Beethoven: Symphony no. 9 (2020) | John Eliot Gardiner & Monteverdi Choir
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Beethoven: Symphony no. 9 in D minor, op. 125
Lucy Crowe | Soprano
Jess Dandy | Contralto
Ed Lyon | Tenor
Tareq Nazmi | Bass
Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique
Monteverdi Choir
Conducted by John Eliot Gardiner
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I. Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso 0:00
II. Molto vivace(Scherzo with Trio) 13:31
III. Adagio molto e cantabile, andante moderato 26:23
IV. Finale 38:35
(vocal enters at 44:34)
Thank you Juho. :)
@@250thchannel8 I was so glad to listen such a great performance!! Thank you for the sharing!!!🙏🏻
@@kkkangjoo.NM.cembalo my pleasure. :)
"Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso"... Warum laufen sie dann?
Thank you, Juho! :-) Surprised, but not too surprised(!), to see you here.
Fourth Movement Guide (in Mini Symphony format):
The First Movement:
38:35 Schreckensfanfare (“Fanfare of Terror”) (as called by Wagner), Presto
38:44 Recitatives in the Basses
39:19 Quotation of the first movement, Allegro ma non troppo
39:32 Rejection of the first movement
39:54 Quotation of the second movement, Molto vivace
39:59 Rejection of the second movement
40:14 Quotation of the third movement, Adagio molto e cantabile
40:23 Rejection of the third movement
40:44 Hints of the upcoming theme
40:49 Basses transition us into…
41:12 The Ode to Joy Theme
41:49 Variation 1
42:30 Variation 2
43:10 Variation 3 (Tutti)
43:48 Codetta, which transitions us into…
44:26 The Return of the Schreckensfanfare, Presto
44:35 The Vocals come in with a Recitative, “O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!”
45:21 Variation 4, “Freude, schöner Götterfunken”
46:01 Variation 5, “Wem der große Wurf gelungen”
46:41 Variation 6, “Freude trinken alle Wesen”
47:16 Transition to…
The Second Movement:
47:36 Introduction to…
47:44 Variation 7, Turkish march
48:09 Variation 8, “Froh, wie seine Sonnen fliegen”
48:52 Epic Double Fugue based on Variation 8
50:04 Horns transition us into…
50:18 Variation 9 (The final and most climatic variation)
50:55 Transition to…
The Third Movement:
50:59 “Seid umschlungen, Millionen!”, Andante maestoso
51:41 "Brüder, über'm Sternenzelt"
52:24 “Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen?”, Adagio ma non troppo, ma divoto
53:44 Transition into…
The Fourth Movement:
54:04 Double Fugue based on “Freude” and “Seid umschlungen”, Allegro energico, sempre ben marcato
55:34 Chorus repeats “Ihr stürzt nieder, Millionen?”
56:07 Transition to…
56:19 Coda figure 1, Allegro ma non tanto
57:40 Coda figure 2, Poco adagio
58:33 Strings transition us into…
58:41 Coda figure 3, Prestissimo (The best part in my opinion. :D)
The ninth symphony is the eighth wonder of the world
I love that! I always struggled to explain the 9th because you can’t just say it’s a piece of music, It’s an experience every time and symbolizes so much.
Happy 250th birthday, Beethoven! I love his music forever and ever
john eliot gardiner's beethoven is rock'n roll ! I like it !
Thank you so much for this great concert on my birthday last year! Also great to listen to this great symphony performed on original instruments from the early 19th Century.
People have little idea how difficult it is to play on these old brass instruments
Incredible!!! I wish I was there in person. Great quality recording.
Adorable. He is always finding a new way. Thanks a lot for sharing
Me ha emocionado más que otras muchas grabaciones, y creo que es por los instrumentos utilizados. Esta interpretación creo que esta más cerca de lo que creo Beethoven.
Grande aquel que se acerque,se entregue y ejecute las obras de Beethoven !
Unbelieable! An add, right in the middle of the quiet sentence in the choral finalie!
Thanks for sharing.
Bravo. This was wonderful.
PURA MARAVILLA
Thanks!
فخر بشریت...!✨
BRAVI !!
26:43 gentle, warm | 41:20 Ode to Joy | 59:50 happy finale
Moltes gràcies, Thank you, 250th Channel. Aquest Concert va tenir lloc al Palau de la Música Catalana de Barcelona el día 14 de febrer de l'any 2020.
So this must have been one of the last concerts they were able to do before the entire world went into lockdown.
I think the complaints about the tempo are way overstated but I feel like the "allegro ma non tanto" section in the last movement was taken way too fast. It's marked as 120 but I think it was taken faster here
Con instrumentos de época
Hmm. The first movement is played way too fast. Remember, it is marked as allegro ma non troppo un poco meastoso for a good reason. 5th symphony is just plain allegro con brio, for a very good reason. There is a difference between those tempos.
But the 5th symphony interpretation is the best I have heard, I will give you that
Well, next to the allegro na non troppo Beethiven also wrote a metronome of quarter=88.
And Gardiner is coming very close to that marking.
So actually you could say, all other recordings are too slow
You're right @parsifal6094 , that's the way Beethoven would like it to be. I always fall asleep to any Beethoven 9Th. 1st. movement that took longer that 15 mins ha ha
Is the concertmaster Giovanni Antonini's twin?
I agree with another poster - this symphony is the eighth wonder of the world! But if I may be direct, not this version. I was delighted to hear that it was performed on original instruments, but it's the quickest version I ever heard - and LvB himself notated much slower speeds, esp. on the final movement. For some reason, JEG absolutely tore through the score at electric pace - I mean, it's good (it IS Beethoven's 9th after all), but why so fast? (Sir Roger Norrington recorded it on disc [not the live YT version here] with original instruments AND at LvB's notated speeds, it will sound positively pedestrian compared to this version...until you get used to it).
I can HEAR that lower tuning.... first note.
26:19 is wrong.
Gardiner vs Nottington?
Gardiner indeed
이게 비교가 되냐 씹ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@gena4745ㄹㅇㅋㅋ 가디너를 어따비비노
No need to select one. Both are wonderful with different, though equally legitimate, visions.
Just a few seconds shorter and it would be exactly 1 hour
47:37
Sections of the Last movement too damned fast...why the breakneck speed? Both the orchestra and singers are excellent but the tempo often worked against them. Brass section was often raucous, too. This performance not in my top 100...sorry
I totally agree. It's so darn fast the entire vibe gets lost. It looks as if the whole orchestra has to go to the bathroom and wants to get this gig over with pronto.
estos hombres no son humanos... (Beethoven y Gardiner)
Alguien podría decirme porque suena tan raro? Con muchos errores y eso que no soy experto me doy cuenta.
Tengo la grabación del propio Gardiner en Archiv de esta sinfonía y suena completamente distinto. Qué pasó aquí? 😢
Gardiner’s recordings are very different than his live performances. You’ll notice many of the mistakes are in the brass and winds. The instruments of the time period, the ones performed on here, were not well developed. The horns for example are valveless “natural” horns and the parts become far more difficult to play (they’re hard even on a valved horn, you can imagine how difficult it is without valves). The wind instruments are not as developed, so you’ll notice tuning is difficult to maintain, especially for the double reeds. His recordings are perfect BECAUSE they have time. They re-recorded many many many times to get a perfect recording, whereas in a live performance a perfect performance is nearly impossible due to the nature of the instruments.
Será porque usaron instrumentos de la época en que fue escrita, por ejemplo no usan cuerdas de metal son de tripa.
54:04 double fugue
everyone played and sang their pants off for fear of being slapped by Gardiner.
Or fear he might increase the tempo
The quality of the recording is very well done, one of the best.I wish I could say the same for the conductor. Did someone make a bet with him if he could do the 9th in under an hour? How embarrassing. It is fun to play this for friend though and get a good laugh. Most people think I speeded up the recording. It's sad that all someone has to do is play the fastest Beethoven to date and they get massive recognition. But John Gardiner won't last ,for there's probably another idiot out there now who's going to play it even faster and he will be the next big thing. There's more to impressive conducting then just playing everything 100 MPH
Just get blocked at Karajan recordings. 🥱 Its like those Karl Richter JS Bach interpretations fanboys. This is probably one of the most accurate performances of Beethoven work.
Gardiner is historic interpreter, not just ego conductor. His study of the ancient music and musicology klowledge just stun conventional listeners.
@@Quim141 Thanks for the info. I've been doing a little research on Gardiner and he does have scholar-like knowledge of music and time period instruments as well. I was very impressed with what I read about him. When it comes to Beethoven's symphonies I tend to like a slower 5th& 9th Symphs and a faster 6th & 7th
@@ThePreAmpChannel Take a look at Beethoven's metronome marks for this symphony, it's not a matter of your taste, its a fact that he wrote it in this tempo. And the arguments that his metronome was broken are stupid. This is the tempo he wrote it, and if you don't like it, go complain to Beethoven
@@ThePreAmpChannel Might as well call Beethoven an idiot because Gardiner played it the way Beethoven wrote it.
Wonderful performance! I tend to stick with the Oslo orchestra by the handsome young world class conductor I'm totally not at all jealous of Klaus Makela or something. Jarvis 1-9 all great. Was a great rendition from 2017 PROMS buy I can't find it anymore
Es muy lamentable amputarle nada menos que un cuarto de hora a la 9a. Sinfonía de Beethoven: es sencillamente un delito imperdonable... Así de claro...😲🤦🤷🏻♂️😱
Really not my cup of tea. It's not bad but i've seen better. I like it better when it's a little slower.
fishswiss. Our personal taste is not interesting. More interesting is the fact that the English conductor George Smart in 1837 notated the running time for all four movements as: 14, 11, 12 and 23.5 minutes. 60.5 minutes total, very close to Gardiners performance.
The most important thing is what Beethoven wanted, and he notated all the metronome markings.
Actually the tempi of Gardiner are faithful to the will if the composer
Perhaps they wanted to completely recreate the premiere, with a deaf man conducting and very few time for rehearsal. I usually appreciate quite a lot Gardiner and the ORR, but I fear that in this performance they have completely failed. Lots of technical errors, incomprehensible tempi, even an almost complete lack of poetry in the last movement. Incredible. All the others Beethoven's symphonies performed by the ORR here on YT are wonderful though.
JEG's tempi interpretations are my main sticking point with him. His interpretations always feel rushed to me. This recording of Bach's Magnificat being a particularly egregious example. The speed at which they take the opening movement sounds absolutely horrible. No majesty at all in this version: czcams.com/video/hJQJkZKay2Q/video.html
Ha!! I agree... this interpretation is not my favorite at all either. While I admire Gardiner as a conductor; and many other conductor's interpretations of this work, I always can't help but go back to Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and Chorus. Shaw was probably one of the most humble music-makers ever, and with this work particularly, he took his time with it and brought out the beauty and majesty of it. Not to mention the chorus being the best ever.... (in my opinion) :-)
How about the Gardiner CD you can buy from the 90s that he did? You like that one better?
@@Acujeremy Hello. Yes, I do like his recording of the 9th Symphony. I have always loved his sound and his choir, but I still do feel the same when it comes to the recording and this live concert. As great as they are, I can't help but feel that Gardiner rushes with his tempi, particularly in the very beginning, and several places in the choral parts.
@@jacobbump1282 So which CD do you recommend I buy to hear Beethoven 9th at its best?
Dreadful!!!!! Sounds like a bad military band.
Just played on historical instruments.
The Wagner-sound we are used to today wasn't yet invented back in 1824
43:10: ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE!
41:12: IS WHERE THE ACTION STARTS!