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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- You ever try to make a brief 10 minute video before Halloween about some minor little thing like "weird error handlers in Deltarune."
And next thing you know it's November 13th and 20 minutes long?
And next-next thing you know it's Unus Annus' Anniversary and you completely forgot but you also managed to reference it in the video and low-key promise to do a bunch of Unus Annus?
It's uh... it's been a ride.
Subtitles are up, might give them another look later tho.
0:00 Spoopy Scary Stuff
01:06 Apparently CZcams thinks I'm a robot and my channel has no value
4:16 Actual Video Start
5:04 A Brief History of Undertale Messages in the Code
6:25 The Voice of Chara is Sylvia
8:02 Reminder to Be Nice
8:22 The Two Versions of "Unused"
10:55 The Parent Objects "interactablesolid" and "readable"
11:54 Error Handlers if you examine an un-item
12:32 A lot of these creepy lines were made less accessible in Chapter 2
13:14 The Voice of Goner Kid is Pjoe
13:41 Object Treasure Room, Wait is that what the Paper is? No? Nm
14:04 Strange symbols on NPCSign
14:27 The Poem In The Code (npc: facing, room, and room animated)
14:52 Using Capitalization and Japanese Character Type
15:26 Also there is an Egg
15:55 Object Toriel scares me
16:39 Don't Pick on KesMadgik
17:22 Let's Break the Game
20:06 Why does this happen?
21:04 saecremai has a video with All The Recruits
21:12 Can you Recruit other characters this way?
22:11 Why do the sprites do this?
22:44 Wrapping up and giving Credit
23:18 Channel News
KesMadgik's Recruiting-Spamton Video: • You Can RECRUIT Spamto...
All the Recruits Including the Buggy Ones: • Video
Underminers: / new_underminers_discor...
I absolutely used Nochocolates Chara screenies because I refuse to sell my soul: nochocolate.tumblr.com/master...
If you're wondering why I don't put the Patreon link at the end of my videos, that's only allowed for Monetized Channels. And well... you know the rest.
Support me on Patreon anyway! Give CZcams the middle finger: / halfbreadchaos - Hry
Before you say "get rid of the robot voice so youtube stops flagging you" go here: czcams.com/video/XlOUQbIPRYs/video.html
Didn't realize this was a thing but at 22:47 "Karmic Retribution" is not an in-game term, I was just trying to make a pun and didn't realize there's confusion in the community around that phrase. Oops!
I don't trust the youtube info interface anymore so:
Here's the Spamton Recruit video czcams.com/video/PW2S-x1U-pg/video.html
Here's all the recruits even the glitchy ones: czcams.com/video/440lUZASN-M/video.html
Here's the rushed appeal video if you feel like doing an autopsy: czcams.com/video/ytlCrq6xVec/video.html
Here's the Patreon: www.patreon.com/HalfBredChaos
Fantastic, CZcams is deleting my comments again...
🐦 "Team" or "Creators" CZcams about your problem, they did respond for channel deletions in theory.
can you tell me Wich TTS is this? I want to make vids but i REALLY hate my voice 🤠
honestly, I like the tts, makes things easy to understand
Hey the other text about scratching is used if u did the snow grave route. When you visit the hospital she leaves after seen the player. After she leaves you fo out the door and she says it. Im 100% sure cus i last played the game when it came out but i think thats what it was
@@skyco5395 Nuance: www.nuance.com/omni-channel-customer-engagement/voice-and-ivr/text-to-speech.html
I always assumed Toby changed his mind and became neutral on people datamining his game since it was unfortunately inevitable due to its popularity. However, the idea that he could weaponise our own curiosity against us is too interesting to ignore.
Well he kind of got around it by releasing the game chapter by chapter and not everything at once 🤔😅
If I was Toby I would make fake leaks and put them in the code, and just to screw with data miners, put some real ones in too. That way people will spend years trying to figure out what real
@@Legithiro Reminds me of Skinless Hush and other red herrings
@@Legithiro you're pure evil 😂
@@Legithiro honestly,I wouldn't be surprised if he does this in the future.
"Is that a cut on your face, or part of your eye?"
Makes me think of Chara's face when you refuse to reset at the end of Undertale's genocide route.
Oh hay good point! I didn't think of that, the way his face distorts.
"Kris" or Susie could also be the person with the cut face or part of an eye. As of the end of Chapter 1, Susie's hair in front of her face reveals her eyes and I can't tell if there's a scratch or if it's just hair and eye. And "Kris" has a red eye, but their eyes haven't been revealed yet aside from the red flashes.
@@HalfBreadChaos hi i love your channel i hope im not bothering you. I think its best to use they/them pronouns for Chara, Frisk and Kris, from what i know
it made me think of seam
@@thedistinguished5255 doesnt asriel use she/her pronouns for chara after true pacifist tho?
There's a theory I've heard wherein the 'Unused' code might be December
The idea here is that December's absence has left Noelle very forlorn. She has many strange web searches the queen can't parse, she has a calendar in her room where every day is December 25th, possibly implying she may be searching for her sister online frequently, in the manner a person may not do if they were deceased. She also mentions a lot of things in the dark world seem 'Familiar,' such as a ribbon you can find, or Spamton's door, which is a weird trend.
December also lacks a gravestone, which would not be the case if she died. A lot of people seem to remember lightners in the past, and how they have become rare.
So, people have put forward that December is buried under darkness from some previous excursion into the dark world, from when Kris, Asriel, Dess, and Noelle went exploring and perhaps found some door inside. The scratching she hears might be Kris and the others passing just close enough to hear, or perhaps the sound of a fountain opening, or similar. I've ever seen it suggested that the end songs are from December's perspective
An interesting interpretation... I think these hidden code things are all just early hints, and not really required knowledge for understanding the plot but will just elucidate on aspects of it.
...Unless it goes fully into Gaster stuff and has a whole second story going on explaining alternate timeline things
I think it's plausible too, that's why I switched the voice/location between the two "unused" reads the way I did. : P I wanted to include that as a possible interpretation.
But if I went into the can of worms that is "who is this mysterious person" the video would be even longer lol. Not that that stopped me from looking into the Spamton thing for an additional 1/3 of run time.
@@HalfBreadChaos Mayhaps a video about Dess could happen.
@@Nova-uq9nw I'm not sure I have enough to center a video on her yet, but I will surely be covering what we do have as it relates to other topics. (I don't wanna make a ghost-sandwich basically. : P)
@@HalfBreadChaos Yeah, that's fair. The lack of info we have on her certainly made me think she was just dead for a while, and even still, there's not much to go on for a video.
I theorize the scratching is from the kids at the bunker door at the end of chapter 2, more hints adding that December is locked down there
The "It's so dark" and "calling for help" vibe reminds me of Flowey too. Call into the dark, "but nobody came", ect.
Apparently the japanese goner text is also similar to asriel's speech patterns
Huh
"If you don't have a SOUL, what happens when you...?"
It specifically reminded me of that scene with the echo flowers where, if you kill Toriel, Flowey leaves a message imitating her saying "Where am I? It's so cold here... and so dark... Someone help me... Anyone... please... Help me..." Spooky stuff!
@@leedlelel2373 Maybe Asriel is trapped in the Dark World. Also on the subject of Asriel, Asriel had a room in Queen's Mansion, not Ralsei. If Ralsei was really Asriel, does Ralsei know who Kris is? Or was Kris the discarded vessel and this "Kris" is someone else that Asriel doesn't know? (There are so many questions to ask about Deltarune, but that's also part of what is so good about it.)
@@crano8202 oof
10:05 i think something of note here is Spamton's "TOO MANY EXCESS VACATION DAYS?" is likely a pun on Access Violation, an error where a program reaches outside of their allocated memory, typically into garbage code, so the handler throws an error. Considering all of the references to Spamton being able to access the dialogue of this character who seems to be trapped in the unused code (specifically, _outside_ of it, in the comments), and the fact the "Excess Vacation Days" joke happens while talking about the Knight of all things is very, very interesting and has a lot of implications.
And before anyone tries to shoot down the Access Violation reference, consider the fact, that the sentence still works without "Excess" in it. In fact, it almost seems DELIBERATE in it's implications of this, since "TOO MANY VACATION DAYS?" not only works, but makes more sense grammatically.
Thought that was a segmentation fault
Wasn't it a reference to some burgerpants dialogue in Undertale?
@@charlieburnham39 they're the same thing
@@Valery0p5 i mean, yeah, but it can be more than one thing at once, it's not like it's line for line what burgerpants said anyway
This is a good theory! I would argue that "vacation days" take the precedence though: the lower case text immediately follows after Spamton is about to mention something about The Knight. I think Spamton knows Kris is the knight, or at the very least was about to mention that "They look like you", leading to Kris silently threatening Spamton and causing him changing the subject.
Why does spamton follow this up with excess vacation days? Because he knows Kris has been worrying about Asriel :) I bet gaster and him shared words about them
Giving the java cookie to noelle makes her say "i cant read the symbols these are written in..." While with susie and ralsei its just "guts" and "fluffy"
Also the laugh after abc_123 was posted transitions into entry number 17's dialogue sound, i find it really weird how almost nobody notices this
that's because that dialogue sound is just randomly picking snippets of abc_123_a.ogg
@@potatodude3947 but... It isnt... Its actually just a bunch of fl studio sounds put together is what ive heard
@@leedlelel2373 no lol
@@TeamGalactic-Cyrus I'm pretty damn sure abc_123_a.ogg was made with the FL Studio Speech plugin.
@@WhenTheG yes. I meant that the dialogue sound is picking snippets of abc_123_a.ogg.
Also, the messages reminding people it's all speculation for fun, and not to harass people over their perspectives is really nice to see in a channel, I'm loving the amount of positivity here
Ikr? Every time I add those I'm afraid I'm going to get comments like "Uuugh so condescending" but somehow the opposite happens and everyone in the comments in super wholesome?
I'm not use to my plans working as intended lol. What is this? I don't even.
@@HalfBreadChaos I mean, it _should_ go without saying, but it's not like you're insulting anyone's intelligence by just playing it safe. I think it's very respectable
knowing I can share my perspective without harassment means I can share my (probably bad) theory on Ralsei being a lightner instead of a darkner.
welp here I go,
1. In Chapter 1, whenever they talk about the lightners (note that Ralsei would be in the party by this point as it's right before Card Castle) they always JUST mention lightners, no darkners, implying that Ralsei is a lightner.
2. How tf does Ralsei know so much about the light world?
3. If Ralsei was a darkner wouldn't he have turned to stone because of the Cyber World?
4. And how DOES Ralsei get to the Cyber World anyways? there are NO entries to there from Castle Town OTHER than the Librarby (lol) in the light world
@@sunkfnf2406 I've always sort of assumed that, because Ralsei has no physical form. That he is contained within kris as an essence within their being, kind of Kris' idealization of asriel, what he wished he had. This explains why Ralsei can travel between dark worlds, because he is connected to kris, this may also explain why he doesn't turn to stone, as he isn't connected to a physical object. Unlike Rouxls Kaard and Lancer. I think lightners is the easiest way to address the group, And sometimes they are specifically talking to Kris and Susie and not Ralsei.
I've been thinking constantly about the vessel we create in the beginning, like what if it comes back in the last few chapters as an antagonist? Or what if it's this unknown entity trapped in the code? Either way, I'm probably wrong and this video is great, keep it up!
I've been curious about that too. : P It would be terrifying to discover that we cast them into some sort of hellish void for unknown nefarious purposes.
@@HalfBreadChaos Or perhaps we didn't but something else did? Like whoever was speaking to us at the end of the vessel creation. Regardless, I can't wait to see how dark things can get when it comes to the vessel
@@HalfBreadChaos its probably controlled by gaster
It will probably come back, since the game keeps track of your choices in that sequence. Not only that, some of the code relating to those choices have "GONER" written before them
My bet is that the vessel is the knight!
To be honest, I really like your "voice" through text to speech. For many people, text to speech IS their real voice, I wish it were respected as an excellent accessibility tool that helps people communicate clearly! That being said having friends read your script for you also seems like a good solution if its what you're more comfortable with! I really respect the attitude you seem to have towards youtube and towards the deltarune/undertale community. And I admire your Determination! Please don't give up doing everything you can to survive and thrive and make things you enjoy making!
I agree with this so much, I wished It wasn't associated with reddit thread videos and respected as some people's only way to voice their works
I’m glad it’s not that default voice
I normally don’t care for it, but this one feels like it has a lot of heart put into the editing and I respect that
I agree completely! It's a valid way of expressing yourself, especially if you're nonverbal or not wanting to use your own voice!
One of the most clever and well-respected people to have ever lived on this planet's voice was _iconic_ and... a speech synthesiser. Why do people not think of Stephen Hawking more often?
And even completely disconnected and divorced from comparison and context, it's not actually that hard to get used to the TTS voice, right? I had, like, _one_ video I watched of Bread's where I felt a bit of cognitive dissonance, and since that moment, this voice has become synonymous with Bread. I don't even notice that it's TTS anymore most of the time except for when it does the weird timing, pronunciation or cadence thing that TTS is prone to. What I mean to say is: I'm almost sure if I heard this particular TTS voice bank elsewhere, I'd think of Bread first. ;D
P.S.
Yes, Bread's content and attitude are a unique slice of awesome and I can't wait to _inhale_ more of both
Even if CZcams screws you over like this, you will still be everybody’s [[number1favoritesalesman1997]], and I hope to see more of your stuff in the future, you are one of my favorite youtubers right now.
We don’t need [CRTS], we don’t need [Man,Woman, Child] [At half price]!
They even let those videos that ARE made by robots,you know the videos for kids coco melon videos and little baby bum videos
@@cbaha4985 WE DON'T NEED [MIKE]!
MIKE...
Hello? Can anybody hear me?
@@mangomonroe They try to get rid of those with this system, and they likely succeed to an extent. There’s just too many.
It just hit me, do the dark world characters even know what the sun is? As far as I remember spamton is the only dark world character that has any reference to the sun
They probably know what it is but they have never seen it for real
The shadow crystals lets someone see outside the dark world, but not beyond that
As in, in chapter 2 you can barely see the library, but not outside of it or anything like.
Seam has seen/ or at least knows what it is. "You don't want to get caught when the sun goes down." -Seam telling us to not be in a Dark World during that time.
@@fansundertable649 oh, crap- and Kris opened the fountain in the dead of night- now I'm worried about the next chapter
@@fansundertable649 Wait, when does he say that?
@@wobbmin3705 Chp 2 just keep talking to him, it might be in a certain route, like beating everyone up (not SnowGrave) I'm not sure.
19:24 the laughing Noelle animation is perfect in this context🤣
The comments of people noticing the tiny details you add, it fills you with Determination!
Freaked me out that the first random sprite to come up was dead Berdly, tho.
11:12 the "Parent object" entity you have described *is* in fact a thing in coding, and it is called "interface": the purpose of said interfaces is to provide a "container" or a base on which you'd add all the individual details specific to one determinate object; much like many cars have the same shape of the chassis.
Big ups to you for being smart enough to figure out a pretty high level of abstraction and contextualizing it perfectly :D
Oh phew lol I always get very nervous when I talk about coding because I am absolutely not a coder.
Oh yeah at the start of the explanation I was like "what? no, that's not--" and like two sentences later I had a light bulb moment that went "Wow actually that's totally accurate and - especially considering it's from a zero-coding lens - a really clever way of looking at it and arriving at almost the same semantic meaning as when you try to describe this concept _with_ coding experience."
Really sorry to hear about the de-monetization. Such is the incompetent tyranny of CZcams. Hoping and praying that this gets resolved soon for you, because your work is very distinct from others. Instead of acting like a video essay, it feels more like a conversation, while also being easy to follow, clever, and not scatterbrained. In fact, that was the reason I subbed, because the uniqueness, quality, and quantity surpassed the initial reaction I had to the text-to-speech voice. You know that you have a bright personality when it shines through a monotone robot voice! People also seem to be attracted by the thought you put into these theories and the consideration you have for other theory-crafters. Intelligence without arrogance seems to be a rarity in this world, unfortunately, which makes your content all the more refreshing.
I'm not currently in the position to do Patreon, but I can assist with the view count stuff. It's important to be realistic about starting a movement for fair treatment under CZcams, but don't underestimate the chances of a miracle, either. After all, thirteen colonies defeated the largest empire in human history and rose to become a world superpower. Having a clear goal/terms for treatment is just as important as the fight itself. Most revolutions fail to make any substantial impact in the world because they lack a direction after they won, so if CZcams finally concedes, make sure you aren't left asking "what now?" A clear vision and a solid foundation is necessary, so that the flame doesn't die out and things fall apart. This is why the Americans wrote such specific terms and conditions in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc.
Sorry for the paragraph, but I wanted to share some insight if you're going to take this whole CZcams union seriously. It definitely sounds like you have enough ambition (or should I say...determination?) to do this content creation thing. Hopefully CZcams will cooperate. Keep up the good work and God bless, dude!
"I've never run debug tools on Deltarune before so obviously we're going to just run those blindly with no prep whatsoever at 3AM"
this is how most debugging works tbh ("i have no idea what this does SO LET'S DO IT")
Oh, it's so sad, that CZcams doesn't let you be yourself :(
You are still in a good shape for secrets though!
Stay determined 💪
The character in the code is trapped with Schrodinger's Cat, that's why they can hear scratching sounds.
To comment code in GML, you use two forward...slashes (//code), making it so the code is there and isn't at the same time.
I think the character is Dess & in her current state, she is not even a Goner as even they have actual code
You are doing great, btw. Proceed
That's just commenting the code, not really schrodinger's cat related
I think it shows that whatever it was, it's been disabled from existence just like that
There's traces of it, but they don't actually exist
those comments arent like that in the actual code that toby would have written. its just an artifact of the decompilation tool; the contents of strings are displayed as comments.
I'm always really interested in Undertale and Deltarune's code, but Im not really great to delving into that kind of stuff so your videos really help satisfy my curiosity! They're also just done well in general and its fun seeing how a topic leads into another as the video goes on. Also excited to see how your content will eventually expand! Hope the youtube issue gets fixed as well.
I'm wondering just how much we could read from the differences and details in the Japanese version of the game. There's apparently quite a few dialogue style changes (like Queen speaking in HTML comments lol), but I'm especially interested in how speech patterns are implemented. After all, there's only so much you can do with English... Japanese has three scripts and that opens up totally new opportunities. Besides the meta stuff regarding whether or not some text gets translated at all. For instance, I heard that the unused "person in the dark calling for help and hearing scratching" is actually translated into Japanese, unlike pretty much all the other unused text, which outlines its potential significance.
I watched a few japanese youtubers playing Undertale and Deltarune. The translation is amazing. Like Sans's bone jokes.
I can't really remember the detail but what really amaze me is Spamton.
Like when he said "I" in japanese it's "わたし" (watashi) but it's written "ワタ94"
94 can be read as "kushi" so it's "watakushi". I think it's more formal than "watashi"
Temmie's lines are pretty hard to read from what I get from the youtubers. The words are written like kinda this "ほｲ テﾐだ！" they mixed big and small symbol for Temmie. Oh, they did that too with Spamtom, but Spamton is worse lol.
@@fifiannisa9639 To expand more on it, Spamton's dialogue in English has the occasional random insertion of death, such as "CLICK HERE TO [[Die]]", but Japanese Spamton takes it to a whole new level. Not only does Spamton keep replacing "die" for "dai" and "death" for "desu", but the numbers 9 and 4 also have alternate readings (shichi-shi) that both sound like the word for death (effectively making 94 "deathy-death"). Furthermore, being able to use four different writing systems to make Spamton's dialogue a seemingly near-incomprehensible mess _that is still readable by native speakers_ means that Spamton's poor grasp on spelling and grammar is taken to a whole new level. He barely even needs to be written to sound deranged because the medium itself already conveys it.
The localization is good y'all
@@orngjce223 9 can't be pronounced as "shichi". You're thinking of the number 7.
@@voltekka47 oh god sorry
At first I found the text to speech voice annoying, but now I’ve grown attached to it. Though it wouldn’t be a bad idea to get someone to read the script out loud or something
XD we're thinking about it, I had Sylvia read my 4 minute appeal video out loud. It was much more emotive of course, but unlike a bot, I had to make her do several takes, and it was exhausting.
It's kind of funny though, around the 2:12 mark of said video I was like "I can barely hear you, I need you to redo these lines with GUSTO. Imagine Papyrus yelling "you can DO IT HUMAN" and suddenly the video has this huge burst of energy. XD So I made it fade out and suddenly cut back in to make the bug a feature.
(little things like this are wasted on videos for bots. D: ) But uh, anyway, 20 minutes of voice work sounds exhausting. If I do this, I might end up splitting the load between multiple voice actors, or handing them parts in isolated chunks so they don't exhaust themselves.
@@HalfBreadChaos Honestly text to speech is kinda annoying, it may be time consuming but you have to just get someone you know to read it, or read it yourself
@@sjcl2563 He did say in the video that his health precludes simply reading his own script. Which royally sucks, because I think the text-to-speech is probably the real issue with monetization. That would normally make sense, but they need to be able to make logical exceptions.
@@Stuffgamer1 Oh, I must have not payed attention to that part ig, my bad.
@@HalfBreadChaos I personally was a little annoyed by the text to speech voice on the first video I watched on the channel, but I actually really like it now. It's like a staple for the channel imo, and while replacing it with an actual person reading gives the video better quality and more effort, etc, the text to speech has a level of charm to it.
i just realized why jevil has a sprite for dancing backwards...
the place he is in is spinning so he would be turning in circles, i guess that was too confusing or too hard to make
You know, hearing the dialogue on the character creation screen got me thinking
What if it *is* the creation speaking?
I know in the beginning it says that the creation was discarded of, but they still must exist is some form, evidenced by the real name of castle town.
I believe some of that info is also recorded in our save file too. Very unsettling.
The name of the castle town is based on _your_ real name that you entered, not the creation's name.
@@maliziosoeperverso1697 oh ...
I must have given both the same name than...
@@HalfBreadChaos I've heard it is I'm the file, qnd if you start a file from chapter 2, since you don't creatd a vessel, the vessel code is given all the 1st choices in the save file, except for one of the choices
The name of the castle town is the player's name, not the creation
Crazy thought, but what if: the voice from the void is Kris? Not us, the player, but actually Kris when we're not, erm... borrowing their body? Because, maybe I interpreted it wrong, but it seems pretty clear to me that Kris and the player are two different entities, and that Kris really doesn't want us there. So what happens to Kris's consciousness when we're in control? Well, all this stuff about it being trapped in a place that's "dark" and "lonely" seems like a pretty good bet to me. And when you consider that Spamton's greatest fear is being used as a puppet, much like we're doing to Kris, and that he briefly hints at some similar stuff about everything being dark, plus the way he resonates with Kris...
Idk, chances are I'm waaay off; just thought it was interesting.
Kris is conscious and aware that we are controlling him and even forcing him to say certain things. This can be told by other people's reactions of Kris when he talks. I'm betting that voice is either the vessel we created but never inhabited or flowey being slain on the genocide route. Because he doesn't have a soul. We don't know if he actually went into an afterlife or something like that.
Fun fact: Berdly in the coaster fight can become tired. However he isn't recruited and the game proceeds as normal.
I shall forever regret not specifying which Berdly fight lol.
WAKE UP BABE NEW HALFBREDCHAOS VID DROPPED
Heh yes and this time I'm prepa- WAIT THE FILE NAME. *hastily fixes video title*
Glad to help! Im not one to jump to conclusions, but hard-to-read symbols and gashes in one's eye really point to a certain mysteryman 👀
Yeah, it's basically a neon sign that says "GASTER" at this point
The Infinity Train clip was absolutely perfect for what you were trying to convey
XD ha... ah... *infinity train clip immediately gets video flagged*
Infinity train theories upcoming??
Quickly flashing text:
You don't deserve this
You didn't earn this
You just got lucky
There are people who worked
their whole lives for this
HOW DARE YOU
How dare you take this for granted
You don't even know what
you're doing! You have no experience
Using any of these tools
You don't know how to edit code or
How long can you keep this up?
How long until you mess up
or someone calls on you on your
incompetence? You know this will
never work out don't you?
Nothing ever has before.
It seems like it will and then
it all comes crashing down.
This time will be no different
Except this time thousands of
people will have front row seats.
Don't listen, you can do this!
You're literally just starting
out and you're already drawing
an audience! As you improve
your skills you'll make better
and better content. Things can
only go uphill from here
as long as you don't let
yourself get crushed
under the weight.
Even if your videos succeed
YOU will screw up at some point.
You've seen how cancel culture
works, and YOU are interfacing
with your community all the time.
How long until you leave a
thoughtless comment or let
slip some piece of your personal
information? You know once
you do, it will be all over.
Why even try?
You literally do not know what
you are doing.
You've never run a Patreon
You've never run a channel
You've never run a discord
You're basing your
business around this?
And during a pandemic?
Why should YOU get hand outs
when thousands of people are
losing their jobs RIGHT NOW.
Stay Determined! x22
SPOOKY SCARY SKELETON!!!! (Papyrus)
What do you think you're
accomplishing by including
these little messages? Don't you
know they're just going to assume
you're looking for reassurance
or pity points? They're going
to feel like you're emotionally
manipulating them, STOP EXPOSING
YOURSELF.
This if fine. This is normal!
I know what imposter
syndrome is. I've dealt with
way worse. My audience is cool,
they'll know I'm just channeling
my own paranoia into fun
Halloween freeze frames.
There won't be a backlash, there
wasn't last time I mentioned
my health, right?
Sorry for the jumpscares,
I baked you a pie? (Jevil)
HalfBreadChaos has as many secrets in their videos as the game they're talking about. No wonder the vids are so good.
Tysm bro
i literally was looking for one of these
you can move the frames with . and ,
It's interesting that you mention the Japanese writing systems. There's something really suspicious I noticed about that: the UI only uses hiragana and katakana in Undertale and in the Light World, while all three are used in 1) the Dark World 2) The introduction with Gaster in Ch 1, and 3) The genocide ending with Chara. Additionally, these three places have options turn yellow when you're given a choice, as opposed to how they'd normally just stay white. (This part of the UI continues into the light world after leaving the Dark World in Ch 1, and Toby noted this on stream.) Really suspicious, but I have no idea why it happens. No clue! Regardless, thanks for this analysis; it turned out great, and I learned a lot!
Something very interesting is that in chapter 1 all the “unused” dialogue is commented out with “//” which in gms2, the software deltarune is coded in, basically tells the program to disregard that specific line of code, completely ignoring it. But in chapter 2 the lines aren’t commented out implying that between the two chapters the character trapped in the code may have gained some sort of control allowing the program or the world of deltarune to at least acknowledge its existence. I wonder if throughout the chapters of the game this character will regain more and more control until finally reamerging.
I am screenshotting this for future reference.
Can we agree that the laughter file is totally how Spamton should sound??
I actually almost made that connection, then I remember that Spamton's laugh is spelled like "hae hae" and the transcript for the abc thing is spelled "hehe." Completely forgetting that the "transcript" of that file (which is to say "how it looks when someone types it out") is fanmade, so I foolishly assumed Spamton's laugh wasn't connected.
And I literally did not realize my mistake until I tried to explain why I didn't do that lol. Oops!
I don’t know how you do it, but somehow you get the voice that’s literally made to be monotone and emotionless and give it so much life and passion. I love it so much. And I do like recruiting other voices but not making them constant. Really makes the parts they appear in a lot more notable and interesting.
The original message is actually still there in the external language-json file that is still for some reason used. And right above it is:
"obj_unusedclassevent_slash_Step_0_gml_81_0": "The Return",
An unused string for the Gamewindow(I think).
This is very interessting because this directly confirms that it is someone who properly belongs to a world who got lost, instead of the gonerbody that we created that was yeeted by maybe-chara.
I am a fan of the theorytrain that this is Noelle's sister, because Noelle's importance was clearly planned from the beginning because probably-gaster gives the same reaction to her name as the names of Kris and Susie.
Hm... I think that event refers to when Susie and Kris leave the Darkworld for the first time and wake up in the "unused classroom."
So this code is the event in which Susie and Kris "return" to the school. I made similar mistakes in the research faze, lol. "Warning: looking at the code too long will make you see ghosts!"
That classroom being called the "unused classroom" is some interesting word-choice though given the significance of "unused" here.
@@HalfBreadChaos Maybe.
I'm glad that I don't have to worry about Undertale & Deltarune coding lore because of people like you! Your discoveries lead the lore forward!
What happens if the person in the code is our created character since it was thrown away into code and it says it's dark like how spamton says it because they have no soul yet just like spamton wanted ours so it wouldn't be dark
Interesting point, usually in Undertale/Deltarune we focus on a SOUL as a commodity, but here we'd have a SOULess character created as an empty vessel.
CZcams money sucks. Don't worry about it too much. You have a Patreon, after all.
It's less that I really want those peanuts, and more that I'm really p****ed to be denied the peanuts, you know? Like a big fat king is sitting on a pile of expensive pastries going, "I don't think you've EARNED these PEANUTS."
Edit: Especially when it's worded "your videos have no intellectual value" like "O_< Excuse me?"
I love how all the background clips are so related to what you're talking about, it's a really nice touch! Hope you get remonitized soon
The 'spoiler warning' wasn't a message from Toby Fox...it was a *NARRATIVE* starting Gaster and the Goner's story!
Maybe G aster is actually Toby, too 🤣🤣🤣
gaster * is apossibility in a theory *
theorists: oh no. he's back
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As I suspected, this reinforces my theory about Chara being not only the narrator of Undertale, but the system as well.
Chara is meant to represent the player, the same way the annoying dog represents Toby
Technically, Chara is the god of the world since the player is the one in control of said world
i really liked the first part where you vented, but at the same time also created a kind of story? idk, it really felt like I could understand you better when you did this. also, it's okay if not everyone likes you, or if everyone begins to not watch you. No single channel will stay afloat forever, if they haven't reached a threshold of known-ness. I really do hope you'll become a [[BIG SHOT]], but in this day and age, it'll really be hard.
If people drift away that's fine. If the system screws me over even though my audience wants more, then I get mad. XD Because how DARE they mess with my audience!
Just a headcanon, but I think that in entry 17, Gaster may be talking directly to us, hence the pause of him acknowledging us floating around where we aren't supposed to be, and kicking us out of the game. The "two" would be Frisk and Chara, or maybe even the Player.
Holy HECK that monologue was so good. You are an amazing writer; that was so powerful that I could feel the burning determination through the monotone, half-dead robot voice. And such good ending: “let the games begin!” Amazingly well done!
To solve the problem, you could start a patreon, gofundme, or another form of donation service, and use the money to hire a voice actor. Having no text to voice would probably help prevent bots from flagging you.
I absolutely *loved* hearing your friends voicing the characters here. they were a blast and were genuinely very, *very* good at it
This video needs so much more attention omg! I didn’t know that the Unused Code of the character in the void changed and that’s so freaking interesting! And the Secret Known Quantity aaa! Thank you for this video!! Whatever you are going through right now... stay strong! Times will get better! ^^
the game saves your vessel, i think its the vessel talking
I actually really love the editing style of mixing in main content with random gags and footnotes everywhere
it does make me need to pause occasionally but it makes the video *feel* better to me
Blown away by this video, especially since you put it together while moving! I've never been a person to really get interested in the code of games so I had no idea that toby had squirreled away so much content between the lines. I'll have to try that randomized sprite trick on my own time. Anyway, great video. We're all here to support you, stay determined!
'Unused' code might be the character we made at the start, we might have to fight or take control of it to fight kris in chapter 7, my theory is that the chapters with new people are the soul types and the secret bosses are like the seven sins like jevil is greed, spemton is envy and sans is sloth while Noelle is patience and Lancer is bravery. seven souls and seven sins
im so fucked up about the fact that toby left these scary ass messages in the code telling people not to leak it, and when people did, he... added more secrets. weird guy.
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I think that the one speaking is Dess Holiday,, who is trapped in a part of the Dark World affected by the Roaring (maybe?).
I love each of these deep dives, feels like there's something about the world of the game to pick apart that is interesting even if its not necessarily trying to predict how the story will turnout. It's like tearing through and studying the fabric of reality of the game world, you can find out how stuff works and things you didn't see before but we don't totally get it right off the bat.
This isn't related to the video but I thought I'd just throw it in here cuz I've yet to see others mention it. Isn't it kinda weird Susie talks about blood now and again? She calls the heart donut jam in chapter one blood, blood explosion magic, telling lancer "everyone bleeds, right?". I guess lancer had his blood bucket thing, but Susie seems to mention more about blood than anyone else. And with how that one kid in the lightworld is confused about blood in humans, it seems fairly concrete that monsters aren't known for having blood in them.
It just seems off with Kris being the only human around town that susie would be very familiar with blood. obviously she thinks its cool but ever since i noticed its made that unused sprite of Susie healing her own wound I didnt think much of before seem sus.
O_O You make a good point. I wonder if that's why the animation was changed... hm...
I figure only some monsters bleed. There's that one kid who asks how it feels to be made of blood, but that doesn't mean that every different species of monster all lacks blood, y'know?
sans has blood
some of these weird hidden strings remind me of some overlooked papyrus lines in UT
if you leave the room where undyne catches monster kid instead of you and then go back in and call him, he just says:
'are you watching?'
there are a few more lines like this in rooms where undyne almost catches you. its weird. waterfall is weird.
_* Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same..._
_* Except you don't exist?_
_* Everything functions perfectly without you..._
_* Ha ha... The thought terrifies me_
_* An umbrella...? But it's not raining_
_* Ha, ha..._
_* You know, that does make me feel a little better about this_
_* Thank you_
_* Please forget about me_
...
_* _*_someone,_*_ anyone, if you can hear me . . ._
_* say _*_something. . ._*_ please. . ._
i'm brazilian and i LOVED your channel! you've talked about things i haven't heard ANYWHERE else! please make more of these videos,i love them :D
I'm going to continue watching your videos because they are honestly great and bring in concepts that I would never even think of!
Dude I'm rooting for ya honestly this is one of the most inspiring things I've seen with how determined you are to make this channel work and that union idea with some help is actually genius
It really is a shame that you're not getting money for this. Your videos are amazing! The fact that you were able to find all of that simply by digging through the code is incredible. (Even if I had access to the code, I wouldn't be able to understand anything, lol.) And the theories you're making with only two chapters out, they sound like very solid theories. Even if they don't turn out to be true, it still helped me see deltarune in a cool, different light that I wouldn't have ever seen on my own. Also, text to speech is usually boring to me in most videos, but your amazing writing and interesting content makes the text to speech entertaining in it's own way. Anyway, that's enough of me rambling, I really hope you can get money for your videos, you more than deserve it! :D
This is so cool, omg. I really admire all the work people did to uncover these things
I was watching this on my tv and I had to go on my phone to subscribe cause it’s such a good video I haven’t seen this good quality in years
Off topic here, but when Spamton says "No.. no.. I'm sorry.."
I imagine it being something he said when he was being thrown into the river of acid, and in my head is a picture of Spamton getting dragged by the queen's guards to the acid river while saying that he's sorry.
I wish you good luck in getting monetized! You certainly deserve it and it's stupid of CZcams to basically be robbing you like this just because you can't use an actual voice or whatever.
Not sure if I'll be available to contribute to your patreon any time soon but I'll certainly subscribe and look forward for future uploads :)
It's all good. I appreciate whatever support you're able to give, whether it's comments, subs, etc.
Looking at the opening segment frame-by-frame was actually so worth it! Well done!
Just found this video and its the first thing of your channel I have seen, and it is so well put together, gets straight to the point, and is just overal so enjoyable!! Keep making the amazing content you do! ❤️
After watching the whole video I noticed you only have 2k subs. Your channel is so underrated, this was some quality content.
A month ago I had like... 12 subs total, I think I'm actually growing faster than I can learn the tools lol. (8:12 look at that bad image quality, augh! New goal learn to animate without killing the image quality). Basically I appreciate the sudden burst of enthusiasm and support, and hope I can grow as a creator fast enough to match it.
@@HalfBreadChaos Now, a year later, you have 73.9k subs. Still underrated though, honestly you deserve at least 100k.
Something to add, in Japanese the "It's so dark, please say something" dialogue and the updated version use words that have feminine and childish connotations. Whoever's trapped may be a young girl, or at least someone who speaks that way (for example, Flowey talks similarly when using his friendly facade). Dess is thought to be more masculine and mature, but maybe its just a case of fanon vs canon, or maybe she's talking like this out of emotional distress. Or it could just not be Dess talking, but anyway.
The voice who calls for help through Spamton talks the same way, and this voice uses a combination of hiragana, katakana, and kanji, same as the one saying "is that a cut on your face or part of your eye?" Problem is, one's supposedly talking to Gaster (or Chara, their jumpscare face also fits the 'gash weaves down as if you cry' description. It could also fit the eyes found in the dark world's cliffs and on one of the titans, but I'm not sure what to make of that yet) and the other is alone in a void. Maybe they saw the face in the dark at some point and just wasn't sure if it was real or if the person is still there? (something like encountering mysteryman in undertale) Or is the person asking about the eye just separate from the person calling for help?
Either way, I'm really interested in this unused code world.
Thats a monumental work right here, props to you man
i have to say i like the start of the video
really makes me feel good you wont give up on anything and continue
one of the reasons i really like you as a youtuber keep goinnn
the amount of phrases from undertale and deltarune here really fit well.
I love your lore and datamine vids mate on Deltarune, sorry that CZcams fucks you up like that. Hope it will get sorted soon. Stay determined!
These videos are making me more interested in undertale/deltarune
Thanks bro
I've been watching a lot of your videos recently and I just want to say that you are doing all of this, regardless of the things in your way is incredibly respectable. Amazingly done with the things that you are doing and keep at it! We believe in ya!
Can we talk about how good the Chara voice is? It’s amazingly fitting for everyone’s favorite murderous lunatic / scrunkly scrimblo
Did the creator of the channel give him that voice or does he really exist?
You can get through this!
Man, toby fox hides a lot of secrets in the weirdest places... good
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
I know this is a year late, but as a viewer with misophonia I'm grateful for the text to speech. You really have fun with prose! At least it seems like it... Makes listening fun! Thank you for all these vids. You help me fall asleep at night
I would like to note Meat is at least mentioned in the sound test FUN event for UNDERTALE, so the grocery list could mean more than we think! (That, and Happy Town just makes me think of the light world being a small town they all live quietly in).
Does this mean we'll receive meaning for Trouble Dingle?
It isnt a grocery list, its the unused options for "WHAT IS ITS FAVORITE FOOD?" in the vessel creation
@@leedlelel2373 That still doesnt outright dispute my statement if true.
Ngl I flinched when I saw birdly's body there.
XD it freaked me out too, don't test glitches at 3am lol.
I love your channel, your videos are very interesting. It’s so fun to watch, and I’m going to support your channel as much as I can! Stay determined!
ive been binging your videos and i love your editing style and sense of humor, while all at the same time im still learning new things about undertale and deltarune. i love it. keep up the good work :)))
I can tell you put a LOT of effort into your videos! you didnt deserve the demonetization by those pesky youtube bots. Best wishes to you!
You can edit your save file to have all of the random quantities, putting them in the bar will only give them an empty text that instantly deletes itself, except for Jevil who has an empty text that soft locks you.
honestly a pretty well made video, the format is pretty good!
As someone who deals with terrible chronic pain, I understand. My job as a teacher is very, very difficult with this disability and I want to quit all the time. Spending all day on my feet, trying to get through all the paperwork with bad brain fog, the stress of dealing with terribly behaved kids, etc.
What's funny about that Spamton saying help me part, is how he reacts to it himself
For starters his eyes display static, as if there was interference
Then, after saying that line, he says "SEEMS LIKE THEY WHERE TALKING TO YOU"
What if SOMEONE was speaking trough Spamton?
The content is great enough, but what really got me was the personal posts at the beginning and end of the video. This is the first vid of yours I've watched, but it resonated. I've been seeing so many layers of irony piled onto talking about struggles these past few years. And so many calls to attention that are unaware of how difficult it is to get anything done with it, or are bitterly defeatist. It gets draining. But you're out here; aware but still earnestly trying despite your insecurities, despite facing doomer cynicism and a giant faceless corporation. You're a very real human, creating thoughtful and interesting content. Those primitive content-flagging bots don't know shit about you or your vids. Instant subscribe
Those likened sounds like a follower of Gaster reading a poem about him.
this channel is so nice for the fandom
On the blueprint, some of the symbols on the left appear to be the Japanese “konō” which translates roughly as “child”
Those squiggles do vaguely resemble that kanji. 子の but only vaguely. Honestly the の looks more like a ゆ and if it were meant to be read that way I'd expect it to look different between localizations, since Undertale/Deltarune are pretty good about updating images between the two to make sure players from different regions share the same experience. Good eye though!
hey, i'd just like to say that i really enjoy your videos :)
This man is just amazing. So fun to watch.
Love your videos don't give I know you have the determination within you to keep going ! .
The person trapped in the void feels like when Spamton says “can anybody hear me? Help” maybe they are the same
One of the ideas I have about the Unused text is that it belongs to the discarded vessel from start of Chapter 1, and that the Soul that "Kris" has, belongs to that vessel. Another thing I was going to mention is that we don't know when that text would take place within the given chapter, but the second chapter's text referring to not being heard, and hearing scratching, so that could be related to when the sink is too loud and the Soul is trapped, and the tires get Slashed.
dude i love your videos i watched one and now im hooked
Great video, I’ve just discovered your channel, super high quality theories
CZcams really sucks... I hope you can solve this monetization problem so you can continue doing what u love. Your content is really great and I’ll try my best to support you even though I can’t do much.
nice pfp
It's all good, your comments have more power than you know.
Super controversial theory: The being talking at the beginning of deltarune is the Mystery Man.
The Mystery Man was a goner created by Dr. Gaster who was shattered across time and space before he was eaten by the machcine that did the same to him. Now, I would imagine that the machine that did Gaster in was some kind of device that likely ressembled the dt extractor and the gaster blaster. However, the "Mouth" of the "Skull" was not a human soul sample tube or a laser gun muzzle extension, but a controlled opening that could open and close when the machine powers on and off. Likely, the machine malfunctioned and accidentally sucked gaster in, however he saved his two assistants (Sans and Alphys) from being eaten by the machine. With the timespace whole in a quantum on and off state, gaster's very existence would have been shattered very quickly within' its Jaws.
So, it's likely that gaster met back up with mystery man and used him as a way to talk to the player.
However, this is just my explanation for if the mysterious being/speaker at the beginning of deltarune was not gaster............
I really like your undertale/deltarune content.