Razor Pocket Mod Scooter 36v Upgrade!
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2019
- Upgrading our stock 24v Pocket Mod to 36v electronics.
On Amazon if you search “LotFancy 36v” you will find the speed control module for around $29.50. The motor is a MY1020 36v motor. They come in a variety of wattages. I got an 800w one and the top Speed is around 16-18mph on flat ground, almost hitting 20mph on declines. You may want to go with a 1000w motor for more speed. Not sure if the controller can handle a 1000w motor though, you would need to check specs. Other than that, I used some random screws from my parts bin and the thick plywood doubled up to make the motor mount. We run this set up on a 4s lipo and 6s lipo run in series to essentially create a 10s lipo.
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What battery did u put back in?
@@chikaalove50I explain the batteries at the 7:45 mark in the video. It’s a 4s and 6s lipo run in series.
Thank u😂 I miss that I clicked out to early lesson learned to watch all the way through sorry about that and that u so much for answering my question.
A neighbor tossed one of these out in the trash two days ago. It runs great but needs some tlc. Can't wait to start some upgrades. You've given me some great ideas.
Nice! Those are the best finds!
Will you be posting any videos on your build?
@@gerardogaona6557 No, I don't know a thing about video creating. I'm great with my hands... small engines, machinery, custom building toys and models. But the tech stuff eludes me.
Hey buddy install a motorcycle engine on it 😂 I'm planning on installing a motorcycle engine fr
It'll be fast tho 😂😉
Seems like you live in the most ideal environment to raise kids. Plenty of land to ride. No wonder your little girl hopped right on and took off. She wasn’t scared of it at all. It seems she wouldn’t mind going faster lol.
Great Video, thank you for taking the time to create it.
good for her. she is a champion. love to see dads that make things go faster.
Thats dope how you hooked it up! Nice!
GREAT VIDEO!
Really liked your end.
God bless!
Just bought everything for my sons. Can’t wait 🙌🏽
Derek and Courtney Very cool! Let me know how it goes. 👍🏼
MapleBoarder78 yes will do 🙏🏼 I did purchase 2 ExpertPower EXP1290-2 12V 9AH SLA Battery’s. Do you think that will run good with the 36v motor?
Derek and Courtney As far as I know, the system will not work on 24v, you need 36v to power the 36v motor and speed control. You would need three 12v batteries which will not fit in the stock battery location as it’s only meant to hold two 12v batteries for the stock 24v system. That is why I use lithium batteries kept in the seat compartment.
MapleBoarder78 do you know what the battery’s are called that you used? And that meter thing on the battery wire?
Or do you know a cheaper way to get battery’s for the system. Them battery’s are expensive 😂
Thank you so much hehe I'm gonna do a mad build with this style one but using the duel 1500 hub motors for more room for the battery 😈
Nice build
I love videos like this i have uprgaded mine to 36v 500w its a beast do not drive in ice tho 😂
I did this 1 mile to my freinds house and love it already put over 150 miles in a 2 week span
SewZz _ very cool, thanks so much for sharing.
@@MapleBoarder78 why am I watching these when I’m over the weight limit for these little scooters. I guess because my nieces have one they love it.
I subscribed because I likes your ending so sweet
Fun fact. The throttle you replaced it with used to be the standard on the old Pocket Mods. Mine came with it back in 2006.
Picked one of these at a estate sale for $35 bucks re pop laced the chain and front inertube and tire. It uses cast spokes the thick spokes on the razor. And using a 12v to 24v booster converter works very well with it. Haven't done a top speed. And using a battery that build on the back pack to power the boost converter. It a 40 ah battery pack that is power the set up and with it stock motor.
Here is the video on my Instagram
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I used a 8s lipo and didn't change out anything else. It now goes 20mph without much effort. Having been using it for years now without overheating issues.
Whats a 8limpo
Still no issues? What spec 8s Lipo did you go with?
My little girl and I just picked one of these up at a thrift store for 9 bucks she loves it...daddy gonna upgrade it for her
Also plan on adding the kit of using the 72v 5,000w motor onto the razor it will be insane.
😆 thats awesome 👍
Awe y’all are Christian so sweet I’m a Christian too I’m going to go to sleep I have Sunday school to teach Sunday morning. I had 5 kids in my class from 4-9.
that kid singing in the backgroud lol
I put 2 24v motors on the little razor dirt bike. It didn't increase the speed but it carries my weight much better. I also used 2 lawn mower batteries
Wonder if this would work on our Power Wheels Harley?
19 thats impressive for a 800w motor
❤ ❤❤ those praises... giving GOD thanks for the wisdom and making everything possible!!! YES! YES!
nice
I find lipo's the best because they have consistent power all the way to dead empty, I'm planning to buy a cheap ass scooter from razor or something and do a 72v conversion kit and go flying haha
🙏 amen
good job. great video. how much runtime do you get on those batteries?
Somewhere around 30-40min
Cool! So you upgraded t 800w MY1020 motor, 36v controller, how did you mount up the new batteries? Did you weld in a new battery tray? What batteries did you use, guessing not the old 24v. I'm modding up 3 pocket mods I just bought and trying to do it right the first time LOL
Jaylin
7:45 Shows my battery set up. I use Lipo batteries under the seat. Not really any room for 3 12v SLA batteries in the frame unless they are tiny. You can do either a 6s and 4s in series or two 5s in series.
See you later, Sweet Pea, and watch those gravel. Great video, thanks
When you wired the Quad switch in, where you able to simply plug and play, or did it only work with the new motor controller?
Plug and play.
How long did the battery life last? before ya needed to recharge?
Nice Job!
8ah lipo batteries tend to take the scooter about 6 miles on dirt roads. You could probably get 8+ miles on pavement.
where do you live,, wow what an awesome looking area...
I really love ❤️ the outro, god is good through all things praise the lord.
God. is. not. real.
@@tobydavis1370 nevermind all the evidence of creation by god🙄
Hey just wondering did you use the stock sprocket on the motor ?
I used the sprocket that came standard on the motor I bought on eBay.
Nice build! I am still looking for a cheap MY1020 motor and batteries and I have a question.. What if I just replace the speed controller from the stock 24v to the 36v one, will it have any effect on the speed and mileage of my scooter? Sorry I'm not electrically inclined lol
Thanks and stay safe!
Fun Times With Gaby - Hi! Unfortunately if you use the 36v speed control you must use at least 36v to run it which will burn out the stock 24v motor rather quickly.
@@MapleBoarder78 Ok got it! Didn't notice that I am using my kid's YT page lol Thanks again!
What kind of battery are you using and how did you incorporate that into the build..?
I show my battery set up towards the end of the video. It’s a 6s and 4s lipo battery run in series to power the system. My battery video goes into more depth on how I do it...
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Hola me gustaria saber donde puedo comprar lo necesario para hacer lo mismo con la moto de mi hija. Gracias bendisiones..
thx for the quick reply. sorry for the dumb questions but, how do you get 40 volts out of (2) 14.8v lipo batteries.
One is a 4s (14.8v) and the other is a 6s (22.2v) ran in series for a total of 37v, but remember, that is nominal voltage assuming an average voltage of 3.7v per cell. The actual voltage of each cell when fully charged is 4.2v giving you 10 cells at 4.2v = 42v. You can also run two 5s lipos in series. Just make sure they have the same capacity and discharge rating.
@@MapleBoarder78 gotcha!! I assumed they were both 4s. New to this lipo stuff thx man
I know this video is older but could you do a video on how to wire this up under the seat? What do you use to charge the batteries? Do you have to remove them or did you install a BMS inside the razor? Sorry for all the questions
Hi Joey, I probably won’t have a chance to do a video about the wiring, but I can tell you what I did. I just snipped off the stock battery connector on the speed control and soldered on a deans (some people prefer XT-90 connectors). Then I drilled a hole under the seat right above the speed control to feed the deans connector through up to the batteries which you can see at 7:50 I use a basic lipo battery charger I bought on Amazon. You can get them for around $30-$50. To charge them I unplug them from the scooter and charge them on my work bench. Here is a link to a charger…
smile.amazon.com/FCONEGY-Battery-Balance-Discharger-Batteries/dp/B0848J872Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=lipo+charger&qid=1632425933&sr=8-3
Lipo batteries are plentiful on Amazon and from places like HobbyKing. Unfortunately it can be hard to find good quality batteries for a good price. I tried buying cheapo lipos for a few years but always ran into issues with cell quality. You might have better luck.
@@MapleBoarder78 All I can say is Wow…Thank you for all the information.
Bro I got to ride my freinds moped today I'm so jelly🤣
I just bought one from Goodwill for 10$ and have no clue what I'm getting myself into. Though I do want variable speed and LEDs. Hopefully build a Tesla battery pack and fast charge. The motor upgrade sounds great for later.
Really wish it came with that type of throttle control for gradual acceleration. I just got one of these yesterday and had a low speed wipeout on it on my first test ride and I'm a 47 year old. Fortunately I was wearing my helmet and jeans though so I didn't get any injury other than a slightly bruised knee.
@@michaezell4607 that's hilarious
Hi MapleBoarder78, I am hoping maybe you have the insight to help me. I've tried a few different avenues to figure out my problem and they've all hit a dead end. I'm trying to retrofit my daughter's Pocket Mod v. 47 to have a variable speed throttle (not upgrading the battery or motor as you did). As far as I can tell, no one makes a kit for v. 47. I have the wiring diagram for the v. 44 and v. 47 and they are only different in how the controle module connects to the on/off switch and the battery (everything else is plug and play). I just need a few more wires and connectors to fix the problem but I don't know what wires or connectors to order! I don't know if I can post the diagrams here...
Cathryn Sayer I apologize, I just saw your message! 🤦🏼♂️ Did you ever figure this out? The only way I could find to get a variable throttle was to change out the speed control unit and motor like I did in this video. I didn’t really want to change out the stock 24v motor, but the 36v speed controller can’t run on 24 volts.
I dont know if youre still replying but is that in Ridgecrest? The desert and mountains really look like it.
Emerson Ottoline Quin We are not near Ridgecrest but I’m familiar with Ridgecrest though, it’s definitely very similar here. 👍🏼
Hey man, wondering if you con point me in the right direction on what lipo batteries to get from ebay? Please.
I haven’t bought lipos in a while so I’m not savvy on current brands. You’ll want a 4s and 6s lipo to run in series. Biggest mah you can afford. Read the reviews and hope for the best. It’s kind of a crap shoot with those cheap Chinese lipos on eBay. I’ve gotten good ones and bad ones and often there is no rhyme or reason to it.
I used to run RC cars. Whats the rule to match up lipo batteries to these? Even if I'm running 24v. I'd like this switch, I have charger full l set up for lipos still. Thank you!!
For the 24v Razors I use a single 6s Lipo (or two 3s wired in series). For the 36v systems you need 10s, so either two 5s lipos in series or a 4s and 6s in series. For 48v systems I run two 6s lipos in series. Just make sure they are the same mah and C rating and they work. 👍🏼
Did you replace the original throttle? Mine doesn't fit with the new controller.
Yes I had to replace it, the original throttle won’t work with the upgraded 36v speed control. I had no trouble getting it to fit.
@@MapleBoarder78 Whats the part number or how do I look for it? Thanks a million man!
I was looking on eBay for the 36 volt motor and the electric speed controller, do you know which one to order, my daughter has the same bike.
If you still need it, it would be a 36 v mx500/ mx650 controller.
💥How do you connect the motor to the speed connector and what are those white things called to connect thanks
TGS TV I connected the motor by soldering banana connectors onto the ESC. That’s what the motor used (banana connectors). I’m not sure the “white things” have a specific name. Electrical harnesses?
And what battery did you use
A 6s 8000mah Lipo from Turnigy and a 4s 8000mah Lipo from Zippy connected with a series connector. I charge them separately with a cheap Lipo charger from Amazon.
MapleBoarder78 thanks I really appreciate it
How many holes do u drill
6S and 4S together? Don't they have different voltages? is 14v and 22v how youre achieving 36v? I heard youre not supposed to do that. Let us know if anything goes wrong.
bo jackson You can run them in series like I have, but not parallel. They also need to be around the same mah. Been running great.
MapleBoarder78 heard series with diff volts is bad. everyone says it but i wouldnt be surprised if everyone was overreacting. let us know if it starts dying faster than expected.
@@bojackson3073 Why???? Have you ever open up a lipo pack before??
They're just single cells solder together...FFS
There's different C ratings( discharge rate) and Mah ( size of gas tank..per say)
It woundnt necessary cause over heating..Battery management/balance would be wack ( But he's using the same mah size 8000 mah for both packs....So they discharge at the same rate.
i run 5s in power wheels...3s and 2s 5000 mah 50c...
it has more power than 5s 30 li on ( drill battery pack)
i actaully make 6s from old li on packs. to 6600 mah at 30C
To get the same performance as 5s 50C lipo
I order the 1000 watt 48v ( same size motor)..becuase it' s only $3 more than 500Watt.lol The speed control i got is only $12 it can do 40A continue 60 A spike..it has REVERSE..but no chinese instruction
for the harness.lmao (it;s not that complicated..if have RC toys)
That motor is only 20A.lol
.i dont have to use 48 volts...but can use it later whne they get older.
going to install it in power wheels..basically using the quad's rear end
Do 36V...keep it around 12-15 mph...becuase i live in the city.
Or even less...12mph tops....
Until they learn how to drive it better or do 48V in open field or country roads....I'll just get 4s x 3
Huh... kinda re thinking my choice of tires. I bought these because they were the closest thing to what im looking for and they were complete. I'm building a custom mini chopper and need new wheels and tires but I couldn't figure out what to look for so I went on Amazon and seen a set of tires for a razer something or another they have all the parts I need I just didn't notice the size. But It is a mini chopper so these should be fine till I can find a fat rear and a big skinny front I like better.
"Fab skills" lol.
Whats the top speed difference between the stock motor and the bigger motor at 36volts? My stock motor does 25mph on flat ground with a pair of hoverboard batteries.
I was never able to test the top speed of the stock motor on 36v before it burned up unfortunately.
@@MapleBoarder78 Mine seems to have a bit of instability at speed. Does yours do this to? czcams.com/video/XeNOrtar9c0/video.html
@@danielauen7790 Yes ours is similar. We have a bit of that “shimmy” in the back.
So how many miles can it get in a single charge you reckon? I'm annoyed that this toy is faster than My electric bike which only goes 14mph😭😭
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Haven’t tested it all the way, but we’ve gone 6 miles easily. It can probably go around 8-10 miles depending on your speed, the terrain, inclines, wind, rider weight, etc... That’s with a 8000mah 42 volt battery.
I'm here too for the miles and run time the upgrades add...👍. I want to do this so bad
Hii I was wondering what battery are you using for it??
You’ll need a 4s lipo and 6s lipo ran in series, or just a 10s lipo. There are also 36v specific lithium batteries on Amazon. The specific ones I used in this build are no longer available.
what were the forums this man was talking about?
Endless-Sphere or Electric Scooter Parts are a couple.
How did you do the batteries?
Jimmy Chafins Bought a 4s lipo and 6s lipo off Amazon and run them in series with deans connectors. I use low voltage detectors on them to keep them from running below 3 volts per cell. You need a lithium specific battery charger to charge them. 👍🏼
So the bigger motor means that you can haul more than 170lbs? cuz the max weight for Razor Pocket mod are only up to 170lbs
That may be based on how much weight the frame is rated to hold as well. Razor doesn’t specify whether it’s based on the frame or motor.
what prise
what battery did you use?
A 4s lipo and 6s lipo wired in series under the seat. If you watch toward the end of the video I show my battery set up.
If wood gets to hot can it catch fire?
Smile with Dentures The motor doesn’t get hot enough to burn wood, it generally doesn’t get hotter than 120-140F. And that is the motor can itself, the legs which connect to the wood are much cooler than that. Great question though. 👍🏼
Not a chance it has gods name on it
Would someone please post a link to the "forums" he keeps referencing?
End-less Sphere and Electric Scooter Parts forums. Just Google either of those with the addition of something like, “Razor Pocket Mod upgrade”. You’ll find tons of threads with people talking about how to upgrade them.
I'm building a gp pocket rocket performance. Do you think 48v will get me to 30+
I've topped it at 15-18mph on full charge stock
@@danielpolk9140 In my experience, 48v maxes around 28-30mph in optimal conditions. I had a 1000w 48v kit on my bike a few years ago that would hit about 28mph. If you wanna hit solid low 30’s I’d suggest going with a 72v kit (you’d need three 6s lipos run in series. You might get there with 48v but it will be a stretch, and you’ll need at least 1500w’s.
I work at a scrapyard and can get all sorts of stuff. The razorquad I got I'm planning on using a scrap golf cart speed controller and putting lawn mower tires
Is it possible to got more then 10 miles on this bike
Yes, you’ll need a battery with higher capacity. Probably around 16ah (16,000mah)
Anyone know where I can get some new batteries and tire tube?
Decepticon leader Megatron Amazon.com is where I got my tire tube and Razor batteries. I prefer off brand batteries.
MapleBoarder78 thanks person who’s gender I don’t know so I’m telling you so I don’t offend anyone because I’m a pacifist and don’t want any trouble
Wait how long does it last on battery
It varies depending on the terrain you ride on, the rider’s weight, how long you are engaging full throttle for, and the size of the lithium battery. I believe I was using a 8,000mah (8ah) lithium battery and it would last around 6 miles on hard packed dirt roads. If you used it on paved roads I’d imagine you could squeak out 7 or 8 miles.
can they go up hills?
Mila Pen Yes, does pretty well. Speed up inclines will decrease as rider weight increases. My 60lb daughter can zip up a hill much faster than I can. I’m 150lbs.
Can you help me get a parts list
Sorry for the late reply. On Amazon if you search “LotFancy 36v” you will find the speed control module for around $29.50. The motor is a MY1020 36v motor. They come in a variety of wattages. I got an 800w one and the top Speed is around 16-18mph on flat ground, almost hitting 20mph on declines. You may want to go with a 1000w motor for more speed. Not sure if the controller can handle a 1000w motor though, you would need to check specs. Other than that, I used some random screws from my parts bin and the thick plywood doubled up to make the motor mount. We run this set up on a 4s lipo and 6s lipo run in series to essentially create a 10s lipo. Let me know how it goes! 👍🏼
MapleBoarder78 how is it working so far?
@@thankyoujesus2836 I apologize, I did not see you comment until today. For some reason I didn't receive a notification. It is still working well. My daughter and I love to cruise around on it. If I could go back I think I would go for the 1000w motor instead of the 800w for just a bit more acceleration and top speed. But we only drive on dirt roads and sand which takes more oomph than driving just on pavement.
What did you do for the charger and esc
I just read your first response, do you use a esc
whats the new top speed ?
Time stamp 6:30 in the video. Hit about 19mph on a slight decline. On flat ground it will probably cruise at 15-16mph.
Is it faster then the mx350
Gonzalo Torres Yes, makes it about as fast as an MX500
What's the range?
OnlyDavidWould Haven’t tested it fully, but We’ve gone about 6 miles before on dirt roads mixed with steep inclines. In the city I’d guess it would go around 8 miles or so.
Does it also need a different charger now?
White light Yes, you need a charger that can charge lithium batteries. I bought a lithium battery charger on amazon for around $50
@@MapleBoarder78 thanks so much for fast response!
How did it hold up
Works great. I need to get new batteries as the old ones are toast.
@@MapleBoarder78 cool thanks for the update
Your mind has helped you Jesus couldn't care less
What's the part number for the batteries?
I don’t believe those batteries are available anymore. I’d search eBay or Amazon for a 6s and 4s lipo with matching mah ratings.
@@MapleBoarder78 thanks!
@@MapleBoarder78 Whats the little switch with the lights called? The one coming out of the batteries
@@SS-st6qr That is the Low Voltage alarms.
Thanks man, really appreciated it. Just bought my lil girl one of those scooters and I wanted to last longer than 15 minutes.
thanks for the video, but i think you'll find a rainbow is mere refraction of water causing a prism to reflect the broken down white light wavelengths. not some folklore made up story
What’s a made up story?
Jesus, the bible, Mohammed, yahwe, Thor…..etc. any of the thousands of man made religion nonsense
@@davelaye7003 What part of Christianity do you find is non sense?
@@MapleBoarder78 maybe all the parts that encourage Slavery, homophobia, genital mutilation of children, hatred for others, infanticide, misogynism, intolerance, eternal torture of non believers and general bigotry. but hey, we all cherry pick.
its obviously a nonsense written in the bronze age by by barely educated men.
i'm sorry but if you're an adult and believe stories like all the animals all fitted on an arc built by a 1000 year old man, or that someone made the sea open and walked through it. you gotta be pretty easily fooled.
How much was the parts?
You can get a motor/speed controller kit on Amazon or EBay for around $150-$200. And then a 36v lithium battery will run you around $150 or so depending on the size.
@@MapleBoarder78 I have a bunch of 18v Milwaukee batteries that I put in my daughter's power wheels car. And some 36v batteries for my ego mower. I know the 36v would work. But would the milwaukees work?
@@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr I’ve seen people use them but don’t know how they hold up long term. If you wired two in series you’d have 36v, but they may not have much capacity due to their size. My battery was an 8ah and was the size of a large brick. It could get us about 6-8 miles depending on the terrain and temperatures outside.
@@MapleBoarder78 gotcha. I don't mind buying a motor and controller. But hopefully I can avoid buying batteries 😂 I already have plenty.
uh.... you never showed us where the new batteries go, and what you used.... kind of important.
Details on the batteries starts at 7:45 in the video as I show where I keep the batteries and what type of batteries they are. 👍🏼 Two lipo batteries run in series. You can do two 5s or a 6s and a 4s. Essentially you need 10s to run the system. For more detailed information check out my video about how I put lipo batteries in my Powerwheels cars. It’s essentially the same concept but higher voltage batteries are needed to run a Razor 36v system. Good luck on your project!
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Really cool u did this for ur kids but I’m gonna say the plywood stuff isn’t really proper…js
I agree, but I do a lot of whacky stuff like that. I enjoy the experimenting and trying weird stuff to see if it will work or not. 👍🏼
Any way you could add a list of links and monetize them for yourself? That would help us and help you...
Unfortunately I buy off eBay so links to any products off there won’t work once the seller removes the listing. Is there something you are having trouble finding? In the eBay search bar type in...
-my1020 800w 36v motor
-36v Razor control module
In regards to the Lipo batteries and chargers, there are a hundred different brands you can go with. You’ll need to search battery forums to get recommendations. I just buy cheap knock offs on eBay. I use a basic 4s and 6s lipo run in series.
Jesus helped? That's kinda cheating.
Fun upgrades. Big Props to you for giving credit to where its due our lord and savior. god bless you and your family.
...and when you believe in the tooth fairy you will always have a dollar under your pillow...nice video, cringie ending!!!
Ben Crawford -Ben, if Christianity were true, would you become a Christian? ☺️
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Can you take this Scooter and give it away for free for me?
R/choosingbeggars
if she wants to donate to another 13 yr old girl let me know :)
"all's to the walls
Can't run a36 with a 24