In the novelization, obi wan was too rusty and vader was being extremely careful. Think about it, you'd be careful against the guy who cooked you well done and the threw rocks at you while you had an asthma attack
Obi wan was just better, you are saying like Obi wan wasn't conflicted to fight him either but he did so it's just bad point, Obi wan won by just pure skill.
New hope vader should have experience obi won spent 18 years doing fuck all in a desert while Vader was winning wars crushing rebels and slaughtering Jedi
@@ThegrandKrild more potential of course, but at that time they were equals. They fought side by side in a war up to this moment so it's hard to argue one is better then the other.
No way people are saying but Anakin would have one if... The thing is he didnt win and nothing was going to change his ego. Obi-wan wins high diff on mustifar.
obi wan beats anakin in every fight we see them have except when hes old and purposely wants to die to guide luke better, but anakin fans still cant except obi wan is better even when its shown repeatedly
Well that is not true Obi wan knew he was too weak to beat Vader in ANH this is said in other source material and it's a stupid ideal that he let himself die to guide Luke better he could have done that if he was alive also Luke needed guidance throughout the 3 years between ANH and ESB if he was alive he could have trained him people who think that he let himself die don't understand how stupid that is.
Anakin only lost on Mustafar for his arrogance and it was stated he literally would have won if he didnt want to prove himself to obi wan by jumping on a cliff. Anakin while sparing with obi wan disarmed obi wan and said it was over, then obi wan showed his arrogant side and kept fighting and threw anakins saber away. During Vader vs Ben Kenobi, Obi Wan stated he wouldve lost to darth since darth was playing carefully instead of rushing in
@@residentevilgod3070Anakin is better George Lucas said that Anakin became a lvl 9 duelist on mustafa. The only lvl 9 duelist besides him are Yoda and sidious. Obi wan was lvl 8
To be fair in AOTC Anakin was already a better duellist Kenobi even says if he spent a bit more time training with his saber he would already rival Yoda in saber combat and we see that Anakin in AOTC can hold his own longer against Dooku than Obi wan and in the Kenobi show we do see Anakin overpower obi wan with a Lightsaber int the flashback but again his emotions cloud his judgement so he lost
Lucas said that Vader was never stronger than Obi-Wan. He aleways wanted to prove himself as a Jedi, and in ANH Obi-Wan won psychologically, as he said. Every duel/sparring Obi-Wan won. He is a better duelist and his power was the same as Anakin's as seen in ROTS. He had more force abilities. On Mustafar people tend to say Anakin lost because he was conflicted, but he just murdered hundreds of children and choked his wife while Obi-Wan was literally in tears during the duel. Obi-Wan was conflicted and mentally destroyed and defeated in a fair fight a dark side Anakin stronger than ever because he was a better duelist and had more biq
First no Lucas has stated that Anakin was more powerful and stronger than Obi wan but let his emotions get the better of him and lost. Yes obi wan won the Psychological battle but he was too weak to win against Vader. Every duel until ANH yes Kenobi did win but we know that even in AOTC Anakin was barely behind Obi wan and ultimately if he got his emotions in check would have surpassed him at that time. He was not the better duellist but had better BIQ through out the fight Anakin is always pushing forward all Kenobi can do is defend it is only when he gets the high ground that he wins with out it he would have lost he knew Anakin so well and that was what allowed him to win he knew he would try to kill him like he did to maul.(until TCW) Anakin was conflicted he was crying before Padme showed up at his actions and at the death of himself he was already unbalanced before the confrontation the dark side was growing and his negative emotions where coming to the surface twisting his mind and he did not have control of his power and did not know how to use it properly then padme shows up with Obi wan and he thinks that she brought him here to kill him, his world shatters in his head all the atrocity's he committed was for her and now she had betrayed him we see further confliction because he does not have his sith eyes while fighting Kenobi and yes Obi wan was not having the best time but like he said he would do what he must and was ready to kill Anakin it was only after the fight was won that he broke down
Skill and experience in Episode 4 should go to Vader. Obi Wan is an old man doing basically nothing. Vader has been in constant fights staying active, while Obi Wan lived the hermit life. You can see this in Kenobi, the short time he stopped he became weaker, imagine after all these years into Episode 4.
Okay buddy you’re delusional.. you’re saying anakin wins in the exact same scenario when obi wan won.. knightfall Vader is overrated and not that strong.. obi wan wins loo
You forgot about The Phantom Menace😂
Little Anakin wins by smashing him with his vehicle of that race (I forgot the name) lol
@@Pochi1716XDD now this is podracing!
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Lmao 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀
1:16 you should give the speed to nobody. at the their last duel they were moving like two f*cking toasters
In the novelization, obi wan was too rusty and vader was being extremely careful. Think about it, you'd be careful against the guy who cooked you well done and the threw rocks at you while you had an asthma attack
@@theuniqueorange😂😂😂😂😂 I LAUGH SO HARD FR. Anakin in a new hope was like: not again u f*fucking old cracker
True 😂😂
Finally someone that says the truth
Anakin was better than obi-wan but he lost by his ego and his conflict
yes bro. we have same think
His need to prove himself is his undoing
@@arcticvic And that's why I went back into the temple to study Art Of War
No conflict, ego is part of the character
Obi wan was just better, you are saying like Obi wan wasn't conflicted to fight him either but he did so it's just bad point, Obi wan won by just pure skill.
Anakin in TCW should already get dueling. Vs Dooku, Vs Ventress he was already overpowering them
sorry bro Obi wan fought grevious 6 times in clone wars and won all 6
I love the Fnaf music in the background! Getting me ready for the Fnaf movie! 😊
Vader gets battle iq in ANH. Anakin gets dueling always. And he gets battle iq in clone wars. And feats.
I know Kenobi is extremely powerful, but the only reason he beat Anakin was bc he knew him so well
Cool edit my like you get
Remember a skywalker can never win a kenobi while a kenobi has the high ground
Mustafar kenobi should win because high ground 😂
New hope vader should have experience obi won spent 18 years doing fuck all in a desert while Vader was winning wars crushing rebels and slaughtering Jedi
What song did he used ??
In fact, He never defeated Obiwan😅
You forgot one form" its over anakin i have high ground kenobi"
Song?
Song name
Ok ok, so how does anakin win on mustafar in this video but lost in cannon?
Anakin is more strong
Obi-wan has more tactics and defeat anakin with only skill
@@ThegrandKrild more potential of course, but at that time they were equals. They fought side by side in a war up to this moment so it's hard to argue one is better then the other.
anakin lost because of his rage and arrogance
@@prska has there been a fight with Anakin not angry or arrogant?
@@hectorespudo5565 yes, plenty
You know, this means nothing being the fact that Obi-Wan has beating Anakin every time they fought
In clone wars dont forget obi wan beat anakin without even using a light saber , anakin was angry at that time as well
When?
No way people are saying but Anakin would have one if... The thing is he didnt win and nothing was going to change his ego. Obi-wan wins high diff on mustifar.
Well no because this is a theoretical fight based on power and skill without confliction and it's a fact that Anakin would win on paper
obi wan beats anakin in every fight we see them have except when hes old and purposely wants to die to guide luke better, but anakin fans still cant except obi wan is better even when its shown repeatedly
Obi wan venceu por qualsa da arrogancia de anakin
Well that is not true Obi wan knew he was too weak to beat Vader in ANH this is said in other source material and it's a stupid ideal that he let himself die to guide Luke better he could have done that if he was alive also Luke needed guidance throughout the 3 years between ANH and ESB if he was alive he could have trained him people who think that he let himself die don't understand how stupid that is.
Anakin only lost on Mustafar for his arrogance and it was stated he literally would have won if he didnt want to prove himself to obi wan by jumping on a cliff. Anakin while sparing with obi wan disarmed obi wan and said it was over, then obi wan showed his arrogant side and kept fighting and threw anakins saber away. During Vader vs Ben Kenobi, Obi Wan stated he wouldve lost to darth since darth was playing carefully instead of rushing in
Mustafar moment
In mustafar : kenobi actually destroyed anakin
Fans : *anakin high diff*
mustafar Anakin< Mustafar Kenobi cause Anakin was conflicted and that makes a Jedi/sith Weaker
Name song?
my ordinary life x i have no time
@@RENDEXC thx
@@johngron9217 you are welcome :)
Old Obiwan Monkey - Taunting at Vader, lmao😂😂😂 Look at their finger - pointing.
song name?
my ordinary life x i have no time
Obi wan always was a better duelist than anakin, thats actually the reason why he could beat him.
No he wasn't , Obi wan couldn't beat Dooku on his own but Anakin did .
@@irvinmyles3286 did dooku beat obi wan only with his dueling skills with the lightsaber?
@@leonelsanchez7991 Yeah he did in attack of the clones , then on the show , only time he didn't was when he rag doll him in ROTS
@@irvinmyles3286 i mean, obi wan with his soresu, in attack of the clones he was using ataru, but im talking about soresu obi wan
@@leonelsanchez7991 He still lost to Dooku tho because of soresu
How many times does kenoby jas to win for the fans notice kenoby>anakin/vader
Tbh the most op about obi is just battle iq and wise making decision
A maestria na força também
Revenge of the sith anakin is not more powerful because Obi wan beat grevious and is stated that he could of gone on par with palpatine
POV WBW anakin
How does mustafar Kenobi get feats over nightfall Anakin. Sure he just defeated grevious. Ain't Anakin just behead his master?
Anakin Clonewars>Obiwan clonewars middiff. Anakin Rots>Obiwan Rots lowdiff. KFV>MFK low-nodiff. Vader>Ben nodiff
Anakin wins against Obi wan, but space Jesus Obi wan wins against him 😂
The real reason anakin lost to obi-wan was of his arrogant in revenge of the sith
E na série obiwan que vader perdeu também?aiai subestimam mt obi
Force abilities to obi wan when anakin become vader force abilities to vader
Can you cope, mustafar kenobi mid diffs vader because it was literally shown in the movie
Dueling goes to Anakin
which form
Obi wan is the better duelist I say anakin is better by new hope
@@residentevilgod3070Anakin is better
George Lucas said that Anakin became a lvl 9 duelist on mustafa.
The only lvl 9 duelist besides him are Yoda and sidious.
Obi wan was lvl 8
To be fair in AOTC Anakin was already a better duellist Kenobi even says if he spent a bit more time training with his saber he would already rival Yoda in saber combat and we see that Anakin in AOTC can hold his own longer against Dooku than Obi wan and in the Kenobi show we do see Anakin overpower obi wan with a Lightsaber int the flashback but again his emotions cloud his judgement so he lost
@@RENDEXC clone wars form
Speed goes to kenobi he has force speed
They all do lol
@@aaronroberts7661 if they all had it than why did anakin never use it?
@@FinnDaFish wym, he did.
@@FinnDaFish his form the way he attacks is by speed and strength
@@FinnDaFish to overwhelm his opponent, that’s why I’m revenge of the sith obi wan kept backing up, because Anakin was Besting him for most the fight
Obi>anakin😊
WBW Anakin no diffs kenobi
I guess Obi wan win extreme diff
Lucas said that Vader was never stronger than Obi-Wan. He aleways wanted to prove himself as a Jedi, and in ANH Obi-Wan won psychologically, as he said.
Every duel/sparring Obi-Wan won.
He is a better duelist and his power was the same as Anakin's as seen in ROTS. He had more force abilities.
On Mustafar people tend to say Anakin lost because he was conflicted, but he just murdered hundreds of children and choked his wife while Obi-Wan was literally in tears during the duel. Obi-Wan was conflicted and mentally destroyed and defeated in a fair fight a dark side Anakin stronger than ever because he was a better duelist and had more biq
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First no Lucas has stated that Anakin was more powerful and stronger than Obi wan but let his emotions get the better of him and lost.
Yes obi wan won the Psychological battle but he was too weak to win against Vader.
Every duel until ANH yes Kenobi did win but we know that even in AOTC Anakin was barely behind Obi wan and ultimately if he got his emotions in check would have surpassed him at that time.
He was not the better duellist but had better BIQ through out the fight Anakin is always pushing forward all Kenobi can do is defend it is only when he gets the high ground that he wins with out it he would have lost he knew Anakin so well and that was what allowed him to win he knew he would try to kill him like he did to maul.(until TCW)
Anakin was conflicted he was crying before Padme showed up at his actions and at the death of himself he was already unbalanced before the confrontation the dark side was growing and his negative emotions where coming to the surface twisting his mind and he did not have control of his power and did not know how to use it properly then padme shows up with Obi wan and he thinks that she brought him here to kill him, his world shatters in his head all the atrocity's he committed was for her and now she had betrayed him we see further confliction because he does not have his sith eyes while fighting Kenobi and yes Obi wan was not having the best time but like he said he would do what he must and was ready to kill Anakin it was only after the fight was won that he broke down
Mustafar obi wan>
Y u going up by 2 points 💀
Because there’s two categories 😂
Ben kenobi low-mid diffs
Nah obi wins all expect the last one
Yet obi wan beat him every single time easy wins until he let himself die in a new hope
He did not let himself die people who think that are as bad as people thinking that balance in the force is 2 sith and 2 jedi
Skill and experience in Episode 4 should go to Vader. Obi Wan is an old man doing basically nothing. Vader has been in constant fights staying active, while Obi Wan lived the hermit life. You can see this in Kenobi, the short time he stopped he became weaker, imagine after all these years into Episode 4.
Sorry but this is really bad.
Okay buddy you’re delusional.. you’re saying anakin wins in the exact same scenario when obi wan won.. knightfall Vader is overrated and not that strong.. obi wan wins loo
Kenobi solos
Kenobi solos
Kenobi solos
Vader solos
If no confliction Anakin takes all
@@imjustaregularhuman3798so corny that people keep using that cry some more
@@residentevilgod3070 But it's true
He doesn't know how to spell forms 😂
Anakin should take intelligence every time
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