Elections360 Weekly | Heated crime debate as parties square off in Western Cape

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
  • On tonight's elections debate, political parties debate about the high rate of crime in the country. The debate was held at Langa Community hall in the Western Cape.
    ANC was represented by Bheki Cele, PA by Cheslyn Steenberg, DA by Ian Cameron, EFF by Nazier Paulsen, Good Party was represented by Brett Herron and Al Jama-ah by Advocate Shameemah Salie.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

Komentáře • 161

  • @graham9794
    @graham9794 Před 29 dny +19

    It's confirmed!! South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 Před měsícem +20

    Once you actually send the criminals to jail, it will make sense!!!

  • @vt5371
    @vt5371 Před měsícem +18

    One of the worst "debate" I have seen so far!

    • @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756
      @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756 Před měsícem +5

      Agreed, it is a waste of time, no real depth of getting to answers, cheap politicking.
      Lack of fundamental understanding even by the questions from the crowds, with very obvious bias,

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 Před měsícem +21

    Bheki can’t even talk properly time to go on pension!

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem +3

      Jail rather

    • @sabelosphalas1747
      @sabelosphalas1747 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@veronicakarstel9126😂😂😂

    • @DrRed-dj6or
      @DrRed-dj6or Před 28 dny +1

      You are obviously bias

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 Před 28 dny

      ​@@DrRed-dj6orand you are not?

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před 26 dny

      AGREE with you Very much too old man should be long time on PENSION all sleeping behind the Desktop 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 Před měsícem +16

    ANC Exitpolls what a USELESSS Ministers failed State all around 😩😩

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 Před měsícem +32

    ANC is a failure in every department!

  • @ross7901
    @ross7901 Před měsícem +9

    Brett Heron's political slogan should be: 'I should know better'

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith Před 27 dny +6

    What is the point of having a clock if the debaters only talk louder when asked to stop 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @Jitesh_Dayal
    @Jitesh_Dayal Před měsícem +29

    The failure is on the stage. ANC man Cele

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před 26 dny

      That Cele ANC should be long time on PENSION all get free salaris which does'nt presenteren

  • @devilliersduplessis7904
    @devilliersduplessis7904 Před měsícem +12

    Go Iron Cameroon!

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 Před měsícem +35

    Bheki has no idea what he is talking about!!!

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před měsícem +3

      Bheki talking Dementetion behind the Desktop old these ex Présidenten 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @onlyeverydaysa5029
      @onlyeverydaysa5029 Před 26 dny +1

      Yes these different departments don't speak to each other and it shows.

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před 26 dny

      @@onlyeverydaysa5029 AGREE with you i belief its different departements they don't discussiëren with each others that is Why its mess intolerant altogether

  • @Stewylewy
    @Stewylewy Před měsícem +7

    Everything in this video could have been summarised in 15 minutes.
    Between the transparent politicking of the speakers to the chaos of the crowd and the failure to manage the debate, this is a snapshot of what is wrong with South African politics.

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv Před měsícem +13

    People keep talking about wanting policing resources in their area... do they pay tax? Do thy pay rates and levies to the municipality?
    All the informal settlements that are just a problem, do they contribute ANYTHING at all to the taxbase that pays for police? No.
    Then they must shut up.

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem +2

      Get what you pay for. Everything free and most fled EC to become a burden to us ratepayers

    • @kambuyiblack7462
      @kambuyiblack7462 Před 28 dny

      @veronicakarstel9126 You sound delusional. Townships are big contributers to South Africas economy. The police department is not funded based on how much property levies and taxes you pay. Read the budget speech. Since crime is destroying our economy and these communities are sources of some criminals, members of these communities feel that more policing will mitigate some of the extreme forms of criminality in their area. Your comment indicates to me you do not recognise these people in townships as human beings worthy of basic rights. You talk about money when the conversation is about human lives and longterm stability. There is no law prohibiting the free movement of any South Africa to greener pastures. Western Cape is not an independent state nor will it ever become one - more and more black people will migrate there until you can't tell who is black and who is not, that will help you from discriminating people based on the colour of their skin.

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 Před 28 dny

      ​@@kambuyiblack7462Yeah black people voted for the ANC in the EC and then moved to greener pastures. Like they did 300 years ago. Where does the budget gets its income from? Taxes! You vote on the basis of race only, where are you going to move once the WC looks like the EC? Zim?

  • @claudettebirkett1302
    @claudettebirkett1302 Před měsícem +8

    Why is United Independent Movement never invited to participate on this platform ? Always the same old political party's.. we need fresh young leaders with solutions. It is time for change. We are tired if anc, eff , Al Jamah !

  • @SandraVanEeden
    @SandraVanEeden Před měsícem +7

    Those supporters of the anc, you should ask one of them what solutions do they have.

  • @donreebyr
    @donreebyr Před 28 dny +5

    Why is this guy of pa say the Da can't do nothing who is running this country isn't it ANC say anc can't solve problems in this country if the Da was running this this country you will have seen law and order

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 Před 26 dny +3

    Get rid if cele

  • @PingPong-Jhb
    @PingPong-Jhb Před 28 dny +3

    The questions are being asked the wrong people, there is nothing we will get from these ones.

  • @johannel9982
    @johannel9982 Před měsícem +7

    Listening to the majority of the supporters it is clear they don't accept criminal behaviour is a wilful act. I now understand why it was policed the way it was before 1994 and why we could sleep safe at night in those days

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 Před měsícem +5

    EFF must demand Police on His Minister Président ANC" Inpowerment Not demand Police assistent on DA??

  • @chrisbadenhorst5304
    @chrisbadenhorst5304 Před 29 dny +16

    What boggles my mind is how all these political parties say "The DA has failed in policing".
    Last time I checked the SAPS is part of government.
    And the ANC is government, the DA is NOT the government.
    So all these smart arses actually just pointed out how stupid they are AND how incompetent the anc is.

  • @LebohangPonoane6346
    @LebohangPonoane6346 Před měsícem +4

    Criminals are arrested, but Department of Justice take them out on min amount of money. Whilst the victims and communities in blacks and coloureds areas are suffering.

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 Před měsícem +17

    Thank you DA 🙏 #voteDA #rescueSA 🙏🇿🇦💙

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv Před měsícem +4

    41:00 So officers who can't drive or use a gun were fired and ANC is upset? See why we have problems in South Africa? "They should have been assisted"... assisted to what? Forge passes?

  • @vdw_12500
    @vdw_12500 Před měsícem +7

    Go DA!!!!

  • @eldenrossouw314
    @eldenrossouw314 Před 27 dny +3

    Bheki Cele "we have arrested 600 thousand and something criminals" but they dont arrest themselves

  • @JCdevoss
    @JCdevoss Před měsícem +2

    This is basically a debate between the DA and the ANC and it's coalition parties (including Al Jamah)

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 27 dny +2

    Ian Cameron for police

  • @elizemeissenheimer8345
    @elizemeissenheimer8345 Před měsícem +3

    Aljamah advovate100% for you👍👍👍

  • @user-ux3ed3ni1p
    @user-ux3ed3ni1p Před měsícem +2

    Clearly, these institutions are not communicating and working together and hence the people suffer. Clearly, there is a benefit to the chaos.

  • @MuhammadNoorMia
    @MuhammadNoorMia Před měsícem +5

    Why is NCC not on the panel ??

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 Před měsícem +3

      They will be shocked when the discounted NCC takes away a lot of the DA votes in the WC.

    • @3ch0ri0t9
      @3ch0ri0t9 Před měsícem +1

      PA taking alot from DA

  • @hennie4122
    @hennie4122 Před měsícem +3

    Staan sement vas! Ons baiza nie! Patriotic Alliance

  • @ethomas6598
    @ethomas6598 Před 28 dny +2

    If Ian Cameron did not stand up against Bheki Nckele, none of these parties would be so against Western Cape. Why are they not trying to prove themselves by building up a small Town so that we can see just how well they can govern. Western cape government has already proved it can govern, Criminal run parties will just destroy Western cape.
    Well done DA

  • @ThuIaniNgobeni
    @ThuIaniNgobeni Před 26 dny +1

    Ian Cameron is the man

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem +3

    Unemployable but dance. Stunted brain growth

    • @vusikhawula5686
      @vusikhawula5686 Před 27 dny

      And you want black people to vote for your DA.. Yet you can't even hide your racism and white supremism bigotry

  • @CassidayJacobs
    @CassidayJacobs Před měsícem +7

    Ek Baiza Nie!

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 27 dny +1

    DA to rescue SA

  • @kholiswambozi9997
    @kholiswambozi9997 Před měsícem +5

    ANC and DA🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith Před 28 dny +1

    Silly to ask a criminal how to get rid of crime in South Africa. The ANC are contributing to SA's high crime rates so how can we expect them to fix it??

  • @magezapc493
    @magezapc493 Před 24 dny

    Besides the incompetency, particularly from the 'General', these panelist all of them lack professionalism. Their parties could have sent bettter people!!! Worst debate ever.

  • @user-ku8kf9yy5g
    @user-ku8kf9yy5g Před měsícem +2

    It all start at home, we should teach our family, kids, neighborhood, citizens that crime is wrong, this criminals have parents family, we complain about crime and we protect them, we don't assist but we know, we with hold information, most of us is part of the problem, we the citizens protect this criminals.

  • @AustinGates1996
    @AustinGates1996 Před měsícem +17

    Gayton's ability to engage in dialogue with both top global executives and gang leaders to negotiate terms of peace underscores his unique position to lead South Africa forward and effectively address crime.

    • @devilliersduplessis7904
      @devilliersduplessis7904 Před měsícem +3

      Something about leopards and spits. His track records isn't great either, maybe if he partnered with someone morale with a track record?

  • @renaldonoland2298
    @renaldonoland2298 Před měsícem +15

    PA has got my vote.

  • @karthi7016
    @karthi7016 Před 28 dny +1

    80+murders a day... We are a murderous bunch...

  • @pitsopitso1857
    @pitsopitso1857 Před 24 dny

    They cud have just invited ANC and DA only...😂

  • @arnoldduncan4358
    @arnoldduncan4358 Před měsícem +3

    The muslim lady this is for you don't blame the DA some of your Coments are incorrect

  • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
    @AndrewMcFarlane_1 Před měsícem +4

    R30k per hour for a drone? Herron has no idea

  • @beingbantu7528
    @beingbantu7528 Před měsícem +2

    Where is my party actionSA 💚💚💚

  • @mothusiemangselemane3629
    @mothusiemangselemane3629 Před 27 dny +1

    failed to answer Q2

  • @rushmore100
    @rushmore100 Před 28 dny +2

    Its great that so many political parties think the DA is the national government.

  • @thandugonose9769
    @thandugonose9769 Před měsícem +1

    We are never gonna win the fight against crime in SA as long as we are doing this politicking. Crime in SA has affects everyone and we must stand together to fight it instead of blaming each other, otherwise there will be no country for our kids.

  • @keaganscott5956
    @keaganscott5956 Před měsícem +1

    Bheki can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag...

  • @hlesko3254
    @hlesko3254 Před 29 dny +1

    SA never answered one question concerning townships

  • @sokopinions
    @sokopinions Před 28 dny +1

    And that's SAs minister everybody!!!! 😅

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q Před měsícem +19

    Malema for president

    • @HemiJB91
      @HemiJB91 Před měsícem +3

      Lol might as well vote anc

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem

      EFF are losing votes

    • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
      @BeleniYara-ow2zq Před 28 dny +1

      EFF 🇿🇦💯🔥❤🌟 is ready to govern this country
      My vote belong to EFF ❤ 🇿🇦

  • @zwelonkelikhecks9075
    @zwelonkelikhecks9075 Před měsícem +9

    EFF all the way come 29 May we are ready ❤❤❤

  • @paulrowe9486
    @paulrowe9486 Před 26 dny

    Cele is am embarassment to the whole nation ???

  • @claradamons399
    @claradamons399 Před 28 dny +1

    Ice Vehicles are used as public transport thats why our police transport are always out of order.

  • @fancyIOP
    @fancyIOP Před 29 dny +2

    LOL, Mama Zille.

  • @111MRrj
    @111MRrj Před měsícem +3

    Bheki moet slaap

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 27 dny +1

    Some coloureds choose gangsterism, it's power for a whie

  • @user-mg3pp7bz1e
    @user-mg3pp7bz1e Před měsícem +1

    Crime😢crime😢crime who will listen 2 our cries, cry my beloved people cry my beloved country CRIME IS OUT OF HAND the old man must go and rest he can't do anything he is tired, we tired 2 b tired of CRIME 😢😢😢😢😢

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před měsícem

      I m afraid Crime Yours Minister Bheki Cele Don't take his Nation serieus they playing games with people which is Very Sad situation scarying living 🤔

  • @BerlineRoseberry
    @BerlineRoseberry Před měsícem +3

    Political parties should campaign until the elections. After elections whoever is in power should stop politics and start to service the people. They can only win crime if they put their ideas and resources together and not focusing on individual political parties of who is the winner. Why can the army not be utilized to assist gang related crime ridden areas in the country. The current government have no political will to some crime or gaangsterism as the majority crimes are I the so-called colored mixed communities who does not support the current government. The government is also claiming taxes on those insurance claims.
    ie

    • @icno123
      @icno123 Před měsícem +1

      No no this is banana south africa you can steal, loot, be corrupt and be incompetent but they will still vote for the AXIS OF EVIL 👹 EFF MK ANC = Low IQ PPL 😹

  • @ayandamvana6249
    @ayandamvana6249 Před měsícem +12

    EFF will fight crime ⚫🔴🟢

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem +5

      Criminals EFF

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k Před měsícem +3

      Chest pain's..

    • @ferasmus1
      @ferasmus1 Před 29 dny +3

      Pay back the VBS stolen money @ EFF

    • @ayandamvana6249
      @ayandamvana6249 Před 27 dny

      @@ferasmus1 You being the only one still on VBS should tell you 🤣🤣🤣 Either you're behind or you're dumb. You decide

  • @dineshanpillay5944
    @dineshanpillay5944 Před měsícem +1

    Anc pays a lot for puppets

  • @jadepalmer6338
    @jadepalmer6338 Před 26 dny

    How can SA reclaim their streets? 🤔
    First off we need a minister of police that's not a gangster
    Then we need police who are fit enough to run after the criminals
    And not take bribes from the criminals or I should say not take cool drink money
    We need visibility not cops who are sitting at the station falling asleep in their chairs and get naar with you coming for an affidavit

  • @user-tb4jv3tl4v
    @user-tb4jv3tl4v Před 28 dny +1

    bheki hambolala

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 Před 29 dny +2

    The DA biggest disappointment is that they deliver services to areas that are fully developed and leave those that less developed.

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 Před měsícem +1

    Are we supposed to understand these people? No wonder they don't get jobs

  • @moosesnWoop
    @moosesnWoop Před měsícem +2

    IDK how cele can defend his work

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 Před měsícem

      Cele His crazy Minister His defending himself absoluut nonsense speeched less full óf lies with corruption all those ANC Leaders Exitpolls

  • @thandolwethumlamla2740

    the DA boertjie has astrong racist character and we would never trust him

  • @breightscott
    @breightscott Před měsícem +6

    Lol ANC is a Joke and so is Al Jamah of lets not forget EFF. PA FOR THE WIN

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k Před měsícem

      Party of abahumbe as their manifesto it has no capacity to handle its own..
      Party of mafias interested to enrich its owners with our mines..

  • @tinopopsyhove6747
    @tinopopsyhove6747 Před 23 dny

    EFF ❤🎉😂

  • @YongaShologu-he9jj
    @YongaShologu-he9jj Před 29 dny +1

    Monday we want all the presidents not just party members we want to see ramaphosas ability to debate

  • @fanelepatrick1438
    @fanelepatrick1438 Před 29 dny

    Why now?

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 Před 26 dny

    What rubbish that western cape is excluding people

  • @kgomotsomfisa7038
    @kgomotsomfisa7038 Před měsícem +8

    EFF all the way

  • @TheGuitarNewby
    @TheGuitarNewby Před měsícem

    The fact of the matter is that only one of the panelists actually do work on the ground, and are involved in the communities. The rest are just yapping rhetoric.

  • @babolico9354
    @babolico9354 Před 27 dny +1

    EFF VIVA EFF 2024

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q Před měsícem +9

    Vivha eff

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 Před 29 dny

    Even those who do not want to admit know that The EFF is the only capacitated Organisation to lead SA

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 Před 29 dny

    DONT BE SO JEALOUS OF THE ANC

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 Před měsícem +5

    DA 👎👎

    • @badboy15nd
      @badboy15nd Před 29 dny +1

      The DA is the only political party that can save South Africa.❤

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 Před 23 dny

      And when DA is gone then there will be no province to run to

    • @zandigaga393
      @zandigaga393 Před 23 dny

      @carl4017 Services only stay within the boarders of an urban suburb in any DA ran municipality especially in the western cape

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 Před 23 dny

      @@zandigaga393 you mean services go to the people paying for those services within those urban areas. Large majority of DAs spending go on informal settlements despite the fact that they don't always pay for the services. If rate payers don't get serviced, they leave. How else do you expect the DA to keep rate payers in wp without giving them what they paid for?

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 Před 29 dny

    THE ANC IS BOBAAS😂

  • @LehlohonoloCalf
    @LehlohonoloCalf Před 28 dny

    viva ANC

  • @ayandaquku900
    @ayandaquku900 Před 27 dny

    Benzele bani?only white rich people, PANTSI NGE DDDDAAAA...DA PANTSI, VIVA MKONTO VIVA, FORWARD NGE MK PARTY PAMBILI ASIJIKI ASOYIKI SIYAYA, ASIBOYIKI SIYABAFUNA, AMANDLA

  • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
    @BeleniYara-ow2zq Před 28 dny

    I hope you didn't use money for this useless debate
    Even school kids could debate much better than those political parties except the EFF
    EFF 🇿🇦 EFF ❤

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 Před měsícem +1

    💛🖤💚Viva ANC

  • @TheReintech
    @TheReintech Před 25 dny

    This is a waste of time

  • @user-ds4mt9hf2z
    @user-ds4mt9hf2z Před 21 dnem

    We have dumped all non anc votes so that only anc wins viva anc viva

  • @icno123
    @icno123 Před měsícem +3

    29:15 HIGH QUALITY POLITICIAN 🏆

  • @khanyiso514
    @khanyiso514 Před měsícem +8

    VivaEFF viva!!❤❤❤

    • @user-bt6ex7kw5v
      @user-bt6ex7kw5v Před měsícem

      Rubbish EFF adding to crime with its foreigners

  • @blueberryhill6948
    @blueberryhill6948 Před měsícem +3

    The province to lead all provinces ❤❤❤❤ The Western Cape 💅🏾🫶🏽💅🏾🫶🏽👍🏽