, anything that helps catch these sickos is good, and all that background info he was trying to get outta him (and somewhat did) is all useful.
I reckon if somebody did weirdo call ins, they should get the FBI to set them up with tracking and just not mention it- go outta their way to avoid tipping off the criminals.
By now they should all have call tracking in case something like this happens again, so idk when the next time a serial killer who hasn't been caught would call in to a show.
You'll just get more clowns doing shit just to be famous they already uploaded live stream terrorist attacks to twitch so no we don't need more Howard sterns.
BTK was caught in a similar way.
@@holdernewtshesrearin5471well Dennis Shrader was just an idiot lol. He basically asked the police if they could trace a floppy disk and when they gave him an answer he asked if they were lying and he just trusted them when they said they weren’t lying 😭
@@Nousername0 - I don't think so. I think he WANTED to get caught so he could tell his story and finally recieve notoriety personally.
Howard has an amazing talent for making people feel comfortable on the air! I wish they could've traced the call!
The FBI did trace it, after listeners complained. That's how they found the Russel guy who apparently bragged to other inmates about the killings.
@@detodosmoles well at the time pay phones still existed though so might of not get any leads but apparently it wasn't from a payphone.
I never killed a human or animal. But I stepped on some ants on the lawn.
tbh i dont think it was this howard guy that got it outta him n moreso the “serial killer” was lookin for sum1 to express himself to
@@detodosmoles the call didn't seem to have much to do with that suspect. he was already arrested and in jail on this date.
This really reminds me of the movie 8mm. The killer himself goes into an explanation of his motives in the film. Which sounds a lot like this caller.
I just love the way robin talks like they're discussing something trivial
You end by saying this serial killer is at large to this day, yet if he is Russel Elwood, he's in prison for life. Hopefully, that is him, and DNA evidence (if there is any on the victims) may yet convict him for the unsolved murders.
Dont they have any recordings of his voice to compare to this phone call? That would be a pretty good way to know if this call was Russell elwood. And if it wasnt Russell elwood then we DONT know if this was a serial killer.
@@eastcoastaudit yeah thats what i thought seems lil too easy to solve lmao
Well if he's in prison, he's a felon and his DNA is in the CODIS system, so if there's a connection to be made it should have by now.
@@patrickshaffer7051😂 they don't put every felons DNA in the system
@@rodolfobeans3531they take a swab, picture and prints when you arrive at the station. Not all felons have their DNA in the system because a lot of the times the perp has't been caught before or commited previous crimes in the first place.
The comic book character that he was talking about with the thumb painting is most likely Billy Kincaid, one of the most sadistic and vile psychopaths in comic book history.
He was a deranged child killer and pedophile. First introduced in Issue #5 of Todd McFarlane's Spawn series which came out around '92. This phone call took place in '97.
In the book, there was an incident where Billy Kincaid “finger paints” by gluing dead kids’ fingers to the wall.
All in all, he killed around 28 kids. Eventually Spawn kills him but they bring him back in the afterlife and he's much worse then.
This guy had an unhealthy fascination with comic books mentioning Batman, Spawn's villain and whichever character that killed with a hammer.
His pattern of killing also sounds almost identical to British serial killer, Peter Sutcliffe, the infamous Yorkhire Ripper of the 80s. Sutclffe also used a hammer and also pretty much exclusively targetted prostitutes. He was also married and led a relatively normal life outside of his killing sprees.
I wonder if this guy was familiar with Sutcliffe? The Yorkshire Ripper story was huge in the UK at the time but maybe not so much in the US .
It's probably Leatherface tbh. Sometimes he uses a mallet. He seems attached to popular icons in media to copy is why I assume that
he wasn't bragging about it when the whole talk was a Q&A basically. huge difference
Stern is a masterful interviewer. He knows how to set people up, or push their buttons so they give up more.
Great Howard Stern quote I thought I’d never hear, “I wish you would die but uh I guess you know.” Insane to think about this whole story actually being real
Such a raw quote
"Are you going to kill yourself or what? I'd kill myself" Damn
Thanks to you Howard S. for letting us listeners on the insight of a serial killer. It was very creepy and just glad he is behind bars for good.
He died in 2014 and from what I can find he might have been incarcerated during the time when this phone call took place. He seemingly confessed to murdering Cheryl Lewis and Delores mack and said he was wanted for over 60 murders to other inmates but in the end he was only charged with the murder of Cheryl Lewis for life.
I highly doubt the person in this clip is Russell Ellwood, the one that killed the other 15 or so women is probably still out there or dead but never caught.
I love how Howard disarms him and gets him playing 20 questions, and then gets him to spill the beans about not having any tattoos. Seemed like pretty good detective work for an off the cuff radio host. Could've paid off.
I don’t like how they give him leading questions. They should have just let him talk. He sounds in his 30s, has a very slight Jersey accent, sounds intelligent, so might be educated, sounds like he might be a smoker … I’m not sure this is real… he really doesn’t give detail to what he did to these women.. ex. Like his stamp to connect the women together, how he strangled them, how did he position the bodies, does he have keepsakes from each victim… he doesn’t look like he would fit the voice in that call..
We don't know what he looks like. Its very obviously real. There's a lot of variety and detail in what he says.
I thought his reaction to being pressed on what he said to the women before he killed them was very interesting. He didn't seem as confident or comfortable talking about that and he didn't want to give any specifics. I wonder why he didn't want to talk about that. I'd love to see an FBI profiler, or even just a cop, react to this interview. A therapist or psychiatrist reacting to it would be interesting, as well, and there are plenty of those on CZcams already.
I thought so too. It almost seemed like he was shy or bashful maybe even embarrassed trying to replicate something he'd say
Why do people think therapists are mindreaders? I have seen many therapists and their social/emotional intelligence is just average at best. Your average waiter at a restaurant has better social/emotional intelligence.
Facts. Therapists are trained to recognize micro expressions and understand psychology. That’s it.
@@RembrandtAI Why does what I said equate to therapists being mind readers? Just because they aren't magic doesn't mean they have no valuable input to give about this guy.
If I had to guess he might consider that to be too intimate to share, like that moment is his trophy - that is if it wasn't some kind of regret.
everytime it showed a picture of the victims, my heart just broke, those poor people didn't get to live their lives.
its not like they were living life to the fullest most were drug infused prostitutes. yet again its terrible what has happened-
notice on the rare occasions when bw are attacked by men of no colour its because they know we're the least provided for ,the least married ,the least protected .Howard showed he was not going to side with males this time but he used his popularity as a man to expose the suspects pathology .All those women were probably not going to be given 9-5 jobs right ? and they had mouths to feed,, which makes a judgemental holier-than-thou serialist rapper all the more disgusting and vile for unaliving them
How were the pictures obtained?
they lived their lives but they were cut short. they made a lot of bad decisions and eventually their luck ran out unfortunately
People often die young when they do risky things. RIP nevertheless.
this is chilling and actually horrifying.
This is the most braindead “analysis” I’ve ever heard. “He said ‘you can CALL me Clay’ instead of ‘my name is Clay.’ This leads us to believe Clay may be an alias.” Gee, ya think?! 🥴
Most serial killers WANNA be caught. I think he took that year off cause he was done killing. The thrill was gone. (The fear/thrill that he may get caught by police). So, after the police didn't knock on the door after a year, he needed too get the thrill back by calling a radio show, and taunting the police. He called a NATIONALLY BROADCAST show. He knew he could shock people. That's a straight narcissistic psychotic. And, he NEEDED to be caught to take the credit he felt he deserved. And, say, look, I freaking HAD TO CALL Howard Stern to help you catch me!!!
Psychotic instead of psychopath ?
How do you conclude that ? 🤔
Either narcissistic psychopath OR
psychotic narcissist. Not psychotic.
@JadedKate sorry. I'm not a psychologist. And I didn't stay at a holiday in express last night. I'm not sure if he's a psychopath or a sociopath, or just your everyday nut job. I just used psychotic as a blanket term. But, I'm glad we at least agree on the narcissistic part it seems. But, in saying that, I find it odd that that's what piqued your interest in my comment. Not the fact that a narcissist called a radio station to take credit for a murder? Do you think he's offended by my mislabeled statement? Or, my lack of knowledge when it comes to labeling people who have ended others existence? I don't understand your need to point out my mistake. Like, I could understand if you were defending someone who needed or deserved it, but, in this case you could only be defending the serial killers feelings of being mislabeled. Or, your just a troll. Or, do you just have OCD when it comes to English language sentence structure? Lmk, I'm really curious what the point of your reply was. Ty, and take care. Have a wonderful day!!!
@JadedKate oh, nevermind my previous reply. I get it now. I just looked at your screen name. All the tumblers just feel into place. The Jaded answers all my previous questions. Anyways, I still wish you a wonderful day, and hope you can someday remove the jaded parts of your life, and maybe someday go by the screen name, Happy Kate. 😊
I think he was referring to an early Spawn comic. A serial killer would cut off his victims fingers and make "finger paintings" with them.
Billy Kincaid. Published in 1992, and this call was 5 years later, so it fits.
Joker was never depicted so gratuitously.
@@graemejackson5979 yea Joker is a cool villain but DC seemed to keep him from being too vile a lot of the time. His popularity sort of holds him back, in my opinion. Of course there are exceptions, such as "Death of the Family". Although that story line is so over the top it seems like the writers were just testing the limits of the character at the time.
He SHOULD remain calm, he can get out so much information out of the killer. Pretty impressive.
When this radio interview happend?😮😮😮
I am in shock I never knew , never hear about it.