What are "DSO" grounds?
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
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I'm assuming many companies have different terminologies and work methods for this idea. You can't always (especially during storm) respond to every emergency call out there! During an active storm we receive many emergency calls, too many to handle! The main idea is to make each of those calls as safe as possible until they can be properly delt with. Shut the power off, ground the lines and move on to the next one!... Until the calvary arrives!👊💪
Be safe out there everyone! 👊🍻
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Hey Everyone!
I'm assuming many companies have different terminologies and work methods for this idea. You can't always (especially during storm) respond to every emergency call out there! During an active storm we receive many emergency calls, too many to handle! The main idea is to make each of those calls as safe as possible until they can be properly delt with. Shut the power off, ground the lines and move on to the next one!... Until the calvary arrives!👊💪
Just curious. Why not check for potential then use hot cutters and clear the primary and neutral off the pole and clear the hazard instead of hanging a ground? Since it is already cleared off the source pole. Not being a critic brother. Just wondering. I mean as long as both ends are on the ground then does it really need to be grounded in this situation?
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Great question!!
The "passer by" was actually a retired lineman, so I had a pretty good idea of what I was walking into.
He phoned dispatch first and they had already punched in a plan for a DSO ground. I thought about requesting to do exactly what you said, but then figured I wouldn't have been able to clean up/touch the wire anyhow since I didn't have a second guy with me. Had I had a second lineman with me, I would have cut it clear and coiled it up!
Don't ever worry about being critical brother! We're all here to help and learn from each other 👊👊
@@Bobsdecline thanks man!!! Yeah I forget it is a different mind set being solo. I’m used to having a crew so the way I approach situations is completely different. When you’re on your own you need to take extra precautions because there isn’t anyone else to back you up. Love you content. Best line work channel out there. Probably the only one that is actually showing proper safe practices. Stay safe brother.
Appreciate the video. I was a dso for many years and now a manager of the group. Really appreciate your clear and concise explainations. Specific rules may vary, but the main intent is always the same. Keep safe and thanks for your work.
Thanks Gary! Appreciate the comment and your work in the industry! Cheers!
Here on the west coast the crews get completely overwhelmed when a storm hits. Last year we had a tree come down beside our house, but nobody in the little subdivision lost power. The primary line was about 8 feet off the pavement, holding the fallen tree up. I called BC Hydro and they left it hot like that for over a day. I was astounded when a neighbor used a chainsaw to cut limbs off the fallen tree so he could drive under the hot wires, it wasn't more than a few feet from the top of his truck to the 14,000V wires. Crazy. The next day they de-energized the line, and it was a few days before they had time to deal with it and turn our power back on.
Dollars to doughnuts he thought those wires were insulated and there was no risk.
@@markbernier8434no excuse when you can take 10 seconds to google “are overhead power lines insulated”
Then again, who am I to interfere with Darwinism 🫠
have seen that before and warned a guy trimming branches over his driveway. He said, "but it's not live" so I put the fear of god into him by saying there was a crew at the end of the block and that might change while he was up on a ladder. There was no crew, but he got a good wakeup call! (and his wife gave him shit too)
@@markbernier8434 Yes. All our hot distribution lines are bare.
Insulated or not don’t touch them and stay back. I would have called the power company and 911 saying you’re trapped in and they would be forced to come out and at least de-energize the lines and move the tree. I’ve seen people do that and if it’s a medical emergency you better believe they will be on top of it.
Beautiful scenery. No need to go to the gym after that one. Always interesting content. Thank you. Please stay safe, and God bless.
Love the view from up there! Definitely didn't need my hoodie by the time I was done! Lol. Great to see ya Heather!
Weird things happen in strange, weird areas. So to be SAFE you always bring out the book that informs what could happen IF someone just happened across this area and they decided to utilize their gas powered generator. So the repairman reads these possibilities and installs the grounding protection. Good job, thanks for the view.
Just want to say thank you for making these videos because you were a huge reason reason why I went to powerline school last year. I ended up getting a job as a high voltage technician in May. I could've went union lineman, but choose the union technician route because of the perks this company has and less emergency calls/construction. I'm making close to if not a little more than 6 figures starting out with 150-200k in my sights 5-10 years down the line.
If anyone is in need of a good job, pick a trade!!!
Pay attention, work hard, and you'll land yourself a good gig! Never underestimate the BROTHERHOOD! Electrician or powerline... it's a good time. But expect a lot of swearing and joking around! 😆I love it.
[edit] "NETA Power Systems Technician" / IBEW 110 in MN.
Don't get it twisted tho... I travel a lot and work 50-60hrs per week most weeks.
Awesome! Really appreciate you taking the time to write that and share your experience with others! 👊👊. Your right about the brotherhood! The learning never stops and most trades ultimately develop one's skills in such a way that you're willing to take on just about anything!
As someone who went through college and got an engineering degree because everyone around in the early 200s said to stay out of the trades, I 100% agree. I wish I'd perused my interest in a couple trades instead of just accepting that I should only consider a bachelors in something. Friends who became mechanics or electricians, both things I was interested in, enjoy their jobs more AND make better money than myself and most of the friends I graduated college with. If you have any interest in a trade job, at least consider it and compare all your options, you may just find that trade school is the better route for you.
Doubly so if you enjoy hands on work instead of a desk job. I can't tell you how many positions I've been interested in that turned me down for being overqualified. Turns out, I enjoy engineering tech work a lot more than "real" engineering work designing things at a desk and sitting in meetings. So instead I do a job that's basically half lineman, half surveyor with a little engineering throw in here and there, haha. But at least its more exciting than being chained to a desk all day.
@@Bobsdecline 100%! "most trades ultimately develop one's skills in such a way that you're willing to take on just about anything!" 💯
@@ShukenFlash Heck yeah!
I keep telling my kids along with my nieces and nephews to go pick a trade and you will never have to worry about money and then I hear then say they wanna be their own boss and I’ve had family friends who do electrical, mechanic, and hvac work and started with a regular company, work with them for 5 or so years to get experience and then start their own company. My dads friend was an HVAC tech for over 40+ years and traveled anywhere in the state of Florida and always had work, most trade jobs as of right now are in high demand and needing people desperately and I keep telling them which way to go. Hell even in the medical field it’s in high demand and that’s guaranteed work!
Everywhere I worked we had a way to transfer clearances too. Sometimes to dispatch if it was going to be a while or to someone else who would be scheduled to go to that job. So removing tags with another name wasn't that uncommon. All transfers documented on the clearance sheet and over the recorded line too.
The self laminating tags are nice too, but a lot of guys used to hate to have to "waste" a tag for every tag. If I remember correctly, they were 25 cents each, years ago and we also had to tag each blade of a three phase switch if not gang operated. Clearing a sub would take a ton of tags and so much handwriting. Hours of filling out tags sometimes..... But all part of the job and all good.
The worst I've had was over 100 tags for one switching schedule. It was a highly involved 345kV power tx refurb. The second worst was maybe 15 lol, so the first was a very unique situation! We don't typically tag each blade here, but do often tag at multiple locations on some devices. (Electronic+manual+I'd tag location for example)
Inside wireman, love it
Awesome how you share your job and skills Aaron! Truly a gem of CZcams, and a great all around person! The world needs more people like you.
Appreciate the comment Gary!
I hope to become a lineman one day. I appreciate your videos
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I was interested to see if DSO was the same as here in Ireland. Great video as always!
Using those seal tags for many years i have found it always best to use graphite pencil on them. Most any marker will fade in the suns uv. If left long enough (a few months in direct exposure) the ink can disappear completely. Pencil will outlast the tag itself, many years.
I do pole surveying and inspection for a fiber company all over the Midwest US. I've run into Condition Abnormal tags before, a few different types depending on what state/area I was in, as well as a couple of actual lockout tags for work being done nearby. With the Condition Abnormal tags they always listed some reason for there to be an abnormal condition but I never understood how exactly they were used. This answers a few questions I wondered about them.
And I wish even 1/4 of the power companies in the areas I work were as good about pole numbers as your company. Easily 80% of the poles I survey don't have a number, and a lot of the ones that do just have essentially a serial number, it can be looked up but the number itself isn't formatted in a way that would convey anything useful.
This was a great video. Always appreciate the way you explain things. Those darn trees again. They do keep you busy. I am sure the beavers will be back at it again also. Keep up the great work!
We're cutting literally thousands of trees a day in this province... darn thing just keep coming back!
Looks like New Brunswick. A nice time of the year for a walk in the woods...
Excellent 👍 Thank you.
Great video thanks for sharing
Another great video Bob .
Cool video!👊
Thanks Bob! I learned a lot.
Aside from less danger here than in town: if you leave wires laying around in town or suburb, they get stolen. (Someone stole 5 pounds of steel off my roadside when I went back to the house for a band-aid🩹.) Way out in the woods, will be slower to find and take longer to unsnarl.
Thanks for the explanation. I've seen you mess with lockouts and assumed the authority was radio-delegated to you, because 'site' is hundreds of miles wide/long, but good to see how that happens.
Appreciate the video Aaron, stay safe out there brother!
Thanks for the video. Very informative and well done!
Thanks for the Video. 👍🙏
Hey just Discoverd your channel ! Great vids ! I am in Northern NB keep up the great videos !
Awesome stuff as always Aaron,stay safe Brother,cheers from Australia ⚡🔌👊
WE LOVE YOUR STREET LIGHT LIGHT VIDEOS please put more!!!!!
Stay safe sir aaron!!!
Good job Aaron.
I appreciate your in depth raw looks at being a lineman. I'm looking to get into the field and I'm learning new stuff left and right with your videos. Thanks!
Thanks for another great video! Cant wait for the next one, ty for explaining everything as you go, I’ve gained a new knowledge and total understanding and respect for your special group of people. I’m an in home appliance tech and have come across different line personal for Georgia power where I live and always thank them for keeping the lights on.
Good video Aaron! Your attention to detail and making yourself, the community, as well as your coworkers safe is priority! Refreshing to see... thanks for your information... watch stacking them heals on the decent! 😊
Truly our brothers keeper! Be well...
Awesome. I’ve often wondered how you fellas found which pole to be which.
As you implied, this is overkill, but at least you followed the SOP for liability reasons... and the total clean up is going to be done by another crew. BTW, in my line of work, I had to keep track of consumables (that ground strap) and make sure I got another on the truck for next time. So many of the guys either failed to do that (make a list) or went from memory and would wind up with a dozen of something over the next few months.... and the truck was always cluttered to a point where you can't find anything, so you get yet another.
In Ontario you sign onto a work permit to apply grounds and then if you are leaving you sign off the permit, but leave the grounds then the next crew can sign on to the permit to complete the work. When the work is completed they remove the grounds and do a final surrender of the permit. It can then be energized by any crew.
Interesting how terminology 'evolves' within an industry, a company or even a division of a company.
Awesome video as usual. Crazy you have to ground that with no potential back feed possibility. I could see if you were putting wire back up that day. Always better to air on the side of safety though!
there was likely a tx there at that deadend pole to supply the house. suprised they didn't remove that span primary during that service disconnect
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The pole climbing training I received, they told us that tying off before you reach the top is improper. They failed people for doing it.
Thank you for your information.on do ground
I have 2 questions. 1 what type of hot stick do you use on Bear when walking around in the woods ? 2 You had a video where you showed a app a fellow lineman had created for practicing transformer bank connections. Sure would appreciate that information if you have the time. Be safe and watch out for those Bears, lol. Great channel by the way !!
If you ever get a chance could you do a video about some of the maneuvering you do in the bucket truck, where you’re going to setup, how you pick the spot how you get there etc. maybe even maneuvering in traffic in a bucket truck and pulling a pole trailer? I’m going to line school in April and the one part I’m nervous about is the cdl portion.
Always weird seeing guys using a neutral to ground. Here its a 50ft ground chain and a ground probe 1m (3ft) deep because we don't use a neutral in rural. Saskatchewan we use SWER.
I could totally do that job if I wasn't scared of electricity, heights and hard work 😂
I should have gone into the lineman program right out of high school. I tried three times since but I couldn't get in due to stiff competition. Now I'm 58 and have bad knees soI can't be a lineman and climb poles.
Distribution service operator= DSO. Do something without all the chain of command of headquarters.
Kinda like a mechanic who started working on a car then was not there the next day so the manager gave the other mechanic the go ahead and work on it
Do you ever encounter tv cable lines? *im from the U.S*
So you attached a 'ground' wire from a dead primary to a returning neutral why? I'm not questioning it, I want to understand the reason. You stated that the condition of the line was probably present for quite some time, and I'm assuming that, had that dwelling been occupied, your company would've been notified immediately when the tree fell and they lost power? So the 'live' end is where you started the video by the supply line and the primary to the residence was broken? You checked the potential of the downed line and there was none, so when the crew goes there in a few days, will they replace the line? Or just remove it? I'm not understanding the potential hazard of the line that is laying on the ground. Thanks btw for the videos. Very interesting and well done...not any extraneous talking and all great information. Take care.
Tbh there's not really a hazard... the primary was laying on the ground and already well entangled with the neutral.
Problem is; Procedure wise, where do you draw the line?... basically it's either grounded or it isn't. I'm order to be considered ground, a tested and approved device must be used. This case is really splitting hairs, but ultimately it wasn't grounded according to our procedures.
That all being said, there still exists a very small chance of a hazard existing. The L2 side of the primary was still on an insulator, the downed portion may also laying across very dry or high resistance areas of the ground. In theory, it could build up a static charge.
To err on the side of caution, we simply always install a ground
Oh, I forgot to add; The crew will complete dismantle the entire line. I circled the home before filming and it was definitely beyond repair. Looked like it had been vacant for 10 years. Roof was laying in the living room lol
Not grounded, not de-energized.
What’s the most remote location you’ve ever had to work in?
Can you show the proper use of your climbing belt
I’m confused. You said you were “grounding” the lines, which to me means you run a conducting cable down to a metal stake in the ground. It doesn’t seem like you grounded anything. ???
Our system is has a multi grounded neutral. That section of neutral is bonded to the pole ground on L1 and L2 as well as both those down guys.
Y not a atv for when your stuck doing "forest" or "woods" works?
My question is if that home was energized before the tree took out the line?
this was an abandoned home that has been empty for so long the roof fell in.
Whats the point of Grounding to a non continuous disconnected Neutral . If anything i would think that would be more dangerous if the line became hot the Neutral would become hot as well due to your ground bond .
The neutral is bonded to the pole grounds on structure L1 and L2 as well as those two down guys on L 2
10:00 What happened to the transformer?
Hah I'm impressed you pointed that out! When I arrived, I figured... oh crap, it's on the ground somewhere!
Best we can figure is a contractor must have removed it during storm work??🤔 That or thieves are getting very crafty.
I was also wondering
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So, why is Bob declining?
LOL