Bokura - The Game That Transcends Realities
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[Timestamps]
00:00 - Introduction
01:05 - Overview
23:17 - Sponsorship
23:53 - Overview Continued
37:09 - Closing Thoughts
[Music]
00.00 | Ray ~ A Beam of Light - Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
01.05 | Misty Time - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
02.17 | Back on the Case - Alone in the Dark
03.05 | Heat Up - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
04.45 | Blind Alley - Persona 3 FES
05.55 | Grace Is Not Alright - Alone in the Dark
06.26 | Robot Laboratory ~ Unerasable Past - Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies
07.15 | Machine - Bokura
08.14 | Play It Again - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
09.19 | Hitting the Pavement - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
12.31 | An Unexpected Premonition - Persona 3 Reload
13.26 | Logic Trinity - Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies
15.31 | During the Test - Persona 3
16.35 | This Mysterious Feeling - Persona 3
18.57 | The Last Sleep - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
20.12 | Reinhold Manor - Professor Layton and the Curious Village
21.03 | Midnight - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
23.17 | Ace of Diamonds - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
23.53 | Rainy Night - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
25.26 | Bobby Fulbright ~ Our Secret Word is Justice! - Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies
25.47 | Monochrome - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
27.45 | Gloomy Basement - Professor Layton and the Curious Village
29.13 | Endless Road - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
30.30 | Resolution - Hotel Dusk: Room 215
33.57 | Septenary Game - Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
35.02 | Secrets - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
36.31 | Distant Memory - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
37.09 | Stand By Us - Bokura
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#bokura #puzzlegame #storygame #videoessay #gaming #gamingvideos - Hry
I think the differences in the worlds is because of how each boy disassociates after seeing the deer carcass, one trying to keep things light and cheerful while the other gets more cold and stilted
that doesnt explain how your head got ripped and you are still alive and then got attached to a dog death body
@@shiyon8947It's a more metaphorical interpretation
@@topcatfanBut it still doesn’t explain all the flesh tools and creatures.
@@theinfluencer1191 Not to mention you can take the guts of something put it bck together and and it just comes back to life. like is that guy magic? Is he Jesus? Can other people in the world do that?
It also doesn't explain Haru. especially considering the adults also seeing him as the many eyes monster.
So, apparently this is connected to the Dev's previous game, wich explains what is actually happening. Going to copy a post from the steam forums with the explanation so spoilers ahead.
- The robot world is the real world. The house-program in the old man's house is telling the truth. This is why at the end when the protagonists think of meeting with Haru again for who Haru is, they "both" see the robot world.
- The statue (peak antenna) is part of a global system designed to make robots think they are humans and humans are monsters. Any glitchy effects are a sign of malfunction. The protagonists seeing the real robot world and the fake animal world are malfunctions of the intended program.
- Haru is probably the only real human being in this game. He is only seen as human when the aforementioned program is malfunctioning, in both the real robot world and the fake animal world.
- The protagonists being beheaded and cloning themselves "makes sense" and "actually happen", because they are robots. Same goes for putting things back together and making things come back to life.
As such, the additional ending is a happy ending where the protagonists ultimately see the real world for what it is and reunite with Haru. They are not eaten. Haru has never actually killed any character.
This section was writen by einm on steam and not myself.
That's pretty cool, guess I'm gonna check out the other game then
Watching the vid I was able to put some of that together, with things generally making sense in Blues robotic world while Greens idyllic world had some uh....inconsistencies. Like, spinal platforms and putting dead bodies back together. Its good to know though the thing about Haru, that was the most confusing part about all this.
this blew my mind. what a cool and interesting world this developer created
That is incredibly interesting! I was already thinking about checking out Farewell Planet, but knowing now that it's connected to Bokura just seals the deal! Thank you
Whoaaa that's so damn trippy.
I did my job boss man, I'll be expecting my payment in red skittles soon
Only red??? No green?
Sounds like free labour to me
The bag man has spoken
Would you take M&M?
Demand better for yourself, get sour Skittles!
I think the reason the characters landed in their respective worlds is because of their upbringing.
Blue's mom is a poor barkeeper probably living in the poorer parts of the town -which usually means rundown appartments and most of their technology being broken, so he'd be more likely to see the world as a distopian place.
Green's rich and has neglectful parents, so he's probably more used to plush toys and children's education playthings to replace parnetal love (and probably nature too considering where snobs like his father live). So he's more used to the cuddly furry forest world.
*Why* they were transported into these worlds (it's definitely not just a visual thing) or what's up with Haru is a different thing. I'll just go with the usual "Mayor dumped radioactive waste and caused paradimensional psychic mutant" as my best guess.
My guess for why only those 3 boys are weird is that they all are half brothers
And also the mayor has radioactive sperm, like Spiderman but less fun
The "human world" is also a thing. It's all a matter of perspective. And the unfortunate truth is that those who have seen hardship and are scarred by it are often seen as people who are harder to get along with -- metaphorically, they're often seen as monsters. The things they've seen or felt lead them to act in ways that few others can properly relate to, or in some cases may even cause others to lash out at them.
Ig it added up to when blue see gory stuff he can easily just went to 'eh, that happened everyday' while green is just
Yeah
"I'm a bear?? :DD"
Mans made me smile he sounds so happy, good for him!!
7:14
He sounds like he has a wholesome moment
Bear :D
bear!!!
That reaction makes me happy.
"I'm a bear?! :D" puts a smile on my face.
I think neither parent saw Haru when he was trying to hug them, because they didn't see him for who he actually was, so he still looked like a monster trying to eat them. Green and Cyan though knew it was Haru, and saw him for who he really was.
So we never get to know how Haru turned into some blob monster?
It's a matter of metaphorical perspective. Were blue and green ever really robots or animals? The same can be said of Haru in either his human or blob form.
There's another comment that explains that it's related to the developer's other work. Basically, he ain't. I suggest you read it, it's pretty popular so not hard to find
he's the only human in a world of robots hence him appearing as a monster in the 'real' world
the absolute delight in your voice in finding out you were a bear on your friends screen was very funny and wholesome. Also this game seems so good, your videos always convince me to try out the games you cover. I'm a pretty big fan of puzzle games so I always look forward to seeing whatever you cover. Great video by the way
Bokura 僕ら ぼくら literally means "Us" in Japanese fyi
That's so cool
@@Rainydayz6478nice pfp
Here's a fun bit of additional context: Japanese doesn't distinguish between associative and additive plurality. "We" in English is only associative, since you mean "I and someone associated with me", rather than "multiple of me" (which would be additive). But in this game, there is more than one of each character in a certain sense, one for every world. So both interpretations make sense.
What's the point of additive plurality? The only use I see is in hypothetical settings
@@tasse0599 Without additive plurality, the normal English plural wouldn't exist. "brothers" is the additive plural of "brother". If it were an associative plural, "brothers" could also e.g. mean "my brother and his spouse" or "my brother and his pet cat".
In Japanese any plural can be either additive or associative and the context will determine how it's understood. Of course "we"/"us" will usually be intended as associative, but from a grammatical point of view, it technically allows for an additive meaning as well. Whereas in English that's not something you'd typically even consider.
The point here is not so much that "we" in Japanese explicitly also has an additive meaning, but that the distinction is never drawn in _any_ plural in the entire language, so it is _implicitly_ possible.
An analogy would be that in English, most pronouns have a reflexive form, e.g. "you" has "yourself" as the reflexive form. The word "who" is also a pronoun, but does not officially have a reflexive form. But you can still imagine a word like "whoseself" and understand its meaning because it derives regularly.
In Japanese, "bokura" in the additive sense would be similar, because plurals can predictably be either additive or associative. Even though this one is never additive in practice, one can imagine it being used that way because it's possible in every other case.
34:10 oh, you're the little brother dodging the hunter's arrows... :(
One lives in the poorer side of town so he sees the world as run down.
One is rich and educated but neglected so he sees the replacement affection such as toys and books.
And Haru was always seen as a monster, the one to blame for his parent’s misfortunes so that’s what he becomes.
I love how they both literally see the world differently after the deer corpse, most likely dissociating but it shows that despite growing up in the same world they how vastly different outlooks on life and ways of coping.
And how after talking to each other and finally discussing their differences in worldviews and their family situations, tho they are navigating the same world, the same forest, they both have to go through different obstacles to reach the same end point
The book mentioned in the night of the galactic railroad is actually a 20th century Japanese novel kinda related to the melancholic theme I guess. It’s a book where the protagonist is taken on in adventure into a galactic world on a train after having a rough day with his friend who he became distant with. Just thought it was a neat reference!
I checked my phone at work, waiting to take my break when you uploaded, thinking "oh man I can't wait for Ben's new video its gotta be coming our soon." Put it down to help a few customers, and now here i am
Haru's monster design reminds me of Mitty from Made in Abyss, down to the vore-esque cuddles lol
It reminds me of Noel from Witch's Heart
Bokura’s one of my all-time favourite games, for cerain! I had a lot of fun playing it with my friend, and I’m so glad to see you’ve made a video covering the game!
on the third playthrough they really put emphasis on the phrase "third time to charm"
23 minute introduction? damn, one hell of a complex game.
Hey ben,
I would like to suggest a series of 4 pixelated games for you that deal with the occult, mysteries, and more.
The games are:
5 days a stranger
Trilby's Notes
7 days a skeptic
6 days a sacrifice
They're mostly point and click except for Trilby's Notes.
Please give them a try.
Love your videos.
Seconded that would be fascinating
7 days before notes is better imo
Yes, the Chzo Mythos games are so good.
Oh my gosh that'd be incredible, the Chzo Mythos are some of my favorite games of all time.
Gonna play this with my dad
He has no idea what's going to happen
Lmao that's kind or genius
Can't wait for the parents choice
One of the characters seeing a robot world and "repairing" people reminds me of Qualia the Purple. I wonder if that was an inspiration
Ok for some reason I always happen to stumble upon your videos right around the time they're uploaded, this has happened like three times now
Same lol
This game speaks to me on some levels. I feel like the point the game is trying to tell is that everyone views the world differently. Heck i always felt like im living in a different world comapred to other people because i see things in a different way than others its like the difference between an introverts perspective and a extrovert's. People are different and thats what the 2 different worlds the protagonists are to my interpretation. Thanks Ben for amazing vid that I'll probably be still thinking about all night
Be the bear they would want to solve puzzles with in the woods
I've only ever seen this game from that one tiktok with the couple playing it, I'm so glad you made a video on this
Was really great!
I think I've seen those same tiktoks
This is one of the few games I’ve played! I am severely traumatized by it.. yippee!
This is one game you have to get *both* sides of. It’s a masterpiece. Thank you for covering it!
Also please please please play Don’t Escape: 4 Days to Survive and Deep Sleep by Scriptwielder please I’m begging you
what a unique puzzle game gem. absolutely adored how the puzzles and gameplay from both players were shown off here; it made the puzzle explanations more clear and the differences between player PoVs more noticeable. holy hell these were some of the more unique two-player puzzles i've seen in a while. phenomenal.
i do wonder what the deal was with the hunter, Haru, and the switching between worlds were. i guess we can just chalk it up to a glitch in the matrix lol
i'm also glad Blue, Green, and Haru all met up again! i legit would've been sad as hell if the two boys didn't at least perceive each other within the same space again, and Haru deserves better than whatever the hell kind of fate he accidentally landed himself in
banger video and banger video game. always a good time with Ben and friends
im so excited for you to play rusty lake hotel and that whole franchise - gives off similar vibes
I think the "plungers" during the waiting game are supposed to be arrows
_I don't think that you hunt rabbits with plungers_
Great work anyway, i didnt know there was a last ending or that this story is based on a previous game until now!
This was a FANTASTIC game to hear about, and another wonderful video from Ben! I always appreciate how he goes through all of the choices in the games he showcases, and will replay to show different paths like with We Were Here Too. And this was an incredibly deep and moving story he and Cyan have shown us. I LOVE the wildly different perspectives the game gives to each player - and the fact that playing through it multiple times with the same friend gets you the full story (or as full as it will tell you)? Incredible!
Haru~ 😭😭😭 you deserve the world 🌎 ♥
I saw a new game called Indika on Steam that seems like it might be up your alley. Gave me Alone in the Dark (2024) vibes
I have always seen people play this game in shorts and I was always curious about it but didn’t want to watch any old review, so thanks Ben for making video it really appreciated because your content is really entertaining and is really high quality and even if the video is long it still keeps my attention so thanks mate!
"content that's just interesting enough to make him forget the dull life he's living"
Didn't have to call us all out like that geez...
the sponsorships are placed really well each time man. looking forward to more!
i love this game so much. surprisingly, both of the boys reflected me and my best friend's personalities and life perfectly. it was a little scary how accurate it was! lol :) amazing video as always
I find it funny how Blue gets the mechanical wonder while Green gets the Organic trauma.
Day 61 of reqeuting you to play Oneshot and your turn to die death game by majority.
Can't speak for Your Turn to Die, but OneShot is a genuinely amazing experience.
Ben playing yttd would be more serialised,wich I dunno if he could do that. I would love for him to do so but not sure if people would watch it all the way through
OneShot is awesome. Incredibly good.
To be fair YTTD isn't a completed game and has a lot more going on that prob can't be condensed into 1 single video; but both options would be fun to see
YTTD would be such a good idea
I really don't want to be reductive here, but this gives me serious Silent Hill vibes. Right down to certain actions taking during the "Other World" somehow effecting reality in one of several endings you get.
That's a good thing though. A throughly captivating experience watching this all, and being left with mysteries without answers, to keep you thinking.
continue we were here please IVE BEEN WAITING AND I STILL AM
Thanks for the video, Ben
There are apparently three endings
Woah, never heard of this before! Thanks for covering it, I can't wait to play it myself!
Lovely video as always! Keep it up!
Needed this vid after a rough exam, time to watch BEN AGAIN!!
Ben again video on the birthday hell ya
Honey wake up, new Ben Again Vídeo dropped
I’m so glad you did a video on this game I was hoping you would
God damn it i really wanna play this with my friend so im not gonna watch the video until then. but i already know im not going to get round to it, but theres still a chance. i am sorry sir Benjamin once more, for i most likely will never truly see this video.
congrats on the 100k:)
Thank you for telling me about this. That story was so good
SPEAKING OF CO OP PUZZLE GAMES.When will pt3 come pls 🙏. To clarify the WE WERE HERE SRIES!!!
😭😭😭 im so happy for another video it’s my birthday today-
Man, i remember randomly finding some people play this game, but i was really lost on what the story was. Really glad you covered this game!
I hypothesize that the creature sent them 3 years into the future & into 2 separate universes caused by their disappearance.
1 was effected more by blue & 1 more by green.
Excellent review :)
I've seen someone play this game before on stream and yeah, it's great!!
I'm so glad a video like this exists, i hope you got more people into this game
That is amazing heartfelt story and man the world the creators made is just so interesting
Man I love co-op games
Love the video!
Wow very cool, thank you
What a cool and interesting game. Thanks for making a vid on it Ben. Have a fantastic day 😃
I love op's work, very swag narations & scripts with funny clips. I especially like that I now have Another puzzle game to recc to my puzzle-loving friend.
This was a really cool video
BEN AGAIN POSTED YEAAAAA‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I beg you, release the long play on Ben Again Again, i'd watch the heck out of it
I’ve never heard of this, but I’m interested
Hi Ben! Thanks for the video! Gonna watch it!
Why did I tear up? the ending was nice and nothing depressing happened, but something about this game after the second gameplay just made me really emotional. I can't wait to play it myself. Thank you for another great video!
I played this game and was on the robot side as well! I had NO idea we had different soundtracks either, it makes me really want to replay this on the animal side.
My friend and I played this together (I was green) and we decided that it was about implicit bias, that the way we’re raised and the things we believe all affect how we see the world and how we cope with trauma. Blue sees the world as robotic and mechanical because he’s detaching himself from his emotions, and thinking through things logically. It also makes all of the deaths and game mechanics less (relatively) emotional, because they’re all robots. Conversely, Green is very optimistic about the world, and is bright and cheerful to make up for his pain. He is more emotional, which is why all of the death scenes and the scenes with the dogs are all so grotesque. Green sees all the world in opposite ends of the spectrum- happy and cute, and bloody and grotesque- Blue is the equilibrium, he doesn’t see the world as very cute, but all of the darker elements are mellowed out.
Idk this probably doesn’t make sense but the game’s about implicit bias ty for coming to my ted talk
The main menu sounds, based on how you described it, like it's supposed to be a puzzle. The fact that a home and logout button are instead used for host and client seems intentionall unintuitive -- you had to communicate with your play partner in order to better understand the situation.
nearly cried at the professor layton music
This is such an interesting psychological game, I loved the mechanics, the exploration of the distinct personalities of both characters and their inner conflicts!
I was hoping someone I watched would play this game
Babe wake up new Ben Again video
oh my god im crying this is so beautiful. what an amazing way to show how trauma changes the world for people, and even if its 'better' or someone theres still horrors in it, and joys in a bleak world. AND HARU!!! im!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is very interesting
thanks, i needed my morning existential crisis & melancholy :)
This game is such a cool idea. I really dig it
I would love to see Angels of Death review from you
fuck yeah bokura mention
Nice new vid from Ben (big ben😂😂😂)
Btw when you talk about the game boy mini game the projectiles you have to doge arent plungers... they're the hunter's crossbow bolts
Will you play the Last Window The Secret of Cape West pls 😢
going into my "I love this" list
I've wanted to see a mix of the robotic industrial theme and a fleshy nature like theme so i absolutely live how this game did this.
This game looks sick, my friend and I have been looking for a new co op game
Here in Costa Rica Pake sounds like the way we pronounce paque. Which is a way to describe shitty/ bad things. Which makes pakemon 100 times funnier for us as it sounds like discount Pokémon all around xD
i was zoning out for a lot of the start of this video but then i heard the goddamn Hotel Dusk/Last Window music and snapped back to reality.
I watched one mine of this video, closed it, immediately bought the game and played it. It was extremely excellent.
Lore of Bokura - The Game That Transcends Realities momentum 100
I think that the people are living in a simulated world, and you are experiencing a glitch in the program, where it stops working for one, and bugs out and gives you the cartoon world for another.
I cried playing this game with a friend
god i just love this channel so much
Hey! Can you try Illusion carnival next. It’s an indie rpg game that is currently in demo, it has a lot of dark twists and I think you would enjoy playing.
Edit: also I forgot to say this but great video btw.
gotta check out this game, looks perfect to play with my sister :-] (she would kill for happy animal land just as much as id kill for sad robot land)
I would love to dee a video about the most unfair horror flash game series, the Cursed trillogy. Bens content when he talks about pretty polarizing games can be fun, and Cursed is very much a slightly unfair instant death prone treat, which has awesome elements behind being a very cruel series.
Hey i definitely think you'd like the hello Charlotte game series, it definitely has horror aspects and an interesting story that branches out depending on your choices.
wish I could play this with my sister