So where are you taking your car now? I have a very good friend but he's not cheap, but he's also very reasonable, and his word is bond, he is as honest as the day is long.
Ehhh sounds like his uncle was unknowingly an enabler. It being his Uncle's shop, his uncle should be commanding how many cars he takes on and be on his ass when he clearly isn't finishing them. People talk I'm sure his uncle was told by other stalls that the kid was a problem
I was called a scammer before but I gave back the customer money, car, and the customer stole my pair of Recaro seats. He say to compensate for the lost he endure. I closed shop after a month and wasn't able to pay my mechanic. I end up looking for a 9 to 5 job to rethink it over.
This happened to me before. I lost my car found it 7 months later at a tow yard completely parted out lost almost 10k worth parts. That killed me but the lesson I learned is work on your own stuff.
I know how bad it is losing everything to these scammers. I've been there before but was referred to @ifwinternational who helped me recovered everything. You should try them too
This brings back some bad memories, I worked for a shop like this. They would take a deposit for a new project to pay for another older project. They would get money to order parts then not order them. Didn't know what was going on until customers started coming in the shop giving me shit for not working on their cars. Shop closed shortly after. Employees never got paid and customers had to fight to get their cars. These shops are everywhere. Got tired of seeing people getting ripped off so I started my own shop. Now I'm dealing with people that want a good job but don't want to pay for it. Can't win sometimes.
Sad truth, a lot of shops do this. Usually projects. They take deposits, and take their sweet time never finish. When they need money, they do 2-4 hours and charge the client, then stop. 80% of the time they got gambling or drug addiction.
Yup when in doubt say ut a text and ask fo confirmation. And or video the handshake and deal. Very few but us handshaker deal makers still exist. Sadly dying breed.
@@JubeeHS13 When you pop up at their home, Deep and let them know they cant breathe. They tend to find your money. Hell make them sign their car over to you. Pressure break pipes. You have to be about that life, when its about your money.
One man show with 25-30 cars is craaaazy. I feel like some of these guys just saw the price and didnt do their homework. Hopefully they do get justice tho.
Yeah you're right I had a co worker who stopped going to work & when I spoke to him he'd say yeah I'm gonna be back to work & he didn't sound right, he later overdosed in his house & died this was about 4 years ago now
This was my exact fear...so I just did my research & started working on my own car & I have to say it's coming along nicely...don't be afraid to try it on ur own
@ybnalex9628 I ended up purchasing paint guns, hoses, compressor, sanding blocks, sandpaper, youtube has alot of good tutorials that helped me along the way, I also have a friend who is an awesome painter that gave sum good info, my advice to you is get an old fender & practice on that before you start on ur own car, always remember if you mess up u can always sand & respray
WOW. Sad that's the way some people do business. These fooz out here don't get it, play with the wrong person's money and you put ur life in danger.🤷🏾♂️
This is called deposit scam, becareful when you want to send a car for a paint you need to make sure its finish within a time frame, don't sign any paper that doesn't tell when the car is finish painted
That's so crazy,,, Jay should concentrate moving very far away or hiding for a very very long time. You don't play with a man's money, vehicle/vehicle's or his woman
This is what I was afraid would happen when I was looking for a shop to put a motor in my Q50 3.0t. Took me over a year to find a shop, and they delivered perfectly. They now have a customer for life.
Just something you unfortunately have to expect now days . As unfortunate as it even is . Can’t really trust anyone , and that’s not to be taken lightly what some ever . Best of luck to you fellas on the journey to find those whips . Hope they all turn up . And for Martinez, my boy …. Sell the business and skip town before someone shows you exactly why you don’t do what you did dawg .
I really hope that ALL OF YOU GET YOUR EXPENSIVE STUFF BACK!! I'm sorry all of you went through that. I'm in the process of building my 95 SC300 because all of your cars inspire me.
That guy who owns the CTS-V found his car down the street fcked off with spider webs through the whole interior.. its cooked bad bad. This sh1t wild like it came straight out of a fckin movie 😂 that's V is fckin dope too.. well was anyway 😂
Thats crazy! I know where that general area is at. I was a delivery driver and we used to go there to devliver parts to a couple of the body shops around there. I would suggest Image Paint and body off 47th & Franklin. He's a very good family friend that used to paint show cars, but he's pricey. He's been around since maybe before I was born, around 30+ years. He was a one man operation for a while, so you'll have to schedule something so he can take a look at your car. His name is Brian and my name is Christopher K.
When he was talking about doing the work and time frames in that last video, I was like duuuuuude... there's no way he is doing that amount of work in that time frame. Red flags all over the place.
That’s the part that ALL these dudes aren’t talking about. Love their content but they’re paying cheap prices and expecting this guy to do top quality work, and deal with custom body kits. They need to go to a high end paint shop, and not these Facebook Marketplace ass painters.
I’m in shock you of all people got scammed ,it’s really bad but it’s happening all over the place I got a phone call about safety work on my flat the scammer not realising my flat is council and we just had a major electric and fire upgrade post grenfell ,I hope it all works out bro love your channel Mark. (U.K.)😊
dont ever leave a deposit!!! this is not the only shop that does this...i live in the IE in CA and shops out here do the same stuff!!Shops like this will always make false promises and tell you when its going to be done but it will never get done!!
I wouldn't expect that bodykit to be fitted for a minimum of 5k - 10k, fiberglass parts can very poor fit up and take a ton of time to work on, unfortunately its just reality.
Getting into the auto body/paint spraying industry now. Plan on running my future business exactly how you explained in the end. What painter j didn’t understand is if he just delivered one the few cars he had a deposit on he could’ve been booked for the next couple years lol. He had enough cars lined up to make a comfortable living and messed it all up.
Suuuuucks bro bro! Sounds like what I went through. Bro said he could swap a 16v 4age in my starlet in 3 months top, took almost a year and some change, car was over heating when I got it back, leaking coolant, electrical didn't work, used 1 wire color for the whole engine harness, welded oil pan on engine block. Almost 2 months after I got the car back, it blew out 2 pistons out the block. And he kept some of my oem starlet parts and claimed it never had them on the car. This dude was in San jose
My Lil. Bro up in NYC would have had your shit running in peak condition. I only fuck with drag racers and Kate from Brooklyn do nothing but race and build nice cars. I'm in the south now and ,I'm stuck building my own car now without good help🫤👎🏿✊🏿
@@monsterthekid1081 daang. Yeah I was young and barely getting into the swap game, I didn't know any better. Now I know how to handle it. Still having to do it myself too
Wow....I just can't believe this...after that Mike myke have said good things about him...smh...yup, I'll never pay upfront..and shop who takes one too may project at one time..that's already a no no...FRAUD!!!
All of you are capable of doing your own work. I would love to have a place where I could teach car people to do their own body and paint. I feels great when you’re laying paint over your own bodywork. I pray everyone gets their cars finished correctly. People like this are leaches on us all
Thing is.. i get him taking the cars in.. he was getting alot of exposure and it was probably best to take them all in rather than deny any and they go elsewhere.. But in doing that, u gotta keep pumping the cars out at a decent rate.. Not crazy fast, but at a decent rate.. if he just covered his fees, not fuck off his money, and just do the work.. he woulda been setttt Like 10 employees doing the work for him by next year set 🤦🏾♂️
It’s crazy‼️same thing happened in my town. With big money 20-30K deposits. SANTA ROSA Ca. On November 21 2017, West Coast Auto Craft business owner Christopher Miranda, 43, of Winsor, was sentenced to 15 years, and 4 months in state prison and ordered to pay restitution which is expected to total approximately $850,000
I've been following this build since you started it and I hate to say it but that guy gave me the wrong vibes from the get go. The way he only responded with yep, yep, sure, ok, yea. Really put me off. I thought either he's the owner and doesn't really work on the cars or he has no idea what he's doing. As a contractor myself I tend to have to talk with home owners quite a bit and explain what im doing or why i'm doing things a certain way and if they happen to ask I have a full detailed conversation about their vision and plans with them. Never ok, ya, sure, alright
dude needs jail tbh the amount of ppl that got scammed out of money and there cars is actually insane I would’ve thought this place was a chop shop if I didn’t know what was going on hopefully everyone gets there cars back at least
Oh man! I was looking forward to this update... then I had the wind knocked outta me! Damn this sux! There are two types of these kits, you got the better of the two and I got the crappy one. I can help you out with the fitment, hit me up. I'm in Modesto only about an hour from you.
I get your frustration, I’d be super pissed too, But you can’t group everyone together and just say you’re not going to give a deposit ever again. You will have a hard time, if not impossible time finding someone to do your work.
According to Mike it’s up to 40+ cars now check out his channel for updates on this.
Wow 40+, this whole thing sucks. That's a lot of cars.
It should have been telling when they are saying 3-4k for a paint job. Maybe a little sanding and priming for that.
So where are you taking your car now? I have a very good friend but he's not cheap, but he's also very reasonable, and his word is bond, he is as honest as the day is long.
That’s myke mykes homie!!😂😂😂
And gonzevo is right after him
bro has to be the most wanted npc in los santos atm
Underrated comment 😂
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I read this and spit out my yak
I feel so bad for dudes uncle, being put into that type of position
Me too. Jay gotta be man and not let his uncle take the brunt of the anger.
Ehhh sounds like his uncle was unknowingly an enabler. It being his Uncle's shop, his uncle should be commanding how many cars he takes on and be on his ass when he clearly isn't finishing them. People talk I'm sure his uncle was told by other stalls that the kid was a problem
@@demonsamongstmen562his uncles shop and building not his business. Completely different things. Even his uncle was behind on rent
@@demonsamongstmen562Mike said jays uncle said jay was months behind on his rent & this all kicked off because he told jay he had to leave
Bro charging 3k for paint jobs should tell you enough to begin with😅😂
Exactly cheap as
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Very true
I think for his case he was just gonna fix the body kit. Not actually paint it.
@@erickflores01 some of the other guys got charged that much for a paint job SVOrick paid that
Never trust anyone without a contract and legal!!!!
I was called a scammer before but I gave back the customer money, car, and the customer stole my pair of Recaro seats. He say to compensate for the lost he endure. I closed shop after a month and wasn't able to pay my mechanic. I end up looking for a 9 to 5 job to rethink it over.
@@Fenix_Lifestyle bro this guy had like over 50 peoples cars 💀 and all were not worked on and just left it there…
This happened to me before. I lost my car found it 7 months later at a tow yard completely parted out lost almost 10k worth parts. That killed me but the lesson I learned is work on your own stuff.
I know how bad it is losing everything to these scammers. I've been there before but was referred to @ifwinternational who helped me recovered everything. You should try them too
This brings back some bad memories, I worked for a shop like this. They would take a deposit for a new project to pay for another older project. They would get money to order parts then not order them. Didn't know what was going on until customers started coming in the shop giving me shit for not working on their cars. Shop closed shortly after. Employees never got paid and customers had to fight to get their cars. These shops are everywhere. Got tired of seeing people getting ripped off so I started my own shop. Now I'm dealing with people that want a good job but don't want to pay for it. Can't win sometimes.
Back in the day, he would have gone missing without a word.
Amen
Older generation says the young generation is crazy blah blah. But y’all go ahead and say shi like this 🤦♂️
@angelcelis9090 I'm talking about early late 90's early 2000's 😂🤣
“It’s pick n pull over here”😂😂😭
dirty and unorganized were huge signs to stay away
This is crazy. Watched Mike’s video last night. Wild
What’s mikes channel
@@S_0_R_R_Y mike myke
Sad truth, a lot of shops do this. Usually projects. They take deposits, and take their sweet time never finish. When they need money, they do 2-4 hours and charge the client, then stop. 80% of the time they got gambling or drug addiction.
Insane, you can't trust anyone at face value. Need paperwork for everything in 2024, good ole handshakes don't cut it no more.🤦🏾♂
How do you not get a contract Lmao!! ✌️🇺🇲
Actually a handshake is legally binding as good as a contract as long as there is evidence or they admit to the handshake
@@bm373 Because they wanted to go cheap, and that's what happens.
Yup when in doubt say ut a text and ask fo confirmation. And or video the handshake and deal. Very few but us handshaker deal makers still exist. Sadly dying breed.
@@RealEpicGamerscorrect, i've been through the legal process with a camper trailer. "Verbal Contract" is the way the Deputy put it.
How do people think they can steal from people and go out in public and feel safe???
They do it all the time bro. Here in Tampa FL we have a shop that's a known scumbag and yet he stays in business. Blows my mind.
@@JubeeHS13 When you pop up at their home, Deep and let them know they cant breathe. They tend to find your money. Hell make them sign their car over to you. Pressure break pipes. You have to be about that life, when its about your money.
@@kasarnflanever good to go looking for problems that’s when bad things happen best to just do things the way you can.
One man show with 25-30 cars is craaaazy. I feel like some of these guys just saw the price and didnt do their homework. Hopefully they do get justice tho.
Has to be drugs..
Yeah you're right I had a co worker who stopped going to work & when I spoke to him he'd say yeah I'm gonna be back to work & he didn't sound right, he later overdosed in his house & died this was about 4 years ago now
Agreed sounds kinda meffy to me
@neilholland4427 with the money he was making, it's probably dat hero-in
I used to pay upfront until I bought myself some sense
That's why I only do a couple of cars at a time ... And I don't do storage.
Quality over quantity for sure brother goes a long way now this dude gone messed up his whole hustle
This was my exact fear...so I just did my research & started working on my own car & I have to say it's coming along nicely...don't be afraid to try it on ur own
What equipment did you buy? I always wanted to learn how to paint and do body work
@ybnalex9628 I ended up purchasing paint guns, hoses, compressor, sanding blocks, sandpaper, youtube has alot of good tutorials that helped me along the way, I also have a friend who is an awesome painter that gave sum good info, my advice to you is get an old fender & practice on that before you start on ur own car, always remember if you mess up u can always sand & respray
@ybnalex9628 another thing I purchased sum of my paint equipment at Harbour Freight & it wasn't very costly
WOW. Sad that's the way some people do business. These fooz out here don't get it, play with the wrong person's money and you put ur life in danger.🤷🏾♂️
This is called deposit scam, becareful when you want to send a car for a paint you need to make sure its finish within a time frame, don't sign any paper that doesn't tell when the car is finish painted
He did you guys a favor losing that roof scoop!!
Hater…
Nah that shit gabbage shit my fly off hopefully it doesn’t smack someone in the rear.
Pass through scoop, icecream scoop has more value 🎉
Still people's property it's fucked up
Unbelievable bro
This is crazy.....smh! Surprised nobody has "touched" him!
That's so crazy,,, Jay should concentrate moving very far away or hiding for a very very long time. You don't play with a man's money, vehicle/vehicle's or his woman
All the car guys are here😂
This is what I was afraid would happen when I was looking for a shop to put a motor in my Q50 3.0t. Took me over a year to find a shop, and they delivered perfectly. They now have a customer for life.
Damnnnnn. Sorry you're going thru that man. U definitely didn't deserve it.
that man just said 2021? lmao you are not holding my car over 3-6months. absolutely not
Daaaaaamn 2021... It's 2024😂😂😂
Just something you unfortunately have to expect now days . As unfortunate as it even is . Can’t really trust anyone , and that’s not to be taken lightly what some ever . Best of luck to you fellas on the journey to find those whips . Hope they all turn up . And for Martinez, my boy …. Sell the business and skip town before someone shows you exactly why you don’t do what you did dawg .
Looks better without roof scoop
😂😂blessing in disguise
Yep as long as a roof wing isn't put on.
Word up that shit looks ricey with the scoop
Nah fr that scoop was ricey af lol
Damn, people like that scammer really wouldn't be missed in society. Hope you get up to speed soon Paradox!
Bro coulda had a bumping buisness if he just did the work😂
Bro would’ve been racking in customers, if he did the work and would be making more money in the long run. What a dumbass.
That’s crazy. Bro is finding Mike’s parts, too!
I really hope that ALL OF YOU GET YOUR EXPENSIVE STUFF BACK!! I'm sorry all of you went through that. I'm in the process of building my 95 SC300 because all of your cars inspire me.
What a shame this was the build I was most looking forward to on CZcams too, hopefully you'll still get it done.
This is how people get offed. All that money, somebody ain’t gon take it the way others may. 😬
That first update you had with the guy. And I saw/heard Red Flags. Glad you got your ride out of there.
That guy who owns the CTS-V found his car down the street fcked off with spider webs through the whole interior.. its cooked bad bad. This sh1t wild like it came straight out of a fckin movie 😂 that's V is fckin dope too.. well was anyway 😂
Damn since 2021 that's crazy man's been waiting that long
Thats crazy! I know where that general area is at. I was a delivery driver and we used to go there to devliver parts to a couple of the body shops around there. I would suggest Image Paint and body off 47th & Franklin. He's a very good family friend that used to paint show cars, but he's pricey. He's been around since maybe before I was born, around 30+ years. He was a one man operation for a while, so you'll have to schedule something so he can take a look at your car. His name is Brian and my name is Christopher K.
When he was talking about doing the work and time frames in that last video, I was like duuuuuude... there's no way he is doing that amount of work in that time frame. Red flags all over the place.
Once he said end of may noticed how his eyes shifted
lizard
Paying half upfront is an industry standard, also what else do you expect paying 3-5k for bodywork and paint work lmfaooo that’s already shady as hell
That’s the part that ALL these dudes aren’t talking about. Love their content but they’re paying cheap prices and expecting this guy to do top quality work, and deal with custom body kits.
They need to go to a high end paint shop, and not these Facebook Marketplace ass painters.
Maaan, Talk About Trusting Ppl, I Just Got Ripped Off For $1500 By Sum Church Ppl Over Them Hitting My Denali 😮 Ruff Times Out Here‼️
I know the feeling. Happen to me with my Oneoff GS on my Channel. Had to correct all the shops mistakes also. Was left for over a year.
Idk how people can do this, if I did this I wouldn’t be able to ever relax, id constantly be worried, what a scumbag smh
I’m so annoyed, I’ve been waiting long for this to finish and this guy has been ruining lives. Paradox hope you get it finished man
Man i struggle to get people in my shop. People like this guy are ruining everything
I’m in shock you of all people got scammed ,it’s really bad but it’s happening all over the place I got a phone call about safety work on my flat the scammer not realising my flat is council and we just had a major electric and fire upgrade post grenfell ,I hope it all works out bro love your channel
Mark. (U.K.)😊
😢😢 sorry you got scammed bro. 😢😢😢 at least you got your car back, other ppl didnt their cars.
dont ever leave a deposit!!! this is not the only shop that does this...i live in the IE in CA and shops out here do the same stuff!!Shops like this will always make false promises and tell you when its going to be done but it will never get done!!
I always said to myself that the paint shop looks shady
Im sure that man is getting ready to move to Mexico 😂 he owes so much money he rather dip
I wouldn't expect that bodykit to be fitted for a minimum of 5k - 10k, fiberglass parts can very poor fit up and take a ton of time to work on, unfortunately its just reality.
This has got to be some FBI level shit. NEVER pay a dime until the work is done at a reputable shop.
That dood J gonna need PC!
Man I love your Vids honest good business feel bad for what happened.😢😢❤
I didn't even recognize the fact that's your same MR2 until the camera got close. I was thinking you got a porsche now lol
Damn my brother if you lived in Florida I would have that thing lined up for you and prepped with the bodywork ready and everything with no BS!
Getting into the auto body/paint spraying industry now. Plan on running my future business exactly how you explained in the end. What painter j didn’t understand is if he just delivered one the few cars he had a deposit on he could’ve been booked for the next couple years lol. He had enough cars lined up to make a comfortable living and messed it all up.
Suuuuucks bro bro! Sounds like what I went through. Bro said he could swap a 16v 4age in my starlet in 3 months top, took almost a year and some change, car was over heating when I got it back, leaking coolant, electrical didn't work, used 1 wire color for the whole engine harness, welded oil pan on engine block. Almost 2 months after I got the car back, it blew out 2 pistons out the block. And he kept some of my oem starlet parts and claimed it never had them on the car. This dude was in San jose
and u didun do nuffin about it
My Lil. Bro up in NYC would have had your shit running in peak condition. I only fuck with drag racers and Kate from Brooklyn do nothing but race and build nice cars. I'm in the south now and ,I'm stuck building my own car now without good help🫤👎🏿✊🏿
@@monsterthekid1081 daang. Yeah I was young and barely getting into the swap game, I didn't know any better. Now I know how to handle it. Still having to do it myself too
Car shop exit scams are always crazy. There was a Subaru shop by me that disappeared with a bunch of peoples expensive builds
That dude eyebrows tripped me out bit this crazy af
Blanket party time😆
DAMN, This is no joke!!
Free for all. Just walk in and grab what you need
Wow....I just can't believe this...after that Mike myke have said good things about him...smh...yup, I'll never pay upfront..and shop who takes one too may project at one time..that's already a no no...FRAUD!!!
Damn, what a crazy timeline.. how is this guy not getting hit by many lawsuits?
All of you are capable of doing your own work. I would love to have a place where I could teach car people to do their own body and paint. I feels great when you’re laying paint over your own bodywork. I pray everyone gets their cars finished correctly. People like this are leaches on us all
Thing is.. i get him taking the cars in.. he was getting alot of exposure and it was probably best to take them all in rather than deny any and they go elsewhere..
But in doing that, u gotta keep pumping the cars out at a decent rate..
Not crazy fast, but at a decent rate..
if he just covered his fees, not fuck off his money, and just do the work.. he woulda been setttt
Like 10 employees doing the work for him by next year set 🤦🏾♂️
It’s crazy‼️same thing happened in my town. With big money 20-30K deposits.
SANTA ROSA Ca. On November 21 2017, West Coast Auto Craft business owner Christopher Miranda, 43, of Winsor, was sentenced to 15 years, and 4 months in state prison and ordered to pay restitution which is expected to total approximately $850,000
Man sorry this happened to everybody
He wanted to meet downtown in public so no one wouldn't get em
I've been following this build since you started it and I hate to say it but that guy gave me the wrong vibes from the get go. The way he only responded with yep, yep, sure, ok, yea. Really put me off. I thought either he's the owner and doesn't really work on the cars or he has no idea what he's doing. As a contractor myself I tend to have to talk with home owners quite a bit and explain what im doing or why i'm doing things a certain way and if they happen to ask I have a full detailed conversation about their vision and plans with them. Never ok, ya, sure, alright
If it makes you feel better, it looks better without the scoop.
Definitely haha that scoop was so ricey lol
Mike and you…🤦🏽♂️ this Crazy
That sucks man, hopefully everyone got there stuff back & there money back!
dude needs jail tbh the amount of ppl that got scammed out of money and there cars is actually insane I would’ve thought this place was a chop shop if I didn’t know what was going on hopefully everyone gets there cars back at least
Oh man! I was looking forward to this update... then I had the wind knocked outta me! Damn this sux! There are two types of these kits, you got the better of the two and I got the crappy one. I can help you out with the fitment, hit me up. I'm in Modesto only about an hour from you.
Man paradox if you was in NY I would plug you in with this shop that does AMAZING work and for cheap!!
That’s messed up taking advantage of trusting people like that..fucking it up for everyone
I get your frustration, I’d be super pissed too, But you can’t group everyone together and just say you’re not going to give a deposit ever again. You will have a hard time, if not impossible time finding someone to do your work.
What a peace of work
After seeing this i gotta start investigating all the shops in my local area than actually make any deals with them.
God that looks like a kit car won't fool anyone. Can tell from far away the little details that are off from a real one
Welcome to the new world of greed and theives. So sad. 😮💨
Seen folks lose they life for stuff like this..
Bro it isn't hard, they just choose to rip people off.
🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾some of these shops are 🗑🗑😢😥
Mike painter got him too lmao
This is why everyone have trust issues
Mans capping for the deposits
I’m an Autobody man , and I wouldn’t touch that for 3k , in this trade you get what you pay for
This shit is krazier by the damn day I’m so sorry y’all are good people don’t deserve it
What body kit/swap is that for the MR2?
That “myke myke homie”😂😂😂 good job steroid myke
Thats exactly what shops should do.
Boyy when they catch him they gonna beat his asss 😂😂😂 seriously though it’s a shame you can’t even go to the shops and pay to get your shit done
This right here is why I'm always so nervous to drop my car places. The fear of losing your investment over someone else's scumbag ways.