When Beethoven was performing his masterpieces,men were weeping and women were fainting...nobody can add more to that, a higher plateau does not exist.
8:30 GLORIA 9:20 Et in terra pax 11:01 Gratias agimus tibi 13:09 Qui tollis peccata mundi 15:35 Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris 18:16 in Gloria Dei Patris 24:20 Credo: Iesum Christum 27:50 Et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine 41:43 SANCTUS 44:07 Pleni sunt coeli et terra gloria tua 44:41 Hosanna in excelsis 45:15 intermezzo contemplativo 46:56 BENEDICTUS qui venit in nomine Domini 55:20 violin and choir: Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini: 56:46 Hosanna in excelsis
This musical extraordinary and amazing work, unique and superb, unequaled those, on the same theme composed by Mozart, Bach, etc. The sonority, sensitivity that it transmits and the religious depth are of completely different natures. Above all, the austerity of musical development. It is a masterpiece composed by one of greatest musicians that ever existed. The choir and orchestra are amazing. Viva Beethoven and his divine and glorious music.
SR. JOSÉ LOPES, NÃP COMETA ESSE GRAVE ERRO DE COMPARAR ESTA MISSA DE BEETHOVEN COM AS OBRAS VERDADEIRAMENTE AUTÊNTICAS E SACRAS DE BACH E DE MOZART, QUE SÃO DOIS DOS MAIORES COMPOSITORES DE MÚSICA DESSE ELEVADO GÊNERO MUSICAL.
@@user-xt9su1jr1uPara que escreve em maiúsculas? Quer-nos impor a sua opinião? E para que usa uma identidade tão rebuscada? Para confundir? Ninguém tira a Bach e Mozart os méritos que detêm, mas Beethoven é também de uma grandeza ímpar e, para muitos de nós, traduz melhor a circunstância de cada um face a Deus. É que essa relação com Deus não é apenas de igreja católica ou luterana, é sobretudo uma relação pessoal.
LOS SOLISTAS SON TAN ARMONIOSOS, MUSICALES E INTEGRADOS ENTRE SI QUE IMPRESIONAN. Orgonasova es casi Insuperable, en una tesitura extremadamente expuesta, llega con una entereza a todos los matices que te deja sin palabras. Robbin es otro tanto conmovedora por color, matices y emisión armoniosa. Johnson tiene esa redondez vocal justa y color expresivo que llena todo. Miles presenta los matices necesarios en toda la extensión de la voz, fuerte cuando se necesita y dulce también. Y los cuatro, Orgonasova, Robbin, Johnson y Miles dicen como pocos el texto en una misma dirección. Cada uno con su distintiva voz aporta la belleza suprema . Braviiiiiiiiiiiii.
Love the emotive conducting of, not at the time, but now Sir John Eliot Gardiner, and how the orchestra and choir connect to his baton and hand. It is complete and utter fusion of purpose, artistry at its height. Kudos Maestro and artists!
Gracias por subir esta hermosa y monumental cantata católica (misa solemne) de Beethoven por CZcams, le quedo perfecto... Espero que CZcams no lo bloquee o elimine, ya han pasado muchos de sus colegas, así lo estoy guardando...
Comprehension of music of this stature is not about the brain; it is about the elevation of the human spirit to a plane beyond cranial function. One can only pity the poor soul who does not feel this. I am moved to tears listening to this numerous times.
This is such a good performance, really special. And to think I can listen to it whenever I want for no money, while in high school I had to save up my scarce dollars to buy CDs!
with this conductor orchestra and choir they make a truly solemn man who makes you rise as if you were in another world very good music to enjoy and relax thanks for being able to listen to these works online
An excellent rendering by NordDeutscheRadioOrchestra, Monteverdi Choir and John Eliot Gardiner of this superb work. Being opus 123 near opus 125, the Missa was published very close to the 9th symphony. Ludwig was at he summit of his musical prowess. I am not sure if he was religious, but who cares? Thanks for making available this 1994 performance. The Benedictus is magical.
I think Beethoven was not a very religious man like, for instance, Anton Bruckner was. I was singing in a choir for many years and I had the honour to take part in a performance of the Missa Solemnis. What a challenge! It took many rehearsals and a lot of time to get familiar with this opus magnus, which is indeed not easy to comprehend. Eventually I was captured by this piece of music like no music ever did before. I understood, that Missa Solemnis is way beyond religious music. It's Beethoven's greatest legacy and he knew.
Beethoven was raised a Catholic but he seldom attended mass as an adult and although his letters indicate a belief in God it is unclear whether he was a practicing Catholic. He did receive the last rites from a priest when he was on his deathbed and he received Catholic burial and mass.
@@syourke3 The whole period from Bach and Handel through Beethoven to Schubert and the early Romantics spans the Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, the American and French Revolutions, the Napoleonic Wars, to the Congress of Vienna in 1815. Exciting and inspiring times, challenging authority both secular and religious, and B. was certainly a rebel. He was most likely a Deist, believing in a "god of nature" - Schillers Ode invokes "Goetter" in the plural and Elysium, only at the end invoking a vague Creator. Is it a coincidence that Beethoven's late period begins after the Congress, with the revolutionary fires quenched, turning inward in his deafness?
La capacidad de asombro ante la música de Beethoven nunca decrece sino que aumenta más y más hacia la gloria suprema. Excelente diercción, sir Elliot, siempre comedido y cada matiz en su punto exacto, creo que como lo hubiese hecho el genio bonense.
Marvellous version, perhaps one of the best. The wonderful voices of the choir and the soloist, to become of a superb and genius choir master. Solomon, Messiah, Jephtha, Alexander's feast, Mass in B minor, German Requiem, Vespers of the blessed virgin (1610), St. Mathew passion... FANTASTIC, ¡Sir John Eliot Gardiner, for ever and ever!
I love all the comments here because they show that there are people who realize the profundity of this music (and not because it’s nominally a Catholic or religious piece). Please listen to Beethoven’s Mass in C Major as well if you haven’t. It should not be overlooked. (Should any of his music be???)
Vaya tempis... Realmente imagino que es la idea de Beethoven. La soprano en la fuga del gloria casi casi, pierde las notas... Una magnífica presentación. Digna de examen de graduación de conservatorio.
La Messe solennelle en ré majeur ou Missa solemnis, opus 123, de Ludwig van Beethoven, fut composée entre 1818 et 18231, publiée en avril 18271 et dédiée à son élève l'archiduc Rodolphe1. Pièce majeure du répertoire sacré en bonne place aux côtés de la Messe en si mineur de Bach et du Requiem de Mozart, elle est l'œuvre la plus longue de Beethoven après son opéra Fidelio et assurément celle qui lui a réclamé le plus de travail. Il s'agit de sa troisième œuvre vocale à caractère sacré, après l'oratorio Le Christ au Mont des Oliviers (1801) et la Messe en ut majeur (1807). La Missa solemnis était considérée par Beethoven comme « sa meilleure œuvre, son plus grand ouvrage »2.
I adore, adore Missa Solemnis and have numerous recordings. This is the fastest recording I have heard. I'm quite sure the tempi caused some syllables to get "swallowed up." The violin solo in the Benedictus is too recessed.
This mass is dedicated to God. This is to tell God that he has forhiven him for the great injustice by an unwarranted deafness that so degraded him in life. I speak for Beethoven.
You're brilliant, I have watched many of your videos. When I read your comment I thought"don't be like that". Any ensemble is made of human beings who are at times imperfect. You wouldn't want people to be critical of you, if that happened to you
Why on earth would you want to drag in a matter like this in the midst of such heavenly music? Do you know for certain that it was the RAF? In which case, it's British, not English.
Very accurate, full of Beethovenian energy but...far too fast. And not nearly enough ritardando. There seems to be a need to "get it over with" that mars so many British performances. Almost as if they were afraid of expressing any emotion.
La Messe solennelle en ré majeur ou Missa solemnis, opus 123, de Ludwig van Beethoven, fut composée entre 1818 et 1821, publiée en avril 1827 et dédiée à son élève l'archiduc Rodolphe. Pièce majeure du répertoire sacré en bonne place aux côtés de la Messe en si mineur de Bach et du Requiem de Mozart, elle est l'œuvre la plus longue de Beethoven après son opéra Fidelio et assurément celle qui lui a réclamé le plus de travail. Il s'agit de sa troisième œuvre vocale à caractère sacré, après l'oratorio Le Christ au Mont des Oliviers (1801) et la Messe en ut majeur (1807). La Missa solemnis était considérée par Beethoven comme « sa meilleure œuvre, son plus grand ouvrage » Source : "Wikipedia"
1 - 00:00 Kyrie
2 - 08:25 Gloria
3 - 24:15 Credo
4 - 41:40 Sanctus
5 - 56:40 Agnus Dei
When Beethoven was performing his masterpieces,men were weeping and women were fainting...nobody can add more to that, a higher plateau does not exist.
I suggest: b minor mass by Bach
@@andyxyz01 Totally agree!
Magnificient! :´-)
1 - 00:00 Kyrie
2 - 08:25 Gloria
3 - 24:15 Credo
4 - 41:40 Sanctus
5 - 56:40 Agnus Dei
Thanks. Most helpful.
8:30 GLORIA
9:20 Et in terra pax
11:01 Gratias agimus tibi
13:09 Qui tollis peccata mundi
15:35 Qui sedes ad dexteram Patris
18:16 in Gloria Dei Patris
24:20 Credo: Iesum Christum
27:50 Et incarnatus est de Spiritu Sancto ex Maria Virgine
41:43 SANCTUS
44:07 Pleni sunt coeli et terra gloria tua
44:41 Hosanna in excelsis
45:15 intermezzo contemplativo
46:56 BENEDICTUS qui venit in nomine Domini
55:20 violin and choir: Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini:
56:46 Hosanna in excelsis
This musical extraordinary and amazing work, unique and superb, unequaled those, on the same theme composed by Mozart, Bach, etc. The sonority, sensitivity that it transmits and the religious depth are of completely different natures. Above all, the austerity of musical development. It is a masterpiece composed by one of greatest musicians that ever existed. The choir and orchestra are amazing. Viva Beethoven and his divine and glorious music.
SR. JOSÉ LOPES, NÃP COMETA ESSE GRAVE ERRO DE COMPARAR ESTA MISSA DE BEETHOVEN COM AS OBRAS VERDADEIRAMENTE AUTÊNTICAS E SACRAS DE BACH E DE MOZART, QUE SÃO DOIS DOS MAIORES COMPOSITORES DE MÚSICA DESSE ELEVADO GÊNERO MUSICAL.
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The opinion is obviously personal!!!
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Obviously the opinions are personals!!!!!
Regards
Lopes
Yes indeed,and...praise God.
@@user-xt9su1jr1uPara que escreve em maiúsculas? Quer-nos impor a sua opinião? E para que usa uma identidade tão rebuscada? Para confundir? Ninguém tira a Bach e Mozart os méritos que detêm, mas Beethoven é também de uma grandeza ímpar e, para muitos de nós, traduz melhor a circunstância de cada um face a Deus. É que essa relação com Deus não é apenas de igreja católica ou luterana, é sobretudo uma relação pessoal.
LOS SOLISTAS SON TAN ARMONIOSOS, MUSICALES E INTEGRADOS ENTRE SI QUE IMPRESIONAN.
Orgonasova es casi Insuperable, en una tesitura extremadamente expuesta, llega con una entereza a todos los matices que te deja sin palabras.
Robbin es otro tanto conmovedora por color, matices y emisión armoniosa.
Johnson tiene esa redondez vocal justa y color expresivo que llena todo.
Miles presenta los matices necesarios en toda la extensión de la voz, fuerte cuando se necesita y dulce también.
Y los cuatro, Orgonasova, Robbin, Johnson y Miles dicen como pocos el texto en una misma dirección. Cada uno con su distintiva voz aporta la belleza suprema . Braviiiiiiiiiiiii.
The soloists have amazing voices. Congratulations for the high recording level and for the moments of enormous pleasure it gave us.
there is a profound beauty in this which is difficult to define, but so easy to enjoy
Love the emotive conducting of, not at the time, but now Sir John Eliot Gardiner, and how the orchestra and choir connect to his baton and hand. It is complete and utter fusion of purpose, artistry at its height. Kudos Maestro and artists!
Excelent, the Best. Thanks for the video. Glory to God in the Highest!
ET in Terra pax hominibus bone voluntatis!
The best version ever. The rhythm is perfect all the way, but especially in the Agnus Dei. It is gorgeous. Thank you all.
some ragged entries at the beginning.
@@gspaulsson Like every single entry at 37:52 is messed up lol
In the solo section of the Gloria fugue as well
There are many outstanding recordings of this masterpiece.
NÃO SEJA DESINFORMADO E EXAGERADO, SR CRIBEDADA. ESTA OBRA NÃO É MÚSICA SACRA, NEM AQUI, VIENA OU NA CHINA OU NA PRÓPRIA ITÁLIA.
There are no words to express an himmalayen summit.
Direct to heart, as so generously wished by Beethoven. Ever thanks Master !!
Gracias por subir esta hermosa y monumental cantata católica (misa solemne) de Beethoven por CZcams, le quedo perfecto... Espero que CZcams no lo bloquee o elimine, ya han pasado muchos de sus colegas, así lo estoy guardando...
Con questa potente pagina di Beethoven, Gardiner riesce a far emergere la stessa forza che il compositore ha impresso. Stupendi tutti!!!
How anybody with a brain could think to downvote such music is baffling to me.
i think the answer is found in your question.
True. Great performance. I always thought the Gloria was the wildest roller-coaster ride in all of Western music.
Comprehension of music of this stature is not about the brain; it is about the elevation of the human spirit to a plane beyond cranial function. One can only pity the poor soul who does not feel this. I am moved to tears listening to this numerous times.
@@davidberger9058 me too 😢 but because it's overwhelmingly beautiful! I get goosebumps too.
This is 100% magnificent stuff... I think the director/editor missed a lot of the punchlines with his shot selection however
Erhebende Aufführung, die dem großen BEETHOVEN gerecht wird.
Dank an Sir Gardiner und alle Mitwirkenden!!
Les deux messes de Beethoven sont sublimes
WONDERFULL, WONDERFULLL, WONDERFULLLLL....¡¡¡WHAT A CHORUS MY GOD!!. WONDERFULL AGAIN. ¡¡FOREVER!!
MANY THANKS MR LUDWING
BENEDICTUS QUI VENIT IN NOMINE DOMINE!
This is such a good performance, really special. And to think I can listen to it whenever I want for no money, while in high school I had to save up my scarce dollars to buy CDs!
with this conductor orchestra and choir they make a truly solemn man who makes you rise as if you were in another world very good music to enjoy and relax thanks for being able to listen to these works online
An excellent rendering by NordDeutscheRadioOrchestra, Monteverdi Choir and John Eliot Gardiner of this superb work. Being opus 123 near opus 125, the Missa was published very close to the 9th symphony. Ludwig was at he summit of his musical prowess. I am not sure if he was religious, but who cares? Thanks for making available this 1994 performance. The Benedictus is magical.
I think Beethoven was not a very religious man like, for instance, Anton Bruckner was. I was singing in a choir for many years and I had the honour to take part in a performance of the Missa Solemnis. What a challenge! It took many rehearsals and a lot of time to get familiar with this opus magnus, which is indeed not easy to comprehend. Eventually I was captured by this piece of music like no music ever did before. I understood, that Missa Solemnis is way beyond religious music. It's Beethoven's greatest legacy and he knew.
Beethoven was raised a Catholic but he seldom attended mass as an adult and although his letters indicate a belief in God it is unclear whether he was a practicing Catholic. He did receive the last rites from a priest when he was on his deathbed and he received Catholic burial and mass.
@@syourke3 The whole period from Bach and Handel through Beethoven to Schubert and the early Romantics spans the Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, the American and French Revolutions, the Napoleonic Wars, to the Congress of Vienna in 1815. Exciting and inspiring times, challenging authority both secular and religious, and B. was certainly a rebel. He was most likely a Deist, believing in a "god of nature" - Schillers Ode invokes "Goetter" in the plural and Elysium, only at the end invoking a vague Creator. Is it a coincidence that Beethoven's late period begins after the Congress, with the revolutionary fires quenched, turning inward in his deafness?
La capacidad de asombro ante la música de Beethoven nunca decrece sino que aumenta más y más hacia la gloria suprema. Excelente diercción, sir Elliot, siempre comedido y cada matiz en su punto exacto, creo que como lo hubiese hecho el genio bonense.
Marvellous version, perhaps one of the best. The wonderful voices of the choir and the soloist, to become of a superb and genius choir master.
Solomon, Messiah, Jephtha, Alexander's feast, Mass in B minor, German Requiem, Vespers of the blessed virgin (1610), St. Mathew passion...
FANTASTIC, ¡Sir John Eliot Gardiner, for ever and ever!
... Mozart C minor mass and Requiem ...
@@gspaulsson👍👍👍
Just Magnificient.....
Just a stunning performance! Bravo.
I love all the comments here because they show that there are people who realize the profundity of this music (and not because it’s nominally a Catholic or religious piece). Please listen to Beethoven’s Mass in C Major as well if you haven’t. It should not be overlooked. (Should any of his music be???)
oeuvre merveilleuse par un compositeur génial et une interprétation de très grande qualité
Excellent as allways !
Maestro Gardiner is conducting Beethoven like the Bach, thats is brilliant!!!
This is just lovely.
가드느경의 지휘적인 액션을 눈여겨 보는 것이 이 동영상의 재미… 미사곡을 박력있게 지휘하는 영국팀의 저력… 내가 좋아하는 007만큼이나 멋진…
Agnus Dei....fantastic bass singer !
brings a tear to my eye
Grandiosa interpretación.
Wunderschön,,,,
Vaya tempis... Realmente imagino que es la idea de Beethoven. La soprano en la fuga del gloria casi casi, pierde las notas... Una magnífica presentación. Digna de examen de graduación de conservatorio.
Woooooouuu👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
La Messe solennelle en ré majeur ou Missa solemnis, opus 123, de Ludwig van Beethoven, fut composée entre 1818 et 18231, publiée en avril 18271 et dédiée à son élève l'archiduc Rodolphe1. Pièce majeure du répertoire sacré en bonne place aux côtés de la Messe en si mineur de Bach et du Requiem de Mozart, elle est l'œuvre la plus longue de Beethoven après son opéra Fidelio et assurément celle qui lui a réclamé le plus de travail. Il s'agit de sa troisième œuvre vocale à caractère sacré, après l'oratorio Le Christ au Mont des Oliviers (1801) et la Messe en ut majeur (1807).
La Missa solemnis était considérée par Beethoven comme « sa meilleure œuvre, son plus grand ouvrage »2.
Excellent, the greatest performance
Fabulous!
Saw this outfit at a late night Proms in the 2010s. Magnificent. I got Beethovened into the bargain.
Glorificamus te...
❤️ So beautiful!
Yes!!!
Wow, was this the best MS I've heard?
Sublime.
I adore, adore Missa Solemnis and have numerous recordings. This is the fastest recording I have heard. I'm quite sure the tempi caused some syllables to get "swallowed up." The violin solo in the Benedictus is too recessed.
Gardiner is the best there is.
This mass is dedicated to God. This is to tell God that he has forhiven him for the great injustice by an unwarranted deafness that so degraded him in life.
I speak for Beethoven.
Never in his mind. You got it wrong, pal.
'What? Who? Me? Nothing to do with me, chum. It's somebody else you want.' I speak for God.
@@strutherhill Sorry, God. Beethoven already spoke for you 200 years ago. You're an impostor.
Actually, it is dedicated to Archduke Rudolf
Dankeschön!
Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini!
Dette låt veldig bra :)
Thank you! 👏🏻🙏💐😇
Formidável
this version is not slow like most other versions.
19:21 Gloria's Fugue
Luba Orgonasova 44:07
She ísť from Slovakia.🙂
This is not "Lübeck Cathedral", but St. Mary's Church, Lübeck
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Church,_L%C3%BCbeck
Can you tell me the best movement in this work😊
I believe it was this disc & the German Requiem one that really 'pushed' Gardiner to the very top of the HIP movement.
Ein guter dirigent orchester chor solisten
This is not the Lübecker Dom--the Cathedral of Lübeck--but rather the Marienkirche in Lübeck.
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54:36 clutch save
Premiered #otd in 1824 💐💐💐
38:00
54:34 Haha
❤️🙌🏼🌹
🇹🇷😍🤗
44:06 Orgonasova!
I cracked up when I heard the last note of the Kyrie... poor horn player...
You're brilliant, I have watched many of your videos. When I read your comment I thought"don't be like that". Any ensemble is made of human beings who are at times imperfect. You wouldn't want people to be critical of you, if that happened to you
Knowing Gardiner's reputation, it is surprising that his look to the horn player didn't immediately cause him to shrink into the earth.
19:23 Good to see Brad Pitt involve himself in some real culture, not these Hollywood knock-offs.
I miss Johnson, the tenor.
Why are there 720p and 1080p options for this 480p simple definition, highly compressed, video?
fred the weatherman strikes again lol
Where is that place?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_Church,_L%C3%BCbeck#/map/0
why is Klaus Kinkel conducting?
It's Bill Moyers.
0:12
🤲
Ce sont les bombes anglaises qui ont détruit cette église...
Why on earth would you want to drag in a matter like this in the midst of such heavenly music? Do you know for certain that it was the RAF? In which case, it's British, not English.
Esecuzione 'da corsa'... MAH!!!
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Very accurate, full of Beethovenian energy but...far too fast. And not nearly enough ritardando. There seems to be a need to "get it over with" that mars so many British performances. Almost as if they were afraid of expressing any emotion.
the strings are lost in this acoustic
il ne l'a pas ! Virtuose oui, mais la musique n'est pas la,,, le message, Voir Harnoncourt ,, lui il a
Tempi too fast and should always be sung with German Latin
Life seems to be pretty grim for you.
It's a religious piece and German Latin is therefore not necessary. I was raised in chorus to use this Latin.
37:52 Et vitam venturi fuga
La Messe solennelle en ré majeur ou Missa solemnis, opus 123, de Ludwig van Beethoven, fut composée entre 1818 et 1821, publiée en avril 1827 et dédiée à son élève l'archiduc Rodolphe. Pièce majeure du répertoire sacré en bonne place aux côtés de la Messe en si mineur de Bach et du Requiem de Mozart, elle est l'œuvre la plus longue de Beethoven après son opéra Fidelio et assurément celle qui lui a réclamé le plus de travail. Il s'agit de sa troisième œuvre vocale à caractère sacré, après l'oratorio Le Christ au Mont des Oliviers (1801) et la Messe en ut majeur (1807).
La Missa solemnis était considérée par Beethoven comme « sa meilleure œuvre, son plus grand ouvrage » Source : "Wikipedia"