William F*ing Shatner
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2017
- This is a slightly shortened story from Wil Wheaton's audio book Dancing Barefoot, narrated by him and photos added by me to enhance the narrative with a slightly humorous twist... or perhaps slightly twisted humour
I made it for my kids on a rainy day They thought it was a laugh so shared it.
Big fan of both Shatner and Wheaton's work -so no offence to either
Stories, opinions and humour welcome in comments but plain rude, mean stuff towards either actor is not published - Zábava
Gene's actions were very kind, but it's the Frakes/Dorn moment that would have made my day if I were Wheaton.
Well, listening to this video... I think it did make Wheaton's day.
And Brent. On set, in position, even.
"You want me to kick is ass, for you?" GOLD! Priceless GOLD!
That’s a great story.
Did you notice Frakes referring the Wheaton as "The Teen Idol"? You know that wasn't meant to be a compliment, right? I'm sure it was just a little good nurtured ribbing but wow, what lousy timing.
I see a lot of comments re: Jonathan Frakes and Michael Dorn, so here's a shout out to Brent Spiner for doing exactly the right thing to cheer a young actor/fanboy up.
Everything I read about the TNG cast fills me with joy
I've watched this story several times now and I'm not ashamed to admit it, my eyes still fill up, every time.
"Shatner shit all over the teen idol." --makes me laugh every time.
I met Jonathan Frakes, and he was nothing but supportive. I’m meeting Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn and Gates McFadden this summer.
I loved it when the note was read out, you know damn well that Shatner was not asked to write it,he was TOLD to write it.
What's better
The fact that Will got the note
Or the fact that Shatner was MADE to write it by the GBoTG
Any how was great 👍
Just saying 🇧🇻
I'm not sure anybody could TELL Shatner to do anything.
Great story, so engrossing! I'd heard similar stories about Shatner while living near his horse farm in Kentucky. They eventually faded, and one day a little girl at the local feed and tack store told me that Shatner had heard her horse died, and he had sent someone over to her family's farm with a beautiful horse as a gift, with his condolences. I suppose we all have good days and bad days!
My guess is that Shatner has mellowed with age, and is aware he can be an ass sometimes. he seems nicer as an older person.
Yes! Recall that Scotty hated him for years.
@@robertballard8833 I don't know. Even in his older years, Shatner can still be a douche bag from time to time.
@@robertballard8833 The young actor maybe didn't have the maturity to see that people have bad days....🤔.
"For heaven's sake ! No-one's perfect !
There are SO many more anecdotes about Bill Shatner's kindness, amiability, co-operation, humour and thoughtfulness.
It seems the youngster made as much as possible out of this brief incident...it was surely just a difficult moment ....Bill S . has put SO much time and effort into "coming up with the goods" for all the filming : it's tiring and demanding having to do so much !
Young lad should get it in perspective, IMHO .
Best Wishes from England.
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@@robertballard8833 Nope. I wouldn't say he mellowed at all. I was in Madison in the summer of 2018 and I saw a movie poster for WOK where he was supposed to make an appearance. His face on the poster looked like he wanted to murder the photographer. It wasn't exactly a poster that said "Hey, come on out and see me."
I love how the whole cast had his back. Makes me love TNG all the more.
William Shatner was/is an arrogant, egotistical dick by all accounts, but it's not like he assaulted him. He was just being his usual cranky bitch self. Will needs to get over it!
@@phily8093 did you ever meet any of your childhood heroes that turned out to be jerks? And mind you, you were 16? That's a big deal and something to remember.
@@GeorgeGiann I have! Musical too. Boecephus was an ass, one would think Ray Stevens would be nice, but no. However, the nicest one I met was Johnny Rivers. Long story, but he did a favor for me and he truly was "Secret Agent Man".
TNG crew all seemed to be aware of Shatner's reputation.
@@GeorgeGiann No. I had a good experience with mine. I met Ian Mckellen at Gay Pride. He had been enjoying a drink or ten, and was very merry, and so was I. I drunkenly said I loved him, and he was an amazing actor. I kissed him on the cheek. He said "Thank you dear boy" channelling Gandalf high on Old Toby, before he was dragged through a VIP door. Best night ever!
There's an old adage, you should never meet your heroes because you'll always be disappointed.
why ive never gone to any in person event for star trek
I think you should still take the chance. I've met a lot of cool people I used to idolize growing up, and thu ended up being alright.
I would SORT of agree with that! I got to meet my Drumming Idol/Mentor/Inspiration, "Neil Peart" of RUSH at a Drum Clinic in Hollywood California back in the Mid-80's And he was AWESOME! We spent alot of time talking and hanging out. When the weekend was over he didn't just shake my hand... He actually HUGGED Me! He was VERY VERY COOL! And a GREAT LOSS! :(
Your right.The only actor i ever took a chance on approaching was George "Sulu" Takei and he was fantastic to me but i already knew he was kind to fans.Everybody knows what William Shatner is,i wouldn't dream of approaching him even if i got the chance.
I got to meet Leonard Nimoy and I was not disappointed, just the opposite. He had been touring in the mid-1970s as the lead, Tevya, in Fiddler on the Roof and I was a volunteer teenaged usher. He was not feeling well, but went on anyway and delivered a great performance. He gave autographs afterward. When he got to me, i was blown away by how amazingly nice and humble he was. It felt like he radiated love and appreciation. Memory is a funny thing, but I will never forget his lovely presence.
I've meet three Star Trek actors over the years
- Wil Wheaton: I met him not at a sci-fi con, but at some sort of public event with a celebrity meet-and-greet. He wasn't particularly talkative, but there was quite a line, and he was giving out free autographs. (I think paid autographs were still frowned upon.) I had asked for two: I had two copies of "Strike Zone", which had the likeness of a Klingon, Picard, and Wesley on the front cover. He made one out to me, and one out to a teenage friend of mine, who had CP and couldn't make it around large public gatherings. Wheaton was still a teenager, so he may've been a bit subdued to the whole meet-and-greet situation. But he was as nice as could be expected.
- James Doohan: This was also not at a sci-fi con, but was at an auto show. I'd brought my copy of "The Star Trek Compendium" for him to sign. Most other people had some sort of stand-alone picture (8x10s, etc.), but I brought a book. He was as gregarious as one would hope. I opened my book to a page that had a still of him in the episode "The Galileo Seven", where Scotty was electrifying the hull of the shuttlecraft to ward off some attacking beasts. One of the guys handling the autograph desk asked in a puzzled way, "What's that?" indicating my book. Mr. Doohan opened the book up to other pages, showing this guy what the compendium was, and how it had all this interesting trivia and behind-the-scenes information. He then asked where the picture was that I wanted signed. He reopened it and signed. A very sweet guy!
- George Takei: Mr. Takei was actually the first ST actor I'd met. I had just moved to a big city (Washington, DC), and my parents pointed out there was a science fiction convention at the Marriott Twin Bridges in Arlington, VA. When I got there, I just melded into the crowds, looking at merchandise and collectables. I heard an announcement that he was going to speak in a certain room, and I just went. I don't recall paying for an admittance to that event; I just went in and stood about center of the room. Mr. Takei came out, and he was effing hilarious. I recall laughing all the way through the hour or so that he spoke. Right after that, he was signing autographs. Being a motel, the only space they had for this was in a hallway. So all the fans that wanted autographs lined up; the line snaked around several halls in the motel. I think he was only scheduled for an hour of signing, and it was 90 minutes later that I was approaching his table. I was afraid that they'd close the session because it was taking so long. But Takei kept signing, talking, laughing with each fan that came up to meet him. I had the same concordance that I'd later have signed by Doohan. This time, I opened the book to a picture of Sulu from "The Naked Time", when he was chasing his crewmates around with a fencing foil. (He'd told a story about how he'd been practicing fencing, and everyone thought he was just playing ambush with the foil.) He found it amusing that I picked that picture (with him all glistening and shirtless; I just wanted an action picture, not a beefcake pose), and then he signed it "D'Artagnan" instead of "George Takei". :)
Takai seems to be very nice and funny, Doohan now was have you rolling on the floor funny!
By all accounts, James Doohan was one of the best to meet. I’m truly saddened that I’ll never get the chance.
This is great. I love it that Roddenberry made Shatner apologize to Wheaton IN WRITING. That blows my mind.
I swear, Klingons make the best friends. "You want me to kick his ass?" :D
"No... just take the bathlet and scare him a little."
I would pay so much money to see Michael Dorn, in full Worf Ensemble, b--ch slap Shatner on his own set.
YEP! You've GOT TO LOVE IT When a KLINGON WARRIOR Has your Back! OR as Jadzia Dax once said... "WHO says there's never a KLINGON Around when you NEED one?!" INDEED! QAPLA!!! Wil! :D
Don't forget, he was a CHiP too.
It would have been fun to see Dorn make Shatner shit his pants a little. I'd have paid big bucks for that scene!
I cooked for Bill Shatner a couple of years ago. He took the time to shoot the breeze with me, and we spoke of a common passion of ours for about minutes before his performance. He autographed a few things for a recovery based fundraiser,and took a picture with me.
I thought he was a great guy.
Proof that we all make mistakes, and can change. In his autobiography he acknowledges that he's only ever had one true friend. So I guess he's not a great reader of people / people person. It was probably his attempt at humour, but he wasn't thinking of the impact his words/ actions would have on this kid. I wish I could say I'd never been an ass to someone, but of course we all have. Good to hear that Bill was nice to you
People are complex. Sometimes I’m an asshole too, but not most of the time. People seem to label actors based on a single interaction with them.
Never read his twitter.
@@missrocks God(dess), how I wish all celebrities stay off that "Hell" site.
It seems most people who arent actors and hv met him seem to hv good things to say. However, it seems like other actors don't seem to like him. In my opinion it's the fact that actors feel entitled and that maybe it's not William Shantner who's the problem, but all these jealous actors.
12:48 "Do you want me to kick his ass Wil" - LOL
R.I.P. Gene...
"Would you? I'd really appreciate it."
I remember getting Michael Dorn's signature in Forbidden Planet in Glasgow years ago. Tiny little shop, and I swear I could feel the bass from Dorn's voice through the floorboards :)
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Didn't expect Wil Wheaton's narration to be so engrossing and expressive, and the photos work really well too. Thank you for taking my mind off all this virus/lockdown stuff for a little while!
I saw those episodes of Big Bang, where Sheldon meets Wil, that was great. I've also heard renditions of William "trying" to sing, and that is painful.
Wil reads a lot of audiobooks and does a superb job. He reads some of John Scalzi's works, but I think his best performance is probably Ready Player One. He also read Masters of Doom, the story of John Carmack and John Romero and the creation of ID software and the Doom franchise. He's a very talented narrator for sure!
when kirk said FIRE at WILL, he actually meant, FIRE AT WIL. What a jerk, and what a bunch of great people.
Wil Wheaton's audio books are excellent, I love all of his work
Wil Wheaton is incredibly expressive. His narrates many audiobooks and it's an absolute joy to listen to him!
Like they say: "Never meet your heroes."
Exactly. I find that the more know about an actor the less i like them as they have flaws....and it ruins the mental image i have built up of them/...
@@esecallum says: *Exactly. I find that the more know about an actor the less i like them as they have flaws....and it ruins the mental image i have built up of them.*
Every human being has flaws and that goes for actors and actresses as well.
No one should build up a mental image of anyone because they are no better or worse than you are as a human being regardless of what they do for a living.
IDK, sounds like Jonathan Frakes, and Michael Dorn would have been great to meet.... and of course, the literal Hero Gene Roddenberry would have been great to meet.
Except to meet Mr. W - I'd be honoured to be treated like dirt by him. You know, he flies the Enterprise 1701-frecking-D and is best friends with #1 and the Klingon. He always gets the cute teenage girls that visit the ship and gets to smartmouth Locutus and save the ship and everything. That way I'd have a story to tell, even if Mr. W who is my hero tells it so much better!
I met Vincent D’Onofrio at a con last summer and it was awkward.
I wholeheartedly agree with your statement.
The actors that are able to laugh at themselves, not take it seriously are the ones who’ve been the most successful.
@Fernando Chavez: Spot on. I worked within the entertainment industry for a length of time. The one's that shouted the loudest, wanting centre of attention were the least talented. Sort of like 'small man syndrome' ergo over compensating to stay in the picture (pun intended).
So what excuse is there for Will Shatner?
none!! :) what a jerk!! wheaton was just a kid for crying out loud!! imagine the rest of the cast having to put up with his bs all those years!!
The question is.... are they the most successful because they are able to laugh at themselves? or are they able to laugh at themselves because they are the most successful?
@@HanZie82 Yeah, and a fan kid is a fan kid, boy star or not. What's nice is how it takes a village, a star ship set, a cast, and a film crew to raise a child - and keep an old fart in line.
Data found time to humor, telling Will that Shatner "wears a toupee." And "balder than baldy there", pointing with his head at Capt Picard. How protective they all were of Will!
Awww, this explains why Wil Wheaton was so nice and sweet when I met him at ComicCon. Remember that movie, “A Christmas Story?” Remember how that kid was when he finally got to meet Santa. That’s how I was when I met Wil Wheaton.
I was a young immigrant working at the airport in PHL. Mr. Shatner turned up at my counter to check in for a flight. He was early. No one standing around. Just the two of us. He wore a cap. I am a big fan of ST TNG. I never met a nicer celebrity in my life. There was no one around for him to show how nice he was. I was dumbfounded, but he was patient and said encouraging words. He chuckled when I asked for his picture ID and apologised for following protocol even though I knew who he is. I keep his autographed copy of his boarding pass on my desk to remind me to be kind to everyone. Just saying..
sometimes I wonder if shatner is trying to be funny he seems to be a funny guy but maybe a lot of the time he comes across as me when it's really probably just kidding, I know somebody who knew him years ago on a semi personal leveland was told that in real life he's a wonderful guy to deal with an incredibly accommodating and friendly and generous,and yet from some of his co-stars and some of the people in the industry they say these horrible things
I'm inclined to think Shatner was having a bit of fun with WIll, that he probably didn't mean any real harm. From what I've seen of him, he wants to be making a joke about nearly everything, so that might be all it was. Also, he was working on set, so he might have had a problem he was wrestling with. I hear the production of STV was really fractious, and Shatner might have been frustrated. Bad timing and all that. I say this because I've heard many reports like Roger's, where he is described as being genial and pleasant and quite down to earth.
Either way, it was GREAT the way everyone rallied around Will, especially Gene. I think of all the Star Trek family I would have liked to meet, Gene might be the one I most regret never having done so.
@@Nick_the_Troubadour He probably has good days and bad like anyone else. There's an audio of him getting irritated at a guy coaching him on how to "sound like Shatner" when he's narrating a space documentary. Man Shatner really turned the screws on that guy. Deserved in my opinion. You don't shat on the Shat.
@@Nick_the_Troubadour exactly. Shatner is a bombastic personality with ZERO empathy. He doesn't mean any harm but he has a problem recognizing when he causes harm nonetheless. A lot like Donald Trump's personality. They really don't know what asses they can be when they THINK they're being charming.
I think it's wonderful, that you had a great experience with Bill, but keep on mind he is an actor and can "act" nice anytime he wants to! Now having said that, everybody has "off" days and isn't going to be Mary Poppins every day, were all human!
I read a bunch of comments and it's a shame most missed the point of this story. It wasn't about Bill Shatner, it was about Gene and how he took the time to take care of everyone under his command. Gene Roddenberry was the real starship captain running the show, not Bill Shatner.
The title of the video would suggest you're mistaken.
Sorry, but the subject of this story IS "fucking Bill Shatner". And as the other commenter here alludes, the video's title only confirms that. If Wheton wanted the subject to be Gene Roddenberry, then he would've used a different title and used the Bill Shatner encounter as a supporting element rather than the primary element.
Agreed. Although it's plain that Shatner being a total asshole is a major theme of this anecdote, Roddenberry's affection for Will and his protectiveness of him is obvious and clearly was the biggest impression this experience left on him. I also love that Spiner, Frakes and Dorn stuck up for him. Michael Dorn offering to beat somebody up for you--even in jest--would be immensely reassuring for any nervous 17 year old! ;)
yeah...thats why the the title of the video is, " William F*cking Shatner"...theres more than one kind of ass
That may be the positive takeaway, but this is most definitely about Bill.
I met him at a convention and he was delightful, interested and remembered me hours later for the photo op. I guess everyone has off days.
Captain's note : don't hire hyper sensitive drooling fanboygirls below a certain age. This business can have unexpected side effects in the long run.
@@nerdiloo9863 he reacted like most kids would in that situation. we can't all be vulcans. side note i do think he definitely dramatized the story here but that's how it is with a lot of actor autobiographies. you gotta inject some drama.
Yeah I got to meet him a couple times. He was super nice, shook my hand, did a photo op and made small talk. For a guy who was super busy, he sure seemed to genuinely want to hear what I had to say. He is sarcastic and likes to joke around. So Im assuming that is what he did when he met Will.
Yeah, He's awesomely hilarious. but def rubs many the wrong way. Especially that nitwit Sulu, Such a drama queen.
Shatner has gotten better in his old age, but back then, he was, in fact, a raging shitbag.
69 years is all we had him for. RIP Gene.
Is it just me or did sixteen-year-old Wil Wheaton look a lot like a young Elvis Presley.
Yes I was thinking it was Elvis lol
I kinda got that too at the start of this whole deal!
"Will, bill shatner is an ass."
- Gene Roddenberry-
R.I.P.
How ironic that now Wil tends to brush off his own fans Shatner-style if they happen to meet him in public. I had a friend who ran into him at a movie theater and he refused to talk to them or even look at them. His wife spoke up and told them he doesn't talk to fans outside of paid event appearances.
lol...sounds typical
Wil experienced an anxiety or panic attack once after a fan ambushed him and his family a few years ago. Some actors are really good at handling fans off the cuff; Wil isn't one of those, especially when he wants to relax and have a family night out.
After following Wil on FB for several years, I think he's a good guy who went through and still deals with a lot of sh*t. He's an advocate for mental health and depression issues, and I really respect that.
This was the first time I'd heard him do a reading, and it was brilliant. I'll be starting audio books because of this.
For real?? That messed up!...he hasnt had an acting job in 20yrs!
@@benneclone7991 He also did the audiobook version of "Ready Player One". It's a fun book as long as you don't think about it too much, but Wil Wheaton's performance as a reader is top-notch and fits the book perfectly.
I worked with Will twice. Once one TNG and also on an After School Special. He was such a nice guy. Just a genuinely sweet kid and totally unaffected by his fame. I can’t imagine how anyone could be mean to him. Willian F-ing Shatner ...
Well, Captain Trek has a good side and an evil side. Remember?
Never met wil in person yet but it's definitely in my bucket list. We're about the same age but I've always looked up to him
And now I know more about Wil's parents, it's especially heartbreaking that a man Wil so admired would treat him so badly. What a punch in the gut. Thank goodness for Gene Roddenberry, Stewart, Frakes, Dorn, Burton, and Spiner, truly good men.
WW: Hi Mr. Shatner, I am ...
WS: Shut up Wesley!
There's a lot more to the story, of course. The first apology note was wrung out of Shatner by Roddenberry, so it was polite but half-hearted. Years later, Wil and Shatner met again at the set of a game show (Weakest Link), and Wil discovered that Shatner was a more relaxed, funny guy. This is like a few years after Captain Kirk died on the big screen.
Yes he should have made a point of looking Wil up and apologising in person.
IIRC there was tension between Wheaton, the host, and the woman who plays b'lanna on that show.
@@Aeroldoth3 Anne Robinson attempts to create tension where there is none, most people end up disliking her more than anyone else on the game.
Gene Roddenberry was the real "Captain" of Star Trek. He sounds like an amazing guy and has had a lasting effect on so many people.
Like Shatner, Roddenberry could be a real egotist at times. He rubbed some people the wrong way. BUT... he had a really good heart. Unfortunately, his egotism got in the way in Season 2 of Star Trek TOS. And ultimately he was marginalized enough to be pretty much AWOL for Season 3... and it showed. Fred Freiberger ruined pretty much most of Season 3. The series never should have ended with "Turnabout Intruder."
No... GENE was "ADMIRAL RODDENBERRY"! :)
Supreme Leader is warranted IMO. A great man worthy of the position.
That was PERFECT! I was giggling all through the presentation and by the end, I have a catch in my throat and tears in my eyes. Thank you!
Well, Gene Roddenberry, seemed like a very, very nice man.
the records say so
Gene Roddenberry was married to Majel Barrett who played nurse Chappel and Mrs troi, Deanna mom on Star Trek. He was a cop in the 50s and 60s.
Roddenberry was a nice man, but, he also had a rep for being a selfish, and even cheating business man. That, by the way Americans and others do business, doesn't make Roddenberry not a nice man. Shatner's another man. He tossed the poor kid a hot potato and the little guy's fingers stung. The rest of the village gave him a band aid, and let Shatner know he'd been an ass to a kid he shouldn't have. Shatner does the right thing. It's all so human. It's good enough.
@@oliversmith9200 If Shatner meant any of that, he would have written the note. He had it typed up and stamped like a sore loser that just got chewed out by his boss. And as the story Wil told said, he was continued to be treated like crap by him. Shatner did no right thing, he just did as he was told by the boss.
@@oliversmith9200 I guess it was mutual, because the studios and writers weren't particularly kind to Roddenberry either, especially during the first film which sucked a lot out of him. So he ended up a little on the paranoid side by the time TNG started production, especially where the writing was concerned.
But Roddenberry was nowhere near the abusive bag of dicks that his attorney Leonard Maizlish and producer/writer Maurice Hurley were.
12:38 "I love it when he calls me W." I absolutely lost it at that line with that photo.
I wonder how long after that, that the Character Westley Crusher [Wil Wheaten] was given his costume change ... to a proper Star Fleet uniform. ~Gene Rodenberry was awesome.
The costumes for Will were terrible early on.
In the first season of TNG Patrick Stewart was the oldest member of the cast. He was 47. Wil Wheaton was the youngest, 15.
Last year, in 2019, Wil Wheaton turned 47. He is now old enough to play the Captain. I really hope he turns up in Picard.
Holy cow, I'm 47. This adds a whole new perspective when I watch reruns of Season 1 of TNG.
If he does get a role in Picard, I might sign up for CBS to see whatever powers he learned from the Traveler. I thought that was one of the better recurring Wes Crusher stories in TNG, and it's a shame they only did 3 episodes (well, 2 and a half).
Aww the symmetry of life
@Adam Drozdz .......Science Officer Sheldon?
The Airbus A320 is from the first season of TNG. It is exactly the same today as it was in 1987.
I love this book. A few teachers and I were going to go to Las Vegas for a Star Trek convention, and it ended up being the only one I’ve ever been to. All the other teachers canceled at the last minute so I had to go by myself. It was a wonderful time and I had never really paid attention to Wil Wheaton and when I heard him speak I instantly became a fan. He was so kind and I
met him and had him sign my book . He made you feel at ease. Just a regular wonderful person.
I met Captain Kirk once, 49 years ago,(I was 3, I had no idea who William Shatner was)
But Captain Kirk was very kind to me, and even showed me around his "shuttle craft".
He had a small camper on his pickup truck, and at 3 years old I thought it was a shuttlecraft. He played along, and truly made my day for years.
I guesse I caught him on a good day,
You were 3.
That story is in a Book he wrote.
I feel like I've heard this before. Did Shatner actually mention this, or have you been interviewed before?
Had a chance to meet Shat at a rehearsal for the Aaron Copland "Portrait of Lincoln", which was being performed by the Glendale Symphony under Carmen Dragon along with some of his own arrangements. Shat was the celebrity narrator. He had his perm toupee on and was in general pretty friendly. I was sitting on the end of the tenor section row. I looked over and smiled at him kind of nervously. He smiled back....he wasn't a jerk on the whole. He shook the hands of the entire choir of teenagers. There must have been about 100 kids there. He didn't offer autographs but that is pretty understandable given the situation. He CAN be cool when he wants to be...or he can be a jerk. In other words he's human.
Even Satan helps an old lady cross the street sometimes
Sitting next to Data himself while he made fun of Shatners toupee would have made me not care about the entire incident lmao
wow the kindness of Gene Rodenberry brought a tear to my eye
What a great story. Best narrated story I’ve seen on CZcams! I had no idea Will was so gifted at story telling. God bless!
You've got to see this with a musical background!
That's how I first saw this tale!
This is so wholesome, I really liked the way Gene responded
I met shatner when I was about 14 and while I kinda stood there dumbfounded, shatner was only slightly nicer to me than to Will. What struck me immediately after meeting him was how short the man was. I was 14, and short for my age and Shatner who I always imagined to be much taller was only about 2 inches taller than me AT 14. I'm sure by the time I finished growing I could have dwarfed him.
@Tammy T I think his true height when he was young was 5' 9". He's probably about 5'8" now.
Either way back then people weren't pumped with GMOs so him being 5'8 is fine they all were besides Spock
@@angelface101ful Being short was more common in the past due to malnutrition, not GMOs.
Being bullied as a kid myself, I would of been afraid the sh*t would really hit the fan once Bill got called-out for his actions and made to apologize. That at least has been my experience in life. Things get worse when you make people accountable.
I remember watching Wil on TV. I truly enjoyed how he narrated this story. Well done Wil.
Dude's class. Whatever some may think of the Wesley Crusher character, Wil Wheaton is awesome.
Felt like an episode of The Wonder Years.
haha ya
It did, didn't it?
You are right...it did for sure, lol
This was very well written. I love how he recounts every detail.
His character was totally screwed over by bad writing.
Yes, and Wil's, too.
I agree about Will’s writing. I didn’t like his character. Had nothing to do with Will, just made him into the annoying teenage know it all.
Jason Nesmith of Galaxy Quest was based on Bill Shatner's personality.
never meet your heroes
mike martin They always let you down
So, so true. Cheers!
I’ve met a couple of mine and they are absolutely lovely 🙂
My father said he had a childhood friend that loved Larry, curly and Moe.
Guess his friend had a chance to meet Larry, and stood outside his door waiting for him, and he opened the door, saw the kid standing and waiting. He screamed, "FUCK OFF!!!" at the top of his lungs to an eight year old, and slammed the door in his face.
Never meet your heroes is truth.
I've always worshipped Quentin Tarantino. He's my cinematic hero but I would never DARE to approach him in any way. I love the guy, from a distance. He can be a serious beast and anybody I admire, well, if they were awful to me it would ruin ever watching and enjoying the very stuff that made me adore them in the first place.
I absolutely agree. Unless they approach you because they liked and admired your work, unless they seek YOU out...never meet your heroes.
Love it! Great job with all the pictures to make the story more memorable!! Thank you!
I can't remember where, but I had read that years after TOS William Shatner had become more humble admitting that he had been a jerk When he was younger. I like to think that He always carried that persona in him and has to make a conscious effort to be more humble. It doesn't come naturally to him but the desire to be better is in him. He's human after all.
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outstanding editing,really caught the mood. And shines a better light on Wil
Love, love, LOVE the photos. Nicely done!
This was the most touching behind the scenes stories I’ve heard. Good for you,Wil
What an amazing tale, loved it. Thank you.
Good to hear the TNG cast willing to stick up for him especially Jonathan Frakes and Michael Dorn. But the best moment of this extract for me is Brent Spiner cheering Wil up, by telling him that Shatner wears a toupee and is really balder than Patrick Stewart. 😂😂
I was Shat on in 2016 getting an autograph on my pet squirrels picture dressed like Captain Kirk.
They told me not to talk to him. I left him a copy. He didn't even look at me.
He signed it "To my smallest fan." a reference to my Squirrel Junior.
I wouldn't want Captain Kirk to be any other way 😀
Never meet your idols. You’ll often find they have feet of clay. I have always been a big fan of sci-fi. Good to know Gene Roddenberry was a decent human being.
He was definitely protective of TNG, including the cast.
Years ago my Mom said that all the candidates I worked for had feet of clay also. Mayor Arn Bortz (Retired) of Cincinnati was the best. Senator Gary Hart apologized to me...Some of your heroes actually don't have feet of clay all the time...
The Great Bird was human. He had his faults as well, especially behind the scenes. But when it came to Trek and the fans he did his absolute best.
Love it!
"Press on with pride Ensign Crusher"
"Aye sir!"
"Make it so"
"Pressing on Captain."
This story proves that the TNG cast all had each others backs. It's no surprise (unlike the other incarnations of Trek) that there was no bickering or infighting amongst this group of actors. They respected each other on a professional level and cared for each other on a personal level as well.
Lots of great life lessons in this story & well told.
Thanks for sharing... even teared me up a few times.
This was a great interview. I always liked Wil Wheaton and his character, Wesley Crusher. Never understood all the hate for his character.
I still don't understand how he got so much hate, TNG was my favorite of the Star Trek franchise, followed by DS9, and any movie featuring Mr. Spock. (Leonard Nimoy)
I'd say his acting sucked at first and that cemented peoples opinion. That might have been intentional though.. it distracted people (or at least me at the time) from the fact that everybody's acting sucked at first in TNG. Beyond that... nobody likes children, and Wesley was the "child" character, the most hateful of all stock characters.
Lack of confidence in one's own masculinity, I expect. Mark Hamill got shit on for the same reason.
We hated Wesley, because he could have adventures on the Enterprise, we could not. He had it too easy...
I don't know if it was the mood of the late 80's at that time, but his character persona was too "goody two-shoes." I think he reminded a lot of boys about how geeky one can be. Cringe-worthy. Might've been a combo of directing and Wheaton's acting style. BUT... he got much better later on.
He has a fantastic voice for Audiobooks.....he read the audiobook of 'Redshirts' and it was fantastic :) :) I hope he does more audiobooks work he has the magic for it.
I agree, he did "Ready Player One" and his reading was one of the highlights of that audiobook. He's a talented voice performer.
I love Will Wheaton's snarky, wry, down-to-earth story. I love how he eschews Hollywood pretentiousness. The narrative is so good, thank you!
I ran into Shatner at Shooters Restaurant in Lex. Ky in 1985-86. He was with 2 females. They were all dressed in Westetn wear, and had dust all over their clothes. Our table was next to his. I asked the waitress for another table. He overheard and grabbed my elbow as we walked by. "What's wrong?" he asked.
I told him I was a fan, and there was no way I could have dinner with my wife without staring at one if my childhood heros....which is rude.
He laughed and said it was a nice gesture. He was very friendly and personable. I guess I caught him on a good day.
He was nice coz you were stroking his ego.
Now I have got to get this book! That was truly a great story ! well done and thanks for posting this.
"I love it when he calls me W..." The picture! Hahahaha
RIP Gene. You were a fine human being and we miss you very dearly.
Holding a grudge for too long is too easy to do. Forgiveness is a challenge, but it is divine.
Thank you, Ms. Rowsdower, for this informative, if slightly inaccurate, but still true rendition of this meeting. Thanks for adding pics, photos, memes. You are a legend.
Awesome story...well written and executed. The best part is the support of Gene and the other cast members.
Very cool
Totally agree.
B Bee, agreed and I loved Michael Dorn response of support to a teenager.
The funny thing is, I have met Jonathan Frakes several times now and he is just as Wil described his reaction. Brent is a funny man as well.
Search for what Walter Koenig thought about him ( Shatner )... you'll be amazed... or probably not
"Though a childhood hero had kicked me in the nuts..." Hahahaha Awesome
Its so sweet how Gene and the crew stood up for wil and tried to cheer him up
That was great, I feel like your character when I go to a new job. I watch the show reruns often. Thank you so much.
This this is like a devastating and yet humorous story,
devastating?.. yes. funny?.. yes. hilarious? - f'kin A!
What an amazing story Will. The sense of family you felt was truly special. I also met Mr. Shatner, long story short, I was devastated at his "assness" myself. Glad you bounced back!
This was very good. Thanks for posting it. I like all the photos you added.
This video is a keeper. I think I will add it to my CZcams channel watch list.
Shatner has a reputation of being a jerk to everyone, fans and coworkers alike.
George Takei has hated him since the '60s.
Shatner has also said publicly that he doesn't understand why Takei has a problem with him, and that they barely spoke while they were making "Star Trek" together. Shatner has also said that if Takei felt dissed back then, he (Shatner) apologizes.
Shatner isn't the monumental dick that some think he is. Is he everyone's cup of tea? No.
Yeah... he's still not that guy who played Pike. If that counts for anything.
Dave Marx "that guy" was Jeffrey Hunter. It was disappointing that he refused the role of Kirk for the second pilot. I really liked him but in my home we always laughed at Shatner's overacting ability which made Kirk seem pompous as well,
We built in My Fabulous horse trailer for his Kentucky Trotters and their trainer it even had a hot tub in the front of the horse trailer for The trainer. That didn't matter we did our best to make the best horse trailer we could for William Shatner and he was just a another a****** when he showed up
Takei is not much better.
That was truly heartwarming! Thanks for sharing it...
Wonderful story - and the accompanying pics were perfect! Kudos, Ms. Rowsdower
Will Wheaton is a great narrator / story teller. His narration of Ready Player One is one of my all time favorite audiobooks.
You know the episode where the transporter split Kirk into two parts? A good Kirk and a bad Kirk. That’s what I think of with Shatner. Whatever he is in real life, Star Trek would have been nothing without him. And maybe just like Kirk, it takes both the good and bad Shatner to make him who he is.
God, Shatner so overacted with his facial expressions in those days! He became a much better actor in the movies!
As someone who was also treated bad by older people in a young age and who had never such a support like Wil had in this situation and therefor suffered a lot from it for years, this really made me also put things into perspective even after 20 years. Thanks for sharing that story.
Roddenberry is THE MAN! Sorry you had to experience that. You’re great! I’d love to see you acting again. Hugs and kisses (virtual hugs and kisses that is!)
My dad hated Will Wheaton’s character he would refer him as “the obnoxious twink” But after re-watching TNG as an adult he wasn’t so bad.
Agreed, he wasn't so bad.... as bad obnoxious little twinks go... :)
It wasn't his fault. The character was poorly written, IMO. But Wil did a great job with what he was given.
Was Will the Chekov ot TNG?
I couldn't stand the Wesley Crusher character in the original airing and to this day still can't stand that character!! However, Will Wheaton is a great guy and this was a great story!!
I met Shatner at age 62, I had pretty much same reaction. But he was very nice to me, I probably would have burst into tears if he hadn't been
When he impersonates Patrick Stewart he sounds a bit like Rimmer in Red Dwarf lol
..I’ve never trusted kids on my bridge.. and I never WILL. I could never forgive them for stealing my Star ship.
And the children shall lead
Gene: "Bill, the Enterprise-D is not your starship. Now go write that nice note for Wil."
I know there's a lot of evidence Shatner is an asshole, but was this simply a case of him being in character? ("My bridge")
i love this guy ! thanks for the shows and movies !
As a type of analogy, I will refer to the Clint Eastwood movie 'Gran Torino'.
Do you remember the scene with the barber? The insults, that weren't really insults?
An ancient teaching method from the East is to attack the student. It's not done out of hatred or dickery but from love or care. It's intended to improve a person, and can even be seen as a compliment.
Back in the '80s I was getting my foot in the door in my industry, and I was the butt of everyone's jokes and object of all the practical jokes. An old coworker took me aside and explained that as long as they pranked me and chewed on me I should realize that it meant they LIKED me, and if they ever went silent THEN I should worry!
Does a person have backbone? Can they be a man, or are they going to require everyone around them to treat them with kid gloves?
And Kirk did have a 'kid' on his bridge - Chekov (Walter Koenig).
The "kid" on Kirk's bridge was almost the same age as Shatner was, although Shatner didn't know it at the time.
I get your analogy but it almost certainly doesn't apply here. Shatner is known to be a dick; I've talked to one coworker, a former fan and a maitre' d here in LA and all report that he's an exceptionally rude and entitled guy.
In pretty much any interview with him you can tell he's supremely entitled and self-centred. TBH so it the character of Kirk (tho not as extreme as WFS) so it's perhaps not too surprising.
Ok Will, as a 54-year old Star Trek fanboy who had learned years ago that Bill and James T Kirk are two very distinct persons your story didn't come as a surprise. What did come as a surprise is your ability to tell a story like this. I thoroughly enjoyed it, albeit three years after you posted it. Nice to hear about backstage TNG from your perspective, much appreciated. Also a bit sad to think about the positive influence a man like Bill could have been, something you seem to have understood much better. The Traveler would never have noticed Bill ;-)
EXCELLENT! Well done! Best YT video I’ve seen in a long, long time. You tell a great story, Mr. Wheaton.
Both Shatner and Wil got over this YEARS ago and have patched things up .
Was that confirmed by multiple future meetings where Will had a nice experience with Bill?
Love the TNG cast, and I love the fact they get on so well.
Every damn one of em, love em all.
Rekaert Me too!!
This video gets an A+...This is the reason I love Star Trek "The Next Generation." Wil's narration of the TNG actors and staff had Wil's back from the Shatner's encounter and to get praise from Gene Roddenberry was the "icing on the cake!" I am also glad that Wiliam Shatner gave Wil a written apology which is OK but a personal appearance would have been much better. Which we did see in this video of Wheaton and Shatner having a drink together. I have been to serveral Star Trek shows and ALL of the cast of Star Trek that I have seen have been respectful to the fans that pay and come to see them.
I enjoyed watching this very much! Your creativity and humor shine through.
I met him after he did a large gathering. I rested my had on his shoulder and said thank you very much. He acted as if I was an alien creature. I met Brent Spiner and Gates McFadden and they were VERY nice! They really care about people.
that's why shatner was so good in his role of denny crane on boston legal-- he IS denny crane! :D
Joe Weider -- I'll give you that. He is what he is, and his cockiness was exactly what was needed on TOS.
I love Shatner, but I have to laugh. In a similar way, you can't get Tom Selleck to play anything but a 'Good Guy'. And you can't get Shatner to be the diplomatic Picard. Shatner's awesome as a dick, so play to that and you have gold.
Now that makes sense !!!
Agreed
Awesome story - Gene Roddenberry was a terrific person, obviously!
Roddenberry also represented the worst of Hollywood. He demeaned the women and more. Made them dress almost like Playboy bunnies. Kirk often chasing the women. Frankly, it's hard to judge someone from 1 encounter. But most of all, I wonder why the narrator couldn't handle his own zipper.
@@zealandzen The zipper was at his back, I don’t know about you but I think most people wouldn’t be able to reach it.
Frig em Will Weaton ....frig em all. I always loved your Wesley Crusher Character.
Met William Shatner in the ‘70s at a con in Kansas City, Missouri. He was charming and adorable, telling funny stories and being self-deprecating. A friend and I were seated right in front of him. At one point my friend whispered to me, “His ear it pierced, is he gay?” I told her that he was in a new show called Barbary Coast (1975-76) and he sometimes played a pirate. He must have overheard a least part of it because he looked over and winked at me! Throughout the rest of his presentation, he’d glance over often and and flash me quick grins and sly smiles. And as he left the room, he waved directly at me. Well, that was the highlight of any con I ever attended. And, he’ll always have the key to my heart.