BEST ORBITAL & EAGLE STRATAGEM TIER LIST AFTER UPDATE VS TERMINIDS - HELLDIVERS 2 META STRATAGEMS
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The best Stratagem Tier list in Helldivers 2 for ENDGAME for Terminids! In this video im going over the BEst Orbital stratagems in Helldivers 2 combined with the Best eagle stratagems in Helldivers 2! I play solo helldive all the time and test everything for A LOT of hours and these are some of the BEST STRATAGEMS IN THE GAME! enjoy!
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0:00 - Intro
1:04 - Tier List
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One factor to consider is managing eagle rearm. I typically only bring one eagle stratagem so that the rearm starts as soon as I'm out of charges. This makes things like Airburst and Gas strike natural pairs with the 500kg or Airstrike, even though the Napalm is more powerful on its own.
I like to pair Airstrike with railcannon. Used to run quassar now I use the flamer because of how many behemoths run around. There is no way I wait for 2 shots on the quassar for 1 super charger... I remember when we got a free eagle strike (forgot what it was) but it prevented my airstrike from going into rearm because of it, It was annoying lol.
Agree, it could probably be properly managed with enough experience but I’d rather just take an orbital or defensive or something in it’s place
Yeah, the 70 second cooldown on the gas strike means it’s up for literally every bug breach regardless of your Eagle status. Definitely can work with a certain kind of build.
I agree only do 1-2 Eagles cause the Rearm isforgotten all the time.
the #1 problem I have with the gas orbital is it looks EXACTLY like the air color of the toxic foggy planet and people run in to it.
this right here!:D so many times I just run in hahahaha
in my experience (LV 110, i helldive on Lv 9 regularly) people run into gas all the times, on every planet. It boggles my mind
@@Phanterinoscause gas is slept on! It slaps and has such a low CD.
I feel you have underrated the Orbital Gatling Barrage not only is it great for droping on top of bug breaches but it will also kill shreaker nests and the spore spewer trees now. The cool down is so low that it is almost always available and yes while it dosen't kill chargers or bile titans it does kill the nursing and bile spewers and ive also seen it killing shreakers as well beaming them out the sky. not everyone likes running the plasma punisher and would rather like running guns like the sickle and incinerator and while these guns are capable of taking out bile spewers it usually takes the whole mag/ice to do so. so the orbital barrage gives a great way to deal with things that most people would want to run eagal air strike for that would end up over lapping with the 500 kg that most people run to take out titans. also seeng that there are far fewer titans now you need less things to deal with them then we used to need.
Absolutely. I love dropping this on a bug breach and piling up the kills.
Railcannon isn’t S tier that cooldown is brutal, can get almost 3 precision strikes in that time frame. It’s an A tier pick. It one shotting a behemoth charger means nothing special when we have flamethrower melting them in 3-4 seconds. If in the future it one shots bile titans than it may be S tier even with long cooldown because its throw and forget but for now its A tier
S tier: 500 KG Bomb (1 shots Biles), Gatling Barrage (Breach Crowd Control) and Precision Strike ( 1 shots and cooldown is similar to 500KG bomb with ship stratagem for 2 uses)
A Tier: Rocket Pods (strips armour in one hit most times then finish off with weapon and has 3 uses, only downside is it uses an eagle slot and most ppl only bring 1 eagle for auto rearm and Eagle 500KG exists) and Railcannon ( single use, more damage and will strip armor every time but still not enough to kill bile titan but can 1 shot behemoth charger). Eagle airstrike is also A tier (for bugs but S tier for bots for 1 shotting striders) but again 500 KG is just better when competing for eagle slot. Same goes for Napalm strike it’s an A tier as it’s great for crowd control but its value diminishes as it’s an eagle so again competes with 500KG bomb and Gatling barrage is orbital and does what it does while being an orbital
All other Eagles and Orbitals are B tier or lower
Glad that someone gives appreciation to the eagle rockets. Honestly I like them more than the railcannon, they both break the armor of titans but the rockets get 3 uses and lower cooldown. Only pro of the railcannon is one shotting chargers but I feel that doesn't compensate the long cooldown since other stratagems and support weapons can easily kill chargers without a 3 minute cooldown. I think that it should one shot bile titans
love the 110s right now!
I feel the Railcannon is no longer a S tier pick. The recent buff to the Precision Strike’s cooldown as well as the deploy time being cut in half from 4 seconds, makes it a lot more usable in heat of the moment situations. While also having a much shorter cooldown. The Railcannon now only really has the benefit of the auto-aim which honestly isn’t as good of a benefit when the Precision Strike does most other things better. More damage on a direct hit, has some capacity to deal with clustered groups of armored opponents, and can be used a lot more often. And the deploy time buff makes it a lot more easy to use for moving targets then it was before.
You get it. The Railgun is C Tier because:
- only damages 1 single Bile Titan wish there are not a lot of after the Patch anyway
- 210 Sec Cooldown (3-4 Gatling Barages, 2 500KG, 2 Prezision Strikes)
- Deals no Splash damge and only destroys a single Strukture if it even focuses on them (good luck 2 SchriekerNests left)
Thanks for the tier list! I've been loving the Orbital Precision Strike. It's a guaranteed Bile Titan killer for sure!
The one massive drawback of the precision strike who's just a better railcanon when you play it perfectly is that you will only be able to bring it 30% to 50% of the time due to Orbital stratagem scatter debuff... This thing invalidate it entierely and it's really really annoying when you just want to experience a stratagem that demands a bit of effort for a rewarding result, but no straight up unplayable...
Air strike should be S just for versatility. It can wipe hordes, deal with armored enemies and close bug holes. If your other anti heavy and horde options are down, air strike will deal with it
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I disagree with gas strike placement. Yes the napalm is better at the job. BUT dont forget that it depends on what other stuff you're bringing. If you already have an eagle, gas strike is better than napalm because the recharge isnt tied to the eagle rearm mechanic.
I mostly agree with the list accept for the disrespect on the 380 and gas strike. 90% of the time the 380 can clear an entire heavy bug nest by it's self, and gas strike thrown on breaches racks up kills like no other. Yes the napalm does what gas strike does but better, but C teir is disrespectful. I'd move napalm to A-S, Gas to A and 380 to A. But that's just me! Enjoyed the video tho!.
I feel like you are really underestimating orbital gas strike. Sure it's not as effective as napalm in a direct comparison, but it has low cooldown AND doesn't affect Eagle rearm
i get that, but if its not as good as Napalm Ill never use it:) just my opinion though
Completely agree. It basically erases bug breeches and has much more up time considering eagle rearms.
Gas Strike is highly underrated for bugs. When dropped quickly on a new bug breach I can consistently get 40-50+ kills and it frees up our team to focus on the mediums and heavys.
I came here to say this but you put it perfectly. If someone doesn’t see the utility and convenience of this stratagem it must be a skill issue 😅
Love the gas paired with Eagle Cluster or Airburst if you’re trying to take on chaff role. That high kill counter makes my heart sing!
Excellent Details - I might not always agree, but the way you present info makes me go retest something as opposed to dismissing it. Well done thank you.
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I’ve been running orbital precision strike pretty much every load out now. So versatile, quick cool down, unlimited uses. Those 2 seconds make all the difference. Combine it with the railcannon strike or if I want to be cinematic, the eagle airstrike, with my grenade launcher. I’m clearing missions solo.
Also, I know it wasn’t part of the buff but the breaker spray and pray is a lot of fun against the bugs. Surprised how much I’m liking it. All that ammo comes it handy lol
I love getting 100+ changes in a patch, and then in the next week or two getting entirely new tier list videos!
It's my favorite part of democracy.
Orbital railgun is the only way to reliably one shot a behemoth charger which is a nice bonus.
But it's cool down is a crime tbh..that strat is mid at best when you have like 9 chargers and bile titans coming at you
Spear seems pretty reliable so long as the charger is facing u and theres enough distance for it to come down after launch.
Only holds 4 rockets though and requires a lengthy reload.
@@MachoMaamRandallSandwich The reload is actually pretty quick and can be split into 2, the ammo is somewhat of an issue if u don’t regularly resupply or if u spam it, take ur time and be precise to get the most out of it. Also its missiles not rockets and recoiless rifle uses shells and not rockets.
Selling gatling barrage a little short. Takes out spore spewers and shrieker nests so you can save the 500 or other tools.
Love your videos man, watch them all the time 👍
thanks man
After the buff, 110 pod is arguably even better than the railcannon strike.
Smoke on planets with fire tornados like Hellmire put out the fire. Not a bad idea to have a teammate bring smoke on a fire planet
Gatling can also be used to destroy shriekers nest and spore spewers. It's not only designes to kill the ads.
It's a wonderful multitool considering its low cooldown.
Same goes for the strafing run.
i have to strongly disagree with the placement of gas over Napalm. Gas is insanely strong on a breach you can get 40 kills easy with it,
same goes for the Gatling barrage, that on a breach 40 kills easy. and that was before the update
Look forward to seeing your video like this for the automatons.
will do!
Laser when you’re playing with others is A tier .. it’s just so versatile and easy to use.. you never worry about it’s placement or friendly fire
With 2-3 other players in your team you’ll never need more than 3 lasers
It’s so good to use when you got a horde with 2 or more chargers on your ass
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I love that they buffed the Orbital Gatling Barrage. I started bringing it against Terminids to throw at bug breaches. Rack up 30 to 40 kills easy.
Something that I've noticed is that if you have multiple eagle stratagems, you HAVE to make sure that you're aware of what you use (if you have 500KG, 100 rocket pods, and a cluster bomb, if you use both 500KG drops or 3 110 rocket pods, and you have 3 cluster bombs left, you have to wait to rearm the eagle... either manually rearming (this will rearm ALL eagle stratagems) or until your other Eagle stratagems are on cooldown). So just something to keep mind of if you're having multiple Eagle strats :)
The gas strike 13:23 only needs 10 extra seconds to be S tier and close all bug holes and melt those fascist tin-can
I really like the smoke eagle air strike combine with the crossbow specifically on search and destroy missions. Otherwise it's useless against the bugs.
How you can put railgun over precision, if precision can more reliably and more often kill bile titans and even kill more enemies at once?
I think the disconnect between people is what stratagems can do vs what they’re suppose to do, napalm gets minus points to him because it doesn’t deal with heavies but it’s high tier for what it’s suppose to do, all comes down to what you think about that discrepancy
yup:) its all about playstyles as well right?
Ive been running napalm gattling and rail strike and loving it
I like your tier. It lines up somewhat the same as I would rate these strategems.
Only thing is the Eagle 110mm pods, it should be C-D tier due to its inability to one shot chargers and bile titans.
But yeah it combos quite well with railcannon, you are sacrificing 2 strat slots and cooldown, though.
Pretty much a against Bile Titan tier list and Precision isn't even S lol. It's a better and faster 500kg there no need to even run 500kg now if you have OPS. OPS, Gatling or Railcannon (would pick railcannon for those new chargers), pretty much always Quasar, 4th slot depends on your main weapon (shield/laser rover or flamethrower whatever) and lvl 9 is not a problem vs Bugs. Bots I don't give a shit they are annoying and boring.
Hear me out:
210 Sec cooldown to not even kill a bile titan. You can get 2 500k bombs that onehit it and also destroy multiple buildings or deal splash damage. The RailGun is C Tier with that cooldown. Gatlingbarage can spawncamp breaches destroy bug structures now and only has a 70 sec cooldown + it already starts the cooldown after being activated meaning you only have 55sec downtime. It also deals some armor pin so 4 gatling barages or 1 railgun shot. THis is oviousely S Tier hands down.
Rocketpods dont kill anything and have the same charges as a easgle airstrike. I dont wanna be forced to use that plasma primary you are oviousely loving so much so Rocketpods are clearly not worth it if they just give you 3 pods. Its high C Tier at best (Only damages a single Target). Every Strategem is good at a specific cooldown but the Railgun and Rocketpods dont do enoth to put them anywere other than C Tier while the Gatlingbarage is spammable and usable in any Situation now. They greatly reduced the ammount of armored Targets to the Railgun and Rocketpods are more irrelevant than ever. The Gasstrike can destroy structures has the longest active Time and dot realy short cooldown that starts on impact and you can run through it with stimms unlike napalm wish kills you to quick. Bugs also cant jump over it and it has less than 1 min downtime. Oviousely A or S Tier against Bugs.
rail gun is C tier yes... in a different dimension where its shit :D
@@Crazymrpipz like this one were it has a 210 sec cooldown and cant even kill a bile titan.
Why does the thumbnail give me "you look like a good joe." Vibe 😂
Line the napalm for bugs when running solo but agree with the updated list. 500 is such a beast!!
how is he taking out bile titans with the punisher. I'm trying to shoot them on the shoulder like he is but can't pull it off
im taking it out cause thea rmor is cracked, once u have cracked the armor you just keep hitting the shoulder untill you see the red mark which indicates it hit, if ur seeing shield signs it means its being deflected and ur dealing 0 damage
I still really like Orbital gatling to give myself a bit more breathing room to deal with the heavies myself. Plus you don't have to worry about Eagle rearns when you're using the 500kg. Personally I would have it in A. Gas is msybe a tier too low as well. Otherwise solid list!
THANKS MAN
do you play Helldive?
@@Troupe_Master I'm lazy and run 8 normally lol
New player questions:
What is the difference between Eagle Airstrike and Rocket Pods ?
Why does the Orbital Precision Strike have a 5 second delay from red pillar to explosion when the text says 2 seconds ?
Thanks.
Rocket pods is like the orbital railgun, but with Eagles so you've got 3 to 4 uses before it goes into cooldown.
Eagles strike drop 5 to 6 bombs (I believe), perpendicular to the direction you threw it.
Both Can close fabricators and bug holes.
@@akaraziel Eagle Strike Rocket Pods seem to do the exact same thing.... Why do both exist ?
@@richt.2966 not at all.
Rocket pods is for précision strike on the biggest threat near the position.
Eagles air strike is carpet bombing an area.
My thanks
Orbital gatling not being in A tier kind of invalidates this entire list considering the recent changes. Can't reliably kill biles so it isn't S tier, but it's S tier in every other manner.
we agree to disagree
I just started playing and only level 10. Anyone able to suggest which stratagems would be best to get first? I kinda suck and still playing on medium.
I'm not sure determining the placement in the tierlist based on how well it kills bile titans is necessarily the best approach.
Gatling and p strike are a solid combo
the Cluster needs to be at very least on the same level of the AStriker. Napalm is a odd case for CC and its better to just fire the Flamethrower down. 380mm is hittin better than the 120mm, just shouldnt be used close to team, it clear heavy nets and outposts, what the 120mm cant do while also killing team if used close by
I think youre the only helldivers youtuber I like...
Soooo Lets pray that I agree with your takes xd
Yes the Napalm is better but you can use the Cluster more times so it kind of evens out, no? I can throw the clusters a total of 10 times per mission that is really a lot. Napalm is 6 times I think?
I would say so personally but it’s probably more of a nuanced thing
exactly my tier list
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Totally disagree with Gas, put some respect on its name C tier smdh. Napalm is great but it gets into your eagle Rearm that people forget about. Breaches happen so close on 9 that it’s very easy to lead a choke point and collect kills. Low CD. Pretty much same effect as fire on a Charger, neither crack armor so it just eats the meat. If only take napalm on the current Drill locations because that has random insane mobbing breaches around the drill.
I hate the 500 the radius is only 30 meters if that and sometimes it feels less
Why is the eagle airstrike not S tier? Its versatility is unmatched and it can take down every bug and structure in the game. I understand that only one doesn’t kill a bile titan, but in your build, as a last resort since everything is not gonna go as you want in a helldive game, you can kill a bile titan when it’s weakened, or break its armor.
Idk man. I feel like your sleeping on the Gas strike. For one, its a very short cooldown to the point where it usually comes back up before your next bug breach. For another, you drop it on the first site of a bug breach and it will kill the ads coming out. Thirdly, the gas actually lingers around longer than people think it does.
380 Roulette makes the 380 S tier. The shear enjoyment of raining down pain cannot be topped. I agree though it's a bot weapon.
Shot the bile titan shoulder with an eruptor just before its about to spew, this will crack its back amour severally, then finish with a few more shots to the damaged area. Thank me later 🎉
imo orb railgun is a bit overrated, it’s not bad but it’s like a low S tier, I’d rather take precision strike or 500 kg since it can do more albeit more difficult to use, if railgun had 2 minute cd and insta killed bile titans I would say it’s mid or high s tier
Gatling should be S tier.
def not S:) at endgame a lot fo biles and chargers running around it doesnt do much cause they keep moving, its good though
I use orbital precision for biles, quasar for chargers (sometimes the precision) and when a bug breach happens I throw the gatling at it and get around 40 easy kills.
@@Crazymrpipzthing is, it's a great clearing strat AND it holds down areas as well as 1. Objective destroyer and 2. Can also finish off heavies or chunk their health
It literally does everything with low CD and low call in time
Imo shines even more vs bots because of the defensive capabilities. Very clutch stratagem
Don't see how a strat that is this well rounded can't be at least A tier (imo)
It's the versatility that makes it in my opinion S tier many different situations where it's effective @@xzackly7131
Idk I was using it alot against the bots and it didn't seems to be doing jack shite and I used it against hordes of the things@@xzackly7131
You cant find better solution on search and destroy(especially on bots) than 380 and 120.
If Napalm isnt S tier against bugs i dont know what else to believe in
for me personally its one of the best, but in order to be S tier for me personally it needs to deal with chargers and Biles, but thats just a me thing :D
@Crazymrpipz everything else I'm carrying deals with chargers and BTs lol. Napalm puts up a wall of fire between me and the bugs to kite them through, that's unbeatable imo
110 pods have been nerfed. 600 damage is greater than 250 no question. 50% of 600 is 300 VS 100% of 250 which is 250. NERF.
Airburst is like Clusterbomb for the weak. Go ahead, manage to get 3 teamkills with it and complain when my 40 kill cluster strike knocks you over because you weren't paying attention.
They need to make an eagle poison air strike
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Orbital Rail Cannon strike is NOT S-Tier considering how shit the targetting is on that thing. Orbital Laser IS S tier, and superior.
if you have a probblem with a AUTO TRACKING instant damage orbital in terms of targeting, ur most likely throwing it wrong
@@Crazymrpipz Im hitting Titans directly with 500kgs meanwhile the Rail Cannon is zapping chaff alongside them half the time. Not to mention their cool down time is outclassed by other strategems able to take down titans. You miss with that attempted PEBCAK comment
@@paradigmshift7 there was no attempt, thats a fact:) railcannon misses very rarely, and if throw it to far from the target thats when it does
@@Crazymrpipz Lol says the guy who ranks Rail Cannon strike over Laser.
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Airburst and gatling should be A tier
nah but they are good
380mm >> 120 mm.
Bigger area, stronger explosions, longer CC and the most important same CD.
not vs bugs
Against automaton bases yes and maybe against those bigger nests
I agree. They really need to cut the CD of the 120 and make it fire faster.
@@CrazymrpipzThat’s what I thought at first but after using it on heavy nests, or even medium, it does wonders. And honestly with communication, it’s pretty good on a bug breach too.
Problem is. Napalm exists lol put that on a shirt 👕
Lmao getling, dude its gatling gAtling
The only tier list that matters tbh...
380 at C 😂😂😂 Airburst at C?? Nah
yup
I disagree with a lot here ngl
All rubbish
thats the spirit 😂😂😂