Beethoven Symphony No 5 C minor John Eliot Gardiner Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique 2016

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  • @nickmaestro
    @nickmaestro Před 7 měsíci +17

    I’ve played the 5th countless times on violin, viola and bass. I’ve listened to so many recordings. Berlin, Concertgebouw, Chicago, Vienna, etc. This is by far the best I’ve heard. Period instruments and tuning, and perfectly executed tempos.

  • @carlrosa1130
    @carlrosa1130 Před rokem +61

    This is how Beethoven demanded his 5th symphony be performed - 108 beats per minute. Even when he was alive, he was furious that other conductors/musicians were performing it too slow. There is an energy to it that I adore.

    • @euhdink4501
      @euhdink4501 Před rokem +3

      Take a look at youtube 'Authenticsound' and learn.

    • @carlrosa1130
      @carlrosa1130 Před rokem +7

      @@euhdink4501 I've already seen it. What's your point? What do I have to learn? That Beethoven's comments on the score of 108 beats per minute was a forgery? What am I supposed to learn by watching it a second time?

    • @searchmeinyoutube
      @searchmeinyoutube Před rokem +2

      I think Beethoven wrote 108 to Half Note, and not Fourth Note. So, it's not technically 108 "BPM", but never mind.

    • @carlrosa1130
      @carlrosa1130 Před rokem +7

      @@searchmeinyoutube First and foremost, thank you for the comment. What Beethoven actually wrote was - "Allegro Con Brio, Metronome Mark 108" and although many musicians find it hard to believe (and perform well), Benjamin Zander studied the 5th/6th exhaustively before returning to Boston. According to Zander - "Beethoven purposely meant 108 bpm because the speed of it was an attack on complacency." Thanks again for the comment, Ram.

    • @bobd5119
      @bobd5119 Před rokem +1

      Thanks for your comment. Even before I read it, I decided the tempo was too fast. If that is what Beethoven wanted, he disagreed with me, and I am right.

  • @jduff59
    @jduff59 Před 3 lety +33

    Sounds just like it did back in 1808, when I was still a handsome young lad. We were all shocked to see 3 trombones - Oh, the scenes!

  • @jaysparc
    @jaysparc Před 3 lety +33

    I was looking for a Beethoven 5 recording this morning. Listened to Bernstein with Vienna, just wasn't cutting it. I'm tired of romantic interpretations of Classical era music. I love period instruments and stumbled on this recording. I was taken aback almost from the start. Hearing those natural horns blast, then actual clear sounding strings, finally at a Beethovenesque tempo. I'm blown away by this. The freedom in the sound, the non-romanticization. A stunning recording.

  • @soooti6993
    @soooti6993 Před rokem +29

    What I like about this performance is that it’s historically accurate. Some play the baroque violin or the baroque cello and everyone is using gut strings which create this crystal clear natural kind of sound. The clarinets, trumpets, horns and oboes are like the ones from the late 1700s. Also the interpretation is more like a late baroque or classical one and not a romantic one… for me the tempo is perfect, the phrases are not monotonous and filled with too much vibrato, but very vivid and filled with emotions. I am so happy that this great interpretation exists! I will only listen to this recording from now on…

    • @marconias
      @marconias Před rokem

      I sure would love to have this performance/recording on CD. Any help?

    • @soooti6993
      @soooti6993 Před rokem

      I found it on Spotify. But I don’t know if the CD is available…

  • @chrisknowles7889
    @chrisknowles7889 Před 4 lety +23

    How have I just discovered this glorious version that makes modern orchestral versions sound like wading through a turgid swamp?

  • @marpsr
    @marpsr Před 4 měsíci +5

    Honestly, after hearing Beethoven performed like this, like he intended, it’s almost impossible to listen to other recordings and take them seriously.

    • @antonioschiavi6870
      @antonioschiavi6870 Před 3 měsíci

      Per me invece ha perso ogni significato ideale ed è diventata superficiale e frivola.

  • @FugieGamers
    @FugieGamers Před 5 lety +150

    I've heard so many different interpretations and this is easily the best, it's like hearing the symphony for the first time again.

    • @katydid2k
      @katydid2k Před 4 lety +2

      For me as well!!

    • @thescientific7284
      @thescientific7284 Před rokem

      Yes

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 Před rokem +1

      The best? Have you heard Markevitch?

    • @AntonMoiseyenko
      @AntonMoiseyenko Před rokem

      Same feeling! Such a refreshing performance!

    • @randywoolf
      @randywoolf Před rokem

      @@AntonMoiseyenko yes yes yes. It reminds me of the moment I started to like classical music...listening to LvB's Op. 59.

  • @itsrobertocataldi
    @itsrobertocataldi Před 5 lety +61

    Allegro con brio 00:01
    Andante con moto 06:50
    Allegro - Scherzo 15:30
    Allegro 22:49

  • @horstimberger8422
    @horstimberger8422 Před 3 lety +40

    Having heard and grown up in the Germanic tradition of the symphony, with much slower tempi and often with added players, it's refreshing and instructive to hear such a performance as this. Extremely well played and directed. A convincing interpretation

    • @MartinMerayoUCDM
      @MartinMerayoUCDM Před 5 měsíci +1

      And we could add that this version sound even more powerfull than the ones with added players. And small string section.

  • @fermcueto
    @fermcueto Před 6 lety +53

    YEEEEAHHHH NON VIBRATO, EXCELLENT PHRASING, BEETHOVEN TEMPI!!!

  • @alhassant9204
    @alhassant9204 Před 4 lety +19

    108bpm... how Beethoven intended it to be played. Fantastic!

  • @h-zhao
    @h-zhao Před 11 měsíci +8

    The greatest interpretation of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony of the twenty-first century! Actually, of all time!

  • @oliverkohnremove3140
    @oliverkohnremove3140 Před 3 lety +12

    Beautiful made my eyes water

  • @thomasdinan9667
    @thomasdinan9667 Před 2 lety +7

    NOW this piece makes sense to me!

    • @fistlaw2831
      @fistlaw2831 Před 4 měsíci

      That was my EXACT thoughts hearing this rendition. Now it makes sense!

  • @jarodvmusic
    @jarodvmusic Před 11 měsíci +4

    The best Beethoven 5th I have ever heard. Gardiner once again gives a piece a new light with a fresh and lively quality to it.

  • @GTA.Sven.Andreas
    @GTA.Sven.Andreas Před 4 lety +33

    this is by far the most powerful version I have ever heard...great!

    • @Lee_music249
      @Lee_music249 Před 2 lety

      Wish I could agree. Have you heard this one by thielemann? czcams.com/video/Ub91tOj_j_c/video.html

  • @brunobaraldoo
    @brunobaraldoo Před 3 lety +5

    Breathtaking! Thanks god for MUSIC

  • @thepolyglotfarmer6085
    @thepolyglotfarmer6085 Před 2 lety +5

    Best performance ever

  • @beatriceuhlmann4917
    @beatriceuhlmann4917 Před 4 lety +6

    Die Beste 5.die ich je gehört habe!!!

  • @brianwilliams9235
    @brianwilliams9235 Před 3 lety +6

    Under such speed, using periodic instruments, the sound has a crystal core, with muddy texture, and the music speak itself -- superb players orchestrated under the great barton of J. E. Gardiner! I used to addict to HvK's cycle for Beethoven symphonies, then gradually get into Gardiner's and dumped HvK.

  • @jameswang4802
    @jameswang4802 Před 4 lety +6

    He understands Beethoven !

  • @katydid2k
    @katydid2k Před 4 lety +11

    Actually, physically, literally electrifying! I am blown away--spoiled for life after hearing this, period. I never heard the 5th before hearing *this* 5th. Yes indeed: play it loud!

  • @sstuddert
    @sstuddert Před 2 lety +9

    5:11 The transition from the end of the recapitulation to the beginning of the coda, during the first movement, is the greatest moment of all time. It's as though Beethoven is saying "this is the end of the classical era."

    • @tj-co9go
      @tj-co9go Před rokem

      Yeah. But already his 3rd symphony felt like the end of it with it two first abrupt chords and the following music

    • @sstuddert
      @sstuddert Před rokem +1

      @@tj-co9go Forget about the two abrupt chords at the beginning, what about those wild dissonances in the development section of the same movement? Holy Mother of God, Beethoven has gone AWOL.

    • @tj-co9go
      @tj-co9go Před rokem

      @@sstuddert you are correct. The syncopated, loud rhythms

  • @spg5765
    @spg5765 Před 3 lety +5

    Cette interprétation aiguise la 5ème symphonie comme un couteau, quel tranchant ! Magnifique.

  • @Almond_Boy
    @Almond_Boy Před 4 lety +16

    1st Movement
    Exposition 00:00
    Development 2:35
    Recapitulation 3:50
    Coda 5:18

  • @colinmurphy2214
    @colinmurphy2214 Před 6 lety +40

    Best interpretation

  • @amusiq
    @amusiq Před 5 lety +32

    Sublime.... I will never watch another interpretation.

  • @capezyo
    @capezyo Před 3 lety +5

    The speed of the string playing on the 3rd. mov. fugue is amazing

  • @user-lj7md8sv7d
    @user-lj7md8sv7d Před 5 lety +28

    The performance is fire, blaze!
    Sir Eliot Gardiner is phenomenal conductor!!!
    The musicians are superb!

  • @xaixanac
    @xaixanac Před 7 lety +10

    How refreshingly revolutionary, Beethoven resurrected: SUPERB

  • @sweetjesus5626
    @sweetjesus5626 Před 5 lety +15

    That bass cue at 19:57, do your thing

  • @vladcassidy8313
    @vladcassidy8313 Před 3 lety +6

    My favourite rendition. 🎶

  • @tomamanojlovic6630
    @tomamanojlovic6630 Před 6 lety +7

    A new era of musical interpretation is being initiated here!

  • @anthropocentrus
    @anthropocentrus Před 2 lety +3

    I’m ashamed…thinking that I had heard the 5th symphony before….well I can NOW say I did…simply revolutionnaire !

  • @michaelcherry8952
    @michaelcherry8952 Před 4 lety +15

    Beethoven and John Elliot Gardiner to most modern conductors of the Fifth Symphony: "What part of ALLEGRO do you not understand?"

    • @oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288
      @oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288 Před 4 lety +1

      The part where it's actually Prestissimo. Beethoven gives "Allegro con Brio" for the first part, but the metronome mark is in Prestissimo range (crochet 216).

    • @dukeofcurls3183
      @dukeofcurls3183 Před 4 lety +1

      @@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288 the whole idea of certain tempo markings having a set range of metronome markings is complete nonsense, it depends on the piece, and I think 108 (yes it's 108, not 216, because the movement is supposed to be felt in one beat to the bar rather than two) suits an Allegro con brio well in this context, though I would personally take it a little bit slower

  • @Sploooks
    @Sploooks Před 5 lety +6

    Kinda love how fast he does everything.

  • @antoniomolinagarcia
    @antoniomolinagarcia Před 5 lety +15

    For sure, the best Beethoven I've heard.

  • @jh7100
    @jh7100 Před 4 lety +44

    I’m am listening to this emotional rendition and this is the first time I’ve been able to weep and feel what I’ve bottled up inside me since the start of the corona virus pandemic. And when the last movement was played, it filled me with hope! Thank you. This performance is truly a gift. Thank you.

  • @rbaxter286
    @rbaxter286 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Ian Hislop documentary that goes with this is HUGELY informative and entertaining ..., especially the tie in with Beethoven's music and the French Revolution themes. Rarely found a pair of videos that bookended each other better, and NEVER have seen that quality in US documentaries.
    That relationship shows WHY the brisk tempo and energy is ABSOLUTELY necessary!

  • @PanzerDave
    @PanzerDave Před 4 lety +10

    I have quite a few versions of this symphony, including several on slate 78s! This is one of my two favorites. I particularly like the use of period instruments. The other one I like at as much, and in some ways more, is the one by the Berlin Philharmonic conduced by Wilhelm Furtwangler in Berlin in 1943, Thank you so much for posting this!

  • @henkbroer2562
    @henkbroer2562 Před rokem +3

    Wat een geweldige vertolking. Zoveel spanning en drama. Wat een geweldige interpretatie. Een absolute belevenis voor musicus en dirigent. Met verbazing gekeken en geluisterd. Verbazingwekkende uitvoering. Dit moet toch een feest zijn om te vertolken!

    • @henkbroer2562
      @henkbroer2562 Před rokem

      Dank voor de voor uw reactie voor de opmerking die ik maakte n.a.v symfonie 5 van Beethoven, uitgevoerd onder leiding van J.E.Gardiner! Thanks!

  • @akzapelcastre2590
    @akzapelcastre2590 Před 5 lety +60

    After listening to dozens of versions of the Beethoven´s cycle, some exalted and others not so much, enlist Sir John Eliot Gardiner and his Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique, daring, lively, cheerful, uplifting, natural and brave. This is the definitive cycle.

    • @cziffra-eg9st
      @cziffra-eg9st Před 3 lety +2

      for me, its either Furtwangler or Kleiber. This one is also impressive though

    • @saadalsafi8872
      @saadalsafi8872 Před 2 lety +1

      I think you forgetted about karajan and ferenc friscay

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 Před rokem +1

      Not even close

  • @georgeluft7881
    @georgeluft7881 Před rokem +2

    I just love the use of early 19th-century instruments.

  • @kouroushsadeghzadeh1172
    @kouroushsadeghzadeh1172 Před 4 lety +22

    Majestic, marvelous, superb! The most powerful and the best performance of Beethoven's 5th I have ever listened. Right tempo: 108 beats per minute. Bravo Beethoven! Bravo maestro John Eliot Gardiner! Bravo Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique

  • @jeremylandig2069
    @jeremylandig2069 Před 4 lety +3

    This orchestra is absolutely stellar in a live performance too. So glad they came to Chicago in 2020 just before everything shut down!!!

    • @vsevsad9376
      @vsevsad9376  Před 4 lety

      I might be going to London for these concerts

  • @jprtoledo
    @jprtoledo Před 2 lety +3

    The best version!

  • @bgrant64
    @bgrant64 Před 4 lety +5

    I do so love how this comes out of the delicate ending of the Scherzo and launches into the full blazing fire of the Allegro! No pause between movements, it simply over whelms you. To me it wants me to rise from my seat! Gives me goosebumps and a lump in my throat!!

    • @rbaxter286
      @rbaxter286 Před 6 měsíci

      Rise up, like the veteran of the French Revolutionary Army did in a Paris performance.

  • @AntonMoiseyenko
    @AntonMoiseyenko Před rokem +11

    This is one of the best performances I’ve ever heard! So energetic and logic! The orchestra sounds incredible! I’m in tears, bravi tutti!

  • @danhazen2195
    @danhazen2195 Před 2 lety +3

    This is exciting and heart moving. The original way of playing this masterpiece is enthralling.

  • @kenkappler9352
    @kenkappler9352 Před 5 lety +4

    Fantastic performance!!!! Bravo!!!! I wish the quality of the recording was what the performance deserved.

  • @jimmerritt6340
    @jimmerritt6340 Před 3 lety +3

    Bravo bravo as loud as I can!

  • @Xelvonar
    @Xelvonar Před 2 lety +13

    The tempo is fast, but I trust Mr. Gardiner's research that this is close to the tempo that Beethoven likely intended. Also, the period instruments, with their lesser resonance, help with the faster tempo. More modern instruments might sound muddy at this tempo.

    • @Lee_music249
      @Lee_music249 Před 2 lety

      Yea it's a bit fast for me. I think it would have been more effective and convincing if he slowed up just a tad around the tension points of the first mvt. and allowed the music to breathe just that bit more. I honestly don't think the tempo works through some of these passages of the 2nd mvt. as I'm still listening while typing this. Tempo isn't a law, and really shouldn't be scrutinized so heavily in my book. But you can clearly hear where it works and where it doesn't.

    • @rexsojo
      @rexsojo Před 2 lety +1

      Opening tempo as written by Beethoven is 108. So yes fast. I believe this is a good interpretation as well as the fermata in the first five bars which drives me crazy when held too long or not long enough. We all have our own interpretational preferences which makes it all very interesting. Thank god for recordings so we can play our favorites over and over; and be challenged by others. This is one of my favorite interpretations.

    • @Lee_music249
      @Lee_music249 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rexsojo don't wanna argue. Perhaps its not solely the tempo. The violins were struggling to keep up with each other, and was not together in a lot of those fast passages. But it could be they were just not playing as well in this recording, or tired, or what have you. But it comes across as very labored and forced. It could have been a lot better. I think he should do another recording, and consider some refinements on his approach, and I mean that respectively. We can always do better.

  • @DD-jj3vq
    @DD-jj3vq Před 5 lety +4

    Best, most intense performance ever. You so rarely hear it played with such unrelenting power.

  • @sorenthomas4776
    @sorenthomas4776 Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing performance.
    Made me laugh and cry.
    And put me in a place of musical appreciation I have not been in decades.
    Thank you!

  • @c.a.g.3130
    @c.a.g.3130 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Delightful, like rockets going off! The only interpretation of the 5th that is distinct from all others. Ludwig would've LOVED it! (Also, the ONLY performance that actually honors Beethoven's metronome marking of 108 to the bar, and yet never seems rushed, just vivacious: talk about 'con brio!'.)

  • @rafaojrzynski7423
    @rafaojrzynski7423 Před 4 lety +2

    Un'esecuzione MAGISTRALE. Punto. Nient'altro da aggiungere. Lunga vita a J.E. Gardiner!

  • @CamiloArnaldo
    @CamiloArnaldo Před 3 měsíci +1

    The greatest composer

  • @dielotosblume1205
    @dielotosblume1205 Před 2 lety +2

    One of the best interpretations I've ever heard

  • @susanl2502
    @susanl2502 Před 5 lety +40

    This is the version Prof. Robert Greenberg selected for his audio course on How to Listen to and Understand Great Music. Impossible to listen to another after this.

    • @adelasussman3838
      @adelasussman3838 Před 4 lety +1

      Wonderful interpretation!! I've listened more than once during this terrible COVID-19 time!!

    • @philipmcniel4908
      @philipmcniel4908 Před 4 měsíci

      As a piano teacher, I'm working on a similar type of course on more of a children's level. I'd like a second opinion on this: What do you think about the merits of including this version (or this higher-quality posting of it: czcams.com/video/5X8PmVNY1dw/video.html&ab_channel=Element18) vs. the version that was recorded by the Hanover Band here: czcams.com/video/BoJOR2MgjfQ/video.html

  • @danskwino
    @danskwino Před 4 lety +5

    This version, at it’s 108 tempo, is like contemporary Rock Music, in that it makes me want to trash a violin after the performance and shout “Yeah!” to the high heavens!!!

  • @michaels7889
    @michaels7889 Před rokem +2

    Pity about the upload sound track but ... wow! And that contrabass section ...! Like the 3rd symphony recording currently on CZcams intellect, scholarship and enthusiasm lay the music bare. And Sir John's gestures leave no doubt whatsoever about his intentions.

  • @Mxphc330
    @Mxphc330 Před 3 lety +8

    Somehow, I love this version the most among all, even better than Kleiber's.

  • @pizzademuzzarella4390
    @pizzademuzzarella4390 Před 6 lety +4

    Wooooow qué brutalll sir Gardiner. Gratamente sorprendido me encuentro, me encanta como transmite todo ese dramatismo y fuerza.

  • @Eugene_naropojiev
    @Eugene_naropojiev Před 8 měsíci +1

    The best interpretation I have ever heard and ever seen! Thank you for joy you shared!

  • @user-ep6fp4qm7i
    @user-ep6fp4qm7i Před 5 měsíci +1

    Look Look!
    Sir Beethoven
    Is now happy !!!!

  • @jabezvanwyk6485
    @jabezvanwyk6485 Před 6 lety +5

    Wow!! Absolutely refreshing! Great performance Sir Gardiner

  • @krispiper3104
    @krispiper3104 Před rokem +1

    On instruments and tempos of the period. Ahhhh. So sweet!!! Newer is not always better.

  • @yhe2501
    @yhe2501 Před 3 lety +2

    Wow, this is THE Beethoven. I visited here from HJ Lim.

  • @hifibrony
    @hifibrony Před 5 lety +4

    Electrifying! Magnificently played and recorded!

  • @rogerhubley5192
    @rogerhubley5192 Před 4 lety +5

    Marvellous performance. I have been listening to this symphony for 60 years now and it is one of the best. I need to listen to it again - once I grab another beer.

  • @kermitefrog64
    @kermitefrog64 Před 4 lety +4

    The Conductor John Eliot Gardiner also has a video on the 5th Symphony that gives a complete different interpretation of Beethoven's Symphony. Many of the passages are reflective of his support for the French Revolution as he weaves various musical interludes from well known songs of the Revolution. The notes that Beethoven used as a means to gather his thoughts and improvising even expressing in his notes the three main principles of the Revolution;
    1. Liberty : Liberty from oppression which was one of three main principles of French Revolution.
    2. Equality : Political, social and economic equality. 3. Fraternity : Brotherhood among people.

  • @peterbockholm3176
    @peterbockholm3176 Před 5 lety +22

    108 bpm as Beethoven composed it, i've been told that there is a version where the conductor is down to 74. This orchestra also use many instruments from the period, the horns for example. The violins have strings of the same type used at the time.

    • @katydid2k
      @katydid2k Před 4 lety +4

      I am spoiled for life after hearing this one - omg.

  • @armaanchadhafilms
    @armaanchadhafilms Před 5 lety +5

    Great Performance! Finale starts at 22:49

  • @Muzikay
    @Muzikay Před 5 lety +7

    Simply electrifying.

  • @buskman3286
    @buskman3286 Před 8 měsíci +1

    For me this performance/orchestra captures the excitement inherent in the symphony. It may be due to the clarity of non-vibrato violins and the slightly raucous nature of the natural horns but it is by far the best, most exciting performance of the 5th I have ever heard.

  • @matthewschatkowski4887
    @matthewschatkowski4887 Před 5 lety +4

    BRAVO! Absolutely AMAZING!

  • @pedromoyaguzman7517
    @pedromoyaguzman7517 Před 5 lety +4

    Love the energy of this interpretation 😍

  • @Schleiermacher1000
    @Schleiermacher1000 Před 3 lety +3

    Original instruments are simply wonderful, whether in Bach or Beethoven

  • @ripjackson65
    @ripjackson65 Před 4 lety +4

    Oh my heavens - how amazing!!!!

  • @robynsalain
    @robynsalain Před 5 lety +1

    Beethoven revisité,haute admiration,hors normes

  • @alexanderdelacruz9249
    @alexanderdelacruz9249 Před 4 lety +3

    Wow , this one sounds so different...... so fresh , dynamic 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @francoismagne5863
    @francoismagne5863 Před 4 lety +7

    Mesmerizing. Finally the real Beethoven.

  • @amarildonascimento_trompetista

    Such a great energy!
    Love this interpretation!

  • @alainlechardoy4921
    @alainlechardoy4921 Před 2 lety +1

    Magnifique, grandiose !

  • @cl8594
    @cl8594 Před 4 lety +4

    I am a big fan of JEG and ORR. I thought I'd never get into the Schumann Symphonies until I heard their recording.

  • @BryanHalo123
    @BryanHalo123 Před 2 lety +1

    When I saw how small the violin section was I expected another boring little Beethoven 5th. But they played big. Surprisingly good.

  • @nelsondias8346
    @nelsondias8346 Před 5 lety +2

    Para mim é uma das mais extraordinárias interpretações da 5ª. sinfonia. Imagino que Beethoven a escreveu para ser tocada desta forma. É um momento de emoção e que nos leva quase ao delírio. Grande orquestra, grande Sir Eliot Gardiner.

  • @rogerchavez2531
    @rogerchavez2531 Před rokem +1

    This is why the fifth is so iconic. U think people remembered the slow ass droning shit played today. They remembered this!

  • @mrJohnDesiderio
    @mrJohnDesiderio Před 5 lety +1

    Energy is superb. Gardener is wonderful

  • @erikg.2666
    @erikg.2666 Před 2 lety +5

    This is probably how Beethoven intended this symphony to be played! I don't think it was intended to be a snooze fest as some conductors interpret it.

  • @MCYUTELAT
    @MCYUTELAT Před 4 lety +5

    Woah! Best Beethoven I ever watched. John Eliot is the man. Beethoven's never been so alive and angry! Bravo!

  • @carpediem6734
    @carpediem6734 Před 3 lety +3

    이 연주가 베토벤 당시 원래 템포였다니... 이제껏 듣던것과 완전 다른 감동!!!!

  • @MikeJones__Who
    @MikeJones__Who Před 4 lety +8

    I know there is great debate on tempo for Beethoven's compositions...but just reading on the personality of the man I truly believe this is how he envisioned this song. Very powerful, forceful constantly in your face in a way. Just pulling you out of your comfort zone and throwing you around.
    Such a beautiful performance!!

    • @vsevsad9376
      @vsevsad9376  Před 4 lety +3

      There's a documentary to go with this performance where Gardiner explains the tempo (not his first one,btw) : czcams.com/video/Y9iMCXCbO7c/video.html The sound is awful. I used to have a normal version on my channel, but it was put down by CZcams

    • @tancreddehauteville764
      @tancreddehauteville764 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, Beethoven was the rock star of his day and this proves it.

  • @alainrobynsds5735
    @alainrobynsds5735 Před 5 lety +4

    grandeur et gloire cet orchestre est survolté,haute admiration, la plus belle 5ème jamais entendue avec un grand bravo aux ingénieurs de la prise du son

    • @antoinekaelin
      @antoinekaelin Před 5 lety +1

      alain robynsds c’est bien vrai ça Alain

    • @gautierbillante6152
      @gautierbillante6152 Před 5 lety

      Enfin quelqun qui y comprends quelque chose à la musique ! Les jeunes de nos jours de savent pas apprécier la bonne musique.

    • @antoinekaelin
      @antoinekaelin Před 5 lety +2

      gautierbe gautierbe Vous avez raison Gautier. Notre ami Alain sait s’y prendre en therme de bonne musique ! Vive Beethoven !

    • @gautierbillante6152
      @gautierbillante6152 Před 5 lety +1

      @@antoinekaelin Nous sommes décidément tous sur la même longueur d'onde mon cher Antoine !
      L'œuvre et la volupté de Beethoven sont incomparables !

    • @antoinekaelin
      @antoinekaelin Před 5 lety

      gautierbe gautierbe c’est ce que me disait Yvonne l’autre jour! Haha quelle garce celle la

  • @fifty9forty3
    @fifty9forty3 Před rokem +1

    Magnificent performance, Masterfully done!

  • @CaradhrasAiguo49
    @CaradhrasAiguo49 Před 3 lety +10

    22:46 Having the trombone trio stand right before playing their C's to blast open the finale is a _stunning_ visual!
    Yes, they only appear in the finale, but asking them to stand while playing = No camera-work required to focus on them when they do arrive

  • @jeffbalfoort3829
    @jeffbalfoort3829 Před 4 lety +7

    Never heard it like this before. Incredible. Talk about shock and awe! what power!

  • @xaixanac
    @xaixanac Před 7 lety +10

    It was Beethoven who introduced Hard Rock to Classical Music, obviously something unacceptable to the Lovers and Performers of said Classical Music needing to be suppressed, until Elio Gardiner breaks the ice to delight us with its originality, and yes, raw brutality, dissonance to the gentle ear. Superb.

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild Před 6 lety +3

      Vincent fischer-zernin you really think so? I find quite a lot of Vivaldi’s work and most certainly JS Bach’s to be at least as rocking/aggressive. It all comes down to difference in ears, so not saying you’re wrong, it’s just I’ve heard sentiment similar to yours so many times and can’t figure out for the life of me where it comes from. Help me out! What am I missing? Peace ✌🏽

    • @complexhobbyist2999
      @complexhobbyist2999 Před 5 lety +1

      @@AnHebrewChild Corelli even.

    • @cziffra-eg9st
      @cziffra-eg9st Před 3 lety

      Bruckner? Prokofiev? and not to mention many baroque composers like Vivaldi and Handel.

  • @buskman3286
    @buskman3286 Před 8 měsíci

    The best performance of the 5th I have ever heard!