GARDENS OF THE MOON by Steven Erikson - No Spoiler Review (Malazan Book of the Fallen 1)

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  • GARDENS OF THE MOON by Steven Erikson - No Spoiler Review (Malazan Book of the Fallen 1)
    #booktube #malazan #fantasy
    Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson begins my epic journey into the 10 book series Malazan Book of the Fallen. This is a no spoiler review for Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson. Gardens of the Moon has absolutely captivated my attention and brings a whole new level of interest to Malazan Book of the Fallen for me. Malazan and Gardens of the Moon have caught me by storm and I'll be making my way through the entire series now!
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  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929 Před rokem +8

    Frankly this review starts at 2:05

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před rokem +3

      Appreciate the time stamp haha

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 Před rokem +3

      @@thefantasynuttwork I honestly thought about it after I did this and worried I was being rude and accidentally suggesting you were wasting time (which, I don’t think that, to be clear, but sometimes you wanna get to the meat of it! Haha) but I’m glad this was appropriate :-)

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před rokem +2

      @@billyalarie929 oh no problem at all, sometimes I go off on tangents hahah. It's appreciated

  • @ManCarryingThing
    @ManCarryingThing Před 2 lety +14

    saw the thumbnail and clicked faster than ever. so happy you're reading this!

  • @PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy

    I’m glad you liked the quesadillas! It was fantastic to hear your thoughts. Anomander Rake is indeed a cool name, and I really enjoyed your thoughts on the characters. The connections really grew for me in the next couple books - I needed tissues for both Deadhouse Gates and Memories of Ice. One little (hopefully helpful) point is that Pale is actually in Genabackis - it’s north of Darujhistan. The world definitely opens up in the succeeding books. Excellent video! It would be a huge honor and pleasure for me to chat with you anytime on things Malazan, my friend. Cheers!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +3

      We will definitely be chatting soon friend! Damn I actually thought Pale was further away, I knew I'd get something wrong with this review hahaha.
      I see A LOT of potential for these characters and their ties together as the story grows on scope..this is going to be excellent!

  • @lilyloves768
    @lilyloves768 Před 2 lety +19

    People think that Erikson can't write characters??? Wow 😐 This is my favorite series of all time. Hope you enjoy the journey.

  • @thefantasynuttwork
    @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +47

    Kruppe likes this video and so should you.

    • @EricMcLuen
      @EricMcLuen Před 2 lety +5

      Another member of team Kruppe.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      @@EricMcLuen how does one pronounce this name btw lol

    • @EricMcLuen
      @EricMcLuen Před 2 lety +2

      @@thefantasynuttwork I will always say it like croup, but is apparently kru-puh.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +3

      @@EricMcLuen I kind of like making it sound pretentious and saying Croop-aye

    • @jenniferobin7260
      @jenniferobin7260 Před 2 lety +2

      I 🥰 Kruppe!

  • @ACriticalDragon
    @ACriticalDragon Před 2 lety +27

    Fantastic. The dinner scene is one of my favourites from the book. I am really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the rest of the series as you progress.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      I've heard you are also a big fan of the dinner scene! I'd love to chat Malazan and fantasy with you sometime 🤘

  • @pranavprabhu8609
    @pranavprabhu8609 Před 2 lety +15

    Magnanimous Kruppe approves of this video.

  • @thatsci-firogue
    @thatsci-firogue Před dnem

    It's amazing just how much is just *there* on a re-read. Erikson truly is one of the goats of Modern Fantasy.

  • @jakebishop7822
    @jakebishop7822 Před 2 lety +12

    It's worth noting that I basically didn't read any glossary stuff while reading this book, or series and while i'm sure it lead to me missing things, I do not think checking the glossary is 100% necessary, for people who are willing to live with not understanding some stuff.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah fair, but you're like an AI compared to me so my dumb brain needs it hahaha

    • @jakebishop7822
      @jakebishop7822 Před 2 lety +3

      @@thefantasynuttwork If there is one thing Malazan has proven, it is that my brain is not an AI

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      @@jakebishop7822 compared to mine** lol

    • @jenniferobin7260
      @jenniferobin7260 Před 2 lety

      I did the same Jake and I think that future rereads will be very enjoyable and interesting because of it.

    • @Catablepon01
      @Catablepon01 Před 2 lety

      Have to admit that it was only after book 5 that I realized that the glossary even existed

  • @BaldBookTuber
    @BaldBookTuber Před 2 lety +9

    Kruppe rules, and I appreciate you properly acknowledging it.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I loved his parts and especially the reveal at the end. So much subtle foreshadowing for it and Kruppe was just hilarious as well

  • @TheBookCure
    @TheBookCure Před 2 lety +7

    So glad to hear that you enjoyed this one, Jimmy. I think we look for a lot of the same things from our fantasy novels, so this gives me hope for my own experience with the series!

  • @coleton7048
    @coleton7048 Před 2 lety +12

    Between this video and the discussion Johanna had on her channel with Books With Brittany and The Reading Witch, I'm no longer intimidated by this book and just looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about.

  • @BooksWithBenghisKahn
    @BooksWithBenghisKahn Před 2 lety +3

    Tremendous review! It was so cool to see your take on book 1-you’re in for such a treat with the next few books you have no idea!
    Erikson as a poor character writer is hooey, but no doubt some of his best character work I think is done within single books rather than across them. Can’t wait to see more of your Malazan vids and an eventual chat with AP Canavan!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much! Had a lot of fun doing this one and am excited to make more videos and chat with some new friends about the series

  • @benjaminmolina3456
    @benjaminmolina3456 Před 2 lety +4

    Anomander Rake is awesome! His sword is badass. Frankly, I loved how Malazan challenges the reader in a respectful way. In the dinner I was waiting for that confrontation. Erikson`s prose is just amazing.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm very much enjoying the trust Erikson has given me to figure things out

  • @patsmythos
    @patsmythos Před 2 lety +1

    It was great hearing your thoughts -- your take on the confusion factor was great. I feel better knowing there are resources to help you through. Makes me confident I could give Malazan an honest try one day!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      You definitely could, there's also some first law feeling to whiskey jacks crew IMO. the humor and such. Always here to answer any questions when you get around to reading it

  • @maddy0119
    @maddy0119 Před 2 lety +5

    Excited to get this series sometime soon! This review and Riddhima's have really convinced me that this series is oversold on how hard it is to get into. Hoping I'll be able to jump on the hype train.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm glad you're thinking of jumping in..Ridd and I can always answer questions and such as you go too 😎

  • @brettwaddingham3296
    @brettwaddingham3296 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm only a third through this video so far and you're saying all the things I like about fantasy, Jimmy. I think this will slot into my TBR as Sanderson writes books 6-10. Thanks for this overview!

  • @shawnturpin197
    @shawnturpin197 Před 2 lety +5

    I started reading this series in January with the thought that I'd read a Malazan book then read some other books before moving onto the next book. Eff that, I'm reading this straight through until I finish the series. This is amazing. I love the confusion and lack of hand holding. The epic scale with the history and races extending back hundreds of thousands of years is something I haven't seen before and I love it. Wait until you get to books four and five and you'll get some extensive character development. I think the first quarter of book four may be the best part of the series and I just finished book six.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Wow that's some high praise. I've heard the books get better as they go on, which is great!

  • @JamesI88
    @JamesI88 Před 2 lety +4

    I said the same exact thing about how there are so many different fantastical elements thrown into this book but it feels real and grounded and never cheesy.

  • @barrilrayder
    @barrilrayder Před 2 lety +2

    So glad you liked it, Jimmy. Anomander Rake is dope in every possible way. I agree about the lore and worldbuilding, they are so massive, interesting and mysterious and what I really like is that learning about it never feels like a infodump, the exposition is always given in context and while we are with the characters. The Azath house stuff at the end was confusing for me too but it was so unique and different that I actually loved it. Anyway, I recently finished Memories of Ice and is sooooo goooood and I think you´re gonna love it too because you learn a little bit more (quite a bit) about the T´lan Imass. Thank you again and I dying to hear your thoughts on Deadhouse Gates.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Barril! I'm here for any and all things about the T'lan Imass

  • @stever8147
    @stever8147 Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome video Jimmy. Absolutely nailed it!!! Anomander Rake is such a cool character. 2 books into the series and he's definitely my favourite. I was put off starting this series with the whole talk of needing spreadsheets and a PhD to follow it, but that's not how I found it to be. I think you nailed it with where it sits on the scale and that will hopefully encourage others to give it a go. Great work as always!!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you so much, I'm glad you felt I did a nice job. I was pumped to make this one!

  • @IskarJarak
    @IskarJarak Před 2 lety +3

    Very cool, glad to see the series getting so much love and attention! Great video!!

  • @alynam82
    @alynam82 Před 2 lety +5

    I enjoyed Gardens of the Moon, and I'm still relatively new to Fantasy. I've been a horror fan and I love historical fiction, so walking into Malazan, and GOTM, it really hit the mark for me. It has those horror elements, and even more so the fact that Erikson is an archeologist (or anthropologist?) gives those historical vibes. And those next few books also got some twisted, dark horror feels as well.
    I've only got up thru book 4 so far, but what makes GOTM different from them is that as a first book, it's a lot tighter in pace. A lot happens, and happens quickly.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      It's true, I definitely felt that history and horror stuff as well. Hoping the pace doesn't suffer too much because I was very happy with GOTM pacing lol

  • @warpgate_x
    @warpgate_x Před rokem

    Best Malazan review on YT. Honest,enthusiastic and not pretentious at all. Great work bro!

  • @jakebishop7822
    @jakebishop7822 Před 2 lety +18

    Who were these people telling you Erikson was a crap character writer

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +3

      There's a lot of them haha

    • @shulgi582
      @shulgi582 Před 2 lety +4

      well, he *isn't* the best, mainly because he has a bijilion characters to work with, but he is far from crap lol.

  • @shanelindemanmusic2650
    @shanelindemanmusic2650 Před 11 měsíci

    Good review, I'm really looking forward to reading this series.

  • @believer773
    @believer773 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi friend, you're right that some of us have been waiting for you to start this journey. From what I've seen of your videos you will definitely enjoy this on a different level than any other series. Just always remember that Malazan is a journey so pack your bags and go!

  • @richardadcock5450
    @richardadcock5450 Před rokem

    Your enthusiasm and the way you explained your experience makes me want to pick this up. I have been thinking about it. Heard a lot of mixed reviews.

  • @Kryten52
    @Kryten52 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm so glad I went ahead and started this series because of this video! I am about two-thirds into Gardens of the Moon and I gotta say I'm intrigued as hell. I truly love the unique voice of it and like you said, the confusion drives me more and more into it. The magic is wild as hell and the role of the gods and their meddlings hold a ton of weight over everything. Hell yeah.

  • @edosaomoruyi1
    @edosaomoruyi1 Před 2 lety +1

    LETS GOOOO! YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT ISSS🐐🐐🐐

  • @indyman_123
    @indyman_123 Před rokem

    Thank you for getting me to start the Malazan journey!

  • @romalohase9147
    @romalohase9147 Před 2 lety +1

    Nicely done!

  • @storytoob
    @storytoob Před 5 měsíci

    Splendid review Jimbo! As a Latin person, I truly appreciated the quesadillas analogy.
    Muchas gracias,
    Carlito ❤

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 5 měsíci

      Ayyyyy thanks man

    • @storytoob
      @storytoob Před 5 měsíci

      @@thefantasynuttwork going to make my way through some of this Malazan booktube content backlog. Figured I'd start here 😉

  • @KH554
    @KH554 Před 2 lety

    Glad to watch your video!
    I am currently going through the series in audiobook form, and the narrator is fantastic.
    I was warned that Gardens of the Moon would be a bit less engaging as it was just helping us flesh out Erikson's world and characters. Many more loving and surprising characters to come!
    I found further books do much to help bring understanding to the magic used in the series.
    One thing I caught is that not everyone in the series knows about magic. Some people don't believe it exists. The convoluted telling of the story feels like how you would read a lot of the characters -- thrust into an alien world with no understanding of the beauty and horror.
    The physical descriptions done by Erikson helped me keep my feet during the climaxes in further books. Also helps us appreciate what a beast Calahm Mecal as he goes around rugby blocker assassin style.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      The descriptions do go a long way for sure. Narrator is really good!

  • @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn
    @CounsellorofMoonsSpawn Před 2 lety +2

    Great review! GotM is really only the tip of the iceberg.
    There are lots of tonal shifts actually, and different continents and locations are quite disctinct.
    Also, there can never be enough Anomander-love!

  • @DavidDecero
    @DavidDecero Před 2 lety

    I need to pick this back up! I tried to keep up with a read along earlier this year, but quickly realized this is something I'll have to read at my own pace. I enjoyed the characters as well. With my limited exposure to the series it seemed like Erikson did a good job of quickly conveying the personality of each character. Which was probably challenging as there are so many. lol

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah they all have good personality, at least for me. You're so right too, your own pace is important with this series because of how different everyone's experience can be with it

  • @alejandrorubio305
    @alejandrorubio305 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review, Jimmy

  • @thereadingstray7423
    @thereadingstray7423 Před 2 lety +2

    Kruppe is very pleased with this video!

  • @blacknbluecollarreader

    Excellent review!! I had a whole TBR list for 2023......but Amazon had to let me know there was a sale on all 10 books in this series. I was anxiously awaiting for the White Luck Warrior to be delivered and decided to pick up Gardens. Such a mistake!!!! My TBR List is ALL FREAKED UP NOW!!! lol

  • @iremainteague5653
    @iremainteague5653 Před rokem

    I think I will pick this book up. You've convinced me to give it a try.

  • @mich7008
    @mich7008 Před 2 lety +1

    I just finished the first book and I honestly wasn’t sure I was in the right frame of mind or had the capability to read this series. As I started I thought I might not finish it. But as I read the last words I had chills….. literally I had chills. I loved this book and am excited to press on. Great review and channel!!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for that Michael. One of things I wish I had talked about more in the review is how rewarding and epic it felt when all the plot strings came together at the end. Was really well done and made the confusion worth it

    • @mich7008
      @mich7008 Před 2 lety

      @@thefantasynuttwork no question about that!! It was very satisfying!

  • @cap-tavating5862
    @cap-tavating5862 Před 2 lety +3

    As someone on book 8 it only gets better. An amazing series

  • @charlesburge2564
    @charlesburge2564 Před rokem

    From someone who is absolutely a spatial reader, the book’s descriptions of distance and height are so appreciated and it’s a huge plus for me to read it

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před rokem

      Yeah it’s definitely a personal thing for me. Also it makes sense he would include them as he was an archaeologist

  • @samtrott776
    @samtrott776 Před 2 lety

    I’ve been looking for something to fill the whole that WOT left when I finished it so you’ve convinced me, I’ll take the dive!

  • @kingofhearts642
    @kingofhearts642 Před rokem

    My experience was so similar to yours. On top of the reputation the series as a whole has for being challenging to read and hard to follow, all I kept hearing about book one is that it's a "rough start", that you have to force yourself to "push through" so that you can get to the eventual payoffs later in the series. I had the same pre-conception about the characters too, I was not expecting to get attached to anyone, at least not so much in book one.
    But by the time I was even just a couple chapters in, I was having a blast. Like you said, the confusion isn't so much frustrating as it is intriguing, it made me want to dive deeper into this world and narrative. And I loved the characters! We aren't allowed to get as deep into their heads as some other writers will do, but like you I literally found the full cast of main characters so compelling and interesting.

  • @mccrme
    @mccrme Před 2 lety +3

    Erikson has some pretty grand literary ambitions. Nearly every sentence is dense with layers of meaning and themes. I love Malazan and the characters are great (I don't understand why anyone would say the characters aren't good) but it's not a casual read.

  • @tmrogers87
    @tmrogers87 Před 5 dny

    Excited to start this story, looking for any recommendations to chapter-by-chapter podcasts. I am such a slow reader, and appreciate spoiler-free podcasts of that style to help me get oriented as I go on this journey!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 5 dny +1

      @@tmrogers87 I’m not aware of any but check out Iskar Jaraks channel

    • @tmrogers87
      @tmrogers87 Před 5 dny

      @@thefantasynuttwork love the interaction on a 2-years late comment!

  • @heretic124
    @heretic124 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait for your review of Memories of Ice. It's the book that sold me on this being the best fantasy epic ever. (I haven't read Stormlight yet)
    I love the challenge of reading this, of not everything being shoved down my throat and having to figure stuff out on my own. Regarding characterization, it's not a weak point. Books are written from perspective of characters and sometimes those characters have different knowledge about the same stuff. For me it even adds to the depth of the world. There are lies, there is misinformation. As in real life. And some characters may feel poorly written but it's not entirely true. Those people probably didn't finish the series or they're straight dumb.
    Once you're done with this go for Black Company series. It's what inspired Erikson and you'll see similar army atmosphere and humor there. It's just as grimdark if not more.

  • @cacballs
    @cacballs Před 2 lety

    New Malazan content, woo!!

  • @lewisshemery2585
    @lewisshemery2585 Před rokem +1

    Baric Dondarrion has to be my favorite fantasy name of all time

  • @nelzar
    @nelzar Před 2 lety +3

    I didn't love Gardens because I didn't find myself caring for the characters, but I still plan to eventually give Deadhouse Gates a try.
    I think people overplay the confusion aspect of it. There are clearly some things here and there you aren't supposed to understand at the moment, but otherwise it was a fairly coherent and straightforward book.
    Great video, Jimmy.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you Nelzar!!

    • @cynthiaholmes5124
      @cynthiaholmes5124 Před 2 lety +2

      Deadhouse gates is so much better than gardens of the moon do far it's my favorite in the series already read memories of ice will continue with the series 👍🥰🙂🌟

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      @@cynthiaholmes5124 good to hear 😎

  • @ladrac198
    @ladrac198 Před 2 lety

    I'm on book 5 right now and it's just kept getting better!

  • @Onion42069
    @Onion42069 Před 11 měsíci

    I’m 15 and this is the first fantasy book I’ve read 3 and a half chapters so far some of the other reviews say that this book is super confusing but I have found that I understand it very well and I’m really enjoying it

  • @readingreignbro5680
    @readingreignbro5680 Před 2 lety +2

    Anomander IS a badass name and even cooler when you break it down(literally, just googled this, 😆) .............Ano = Time, Mander = to walk aimlessly. So, I interpret that as Wanderer of Ages, or Time Walker. And rake is a tool used to smooth or GATHER. What does his sword do? My mind is blown. Their are so many layers of meaning to everything in this series. Happy reading, friend.

  • @wormemperor4167
    @wormemperor4167 Před 2 lety +1

    Your review makes me want to pick up the book and see what all that Malazan fuzz is about :-D After First Law and the Expanse it will probably happen^^

  • @jaymorningstar244
    @jaymorningstar244 Před 9 měsíci

    This series has become my most favorite I believe (still having feelings) over WoT. I believe listening to it read on Audible has made this more enjoyable for me though.
    It is a series (just finished Memories of Ice /cry) that makes me want to go back and listen again.

  • @jojothepirate87
    @jojothepirate87 Před 10 měsíci

    I finished the series about 4 years ago and I feel compelled to read it again.
    I'm trying to fight off the compulsion until I finish my current reading project.

  • @drawyrral
    @drawyrral Před 2 lety

    I love listening to first timers talk about Malazan.

  • @DionysusSCII
    @DionysusSCII Před rokem

    I never got too curious curious until the midnight tides storyline...but after that I couldnt help but steamroll through the end of Crippled God.

  • @TheLibraryofAllenxandria
    @TheLibraryofAllenxandria Před 2 lety +1

    Great review, Jimmy, and super balanced! You have a lot of the same feelings as I have, while acknowledging that everything isn't perfect. I think he has some really good characters as well, but every single one isn't a mastercraft as is sometimes claimed. But I'm known for my hot Malazan takes, despite loving the series. I do not like Rake, for example. 😜
    Most everything becomes pretty easy to understand come book 3 and there's definitely setting diversity, though it's more of a jump in books rather than interbook. The military engagements though...that's some good stuff.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Hey thanks man! Seeing how you enjoyed the series and what you got from it made me more comfortable with just reading the basic story of Malazan without having to delve too deep into a lot of themes and such, so thank you! I'll have to bring you on for some Malazan talk in the future 🤠

    • @TheLibraryofAllenxandria
      @TheLibraryofAllenxandria Před 2 lety

      @@thefantasynuttwork yes! I would love that!

  • @berentook
    @berentook Před 2 lety +3

    I have been scared to start Malazan for a while now but i think i might just take the plunge.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Jump in with me hahah

    • @cynthiaholmes5124
      @cynthiaholmes5124 Před 2 lety

      It gets better with deadhouse gates gardens of the moon was a bit confusing but I did got into eventually 😉

  • @andrewstrongman305
    @andrewstrongman305 Před měsícem

    Pale is in Genebakis, not far from Darujhistan. Deadhouse Gates is largely set in Seven Cities. I first read Gardens of the Moon not long after it was published. I couldn't understand a lot of what was going on, but I was hooked anyway. I wanted to experience more of the Malazan world, and the journey of discovery never really ends. I bought each book in the series as soon as they were available, and my copies of Deadhouse Gates, Memories of Ice, and House of Chains have fallen apart.

  • @yusuffulat6954
    @yusuffulat6954 Před 2 lety +1

    Anomander Rake is indeed a cool name :)

  • @jaket1501
    @jaket1501 Před 2 lety +2

    Yes, Anomander Rake == dopest fantasy name ever.

  • @derrisreaditbefore
    @derrisreaditbefore Před 2 lety +1

    luckily there are lots of different teas :)
    Happy you're enjoying another huge series, and between all of the booktubers who are reading Malazan this year, my vicarious experience is a good one :D

  • @kgrant67
    @kgrant67 Před rokem

    @Billy Alarie who was the book reviewer you said was probably the biggest influence on you deciding to read this? Sounded like rhythma but couldn't find it. Thanks for a great review!

  • @EricMcLuen
    @EricMcLuen Před 2 lety +1

    Mandy Pu is just completely over the top but beware the wiki.
    Nice shout out of that dinner scene. AP does an entire vid on it. There is a lot going on. It is a good example of how Erickson slips in a lot of exposition but seems completely natural.
    It is a balance between confusion, patience and curiosity.
    I am anticipating you will love a character in book 2 which will put you in agreement with Allen.
    And on the flip side, it is only 10 books compared to the 16 Hobbs. Which I am starting Liveship when done with Sword and Citadel.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm so excited to watch more AP, he's terrific. Also fair trade, I'll read Malazan and you do Hobb. We both win! Haha

    • @TheLibraryofAllenxandria
      @TheLibraryofAllenxandria Před 2 lety +1

      Fingers crossed he loves that character.

  • @Azwan1415
    @Azwan1415 Před 2 lety

    I read this many years ago and just didnt understand it. After seeing this review im going to give it another go.

  • @fantasticphilosophy181
    @fantasticphilosophy181 Před 2 lety +4

    For me, the moment we entered Darujistan through Kruppe, i knew i would love this series, loved him.
    Also, Raest is awesome! 🖤

  • @noelnovels6511
    @noelnovels6511 Před 2 lety +1

    This is making me want to pick up Deadhouse Gates like ASAP 😭
    What is your definition of a hard magic system? Because I said that it was, but that might be bc I have no clue what it really means. Lol. The magic confused me and it seemed like there were a lot of rules to it, butttt idk tho 😂🤷🏻‍♀️
    I also really enjoyed that dinner scene as well, but every time Tattersail was on the page I was absolutely loving it. Also agree that that bit at the end was anti- climatic!!
    #unapologeticallyteamkruppe lol
    P.s loving the new setup!!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Noel! And hard magic system is sort of loose to define but I judge it as it has a resource pool that we can count and track and has many rules in place for it. The best example would be Mistborn I think. Where as here Quick Ben can just open a Warren and we aren't sure why or how he's granted that power. Pretty sure there's no super set definition though hahah

    • @cynthiaholmes5124
      @cynthiaholmes5124 Před 2 lety

      You definitely need to read deadhouse gates I absolutely enjoyed it and it wasn't as confusing as gardens 😉😇

  • @MattonBooks
    @MattonBooks Před rokem +1

    Yes, Anomander Rake is hands-down the baddest ass name.

  • @thatsci-firogue
    @thatsci-firogue Před 2 lety +4

    I really liked GotM but Deadhouse Gates was when I fell in love with the series. I'm only on Midnight Tides (I'm caught up in a couple other books right now) but Malazan is already a Top 10, probably Top 5 favourite fantasy series of all-time for me.
    Am I often left in the dark? Yes
    But am I ever bored during a Malazan book? Hood's Breath, No!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      Hoods breath! Hahah, DHG has started our well, and very very grim haha

    • @thatsci-firogue
      @thatsci-firogue Před 2 lety +1

      @@thefantasynuttwork I know you hate in-world curse words (I kinda agree) but Hood's Breath is a good one lol
      Yeah DHG is pretty dark... the Seven Cities stuff is my favourite parts in the series so far

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      @@thatsci-firogue his in world swears sound great. It's all about the weight of a word you know?

    • @thatsci-firogue
      @thatsci-firogue Před 2 lety +1

      @@thefantasynuttwork yeah it's weird to hear "curse it" or whatever when an f-bomb will do

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +2

      @@thatsci-firogue I think fake swear words need to have a sharp ending with weight like Hood has that but "storms" doesn't. Doesn't make an impact.. I could probably make a video all about this 😂

  • @curtjarrell9710
    @curtjarrell9710 Před 2 lety

    I think a man my age (I'm retired) has no business picking up a 23 volume series of novels, many weighing in at 1,000 pages, and not lose his sanity. I hope all the fans love it. There's so much to read I'll be OK if I don't read it. Thanks as always for your review.

  • @sw3dge
    @sw3dge Před 4 měsíci

    Characters and Erikson's prose both blew me away in this one.

  • @cynthiaholmes5124
    @cynthiaholmes5124 Před 2 lety +1

    I definitely read this book slowly because there was times that it was a little confusing I had an easier time with deadhouse gates and memories of ice going to read house of chains in August 🤔🙀😊

  • @trill_nathan
    @trill_nathan Před 2 lety

    As you said, Erikson isn't weak at character writing. But despite my love for the series, the indirect characterization coupled with the large cast does make it difficult to latch on to them as much as my favorites in other series

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I think this is a very true statement and will likely be the case for me as well. Like I really enjoyed them, but I won't be as attached as let's say a Fitz or Tyrion

  • @safinan8008
    @safinan8008 Před 2 lety

    Garden of the moon book was confusing..... but it was amazing it added eventually.. 😊😊😊

  • @brendanekin5947
    @brendanekin5947 Před 2 lety +1

    I have 250 pages to go. It is confusing at times, but the characters are great! I am reading GoTM slowly and reflecting a lot, trying to puzzle it out. This is a very good sign to me.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm so glad you started it, if you ever need help or just wanna chat about it just hit me up in th discord. Gonna be a fun ride 🤘

    • @brendanekin5947
      @brendanekin5947 Před 2 lety

      @@thefantasynuttwork Legend! Thanks. That file you sent me is really helping! Hope you're enjoying DHG!

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      @@brendanekin5947 glad to hear it and thanks man 🤘

  • @eduardobenassi3072
    @eduardobenassi3072 Před 2 lety

    I'm a bit intimidated, ngl. read about 80 pages today (online). Not too hard on the dome so far. I had my dictionary at hand, sure, some words were _not there_ 😂ok. Anyhow, I dig his writing style, beautiful, it doesn't feel dense or boring. You can tell Erikson's got a brain on him. 10 books though, sheeesh... I'll probably get to it when I finish reading Sun Eater and a couple of standalone classics I've been putting off for a while.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Well as you read you can check out all my Malazan content and hopefully it works as a good companion to the series 😎

  • @darren2880
    @darren2880 Před 2 lety

    Yes!!! Can’t wait to see what you think

  • @Avzigoyhbasilsikos
    @Avzigoyhbasilsikos Před rokem

    That’s the second dopest name, after
    miles Teg and celebrimbor

  • @MGWorldwide
    @MGWorldwide Před 2 lety

    Pale is on Genabackis about 300 miles south so while 300.miles is 300 miles it's not like the North to Dorne in ASOIAF. 7 cities is rather Arrakis-like

  • @ra1k_0
    @ra1k_0 Před 2 lety

    Do you have the ISBN for your copy? Finding it hard to get a standard sice that isn't gloss 🙂

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      Let me look, there is a little gloss look to this one that didn't show much on camera.

  • @demidrek-heyward
    @demidrek-heyward Před rokem

    Any day now I'm expecting Jimmy to unveil his Brando Sando moment where he reveals he secretly has read 5 long epic fantasy series & already has recorded/edited hundreds of hours content, all without telling us. I'm ready!

  • @currangill430
    @currangill430 Před 2 lety

    Update: I just finished the prologue of Malazan, it's def better this time around. I think after I finish Shattered Sea I'm gonna start Malazan. I'm prepared for a 10 book epic!

    • @currangill430
      @currangill430 Před 2 lety

      You and Phillip Chase convinced me to try again.

  • @crystalsingh7325
    @crystalsingh7325 Před 2 lety +4

    Yay! Hope you love this series. It's the best! 😀🤩

  • @jeremykimble5604
    @jeremykimble5604 Před 2 lety

    Hey man where did u get that big ass book for gardens of the moon. I want one

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 Před 9 měsíci

    5:45 I actually think not reading a wiki or guide is the way to go. If you dont get frustrated by a bit of mystery that is. The thing that makes Malazan so unique imo is how the main reading experience is getting random hits of dopamine dispersed over several books and rereads every time something "clicks". When you see how the different events are connected and you grasp the implications of a seemingly random action or metaphor on a second or third read. That is what Malazan is all about for me. Reading a wiki would ruin that.

  • @AndrewsWizardlyReads
    @AndrewsWizardlyReads Před 2 lety

    So happy you loved it!!!!

  • @v3rmilli0nair3
    @v3rmilli0nair3 Před 2 lety +4

    Anyone who says Steven Erikson
    can't write characters has never actually ready Steven Erikson lol

  • @asterrashter4637
    @asterrashter4637 Před 2 lety

    Lord anomander rake, is great but even his other names mane of chaos, son fo darkness is awesome.

  • @aspirant7713
    @aspirant7713 Před 2 lety

    Where can I buy Trade paperback Version of Malazen Book of the fallen? in UK preferably. Plz anyone help!!!!

  • @incitatus4227
    @incitatus4227 Před 9 měsíci

    Could you elaborate on how being an advanced fantasy reader helps with this series? I only read Name of the Wind and the First Law trilogy so far, fantasy-wise, and I wanted to jump into Malazan. A lot of people say you it helps to have read other fantasy stuff before it, but I don't really understand what exactly is meant by that.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 9 měsíci

      Nah don’t worry about that, in fact I think looking back that less experience can benefit this series because you don’t have expectations of how the story should be structured or executed. Erikson approaches narrative and characters in a way that isn’t as prevalent in fantasy. I say dive in and have fun. Godspeed

    • @incitatus4227
      @incitatus4227 Před 9 měsíci

      @@thefantasynuttwork Thanks so much for your opinion! I read the first 70 pages now and it's less confusing or esoteric than I thought, so that's nice. It's still fantasy, after all

  • @vijayagali849
    @vijayagali849 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you plz tell me on which order did you read cosmere , bcoz I want to first read stormlight archive so badly .

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      You can start with Stormlight if you'd like

    • @vijayagali849
      @vijayagali849 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thefantasynuttwork But some say you will miss somethings and they say that we cannot enjoy stormlight archive as much as who has more cosmere knowledge by reading other books , Thank You .

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety

      @@vijayagali849 read Warbreaker before book 2 or 3

    • @vijayagali849
      @vijayagali849 Před 2 lety

      @@thefantasynuttwork k thank you bro

    • @vijayagali849
      @vijayagali849 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thefantasynuttwork But one last thing bro is it enough for rhythm of war bcoz everyone in reddits say that , it connects everything in cosmere.

  • @goodluckiz2669
    @goodluckiz2669 Před 4 měsíci

    I got about halfway through the first book before I put it down. Sure it has epic scale and cool creatures but none of the characters were the least bit interesting and the plot often felt too disconnected (I know it reconnects later) I will eventually give this another try but I wasn’t impressed on my first read

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 4 měsíci

      It’s def not for everyone

    • @goodluckiz2669
      @goodluckiz2669 Před 4 měsíci

      @@thefantasynuttwork I will come back to it because I want to at least say I’ve given the first two books a try. But I was super disappointed by it, the magic and world was cool but that was it.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 4 měsíci

      @@goodluckiz2669 I’d just move on, too many books to read that you’ll like more!

  • @jasonuerkvitz3756
    @jasonuerkvitz3756 Před rokem

    I'll try reading it again. I thought the book was a stinker. Everyone loves it and I simply don't understand why. I suppose I was spoiled by some of the other things I'd read in the genre at that point and it paled in comparison.

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před rokem

      Different strokes for different folks is all. Not everyone loves it, but we who do really enjoy discussing the series. GOTM is the weakest entry of the series in some ways, so maybe the future ones would work for, but then again they may not. No big deal, cheers!

  • @cdoodle9949
    @cdoodle9949 Před 3 měsíci

    How would you rank all 10 books in Malazan Book of the Fallen?

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hard to say tbh, I think my hot take about the series is that I loved all ten and never found a low point. Top 3 would probably be Bonehunters, TTH, and MT

    • @cdoodle9949
      @cdoodle9949 Před 3 měsíci

      Interesting!

  • @mrsduncanthetall
    @mrsduncanthetall Před 2 lety

    Woahhh Senor Nueces ☺ look at your sword 🗡. Btw jimmy i do make the best Quezadillas

    • @thefantasynuttwork
      @thefantasynuttwork  Před 2 lety +1

      I believe you do in fact. Do you see how big Ice is compared to longclaw, I'm so glad someone noticed 🤣

    • @mrsduncanthetall
      @mrsduncanthetall Před 2 lety

      @@thefantasynuttwork i was going to make the size comparison but my best judgement stopped me 😂😂😂. You are so lucky think geek ran out before i could get my hands one.i hope in the future to get either.😍

  • @CurieBohr
    @CurieBohr Před 8 měsíci

    Did you say, rhythm ma’s channel?

  • @MrSnivs
    @MrSnivs Před 2 lety +1

    Book of the Malazan is the best fantasy series you never feel good about recommending to other people.