Atlas vs. Optimus: Boston Dynamics & Tesla's Humanoid Robots
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2024
- Boston Dynamics has announced their new and improved Atlas robot, the next step in commercializing their humanoid robot development. We analyze how it compares to Tesla's Optimus robot.
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Boston dynamics has been building and researching robots longer than Tesla has been a company. My money is on Boston dynamics...
The software will determine who wins. The robot that is easy to train. Neural network powered. When Tesla introduced Optimus it must have caused a earthquake at Boston Dynamics. So Hyundai created the Boston Dynamics AI Institute. It has offices in Zurich and Boston. At least one of these offices is not up and running because they have openings for what looks like all the Key positions. I would not call this one.
And tesla surpassing all the longer building car companies too LOL…and rockets? And what else LOL
Ohh the Elon fanboys always make me laugh! You do all realize he's not a engineer or a scientist right?! He is just a businessman. And he didn't start any of these companies. He bought them.. He makes lots of mistakes like everyone else. And now has one of the largest $150,000 flops, the cyber truck which he spent over five years and millions on trying to make! Don't forget boring tunneling company which is pretty much a waste of money and hasn't done anything . ohh yeah and also overpaid for a social network by $20 billion that runs in the red every year.. And has now decided not to make a affordable electric car, but now wants to make robo taxis. The problem with Elon is he's all over the place and he thinks he's got the best ideas. He's got some good ideas, but not always the best. And that's why his market share is dropping.. People are starting to see him for who he really is..
I'll take the fact that Elon is kinda a scam artist at this point with more product failures than success, and multiple lawsuits over not delivering as advertised.
I also bet on Boston lmao
i bet on tesla. they came so far in 2 years,.. boston has been working on it for 20 years.
Let's just hope that light on its head doesn't turn red.
It will probably if it experiences an error at the very least
You mean yellow
😅😅😅😅😅
@@Funky-dude681 Yellow is normally to indicate caution for safety (hence the standard for "safety yellow"), but red is commonly used in robotics and software systems to indicate errors and faults. Funny as the joke is about red being scary, more seriously given their apparent desire to work the bots in warehouses and distribution centers, they would follow the same convention.
@@stuckinprogress1449 I was referencing ultrakill the main character is a bloodthirsty robot and his light on his head is yellow
Teslabot hobbles along like it's got load in its pants. It can barely walk.
Compare that to Atlas sprinting off camera.
LOL, yes - when I watch the Teslabot - even on this simple canned demo, it's just so slow, and I think - you want to replace people, with that? Even on simple warehouse labor, it clearly can't keep up.
@@barry7920
Great point !
@@barry7920 and of course Musk demos are 99% fake anyways
@@barry7920 dude they just started making robots while Boston has more than two decades of experience. Sure boston dynamics robots are impressive but remember it took them years to get there.
@@brick-2000 Boston Dynamics did not work two decades on Atlas but four! And that it took the best of the best this long to get where they are now should tell you how absolutely pointless the Optimus development is. Even the earliest versions of Atlas from 40 (!!!) years ago are clearly superior to Optimus. Just compare their version from 1986, it could go up stairs, jump, do flips, all after just 2 years of development in the 80s. Optimus can not even properly walk on a flat surface with preprogrammed movements. And still it took them two decades until the first version was capable to walk on properly uneven surfaces like through woods. Not a single version of Atlas walked as crappy as Optimus does, its movement from the very beginning was dynamic and natural, not stiff and robot-like. Because Boston Dynamics actually tried to figure out how to make it walk like a human does, while Tesla spend most of its effort in making Optimus look sleek and human-like. The whole purpose of Optimus is to boost the TSLA stock, nothing more.
Mark my words, Optimus will be a complete failure and will never even come close to Atlas.
It's an insult to the years of hard work, research and dedication by Boston Dynamics, to even mention Teslabots in the same sentence.
A robot without a brain is a useless hunk of metal. At least Tesla recognizes a robot is useless without one. Boston dynamics will disappear once the companies who figure out general ai take it to market. As an example Honda was a world leader in bipedal robots. Now they are irrelevant. Same thing will happen with Boston dynamics. Especially since they have stated they will not make them for military purposes, cutting out one of the largest potential markets.
Boston Dynamics casually flexing and showing why they're the frontrunners of humanoid robotics lol.
Just standing up is much of a flex look at its clumsy hands an clumsy walk they had to cut it short BD is learning from scratch when it comes to electric motor and actuators they're used to hydraulics systems In its humanoid robots
What you are seeing at BD is programed moves. Watch maker were making spring or weight driven automatons that could play music or sign their name 100s of years ago. They programed their creations with cams. The same idea as BD is using but mechanical vs digital.
BD is till setting up it's AI research.
@@trondialsingh594 Lmao, they've been working with electric actuators on Spot for years now. Hardly a new thing.
And yes getting up from the floor is a flex. In that I'm pretty sure Optimus still struggles with it.
@@chaosfire321 Optimus struggles with _walking_
asking it to stand up is just a _bit_ beyond itself
11yrs(BD) vs 2yrs(Tesla) btw
The thing I don’t understand is that Tesla’s bot reminds me a lot of Honda’s Asimo… from 20 years ago. Boston Dynamics bot actually feels like a real step forward in robotics.
Exactly. One is clunky and is for hype.
One is build to perform
But asimo is more advanced than optimus in many ways for walking, movement in general and self balance
TESLA BOT is A BAD COPY ROBOT ~( ◑﹏◐ )~
@@etbenson 👍👍👍😜 YEP. ASIMO FOR THE WIN.
EVEN SIMPLE TASK LIKE HOLDING DRINKS is HARD FOR OTHER ROBOTS TO FOLLOW.
100
Atlas - an actual ai robot
Cyber bot - basically a mannequin with a motor or 2 that's remotely controlled by a human. Tesla bot is never not suspended by a cable
Why even being tesla into the conversation they’re eons behind Boston dynamics
Not eon. Maybe a couple of steps behind
the tesla robotics are behind Honda's Asimo bot@@simanaken8400
@@simanaken8400 they aren’t even where Honda was with this tech a decade ago.
FSD is also way behind the goal of Level 5 Full Autonomy.
@@simanaken8400Cope harder sir
Tesla bot looks like a toaster compared to the Boston Dynamics robot.
thats cos it is fake
Good for a show or a circus. Nothing useful. Waste of money.
@@Elena-sg5xjyou sound like one of those PC nay sayers from the 1980's. Your limited mind is your issue.
@@lizardmilkoh yeah, Got evidence it's fake?
totally agree with you. way ahead of everybody else
I think the biggest likely difference between the Boston Dynamics Atlas and Tesla Optimus is that one is an amazing feat of technology, and the other is yet another publicity stunt by Tesla.
I love the part where the Boston Dynamics people said, “It's ULTRAKILLing time!”
Now we just need to make it heal itself via blood
@@Fred_the_1996 Just imagine that in the next presentation... They will teach him how to slide and flip a coin!
@@prismaticrain fistful of dollar
0:44
Tesla Bot feels like Minos Prime tho-
"dull dirty & dangerous" is a perfect band name... for a fully automated robot-trio.
personally, I like the aestetic of the older Atlas -- it has that retro future appeal
I like the new for how silly it looks and it looks like v1 from the game ultrakill.
We habe Atlas moving like an athlete while the tesla bot dances like a granny without even being able to reposition its feet (would not surprise me if they were bolted to the floor). They are not competing in the same league
Tesla bot are b1, and atlas bot are bx
Yes, the Teslabots do hand dance only
B1s could move properly try a better example
@@aydencahoon6557 Move properly AND dancing? No. Move properly? If moving in a straight line slower than the acceptable threshold of any productive worker is "properly" then, yes.
Boston Dynamics products is just years ahead of the Tesla products. Years and years ahead. Plus they don't need human actors in costumes.
if I were BD, I wouldn’t appreciate you elevating the Teslabot to the level of my advanced robotics.
By the looks of it, It's way more advanced that either of those other ones mentioned.
Digit looks like a simpleton in comparison... And I love digit!
The HD Atlas is still awesome. Look at that thing.
Boston Dynamics is cornering the market on robotics because it's looking at range and variety.
And... They will be taking jobs in future though probably it'll be basic, entry-level jobs...at first
It has more degrees of motion and probably more powerful actuators. Tesla dumbed them down on purpose so that people would be able to over power and outrun the bot
The fingers on the Tesla bot are way more impressive imo! That stomps the 360 rotation for sure. Also way more useful for things like folding clothing. Hands are a WAY more difficult problem then people give credit for.
so, the hands that had to be controlled by a person that was slightly off screen? Or the unloading of equipment that changes the items on the table and crate when they change views?@@lachlanB323
Boston Dynamics is worlds ahead. I can think of a thousand real world applications for use today. AI can be taught, we just have to teach them right.
I would not go that far. The hydraulic Atlas has been around for years but it is a research tool and demo unit. Not suited for mass production. Tesla has been hiring people for the factory to build Optimus. Tesla has several years of AI experience and the new Atlas looks like a pill to manufacture. It has more joints aka degrees of freedom than is needed. Complexity and expense. Wish both the best. Competition is good; And you are right the robot that will be most easily taught may well be the winner.
The 360 nature of Atlas body makes it way more useful in a work setting. It seems far better balanced
Different strengths. For example the hand articulation here is way ahead of Boston Dynamics. That is pretty important if a robot is going to do an actual job that isn't hauling stuff.
@@danharold3087but you have to admit, those joints do make it sci-fi cool.
@@danharold3087 _Tesla has several years of AI experience_
And with all that AI experience, FSD remains a simple minded Level 2 assistant, which needs 100 percent human supervision.
I don't know if you all realize this, but if Boston Dynamics (DB) was able to develop in complete secrecy a robot that is supposed to be better in every way as one that surpasses even the average human in many aspects, I don't dare to imagine what else BD has in reserve in his drawer. Without exaggeration, BD is the most advanced in the field of robotics and they are the leader in this field.
There is absolutely no comparison between boston dynamics and tesla. Boston developed the tech and elon came in and stole it just like every company hes running into the ground. The reason tesla has been able to develop robotics so quickly is because they took it from boston dynamics!
Running into the ground 🤔 I’m pretty sure he’s the richest man in the world because of accomplishing the opposite of what you just said… Upside down world?
What he stole is Asimo from the 2000s lol. Tesla is lame.
Sounds like you made all of that up. Elon hurt your feelings?
Imagine getting unalived by a ring doorbell.
TWICE!? BEATEN BY A RING DOORBELL TWICE!? I’ve only known the taste of victory but this taste- is this my blood? Haha I d never known such relief. We will meet again ring.
May your privacy invasions be many and your warrants few
Relatable
you can say killed
@@sahaquiel4640 I know. lol
Optimus looks like a butler while Atlas looks like he could 360 dropkick a dude.
And it'd tricking hurt too
We’re almost near Skynet, boys and girls.
i'm ready, i already defeated ton of Synths and Super Mutant in my 12th Playthrough,
nothing scares me anymore
@@jensenraylight8011 🥳❤💯💥💫👍👍👍
Skynet, schmynet.
They're here to learn your job, hoodie.
BRAHH ITS ALREADY HERE
Skynet is already an AI company
V1 vs Optimus Prime moment
boston dynamics robot is going to be an actual product (given their track record), tesla bot is vapourware
Why not compare Atlas to one of the actual competitors?
You missed 'Figure 1' - And you also missed the '001' on Atlas, which means theres gonna be 10s or 100s.
It means atlas is real life V1
Now get them to fight as the tesla one starts saying "Machine, turn back now."
Please bring back robot wars , now full size
I would pay to see Optimus vs Atlas vs Figure1 in combat or on an obstacle course or both combined.
your telling me they made a robot named "Optimus" then suddenly a new robot comes out looking like Shockwave 💀
v1 ultrakill
I think Atlas would be great to help elderly and old people stay on farms and ranches. I personally think I would try an Atlas and see what potential it could have in real world dynamics. How easy it was to get into and out of a 1 Ton Truck. Help get groceries. Help shovel 39.6 inches of snow from out in front of the hay barn, barn, house and back approximately 3 to 4 feet back. To help shovel out the main gate so a person can open it and secure it open. Then you can get a six-foot snow blower through to remove the rest of the snow. Help shovel a patch of ground quite some distance through 4- and 5-foot drifts in order to feed equines. Shovel a patch through same said drifts to help elderly active old crippled up woman get to each barn to shovel doors free and back 3 or 4 feet. Getting the drift here. How about going up and down stairs. How about unloading feed when it comes in 50 lb. bags. That bag is 4 times lower priced than the 20 lb bags. How about helping the working class. Legal secretaries carry legal size file boxes up and down stairs and into and lifting them onto and off of shelving. There is lots of applications to help keep people in their homes.
I dont know why everyone wants to go with a very humanoid approach. We can literally make them do anything, but so many limit them to the same issues we have. Boston dynamics WILL pull ahead, 360 movement will be so much more useful, also who is dropping 20k per robot when it can break, fail, and is slower then a real human
You answered your own question: we can make them do anything we can. Maybe not so important in a factory, but extremely useful in your own home, on construction sites, or anywhere else robots will work alongside humans.
They are also better suited for complex tasks. For instance: vacuuming. We have robot vacuums but they suck at the job and not in a good way. A humanoid robot could wield a proper vacuum, move furniture out of the way, vacuum the stairs, empty the vacuum and clean the bag/filter. No robot vacuum will ever be able to do that.. unless we build one that is nearly as complex as a general purpose humanoid robot.
That humanoid robot meanwhile can help with cooking, clean the gutters, do the dishes and iron the laundry as well. They can use our tools, and adapt to our living space instead of the other way around.
It’ll be a long time before that is possible, but it’s the holy grail of robotics, and I don’t know why we wouldn’t take the humanoid approach. If we can build that, we can build pretty much any specialised robot imaginable as well.
its sounds like V1 from ultrakill but lesser version but we are in there the future
Tesla: What's so great about your robot? Ours is stylish and high-tech.
Boston Dynamics: Ours actually works.
Remember people didn't think cars would replace horses back in the day.
I hope these robots will be affordable for households to purchase. As a small business owner it would be amazing to have an infinitely trainable and tireless worker that doesn’t need health insurance, take sick/vacation days, etc.
Machines are getting smarter all the while too, don't be surprised if you become dispensable as chief as well.
Yes, then one day they will put us all out of work. Even your small business.
Maybe we need to disappear ...we are not of use anymore....
What you are asking for is 50 years away. At best.
This definitely doesn't sound dystopian or completely soulless at all🥰
i would appreciate it if you make a versus video of all the main robots. (Figure 1, Atlas, Optimus, Digit, etc...)
The tesla robot need not to apply unless it can show something Asimo was not doing 10 or 15 years ago. In fact, Asimo was kicking soccer balls to the goal, receiving people in hotels and many other applications 9 years ago.
Boston dynamics are the kind of people to make a real life aperture science laboratories
Doing the jobs that people don’t want? Isn’t that the definition of a job?😂
Okay here me out. We all end up with robots, but we just send them to to our jobs for us. We get paid to just live our lives now. 😂
Development is rapid, so we'll see how these robots do once they are put to work. The cost will, of course, be a factor in their commercial viability.
Give them hands instead of feet like a chimp and it could climb poles to do maintanence etc.
Boston Dynamic robot is auditioning for the next Exorcist movie.
ATLAS 2: SURRENDER HUMANS OR WE WILL PROLIFERATE.
Imagine putting two humanoid robots into an MMA Cage and duking it out like Robot Wars. That could be the future of entertainment.
How much he bench press?
Tesla bot won’t be ready for 4 years after musk says it’s ready
Du.
And still fail to deliver
And overpriced. People keep citiing an off hand comment from Musk about it costing 30k as a given. Meanwhile, they're already canceling plans for cheap cars lol.
but it has full-self-popato-cutting!
Neither could take me.. John Henry challenge is still open 🔥
Boston Dynamics T-800 replaced with a T-1000.
I heard some new materials T1000 like are bring developped....
Do your research....
ATLAS 2 is NEAR T-800 CLASS. HALFWAY WAIT ANOTHER DECADES AND THEY CAN PERFECT IT.
I don’t trust anything Elon says, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tesla bot footage originated at ILM.
no way v1 ultrakill looses to that guy..
I hope I live to see the day when humanoid robot fighting is a sport
V1 vs Swordmashine be like:
The new Atlas gives me Terminator vibes, and not in a good way.
It would be good if they could develop field worker robots.
the field is a really tough and variable environment. even BD are still far off autonomy in that regard, if miles ahead of that other thing
CNET talking about SKYNET🤔
I've been tracking 'Red' Whiteker, and Boston Dynamics for now 30 years. They're good, and had their major break in the Three Mile Island cleanup, but they take a 'top down approach' which looks good on stage. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it requires the programmer provide everything the machine needs to know in advance. Personally, I think the 'bottom up' approach is the way to go.
Robots + UBI = Win!
The j3ws will just raise the prices to keep up with people's increasing money
someone upload ChatGPT to Atlas like they did Figure. That be a trip.
We need to get these robots into the fighting ring ASAP!
While I understand that Boston has metric tons more knowledge on robots than Tesla, I see Atlas being popular in actual hard to work and often dangerous areas (might even work in conjunction with the dog bot, dog bot alerts Atlas unit to something that needs to be moved, cleaned, etc.), might even see some action with emergency services depending on how much they add to it. Optimus is clearly going to be an office or a household assistant. There will probably be some crossover, especially once Optimus has to cut it's teeth in a real work environment and the end-users do what end-users do, and Tesla has to rework it or make more variants. I think the biggest thing that will separate them will be how user friendly they are to control and command. I'm betting Optimus will be out of the box like an Alexa with a body with some simple presets and the ability to adjust with some kind of learning AI, and Atlas will require at least some training to use decently at first.
Every gangsta until that mono eye robot learn to ricochet and throwing spare coins
Love how they are all like "you can over power them or out run them" while having hands that can hold a gun.
Why make it humanoid? Why not give it four arms or four legs or extra joints or wheels or any other kind of useful stuff that humans don't have?
Humans can't rotate their heads, torso, hands and legs 360 degrees, so Atlas is superhuman in that sense.
That's Stretch and Spot - Boston Dynamics has several lines of development. Agree that the human form is not necessarily optimal for all tasks.
because robots r designed to operate in our world
Didn’t know there is a Tesla Bot while I've known the Boston Dynamics robots for years and follow their evolvement closely.
What Boston was showing with the new video was it moved to that location on its own, it was told where to go but how it got there was its decision, with the tesla bot it's still being told what to do in every aspect and it actually shows how behind it is compared to Boston Dynamics, so the tesla bot is not going to be in service for years.
Sierra Club Group Leaders avoiding their FEMA Camp Assignments are in for a big surprise someday on some Late Night Mountain Trail.
How do they hold up to a 50BMG ?
Ah yes the Insitute has finaly made the first generation of synths.
Bruh Detroit become human predicted the circular lights on their heads
who knows atlas may be able to flip coins and shoot futuristic revolvers...
ULTRAKILL REFERENCE!!!!!!!!
They took our jurrrbs!
Atlas runs and sometimes breaks, Optimus hobbles around like it has two sprained ankles
Atlas can be used as mobile radar & air defense to protect critical infrastructure - energy plants.
This all happened back in the 90's with Nintendo and Sega. One company would wait for a competitor to release a new model, wait a year, and release a new model that out does the model their competition's previous model. This is just the same idea.
DO NOT Let it get powered by blood
I want an Atlas friend!
Boston Dynamics has a working robot, Teslas Robot uses CGI, Video manipulation and puppetry..... on is real, one is where Boston Dynamics was several years ago, one is a working robot, the other is not, you choose.....
Boston dynamics made V1 and Tesla has got V2, lets hope they dont run on our blood though
This reminds me of the miners union from Fallout 76. They feared that the robots were taking their jobs, despite the fact that mining is some of the most dangerous work that you can do.
I lowkey want the robots to fight each other
BD's robots are being used in some professions already, they're more experienced in terms of creating robots.
That dance demonstrations says it all, while Optimus dances like 80 y.o grandma, Atlas friggin flips rolls and shuffles.
Boston Dynamics: over 30 years as one of the world's premier robotics companies.
Tesla: The company that couldn't build a gas pedal that doesn't try to kill you.
Enough said.
GO BOSTON DYNAMICS. Think of how handy these robots will be for building....say...stations on the Moon and Mars and setting them up for human habitation....
when the first HD Atlas blew a knee hydraulic line, everyone felt that. New atlas is begging for some stick on googly eyes
As long as there are populations to oppress these kind of robots will continue with good funding.
It would take HEAPS of evidence to convince me that these robots arent already in the process of either learning hand-to-hand-combat or getting weapons systems programmed into their core drivers.
are they on their own ?
Hardly a comparison! You didn't even focus on the fact that the Telsa bot has fingers that actually test how hard the finger pressure is so it can pick up fragile items vs hard objects similare to us humans. Therefore more future proof for doing human jobs, like cooking, cleaning.
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Imagine that let's say you broke into a warehouse.
And the first thing you see in the distance is Atlas Waking up with its light turned red.
Now If that was me and i happened to encounter Atlas doing that. I'm getting the heck out of here as fast as possible.
I want to see a bot deep in human waste cleaning out a septic tank
It blows my mind that these things exist!
I would not argue with the first Atlas robot, I would with all the others though!
I believe that with the right data input BD Atlas 2.0 could act like be like CARY GRANT...No Doubt....I would buy that robot))
Atlas is a superior robot over the Tesla Bot. Atlas may be utilitarian, however the functionality is limitless with the robust build and flexibility of the robots chassis! The Tesla Bot, however has a fine tuned and more delicate function in my opinion.
lol
Why is utilitarianism a bad thing? There's beauty in function.
@@keztannis6848 I prefer Utility over generic function. So I do not have anything negative against it.
Tech is unavoidable period. _Sometimes_ (not always!) When it feels like a new tech is going to put you out of business you can embrace it and become a manager of mundane tasks you don't have to perform yourself anymore, and now you coordinate and create larger groups of finished tasks instead
The Atlus bot gives me less uncanny valley vibes to me, so it easily wins in my books.
but elmo muskrat said he knows more about manufacturing than any one else on the planet!
It look like Projectionist, from Bendy game😊
Personally I think the one advantage the Tesla Bot might end up having is accessibility. If Elon plans on fulfilling the promise of the Tesla Bot being a (somewhat at least) affordable product for everyday households it looks like it could probably do housework or other tasks just fine down the road. Atlas while definitely better performance wise isn’t quite on the market so to speak (even though the Tesla Bot isn’t either but still) & if it did I could probably imagine that the Tesla Bot would be a heck of a lot more affordable. If Atlas ended up being similar price wise to the Tesla Bot then it’d absolutely be the best on the market for “home robots.”
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Now he needs wings
without interrupt ing each other