I DIDN’T Migrate my Minecraft Account - Here’s What Happened
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- čas přidán 7. 03. 2024
- What happens if you don't migrate your Minecraft account? The goal of this video is to document exactly what happens if you don't. Maybe I could get it back?
Old Minecraft Launcher compatible with Microsoft accounts: github.com/olauncher/olauncher (This is not my software and I'm not responsible for any issues that may arise from using this)
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If buying isn't ownership, piracy isn't theft. Full Stop
piracy never has been theft. its only copyright infringement.
congrats you know what a period is
Piracy isn't theft anyways because you can't steal something that can be recopied.
your right, its not, piracy is legally considered a different crime just as purchasing a digital good is legally considered different owning, you don't own things digitally (nor have you ever) and because there is no way to legally own a digital good you can't steal a digital good, you can pirate it, which is a different crime
piracy isn't theft, its piracy, but its still a crime
minecraft is very easy to play for free lol
Some players reported being unable to migrate due to technical errors. For them, this process was literal robbery.
I couldn't even log in to my account for some reason and couldn't change my password
You should have emailed mojang then
@@eric11 It is extremely annoying and difficult to do that sometimes. They hardly help you at all unless you make them, and even then it takes days. I know from experience lol. I agree this was total robbery for many people.
Womp womp
I did not get the option to migrate my account until two months before the September 19th cutoff. If I had not been following it up almost obsessively I would have missed it.
"hey, just giving you a warning: I'm gonna come take your TV from your home in like 3 years so... Heads up"
Lots of people don't have access to their email anymore.
That is most likely the biggest reason why so many people didn't migrate.
this is what happened to me but mojang SUCK
This is what happened to me aswell. I created my account in 2011 and after a couple of years I couldn't acess my email anymore. I was writing so many emails for mojang for help but they would just "reccomend" me to buy another account
@@FlyingVenets Blame Microsoft
Got the game as a kid in 2011. Stopped playing for many years, decided to get back into it only to realize my childhood account had been deleted..
This basically happened to me, only i had sold the laptop i had been playing on because my ex never let me play. I only found out about the migration because i was still getting emails from mojang.
yahoo deleted my email account a long time ago and so my minecraft account went down with it. funny enough i couldnt use my old username for my new account so it must still be listed at mojang/microsoft somewhere
@@FeZerretsame here but not for minecraft, many other accounts tho are lost because of the mfs at yahoo
@@FeZerretsame here yahoo deleted my email too, started playing Minecraft in beta and was never able to recover my account where I had ranks and tons of progress on all sorts of servers, hundreds of dollars gone
Same here, lost everything
Entirely non justifiable to have such a short cut off period - thanks for trying to escalate this to the highest level. I also lost an account during this, and it's wild because Microsoft must have a record of how many tens of thousands of copies they've cut off and yet still are doubling down on this.
3 years is more than enough. not keeping up is your own problem
@@nevan2201 did you even watch the video
Agree
Hi beautiful man.
Corporate Minecraft sux.
I want my indie Minecraft back.
@@nevan2201 as said in the video life can get in the way, or you're not interested in minecraft, or you weren't informed of it.
I created my account in 2014. It's lost and I'm honestly heartbroken. Thank you for shedding some light on this. ‹3
Bro if u need one account for cheap or want something let me know i will sell mine for cheap if you want
Imagine losing all your memory on a acc you had
@@VGODP yep. i dont play MC anymore but ive had my first account since i was 9 (so in 2011) and its not gone forever and i am not buying another. literally stupid
Same. Wow. Microsoft Microsofting
This warrants a lawsuit if you ask me.
The problem is that for most people, a lawsuit will cost a lot more time, effort and money than a less than $30 game warrants. Just sucking it up and buying a new copy is faster, easier and cheaper. Microsoft and other companies of course are fully aware of this and so abuse the hell out of it.
Against microsoft? gl with that
But we all agreed to the arbitration clause in the terms of service. We'd never make it to court.
@@noahpiatt No, only US residents would have to go through arbitration. And you can opt out of Arbitration. It is your legal right to do so.
If you are in the US, always, always, always opt out. They don't make it easy to of course, but do so.
Yes @someoneelse8295 against Microsoft. What you think would be an easy win for them would be just a settlement on their end. They dont want to waste their time on small stuff and considering Mojangs EULA was violated by them it's a huge legal scandal that says "oh hey we took your money and we refuse to return it. But we'll happily take it again."
Dinnerbone was forced to stand right side up. That should've been our first warning.
Ha nice catch
Wait what? The name tag trick for mobs no longer works? If that’s the case I’m gonna be MAD
@@TheSuperJepphyKillerI think it’s just the player Dinnerbone. Not the name tag thing
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@@sumvaldebrevis
No, not the player- Dinnerbone in the advertisement / announcement for migrating accounts
Fun fact for you guys, Microsoft accounts get deleted after 2 years of inactivity! So make sure you log into Minecraft every 2 years or risk that having deleted too!
Wait seriously? What the heck😮
Microsoft accounts also have risk on being Nuked for no reason at all.... i lost one of my alt accounts to that.
@@gasrim Me too...
Time to connect for 2 seconds
Simple solution don't be inactive
My thing with the whole migration is it felt like I was loosing something special to me. I had my Mojang account since 2010, all the way back in the alpha stages of the game at 10 years old. That account had been with me for literally the majority of my life, more than I can say for any other online account. I realize it was in reality just 1’s and 0’s, but it felt like a part of who I was, and loosing it was like loosing an old friend in a way. I can only imagine it would be akin to loosing your childhood cartridge of a Pokémon game. Sure you can get a new copy, but it’ll never be YOUR copy.
bruh please stop typing "loosing" jesus
lose =/= loose
ffs its 2024
@@jolowikucbel1595 settle down there buster, it’s not that big a deal.
@@jolowikucbel1595 blud is saying "bruh" while trying to teach grammer 😭😭😭
As someone whose cartridge of Pokémon Black is fucked and no longer works, that analogy hit me 😢
go get a job man
I remember being at work when this was happening. I didn't have any knowledge of this migration happening since the email i used for minecraft was on my old gmail account and i haven't played Minecraft in quite a while.
I sent an email to that gmail account from my work email so that i can access the attached item i had on the email from home (company policy is we don't access our work from personal devices). So when i got home and opened that old gmail account, i saw all those remainders about the migration.
That was on September 14th, 5 days before migrations would have ended... i got lucky before i lost my minecraft account forever.
Even if i don't play it as often anymore, Minecraft is still a home for me.
I was in almost the same situation, having just a few days to spare before it wouldve been gone, just i didn't even "get" the email since i dont use the email for my mojang account anymore and was just goddamn lucky to be trying to download the game for a little nostalgia trip at that time :/
When a random youtube video announces to you that you lost your minecraft account years ago and you had no idea.
This
Then you don't need it anyway
@@lorrdy7640or maybe he had stuff do to, like military duty. Try being an adult for once.
@@lorrdy7640even if you think that being inactive for years and coming back is outrageous, why the hell are you defending microsoft? Microsoft is literally the slimiest piece of dogshit on the face of the earth
I always had in the back of my head to make a second gaming setup and show Minecraft and other nostalgic games of my childhood to my so.
You are living in a world where you don't own anything and you are happy@@lorrdy7640 Congrats happy for you live on!
Fun fact: Eula has no legal standing ground in some places, meaning you can probably sue and win against Microsoft if you know what you're doing. And I really hope some people do that.
THIS. this a secret corporate doesn't want people to unironically know, in a lot of cases you can ignore limitations imposed like this and challenge contracts. Corporations do it all the time against each other, after signing them.
Nice
Yes but this is not that place. Every single software/gaming company in the world has this.
@@hyui5096 By place I mean where you physically are, your local laws.
@@VixYW i see. Maybe in some place you are right. Thanks for clarifying
To the whole google thing:
There was also Google Stadia, which was Google's cloud gaming service. After it got shut down the users got back all money that they had ever spent on Stadia games AND Hardware. And even then the Controller was still usable with USB and got a firmware update to be able to make a bluetooth connection (although pretty slow).
Man rip stadia, it was actually good
Lost my account, simply because I didn't click a button in time. There was a lot of history on my account as well. Thanks, Microsoft.
Loved the video by the way, subbed.
Imagine playing Minecraft as a kid in 2011 and 2012 and have moved on in life to other things like college, just to come back and realize that everything was deleted because you didn’t migrate
Edit: For example, in my high school on a ceiling tile, the class of 2011 drew about Minecraft. It’s just sad to think that most of their worlds are likely gone.
Edit: Apparently there is a way to get your worlds back if you didn’t migrate, Idk how though
stop describing my life...
It's just your username. Your old worlds are not connected to it (if you even find them). You'll need to buy a new copy if you really want to play again. It's a bad move from Mojang either way and I despise it as much as any person here but I can't see what the problem is (in the sense of your username being connected to your childhood memories), especially since Mojang lets you use the name again after a certain period.
Edit
for the people asking me about servers: I meant my reply ONLY in the context of what OP said. With a 2011 account there are close to none servers from that age that are still online. Other than that it's a bad move from Mojang and if you used your account for servers, then yea, you'll lose em, which is also a disadvantage.
well, maybe you keep the singleplayer progress, but your data from servers is tied to your account, so it's lost with the account@@eulehund99
@@eulehund99”just buy a new copy”
Fuck you.
If I bought it once I should own it for goddamn ever.
That's jsut sad man
This is like you buying a stove, the manufacturer telling you that you need to add this new thing to it on a time frame and if you don't they come to your house and take the whole stove from you
You're comparing migrating an account to a whole ass stove? If they gave 3 years for the account then they prolly gave you like 9 plus years for an entire stove.
@@bldymna this doesn't matter, you pay for the thing you keep it. Even if they give you all the time in the world they have 0 right to take something you already paid for.
i agree with your sentiment but this was a bad analogy 😭
@@bldymnaIt doesn’t matter the cost. It doesn’t matter how much time they give you. They should not have the ability to take away something you bought, for any reason, full stop.
@@bldymnafound the microsoft shill sheepo
I migrated my account in time and really had no issues with any of it, personally.
Still pissed because as you explained, the way they handled the situation is blatantly anti-consumer. The fact that companies can totally abuse customers in these ways with digital goods, that “buying” something digital often means fuck all legally, it’s a complete disgrace.
The money you spent was as real as any physical cash, so why isn’t the product?
Steve vs Microsoft USA gonna look crazy on court documents.
My wife lost her Minecraft account that was over 10 years old. We recently found out when she decided to get back into the game. I looked into trying to get access to it and found we had just missed the deadline. It's kind of sad that her account is lost forever. And that we had to spend money on another account that was supposed to be a permanent license from Mojang and was purchased as such.
game licenses are *never* permanent. they can be revoked, your account banned or even deleted entirely, for any reason they deem fit. that goes for every game. you could be banned from playing every last game you have, for no reason, and youd never be able to do anything, because the EULA would mention they can do that.
@@matthewbarabas3052Yep experienced this first hand. Some companies will even make it hard to try and get access to your account again even with full proof of account ownership if you lost access or been compromised. Gotta make them buy everything again $$$. Piracy is more permanent than this lol.
@@matthewbarabas3052 Some countries are actually moving to ban the possibility of revoking software after it was paid for unless it's a contract-based system aka pay for *blank* time. This has to happen to keep stuff in check. that's like if a car company put in their agreement they could take back your car at any time if you don't drive it every single day. You just cant take peoples stuff regardless of the legality of the choice.
If you didn’t delete any files you still have the worlds from before then in your saves folder the only thing lost is the username
They can only prevent you from playing the games you bought if the games have DRM or are made to require an account to play. Just say no to DRM.
piracy is becoming more justified, one step at a time
edit: didn't expect this comment to have 4.6k likes and 69 replies
It has always been.
piracy is protesting if buying means renting
honestly, just dont use microsoft's services at all
bluds be cryin. losing acc on purpose and then whining and making video out of it AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA XDDDD
@@scoper7897 how to say you didn't get what the video said without saying that you didn't get what the video said
*What Did We Learn today?*
"Profit-driven companies do not care about our feelings."
real.
To be very honest, nobody is supposed to care about other's feelings. Because there will always be people who's feeling is that you have to die. What they ARE supposed to care about is to not abuse their powers and take away people's basic rights of ownership and legitimate expectations
To be completely honest in response, I find your reply distressing. You dont think people should care about other people's feelings, but you ARE concerned about ownership and "other legitimate rights?" I want to make sure I understood that correctly.@@Meowcat2226
Sir, you're wrong.
We've known that for years.
@@twistedtomato9792 uhm *actually* ...
That had me cracking up. One upvote to you. :)
I was lucky enough to log on occasionally and catch the whole migration thing. Though, I was so weirded out when they did the cape thing, I think I only played a couple times after I migrated my account, and then stepped away for a couple years, so when I decided to mess around with the Create mod in Minecraft, I was so surprised to find that I had a cape for having an old account.
I was in touch with Microsoft on and off for months when they announced the whole migration ordeal. I bought Minecraft in 2009 and used some school email address that has since been completely lost. I was a child when I bought the game and used a pre-paid Visa card (at least I think I did, I did not have a debit card at the time and my parents have not found any transaction with their bank leading to the purchase of my Minecraft copy). Even though I exchanged over 30 email with Microsoft their answer was simply "sorry can't help you" resulting in my main, and only, Minecraft account being completely lost.
The most insulting part is that I reached out almost right away when I heard about having to migrate accounts and had months of emailing back and forth, yet no help was provided whatsoever, and eventually the day came when I could no longer migrate my account.
It's almost as if they don't care and want you to buy the game again... nah big corporations would never
it happent to me too rip :(
Same. Lost my fav account I had back in school, so I haven't bought a new one
same happened to me now i play on tlauncher
I had the same problem. I started in 2009. I bought it in 2010. In this time I never got an email. I think I made a typo in my email or used a school email.
I did have the pay pall transaction email however in my main email. Despite this i got the same "we can not confirm your the owner" like all of us.
I decided Minecraft is Dead to me.
All my servers are useless to me now.
I thought i would buy my old account back. But just don't care to give MS money anymore. I play other things now...
Rip minecraft. It was a fun ride.
Another thing: the names taken by accounts that can no longer be accessed are still marked as taken! This means that if someone with a name you really wanted didn't migrate their account, it is now literally impossible for you to ever get that name. Good Job Microsoft
Eh, that'll filter out over time.
Good, the toddlers that buy or steal accounts with "cool" names need to take an L every now and then.
Cant wait for them to be deleted, I've been running a username sniper for months now just to get the name I want from an unmigrated account
based on what?@@DePhoegonIsle
who cares... its just a name
Thanks for doing this, actually thought about getting old mc account back but propaply after watching this there is not hope other than go to court which is just not worth it since it would cost much more than just buying new minecraft
Thank you for making this video! I very much appreciate the time and effort put into this experiment!
Patient: Woke up from a 5 year coma
What did I miss doc?
Doctor: Well for one, your Minecraft account was deleted
Patient: Goes back to coma
😂
Darn
you shouldve wrote it different, the last was shouldve been Patient: Flat lined😂
/kill
If you were in a coma for 5 fucking years, the last thing you're gonna care about is your Minecraft account. Cry about it and grow up. It's $25, you'll be fine
The thing is that the old accounts still exist. The Minecraft APIs can get you the skin and tell you that the username is taken. It's not like they've just deleted everything. They just don't want to maintain the migration process.
They had plans to free up a bunch of old usernames from old accounts that did not migrate... Clearly they didn't go through with this. It could he a number of issues.
@@REDARROW_A_PersonalI’m will to bet there’s already pending arbitration/litigation and out of an abundance of caution they’re not deleting/clearing them. That or they’re lazy. Both are likely imo.
@@REDARROW_A_Personalthat's an excuse for them.
They don't delete these account for legal reason since they are scared someone with power sues them
they only intend to produce instability in their system to create motion. the water was still, but now they're shaking it up by stealing bucketfulls of water from the pool, polluting the pool with sewage in the form of soulless updates and abusing the wildlife that seek to enjoy the pool.
@@NinoJoelah yes surely someone with power will sue microsoft a multi-billion company who got there by effectively forcing their operating system onto the vast majority of the world's computers and users, that nobody can really exactly file a complaint of them being a monopoly because hey, look there's macos, hey look there's linux, but its practically one anyways because of their proprietary apis that almost every developer have grown an overreliance with therefore leading to said developers not create versions of their software on other oses because its too much of a hassle when said apis do not exist on said other os.
I didn’t move mine because I don’t currently have a good computer so this was a good video I’m glad it popped up in my suggestions
This was quite rough for me, as my first Minecraft account was created by my dad. My dad isn't exactly the type to use electronics much, he doesn't even own a computer. He doesn't have a microsoft account and in turn couldn't migrate my first account. It sucked, it really sucked loosing my first account, Minecraft having been a massive part of my childhood.
The funniest part in all of this is that, as long as you do not accept new terms and keep away, the deletion of the account would break the law in Europe. You can sue them for doing so, and I believe it would also be a case of fraud.
i have a plan
Except that costs a lot of money and time that normal people do not have
@@16m49x3sure but it only takes one person to file the case (or a group who club together), once the case has been decided then anyone else with the same issue can claim against it.
@@16m49x3 You sure do think SalC1 is a normal human?
@@16m49x3its not about the money... its about sending a message
I had a grand mal seizure in 2019 and was stuck in hospital or bed ridden at home for 4 years after it messed with my nervous system. I have only recently been at a point in my life where I have been able to play videogames again, yet my minecraft account I had for 12 years no longer exists because I have essentially been punished for almost dying and not recovering quickly enough. 3 years was not long enough
Anti-consumer move like SalC said, and in my opinion Microsoft is basically saying buying isn't ownership with this move.
im so sorry
That’s horrible dude, I’m so sorry
I can send u a copy of Minecraft if you want ❤❤❤to
Bro just get better at living 😒
(I'm joking of course, I'm so sorry that happened to you 😔)
I didn't even know that I lost my original java account until now. really unfortunate. I'm sure we all wish we could go back to the early days of mc and just enjoy life like we used to.
i lost my childhood account that i created back in 2012.
if you grew up with this game like i did, chances are you couldn’t migrate at all because you lost the email you used to create the account and didn’t bother to keep a decade old receipt either. cool to see that you tried to escalate this!
He was just deliberately causing drama again. He knew you had to migrate, but he chose not to so he could go Karen if he lost his account. Theres a T word for that.
@@capella5783 it was an experiment to see what would happen, specifically to make sure whether what happened to OP would happen or not.
It's not a "stupid" experiment.. It was quite enlightening and shines a light on common malicious practices in the gaming industry these days. The future of gaming is unfortunately not ownership of these games, its licensing the right to use them until the company decides to pull the plug.
And if buying isnt ownership, piracy isnt thef~
Why just copy the top comment but worse@@core3gamegd587?
It's always been a license to the right to use them since games existed. You never owned the rights to the game. But yes, this is still BS.
When you buy a game digitally you're not actually buying the game but a license to play the game that can be revoked at any time by the license issuer. This is Clearly stated in the TOS on every storefront from steam to the Nintendo e shop.
If you don't like the terms of service then don't buy digital games. It's like going to a restaurant and complaining that they won't allow you to take the food home when there's a big sign that states " NO TAKEHOME ALLOWED, SIGN THIS LETTER SAYING YOUVE READ THIS SIGN AND AGREE WITH THIS POLICY BEFORE ENTERING"
I don't like it either but that's just how it is, there's nothing you or I can ever do about it either and complaining about it won't solve the issue. The guy that made this video is the exception since he makes money complaining but for the average Joe it's a fruitless endeavor
@@KrolKazthat is not true. On GOG (for example) you actually buy the actual game installer file without DRM, meaning that as long as you're able to store the file somewhere you're the owner of your copy of the game, even if GOG ends their services.
Just as an FYI if you bought Minecraft a long time ago the license for it was that you owned the game, not just a license to play the game, which means Microsoft are violating your rights by deleting your account with no compensation.
Very true, GhostedByMojang covers this exact problem, they don't care about our rights lol.
lets go and lawer them!
great then start a class action lawsuit
@@m6isme America doesn't have any consumer rights laws that apply to online products (YET), legislation will need to be passed for games to be treated as property but the populous is well and truly distracted as of late so I don't think any progress will be made to our laws. As it currently stands, this theft is completely legal in America, you can sell a online product and take it back as many times as you want with zero risk. Morally speaking this is evil and it SHOULD be illegal, but it currently isn't. That's a problem. But you don't want to hear this from me, you were defending Microsoft in another comment.
That ^
I clicked on this out of curiosity, having almost forgot that I nearly lost my own account due to not having played in so long.
I didn't get any email notices about all this stuff because I actually bought the game back in the alpha days, and I don't even know if the accounts were tied to an email address back then (and if they were, I sure wasn't using my current one).
I only heard about the migration stuff through the grapevine and decided even if I didn't play it would still be a good idea to make sure I retained access.
i had issues merging, and now i somehow have two emails connected with the same account-makes it absolute hell to sign into, and it wont let me fix it so!! wonderful!!!
This happened to me last week.
- Bought the game in the beta days and went to Minecon 2012 so I had a nice pickaxe cape.
- Stopped played around 2014
- Recently watched a few MC videos and got excited by 10 years of biome and block updates.
- Found out my unique account was deleted and there was no way to get it back. Simply because Microsoft decided to not keep the data more than 3 years.
I still have the original receipt which proves I bought and paid for the game and yet I can't even get a brand new account.
Tbh we should file a class action lawsuit against them for this. There were people who were unable to during 3 years for good reasons, people in service, people who had temporarily lost account access, people in friggen comas woke up to losing their account on top of missing years of their life, and on top of this, the nametag is still taken even if the account is inaccessible now so they can't even buy a new license and still go with their username. Pretty easy to just keep a list of the old usernames, and then offer support until the last one is gone, they'd just train AN employee or so to be able to append the new account, and strike off that name, until the last one was marked. I call laziness/foul; play.
Oh gosh!!
Exact same thing happened to me. Last played it in 2021, decided to play this year. Can't even access the thing I paid for. Why even is this? So microsoft can farm data analytics from all their players, not just ones on bedrock?
the best part about living in brazil is that anything that restrict legal rights of the consumer in terms of agreement and EULAs in general is completely void and invalidated. a company does not have the power to override a constitutional right here. so if this happens to me, i can sue just fine, regardless of what is written on their contract
that is sad
As soon as Minecraft went from Indie to corporate, everybody should have known it was going to go downhill.
If we crowdfund a couple billion we could buy minecraft back and make it open source
that is sadly not gonna happen@@CopyrightStruck
i like the cherry blossom wood
@@CopyrightStruck i don't think you get how much a billion is. anyone with the kind of money to make that happen is probably a microsoft droid.
I remember all the 2014 animations of famous youtubers minecraft avatars beating up notch and bill gates and i thought they were going too far
I always stop playing a few years and come back. Thankfully, I knew about the migration, but I'd I hadn't there's a very real possibility I would never notice for years till I go to relive some nostalgia again.
A couple months ago I started to record Minecraft (Around 5 months ago you can check my yt) and had hopes of recording with online friends. After 3 or 4 months afterwards Microsoft logged me out of my account and on march 24 2024 my account got achieved (my friends checked daily and suddenly that day I got 20dms out of thin air. I'm thankful they did). I had the Minecraft launcher not in the video but the one made my Microsoft. Now I'm trying to fix the mess and whenever I would ask Microsoft for help they would either tell me to call them or check there page for the 11TH TIME. I just want my online friends back from hypixel and I don't really care now about the bedwars levels(its a shame tho :( ). Just keep the migration forever it's not that hard
ps: the account was from 2017, thanks for reading this
i would’ve been pretty okay with this IF they left the Migration open forever. Then if someone didn’t follow it AT ALL for years, it would’ve been still possible to OWN the game
It's not just Microsoft that do this, other companies such as Sony have the same practice when it comes to having digital copies. When you own something digitally, you don't really own it, you own a licence to use it and that licence can be taken depending on the terms of use you agreed to. Physical copies, while slightly inconvenient and damageable, can't be taken away, Bill Gates would have to come pry it from your cold, dead hands.
@@badphysiotdx2395 Um... i havent seen ANYTHING sony does that is anywhere close to this. Microsoft literally took away your purchased product with a account transfer window, which under the original (CONTRACTUALLY BINDING) purchase agreements, gave no mention of said migration period or change to the EULA.
Legally, this is beyond scummy.
Yeah I missed the time frame because I could no longer get into the migration due to them changing to Microsoft.
Happened to me.
@@badphysiotdx2395while you think that physical copies are better in that way, in reality its the exact same. your license to play the game is limiting your ability to join servers, which can be revoked all the same with physical copies. (they use the same license system)
This is like HP remotely deactivating your printer because you no longer pay the ink subscription. Oh wait, they actually do that...
And Roku deactivating your TV until you agree to their no class action lawsuits EULA update, and Amazon disabling every device in your home because someone claimed you said a slur outside, and having your baby monitor which you paid $400 later being deactivated until you start paying a monthly subscription, and Ubisoft deactivating The Crew, a game that can be played offline, rendering every single sold disc as worthless plastic. This is the world we live in now. We need people to make noise about this.
"You wouldn't rent a printer" [in iconic anti-piracy font/theme]
HP ink subscription is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It's so typical "hey consumer this subscription is sooooo convenient for you! (as long as you pay)". And apparently there are enough consumers that fall for it.
Just get a laser printer that doesn't dry out and the toner is super cheap.
@user0000user I recently bought a printer from HP because I am very satified w/their laptops.
I then read the reviews and the generalized hate against Instant Ink. I'm not sure I wanna follow the hate train on Instant Ink because I do think it is worth it for a category of people (generally the category of people who print enough to need ink but not enough to justify getting a color laser) but I do get how some of their business practices are shitty
Get an ink tank printer! It doesn't know or care what kind of ink you put in it, and refill bottles are much cheaper than any proprietary cartridge. Laser printers are great too, if you only need to print in black & white.
I had a Minecraft account from ether 2011 or 2013 that I completely forgot about! It was my first ever account and I had a map I had consistently worked on until probably 2018. Now it’s gone forever… so many things gone… my dogs… my horses… my cats… my town… my roller coasters… so so much more… gone forever… 😢
your (singleplayer only, not sure about servers) world files will still work, only if you buy the game again though.
Interesting video. I also have/had a very old account (I got it as a birthday gift as a child, my dad would give me a "coupon" and I think we then registered it together) and "missed" the migration (I didn't realize it was to Microsoft accounts, I think there was already some similar migration before?) because I did not play Minecraft for some years due to loss of interest, partially also because of the changes introduced when Microsoft stepped in. One or two years ago I figured it would be interesting to see if I could recover it - the login options on the website all would not work. I sent them an email but never heard back. :-(
If buying doesn't imply ownership, piracy isn't theft.
Edit: A lot of people are misunderstanding.
I'm not against Intellectual property.
I'm against services that sell you stuff, but then remove it if they cease to hold the rights to distribute it anymore.
Like. If I bought a movie on a platform 5 years ago, that movie should stay in my library. Of course it makes sense for the service not to sell that movie anymore, but I shouldn't lose what I already paid for unless offered a refund.
This is getting stupid.
piracy is copyright infringement not theft
buying is owning not renting
@@Hidde_ not to corporations.
@@cherubin7th nuh uhh
copyright infringment is stealing media and repurposing it in any comercial environment, so piracy is completely ethical 🤓🤓
@@cherubin7th Copyright infringement fall under the definition of theft, you are stealing an idea or property that belongs to someone else
A quick Google search shows that Microsoft mishandled this process in so many ways, for example one customer posted a screenshot of the launcher post-migration where they could only play the Minecraft demo.
they probably got ignored when they migrated
I have a bugged account too. It split up into two accounts. Every time i log in i have to choose a username. Then that becomes a new account. If i skip choosing username, i have my old account. But the account that changes name keeps the uuid somehow
@@NubeBuster IVE HAD THE SAME THING!!! on many accounts ive tried buying like 4 different accounts but all of them have been deleting or split between "xbox" and "microsoft" logins are setting usernames and such absolutely evil. but what the megacorp wants the megacorp gets
Oh wow, I didnt even know about this migration thing. I bought minecraft with an email I no longer have access to and havent played in many years.
Guess my copy is gone now as well.
Dude. I got this game when I was 10. Got it for my birthday. I had to use my brother's Email address in order to make an account because I was to young to have my own Email (my parents were waiting until I was old enough. I know. Weird. But I kind of understand nowadays). Problem is, my brother used his Email as well for HIS own Minecraft account. Therefore, when Microsoft migrated, he migrated his account, therefore making me lose my original account because I was using his Email. I ended up having to buy the game again, which was really unfair.
yeah its really disgusting what they did. lost an old account from 2011 with all my progress on every server because I didn't play during COVID and was busy with other things. I just find it to be an incredible example business malpractice. unbelievable.
keep up with news and you wouldnt have lost the account
I've also lost my account from 2011 man, got me real mad.
@@nevan2201mojangs #1 meatrider hop off
i mean they sent over 50 emails reminding ppl soo
@@Superby25Jup, never saw a single one of these lol. Btw don't know if you actually watched the video, but the example with Google and CZcams Account Migration still working shows how shitty Microsoft is. Don't know why you need to be gaslighting people
as someone who took a 4 year break from games due to university, this is something that really made me sad.
I lost my 3 accounts and buying 1 back is only 27-30 euro or whatever, but the saves, memories with usernames, progress on servers like hypixel were all gone. thats rough
Talking about usernames, you can register new account with your lost username, if it still not claimed. This should allow your new account to be logged in servers as your old account.
@@BestHakase servers do not register you under your username, rather, an account ID. Sniping back your username will not be sniping back your server progress.
@@BestHakaseaccounts are registered by username in only cracked servers where ofc usernames mean nothing
Good news: Your progress on those servers was gone over 3 years ago, if not the full four. You lost the names and the money.
@@eludee119 you can always tell them to transfer your data over, they will usually do it (I"m talking about the servers)
Yeah this experience was definitely tough on others I hope Microsoft really changes this. So many other accounts lost.
This has been the case ever since digital distribution became normalized. The only games you can actually "own" through online retailers are completely offline games. And that means that you can't delete your copy if it ever gets taken off the store or your rights to it are revoked. Even buying physical copies nowadays is just a means of authenticating your license for the game
There's no question that they were looking forward to the extra purchases that would happen when people were locked out of their account.
The pennies they would make from that means nothing to them, likely they don't want to support old and outdated systems and want to move everything over to 1 uniform system
There’s a lot of reasons accounts needed to be migrated. I have no clue what Mojangs infrastructure was at the time but I guarantee it wasn’t as secure or stable as Microsoft’s
@@ftgodlygoose4718 Secure? What's the point of security for a game account? It's not like you're storing your social security number in your account data. Now your Minecraft account is connected to your Microsoft account, which actually DOES have sensitive data attached to it, so security is more of a concern than before. Compartmentalization is the key to security, NOT connections. Microsoft is blatantly lying to you if they say they're connecting Minecraft to Microsoft for security.
And "stability" isn't really quantifiable, I seriously doubt that Microsoft had reason to believe there were stability issues with Mojang accounts. If there were, they could have gone the infinitely more hassle-free route of just fixing the stability issues.
@@ftgodlygoose4718 Microsoft recently got 'hacked' when they left a testing admin account active. Is that what you meant when you said "secure"?
@@ftgodlygoose4718Doesnt matter, just keep the migration open indefinetely.
This happened to my OG account from 2011. I contacted the support team about a month before the final deadline of the migration period.
The support team responded 1 week after my initial ticket and said that they are willing to help me. I send over as much information that I could. They never responded until 3 weeks AFTER (4 weeks since the initial ticket). They responded after the migration period and basically said "Sorry, there's nothing we can do. But we can offer u a new copy of minecraft within 90 days".
What ticked me off was the false hope of them attempting to help me - but they respond AFTER the migration period ends?
@@DecidiousGreens "I send over as much information that I could" sounds like he didnt have acces to it
@@rogoznicafc9672 thanks I guess
@@rogoznicafc9672 I had the login and pass to the mc account, but I did not remember the password of the yahoo email (bare in mind I made this back in 2011 when I was a kid).
I did have the transaction id, and I even made youtube videos with that old account (I was one of those kids LOL). I sent all that info over and still no response until after the migration period ended.
Before anyone asks, yes I tried retrieving the yahoo email back. The support for Yahoo said they can't help me with old inactive accounts anymore.
Mate I had the same problem lmao, I gave them everything they asked for and we were going back and forth for over 6 months
@@rogoznicafc9672 to be fair, you need the id of purchase, if you don't have that ur cooked.
I tend to have a phase or playing MC every 1-2 years. I guess I’m lucky that I kept coming back just barely regularly enough to migrate. I’d be so frustrated if I decided one day to go back but the account was gone. I’m so sorry for everyone whom that has happened to.
Im pretty sure ive lost mine forever. Ive never really had intention to revisit it after 2016 or so. but seeing my old worlds wouldve been nostalogic at a passing glance
My father bought me Minecraft back in the day, so it was under his Email. When I had to migrate, I wanted to change the email first.
This could only be done by redirecting you to a page which has now become the migration page.
"Fine, I'll migrate my account, then change my email." I thought. Except you can't do that anymore after you migrated.
So now, Microsoft is constantly complaining that my Minecraft account's email doesn't align with my PC's Microsoft account and there is no way to change it.
This is so customer unfriendly I can't believe it.
Protip: reinstall windows and do not use a microsoft account to use windows, just take the "local account" option. You don't need onedrive or any of the other crap they try to sell you on, there are better methods. I mean, the real protip is to rid your hardware of windows permanently; but you know, baby steps.
I signed into xbox and it turned my local account into a Microsoft acc for my pc
@@WeatherMan2005Yikes
@@NormalPersonCommenting You need a microsoft account for windows 11. Windows 10 is losing support in 2025 for security updates... gotta love microsoft!!!
"Reinstall Windows" being a "solution" to not being able to change an email on an account is absolutely wild.@@NormalPersonCommenting
Their automated corporate response was so wild. You did stuff legally, sent them an official letter and they were still like "throw it in a bin"
That's how corporations work dummy
sad
I mean what do you want them to do tho? He sent them a letter literally saying "I purposefully ignored all your heads up and warnings and agreed to all terms and services, gimme game or money". Like it's kind of a no brainer situation and they dont owe him anything
@@nerd_world8919 it's not that simple, some people's emails they used to purchase the game are long gone, especially the older accounts, leaving such people with no option other than to buy the game again. or some people just haven't logged into their old old e-mail in ages and they were not aware of the migration but lets say decided to come back to the game after a decade or so only to get met with a screen telling them basically "sucks to suck buy a new copy"
@@nerd_world8919Microsoft doesnt know that he read and ignored all emails. He himself said that maybe he could have been interested in other stuff and wasnt interested in minecraft for a while. You can’t expect people to follow all news for something that you don’t even use. Imagine you didn’t play minecraft for a couple years and when you get the urge to play, you learn that your account that you bought with real money is unusable.
Something similar happened back when 1.6 came out. We had to migrate our accounts back then and get a new launcher for minecraft, I ended up having to buy the game again and as a kid having to explain to your parents why you can’t play the game they paid for was very frustrating. I've bought Minecraft maybe 5 times now and my old accounts are all locked off for some reason.
This reminds me of a problem I had with Microsoft myself. it didn't have to do with migration, but it was during migration time-
I had stopped playing minecraft for about a year and when I heard of migration and such, I decided that I would migrate my old account, I had played on it at one point recently- but it was still during my hiatus.
Now- I had forgotten my password to my account, simple enough, ill just reset it right? wrong, before I had forgotten my password, there was an incident were I accidentally set the birthday on the connected email too low, causing the email to thus be terminated-
this was hurtful at the time but when I realized I couldn't recover my Minecraft account to migrate, I was DEVESTATED-
As a kid I was super hyped for the free cape, its something I'd always wanted as a player- i tried reaching out to Mojang/Microsoft about the issue on my current email, showing them as much evidence of that I lost the connected email as I could, but no matter what, I just got a bot reply saying I wasn't the original email, therefore they couldn't assist me with anything relating to the account.
I'm still mad at Microsoft for not giving me a genuine person to assist with this very simple flaw, that absolutely devastated kid me at the time.
This is why I enjoy physical copies, and steam support, you own them, or you get actual people to help you
steam also has the right to revoke your licence to play a game unfortunately
If buying isn't owning, then sailing the seven seas isn't stealing
It never is, its copyright infringement
Buying isn’t owning it. Nope. You don’t own the game to the point you can decide whatever, you are only given permission to play it.
you SHOULD own a copy of the game. and be able to do whatever you want with that copy.@@beedslolkuntus2070
@@beedslolkuntus2070 exactly, piracy isnt stealing either
You gonna pirate the login servers? Good luck playing online!
Escalate this further.
I have never failed to get my money back from a giant corporation if i get indignant enough.
At a certain point, having to pay the salary of the people telling you "no" costs more than just giving you the refund.
Do it, not for the $26, but to spite them. Fuck Microsoft.
How do you escalate it further?
We’re all together in this shit😔 Let us know if you manage to get the account or money back, please. And if so, tell us how😭
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh
@@arvalb0 Sue them. I bet notch would be happy to fund it...
@@rosee8140I guarentee he wouldn't. Notch does not care about what microsoft is doing with minecraft, and has has expressed no signficant negative feelings towards microsoft. he's also not the type of billionaire to go around giving people money on a whim.
I remember first playing Minecraft on the demo version of Classic, quite some time ago. Suffice it to say I had a Mojang account well before the acquisition. I hadn't touched it for awhile, but at one point a couple years ago, I wanted to see what modern Minecraft was like. At first I didn't realize that the old accounts were completely separate and unusable, but once I did, I tried transitioning to a Microsoft one. The signup process was legitimately the most buggy, terrible thing, and I ran into more issues and frustration than I did for something easy, like installing Arch Linux. At the end, after feeding Microsoft a minimal-but-still-too-much amount of info, I was left with a useless account. While I wouldn't expect to be able to play the last few years of updates, at the very least, Microsoft should have a download portal where Mojang accounts can fetch reasonable versions of the game. A company shouldn't be able to acquire something and simply shrug off responsibilities.
Yo dude, it's cool that you did this experiment. It's crazy and sick.
The CZcams Legacy account migration to Google still being available is wild. The fact that Microsoft just erased those unmigrated accounts is really unfair.
Yeah its not a situation of "this is impossible for us to do" its a situation of "we do not care enough about our customers to support this"
although is there any need to migrate it? I migrated because I wanted to get new handle/nickname but honestly up until recently I was using my old youtube legacy account and never had any problems related with it.
@@TheRealTonie it’s less about the need to do so and more about the respect of the customer. If one person wants their account migrated they can still do that, because that is good for the consumer, and CZcams values that. Something Microsoft dosent do.
@@moustashguy5315 except, youtube never put -much- any effort into advertising that there's any migration and what for. I actually was baffled why I can't change the nickname or the handles and it was weird to me.
I didn't know what it meant "legacy youtube account" I just thought they already did that ages ago since it was under my email anyway. Turns out, they didn't.
Meanwhile about the migration with the minecraft, I even saw some news articles warning about it before it happened and true I wanted to migrate immediately since I was a bit anxious about missing it.
There were emails coming too and when it did I migrated.
Now tell me, how microsoft can figure out which old email adress can be paired to which microsoft email adress? Should they let people migrate endlessly? When old email accounts are being hacked daily, it's a matter of time before somebody digs through some old email accounts whose owners didn't bother to put on double authentication nor any decent password and migrate his account away from him. Or just a mojang account that only had a weak password for it.
I know that it is about "ownership rights" but hypothetically let's say minecraft didn't sell and it bankrupted. Would you still be the owner of your game copy, if its confirmation is stored online on some server that has its costs? For how long exactly?
You weren't given a serial number unique to your game copy so you can retrieve it later. The only thing is your old adress email and who knows if it's active since you ignored that email.
Minecraft began to be a big game which people want to buy, stealing an account especially if it holds unique capes or even the new capes like all old accounts now do will be even more valuable.
It'd be nice of microsoft if they finally collected enough of people waking up now and finally said _"ok that's enough of late sleepers waking up, let's refund them"_ but dunno if that will ever happen since it's bad bussiness for big corporation.
I don't want to defend them, but I can't help but understand them a little.
Google can theoretically keep making money by keeping legacy YT accounts active, since they still earn the ad revenue for any views of existing videos. The impact to their reputation for removing that much history from a public-facing forum would be significant too (not that that’s stopped companies in the past lol). Unfortunately, Microsoft refusing to give back old Minecraft accounts is just not as risky a move for them.
The fun part was that during the migration period, unfixable errors were common and migration was impossible to complete.
Friend I gifted a key to back in alpha had that happen to him. Support would do anything unless he had the "transaction id", which wasn't a think for alpha and part of beta. It took both of us filling tickets to get escalated to somebody that knew gift keys were a thing, but then they required the key itself. Something that was used once back in alpha. Used to be able to look those up on the Mojang account page, but MS liked that prior to MS account support, so I couldn't get it there. Support couldn't get me my key list even with my transaction id for the key purchases and friend couldn't use that to recover his. I had to resort to pulling the hard drive out of the old PC I used at the time, pulling the Skype profile database into a log viewer, and thankfully finding the message where I sent him the key.
MS tends to ruin everything they touch.
HOLY SHIT. That's CSI shit to keep hold of your minecraft account. Good job.
well look at the bright side, you got a slightly cool and very niche story out of it
@@grqfesI work in IT. The sad part is that is not even in the top 10 for annoying account recoveries.
As far as stupid personal ones though: proving I bought some virtual temporary slickers over 10 years prior, then doing that for 3 more accounts, is gonna be up there.
They ruin things on purpose, too.
@@grqfes "One of the largest corporations in the world tries to cheat him out of his Minecraft account" is neither cool, nor niche; it's just like all the billions of other "large corporation tries to fuck over its users" stories.
I personally loved the microsoft account thing cuz now with one email, i can log into muplie games!! Usually i had to do something seprate for mojang but now its a bit easier😊
This is not the worst part, last year before the migrations concluded. I tried logging in to my account after years of inactivity. I got the game in beta as a gift when I was very young and have always signed in with a username. Never was an issue before. At that point only an email was an option at signing in.
Well I for sure do not remember the date of when I purchased it nor do I know the email connected to the account, which they required, so I never got the account back and I will never have the option to get it back now.
I used to play on a legacy account. It was impossible to migrate it because we didn't have the original email, and couldn't change the email because we lost the original receipt. I have a modern account now, but I still feel bad knowing that thing is gone forever.
Netvirus101, i miss ya man.
amen
same situation, lil bit different about the ownership but same
I had a legacy account (2012) and couldn't migrate due to email address being deleted and no transaction id, so sad that they wont allow any other proof of ownership, it was better back in the day when we could get it back with verifying email pass (if u had t-id) and some pics of the account.
same man. Dad's old email is inactive, and took the transaction ID with it. RIP _lord_hades
Same for me, they just robbed us and didn't provide any help in my case
I've seen this happen a lot with MMOs.
They get bought by some company some year and you have to migrate your account during a relatively small period or you lose your access, which in MMOs is huge
? Mojang gave people months to migrate did they not?
Watched the ending and read a few comments. Yeah, this was scummy on MS'd end
@@flamedramon68three years or something?
He had 3-4 years to do it, he didn't to make content
you had over 3 years of constant reminders, how is that a "relatively small period", it's your fault and only your fault if you didn't migrate
@@flamedramon68 i couldn't migrate because i had lost access to the email but could still login. but after the migration i got fucked
With the controversy around Ubisoft shutting down The Crew, governments *MIGHT* outlaw selling games designed to be stolen back from consumers who paid for them (it’s way to early to tell if they’ll do that, but it’s still a possibility) Should that happen, you could use it as an opportunity to get access to your account restored by Microsoft.
I really gotta get around to acquiring all the old versions Minecraft and relevant server files. I've been acquiring alternative copies for games I've legally purchased for a while now. The turning point for me was a couple of my steam games now forcing me to run through secondary launchers to play them when I didn't have to before, in one case breaking the game. Even the companies like Valve that have mostly retained good will from consumers are taking a very concerning approach to digital ownership, and if my games aren't going to be legally protected It's important to me to protect myself from my games being stolen.
I lost my 9 year old minecraft account because I lost access to the email associated with it until a few months after it got deleted by Mojang. I had so much stuff on so many servers. Ranks, bases, friends, etc. Lost all of it. Thank you Microsoft.
I am sorry for the friends that you have lost
what happened to personal responsibility?
@@ericsombody8912 If the account was 9 years old they were likely still a kid when they made the old email. They probably couldn't remember the password that they made because they didn't fully understand it at the time. I had a few emails just like that.
>ranks
punishment from God.
@@apunishedmannamed2473There are servers that let you rank up free you know?
Thank you for making this video. My grandfather bought me my first Minecraft account years ago. He ended up passing away in 2020 and had his email only logged in on his old pc. Needless to say, I was very attached to that account as in my mind that was the best present he had ever gotten me. I ended up having to get on his computer just to not lose an account which he paid for, it was very emotional. I appreciate someone bringing this issue to light, thank you
This is exactly what happened to me and my siblings with my Grandma, we lost 3 accounts to the migration all bought by her when we were kids.. I feel your pain man
yes, I started my 2 degree during that time of lockdown = 1 account lost for not migration. Thank you for the video
I haven’t kept up with minecraft at all in the past few years coincidentally, and just checked through my email and have not received a single notice about this migration. Thank you for making this experiment. Don’t think I’m gonna be "buying" this game again
I haven’t kept up with minecraft at all in the past few years coincidentally, and just checked through my email and have not received a single notice about this migration. Thank you for making this experiment. Don’t think I’m gonna be "buying" this game again
I am infertile from eating scented candles. The
lets get this to the top boys!
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Me too
Don’t check his community posts😭
A friend of mine died back in 2017. He absolutely loved Minecraft and that was his main game. Absolutely horrible to see that another part of him was killed.
@@SkyFWWO ,,, What the fuck, this is why everyone hates furries.
Well that’s a bit dramatic
@@SkyFWWOfucked up but effective bait comment
@@SkyFWWOnumber 20 frog in a frozen vegetable bag
@@SkyFWWOyeah you just shouldn’t joke about that topic. Especially if the "joke" isn’t even funny
I used to play minecraft religiously, but lost interest a few years ago. One day about a week ago i decided to get back into it and realized i was locked out and a migration happened that i had never heard of. so sad
I don't understand how Microsoft can do this. It was a promise to us original players, I bought the game when it was in alpha.
There was also recently a post on reddit where someone had their Microsoft account (with a *migrated* MC account linked) closed for inactivity - account gone, minecraft as well
so no, you apparently can't safely ghost this game for a while.
FFS so something else they are now doing... I hardly play Minecraft on my OG Account (Before you could change the name) and very little on my new account (I got before the migration).
If I loose that OG one I will flip.
ooof
Stupid corpo crap. So now if I want to keep something inactive for long periods of time I have to have yearly/monthly reminder to log there once. I understand the companies, but... why does it have to keep so much data anyway? If they didn't, the cost would not be an issue.
Do I hear a "Class Action Lawsuit"...?
do I hear a "1 Million dollars Compensation for the victims involved"...?
Oh nvm. I heard "case dismissed. mojang has not been found guilty."
aint a single person alive with enough money to sue microsoft that will willingly go to war over 30$ not happening unfortunately
@@townfuneral4564 elon musk 😂
"we have investigated ourselves and found ourselves not guilty."@@A_G0OGLE_user
This is true thievery. I was never contacted once to migrate and was away from Minecraft for a while and didn't know about this migration. I refuse to pay them a penny more. I even bought both JE and BR separately before the change. Microsoft slapped me in the face and called me a sucker for thinking I owned something that I didn't have a physical copy of. They just lost one of their last defenders.
This happened to me the account was on one of my parents old emails. since when I bought the game in 2012 I was 8 years old and couldn’t have an email myself, because of this I never saw any of the emails telling me I to migrate and generally I hadn’t kept up with the game past 2020 so I didn’t even know the migrations were happening, and when I went to try and login earlier this year it said my account was deleted and I couldn’t recover it. Its a real shame
My little sister lost her account like this. Dad wouldn't have known, i didn't keep an eye on her stuff and pooof. Disappeared.
Oh that sucks...that's really a dark practice
My mom bought me my account when Minecraft was in Alpha and I don’t even know if they sent out codes to confirm it at that point. I got the notice that I had to migrate my account and realized that the old email we had attached to it was no longer active, and I was told I had to buy a new copy to play the game I supported in it’s infancy. I’m in my 20s now, so it wouldn’t be surprising to hear this happening to many others too. It really is just a slap in the face to those who made Minecraft what it is now.
Literally the same thing here bro, that email is long gone along with my original acct
Even worse, if you still have your email, but don't know it they won't give you any hint of what it is, not even a letter.
They'd let me change my email if I had a transaction id.
For a game I bought in 2012.
PayPal doesn't keep transaction ids for longer then 10 years for security. Naturally
Same exact thing happened to me. I went through all of their recovery methods and tips, but all I was doing was just delaying the inevitability of repaying for the game I already bought years ago. It felt like such a betrayal.
Uhh i was able to migrate with a dead email, tho i think it was more of a “hey this is my acc, i no longer have access to it nor the receipt but i have proof the email was mine”
Okay but you had literal years worth of gameplay and got your like 30 bucks worth...just buy it again. You'd have similar issues in any other game where you tried to login but failed because you legit dont have access to the email.
I'm actually devastated by this, man. Tried migrating my account and ran into error after error. It was such frustrating process. I ended up unable to migrate my account in the end. All those countless years of memories and progress are gone now.
i just never really got around to it but then discovered I’d lost my minecon 2013 and 2016 capes when I didn’t migrate it in time…😔
I find it pretty ridiculous that Microsoft couldn't just leave open the "Migrating an account" option so that people who've bought the game years prior could still connect and play again if they wanted to, without being forced to migrate within a timeframe or buy a new account. I'm also amazed that it isn't illegal to, in a way, "rob" players of their product they had already paid for. Even with the excuse of "Well, they had 2-3 years," it still doesn't justify their attitude towards old Minecraft accounts. In my opinion, if they didn't want to leave open the option to migrate an account, they should still be legally obligated to refund any and all users who didn't migrate their account. If it didn't cost so much money and you weren't fighting a multi-billion-dollar company, you should sue Microsoft for essentially robbing paying customers. It's just not right.
If you bought in beta technically it is illegal, because the original purchase page said the account would last forever, for free.
It's all about exploitation of legal loopholes and bribing. That's the only way Microsoft is able to do this.
Take up piracy at this point. If they want to rob us, then we have full clearance to take what we want from them.
This is because under any company, when you buy a game, you are never buying a game. You are "renting it". If you break their rules (or not) they have the right to stop their service. That is just how all digital services worked.
@@hyui5096 Well I haven't seen a digital service this ignorant lol
@@hyui5096 if buying isnt owning then piracy isnt theft. fuck that.
I don’t mind the migration. But I don’t think they shouldn’t have ended the migration period. That should always be an option for old Mojang accounts until every mojang account has been migrated or a ridiculous amount of time has passed, like 20+ years.
mhm. why put a deadline
@@flufferpants4812 so they can force people who didn't migrate to buy the game again
Imagine losing all your memorybon a qcc you had
Imagine losing all your memory on a acc you had 🌌
Fun Fact: I created a Mojang account - but didn't buy the game at that point. It was after the announcement but before accounts could already be migrated. I did create the account in hopes to get the migration cape - nowhere, in any blog post, tos, news article or announcements did they state that accounts required ownership of the game to be able to migrate.
Well, turns out you couldn't migrate an account without the game on it - they simply deleted the account. Even after going back and forth with support - and it took over a week for them to even find out that the account was delete (they simply didn't account for accounts that didn't own the game) - nothing could be done. I missed out on the cape and the chance to get it has passed forever.
I migrated my main account some 2 years prior to the deadline without any real urgency or even real awareness of there was a deadline. I didn't think much about it.
But I also had 3 accounts that I purchased for my kids, who played with them for a few years before they got into high school and basically abandoned them. Now my kids are grown and they are like, "Hey, didn't I own a Minecraft copy?" And then I went and looked and found this whole "It's too late thing. You have to repurchase the account."
And that's how Microsoft managed to convince me to learn python and no longer promote Azure cloud technology to my clients.
Wow, I guess the phrase "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" can apply to even this...
Unintentionally did this using a modified version of 1.19 Java designed for mod development
Can't own a game, just the license. Can't pirate something reproducible, so pirate away.
@@hobogrifter I mean the fact it's reproducible is why it's piracy. The problem *is* the reproducibility.
Piracy was never stealing, it's always been copyright infringement when talking about digital assets
I appreciate that your main takeaway is "they're allowed to force migration, but it's the time limit that's the problem"
It's only kinda not cool to force account migration but it's downright evil to force it within a time limit
They are not allowed to force migration on early adopter customers. The rest of the customers are still entitled to an opportunity to read and respond if this is an EULA policy change. As far as we can tell, Mojang did not establish a contractual obligation to "migrate OR ELSE" prior to initiating this plan, but if you have evidence to the contrary please provide it. Customers are entitled to what they paid for and if Mojang wants to push changes the legal standard is legal notice. You can't usurp a contract by proposing changes and not having the other party informed. Sending an email does not meet the burden of proof. Further, you also had customers who were not even sent emails. Mojang never gave itself authority to impose time sensitive consequences from EULA.
thats the thing they should be sued for, the time limit
I got very lucky that I decided to play minecraft after years of not playing within the migration period. My account was tied to an email I also have not checked for years so I had no idea the migration was happening.
@@peppermintpig974 What exactly are you hoping for? "Doesn't mean the burden of proof", pfft. Sure, one email might not justify it. But multiple emails, and public disclosure - repeatedly - for years leading up to it... what more are you expecting from them?
Don't quote me on these figures, but apparently Java has sold ~30 million times whilst a total of ~300 million Minecraft copies have been sold... Even just using the smaller figure of 30 million, what is a reasonable effort on their part? Letters in the real world? In-person communication? A lawyer showing up at 30 million doors? (Admittedly there'd be some people with multiple accounts, so less than that)
"Oh but I haven't played in years." Well, then, shell out another $40 for what is effectively endless entertainment, limited only by your imagination and ability to mod. If you spend 2 hours, that's $20 an hour for entertainment, and probably ends up cheaper than the cinema. But, of course, you could end up spending 2000 hours which brings that down considerably... to 2 cents per "hour of entertainment". Or, maybe, it's just not a game you enjoyed and you had little to no intention of returning.
Maybe it's the old builds and worlds you've lost. I feel for you, I do. It's tragic... but time passes, the present is already over, and memories fade. Rebuild, or don't. Doesn't matter either way.
love the example of youtube and google at the end, I didnt know that
I was never informed about account migration and lost a 15 year old account. Couldn't be more upset about this.