Hey guys, 28 yr old guitar slinger from Australia here. I just wanted to thank you for your show. I'm lying in hospital tonight after receiving a rather scary diagnosis today regarding my future. Sorry to get all deep and meaningful but your show helped me feel a little more at home as I usually watch it every week. As soon as I opened the video up, saw that orange pedal and heard that familiar snarl I couldn't help but smile.
Sending you all the best from us James, and a collective container truck of good vibes on behalf of the TPS audience. Glad we can be of some use in the tough times. Best to you geezer!
I use different amplifiers for each different repeat. I have been experimenting with using different effects and I reckon that I could make them sound like different guitars. Then again, once I develop my poor man's Rick-o-Sound that will be even easier. :)
Plug your phone into your pedalboard (this may require an adapter) and use that to repeat someone else's sound. Or, you could use an old walkman for that authentic analogue warmth.
Kind of interesting that we like the sound of the imperfections, and those are the result of not having the technology to perfectly repeat the sounds in the early days, even though that almost certainly was the goal at the time.
All (well, a lot of) guitar sound seems to be about that; Valve amplifiers? Distortion and fuzz being staples on a board. Most of guitar music is at the opposite end of High Fidelity. EDIT: To clarify, that is a part of the whole thing that I value highly in a world that focusses so much on a verbatim transmission of perceived ideals.
Option paralysis is , indeed, a substantial bane in most creative endeavors.When you combine the initial learning curve with the time and effort it takes in" hands on" modes,(though most of us are more than passingly familiar in our daily lives with scrolling endless menus), - it is not unlikely to acheive a dead stop.Personally, not only am I not experienced with complex programs, but I've also found them largely detrimental to my specific purposes .A DD7 and Ditto looper are about as much as I might successfully incorporate, with the EHX Freeze being about my natural speed.Like Clint said , so long ago,- " A man's got to know his limitations"...
I would love to see an avantgarde gear challenge, bit crushers, ringmodulators, step-filters, etc. I would find it very interesting to see someone that understands gear on your level, make sense of effects like that.
Same. I've been around the block many times and I keep coming back to: One good, dedicated analog delay like a Maxon AD-9 pro, DM-2, etc One fairly comprehensive digital delay, or a simple but high-end digital delay (eg Source Audio Nemesis/T-Rex Replica, respectively) Two. You always need two. It's like the Sith.
I know this episode is 4 years old now, but I find myself a couple times a month coming back to it for this beautiful intro. Mick, you are such a beautifully expressive musician. Your approach to the guitar has done so much for my playing ability as well as my spirit. Dan, you’re also a great musician, and a soul that visibly is madly in love with music. I watch you get lost in the moment, which is genuinely precious to witness! This intro and the fuzz episode intro almost always brings me to tears. I am truly inspired by the work you both do! I hope you guys see this comment so you can understand how much your passion for new musical creation has helped me through some very difficult days. What a wonderful gift it is to be able to make music!!! Thank you to TPS in the most sincere way!
Boss DD-500 ended my search. So many choices & options with deep-dive editing, tweaking & customization. Learned alot from watching "Countless Hours" of TPS, to get my Delay patches right. Thanks guys.
I found this channel yesterday.... have watched around 7hrs of content since. Considering I worked a 14hr shift in that time I’d say that’s about 79% of my spare time. Yet I’ve managed to only buy one pedal in that time. Incredible channel!! Honest and thorough. Amazing content boys!! Also a MASSIVE fan of the fact you timeline you videos in the description. Has allowed me to scan through into the bits I really need and slip through the bits I already know about or don’t necessarily need. Love your work.
In 1986 I had my Digitech PDS-2000 and it was my pride and joy. I also had the DOD FX-55 Distortion and two Arion Japan modulation pedals: the chorus and the phaser. I was full of myself with these, as pedals were not nearly as available as we see today. It took me a decade to understand why i needed this delay and what i could do with it. Without having it demonstrated or being able to just watch a video on it, i had no idea how many ways delay could be used and how many sounds require it. I have 3 delay's on my board now and have one on all the time. I still own these pedals and still use several of them.
Chuckled to myself when Mick said only two things to worry about repeats and delays and then leans down and twiddles 8 or ten different knobs on the DD200. _Very_ interesting video. Thanks.
Great recommendation on the DD 200 as a starting point for delay. I picked one up over the holidays and have loved the versatility it offers. The tape and drum modes are really well done - great if you want to start exploring multi-head delays with all those cool rhythmic repeats. Just enough knobs and options to tailor your sound without needing to constantly refer back to the manual
This video, could not have come at a better time. Early in 2019, I made the switch from a multi effects unit to pedals (that's TPS's fault btw). I'm one of the guys Mick spoke about. I figured I'd need a delay and bought a boss DD7. I've barely used it, the repeats are too clean for me. I'm now desperate to try more ambient delays and this vid helped a ton. Thank you chaps, as always, informative, educational and entertaining. All the best.
Delay Llama is an epic name for a pedal. I love that punsters can still get paid work in this day and age. I've spent 20 minutes trying to come up with a good one to use in this comment but I literally give you one.
I've lost count on how many delay related videos you have created, but I never get tired of watching them. The pedal selection has quite changed and expanded from the past videos over the time, also in versatility. Essentially this communicates to me maybe about the renaissance of delay. Especially the colored, full of character delay. Some years back you got some standard delays like digital and some classic analog ones. Carbon copy came out and stole the show. Now you have room filled with stuff like the actual tape boxes rereleased or reinvented, echoplex simulator, multiple record head simulated, analog with digital controls and modulation, digital delays that model all kinds of delays and do very creative tricks. Flashback being not the least. I have to consider this in bigger perspective too and see how the pedal industry might be richer than ever (by no means my own idea, I think you've voiced it out loud before too). There are plenty of DIFFERENT options with everything, all kinds of units coming out from classic and legendary to industry standard tools, work horses, to creative and totally utopistic inventions. Such a lovely time to be a guitarist. And it warms my heart, because now I love delay and would most of the time have delay always on. Despite the fact that the first times I tried delays it was a disgusting mess that sounded nasty and disorienting. Yup, I had the same experience as Mick, digital delay being the only available type on modelling or multi effects units. It has its uses but only now I can think of delay without sneering and I've learned of all the beautiful ways of how it can enrich your tone. Today delay is my instant second choice of pedals after all the things that make distorted noise, from boosters to drives etc. It creates tone and character, not just ear puncturing copy repeats. Thanks guys.
This was a good format. Kudos. Things I know about delay: * If tempo is critical to your delay setting in a song, it will never be right during the song at the gig. * Sometimes Tap tempo doesn’t set the right tempo. Likely user error, but at the gig “things occur.” * Changes to effect level will have to be made to suit your venue. * Speaker mic compression at the sound board will change your delay levels in the monitor mix. * Playing bone dry is harder than having some delay * Delays give you magic moments. Synergy: sometimes you kick in a delay and the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.
One good compromise is to get a TC Flashback Mini to go along with a core delay. For $60 used it will give you access to the whole TC library, which is awesome. To me the 2200 is the best sounding digital delay ever, and there is tons more in a little pedal. When I just want another flavor for one song it’s perfect.
I would love to see you guys get Tosin Abasi on your show. He’s big into pedals and plays so many styles. I could see you 3 having a blast of a time together.
Sorry guys! Got a bit delayed watching this one... (cue groans)... but... it has given me the chance to read all the comments 1st and it's obvious you guys really have helped many people choose which delay pedal is right for them. This is succinctly noted with quite a few viewers stating - almost with sighs of relief - that the solution to their particular requirement is simply a single MXR Carbon Copy (or similar) and can detect an almost 'light bulb switching on' moment for them. That is why this channel really exists! Superb job well done!
I got to say I look so forward to your show. I’ve been battling a state of depression and watching your show takes a lot off my mind for a while. You guys have a very uplifting spirit that makes me feel good. Thanks for all the info and I hope you guys are blessed through the new year.....
Really interesting to read interviews with the Edge when he moved from the Memory Man (Boy, October & War) to the Korg SDD-3000 digital delay (Unforgettable Fire) and how he had to change his playing style. Compare 'I Will Follow' to 'Bad' to hear the difference.
I wholeheartedly prefer the overall tones and songs of earlier U2, and I think a lot of that has to do with the quirks of the Memory Man, especially since it was more or less the only pedal they had (outside of a drive, which doesn't really count).
The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town....As an old geezer that's used every delay under the sun (feels that way) including having owned from EP-3's and RE-201's to Timelines and Echorecs I am thrilled that I actually have more to learn!!!! Great great show. Mick, one comment quip. I am a MIDI monster and can make it do anything. This vid was absolutely for me!!!! You guys rock.
Great job as always, gents. I started out only wanting digital delay, and over time I've gradually become much more interested in analog and tape style sounds. This Show in particular has shown me what those sounds can *really* do and how to make the most of them, in a way that I never discovered in my formative guitar years. Many many thanks for your continued service to tone, and for the efforts you go to in order to help wee guitar chaps like me. 👍
Hey guys, my giddy aunt, I have just learnt about analog delay, I shunned it because it was too dark, but, with my drive it sounds mega. Dan and mic I have been watching for years and you guys are now like my family, awesome dudes
Loved this!!!! Wow, my story is EXACTLY the same as Mick's. I bought a Boss DD3 years and years ago. Because guitarists are supposed to have a delay pedal, right? I absolutely HATED it! An exact facsimile of what I'd just played coming back at me. NO, just NO! It went straight on eBay. Fast forward a good few years; That Pedal Show comes into my life. I again decide to dip my toe into the world of delay. But this time I'm a little more cautious, I buy the Mooer Ana for £50..... I now own the Strymon Brigadier and I absolutely love it. It's beautiful textural repeats that never get in the way, wonderful! Thanks guys :-)
This is so strange. I haven't been to this channel in ages and was just thinking..... I wonder if Dan and Mick have a new video about delay pedals. Wow, it's the most recent post. I'm in the market for a new delay, so this is perfect timing guys! (no pun intended).
This is one of your best show imo. I mean, your shows are always entertaining and informative, but this one is so well written and exhaustive it feels necessary. Delay has been my "next gear purchase" for a long time and I find it very difficult to get a clear idea of what I need and what is best for my guitar playing. Sometimes it's pleasant to see a content that covers the basics in context in a way most of us will find it useful. The same way the show about "the right overdrive" had me finally achieving this endless quest and realize all I needed was a Boss BD-2.
I can’t remember if it was this episode or the reverb one, but Dan showed a stereo hack if you have only 1 amp...wiring it back on itself. Well, I just did that with my digitech obscura delay into my polara reverb and then wired it back to the delay again. HOLY shit guys. Absolutely amazing!
Even though I’ve become really competent with everything you mention in this video,(Thanks to you) you definitely were asking the right questions here. Fantastic content.
I think the tc flashback 2 should had been displayed here since it can do many things (like stereo ping pong, reverse, etc) and its fairly simple yo use and affordable. Another one is the eqd avalanche run
I've had the original Flashback x4, and I keep coming back to it, because it's so easy to use live. I might trade for a new one, and I say that having owned a Timeline.
I love my Flashback II, simple to use, 3 presets (editable toneprints), analog dry through, and i use it in stereo. My favourite delays in it are reverse and my two tape presets, one is fairly clean but modulated and second one is the tape age set to the max, ofcourse all in stereo, i guest kinda impossible with non digital hardware. And i won't even start about the mash feature wich is absolutely fantastic..
It's important to understand the two ways to alter the delay time. You can alter the number of steps before you play it back (akin to moving the head on the EP3, and what most digital devices do) or you can alter the sample rate (akin to changing the tape motor speed on the EP3, and what bucket brigade devices do). The former only affects playback, the latter also affects recording speed. No one other than me cares about this, but it makes a difference. Seriously.
As you might guess, the Catalinbread Echorec is my fav delay pedal ever. It is pure magic. As you guys discuss, what really makes this and a few other pedals shine is the preamp. It's not just about the sound of the repeats, or the functions and modes- it's those special pedals- like my old memory man- that when you step on it your sound changes- it gets bigger, fatter- more energetic- what have you. Many companies - like strymon, TC, Eventide etc- make great sounding digital modeling delays- but only a few companies integrate a preamp into their pedals- and it's this preamp that gives a few pedals that special something- where you step on it and it's more than just "repeats". Catalinbread have been doing this for years with the Echorec and the incredible Belle epoch (old ones and the new deluxe line)- killer stuff. Anyway- a fun follow up to this could explore more esoteric delays and or esoteric sounds. My favorite part of this video was the weird pitch warping you guys did with the new JAM pedal. A deeper dive into that sort of territory would be really fun! Thanks guys- great show!
A friend of mine nicknamed me 'the man with more delays than a privatised bus company' more than 25 years ago. I still own quite a few of 'em. :-P Most of them analog. I personally love the 'analog' sound, with the usual decay, but my EHX Canyon performs great as well (awesome number of options), and the small form factor does a lot of good as well. Basically I use but 1 setting, tape delay. That's quite enough for me. This 'narrowing down' of options and possibilities is a good start for anyone still looking for one! ;-)
After watching your episode with Devin Townsend I knew I needed the ocean machine. I love all the crazy sounds it can do that other delays can't. Picking the right delay is just as critical as the right drive pedal.
I had always dialed a "dotted 8th" slightly modulated, then just adjusted the amount of mix depending on the need for always on or loud and rhythmic. Followed by a small amount of amp reverb. 20 years that was great. Since this show and Pedal companies going nuts, I have upgraded to Source Audio delay/reverb and working with a few preset sounds for application. I love my old BBD but times have changed and there is more than ever at our finger tips now, and we can still keep it simple sir!
I got a Way Huge Supa Puss about this time last year for something primarily analog with modulation that could also be very tonally sculpt-able and include tap tempo and subdivisions. I have been loving it since! I dont use it too very often but when I hear delay on an idea in my head its my go to! It will probably live on my board for a very long time!
A timely video for me, with echoes of Mick's comments on not 'getting' delay and option paralysis. I've been working through the different types on a Line6 M5 struggling to get many of them to sit right, and this video has helped get things into focus and I have just picked up a secondhand Foxgear Echosex Baby. Thanks.
The DD-200 is a complete homerun for Boss, I've bought it twice: first for my bassboard, when the MXR Echoplex died on me, liked it so much, got a 2nd for my small guitar board. Btw: with the new update, its 127+1 presets instead of the 4+1.
@@PhillipTracey I do. It is on a board with a ehx super switcher controlling the delay presets and tap tempo. I have the tap button set to do the warp thing.
On the topic of slapback delay in country and rockabilly: I picked up my best tips for slapback delay from a video of Danny Gatton, who used a Boss DD-2, one repeat, delay set roughly equal in volume to the guitar’s original signal. It’s almost obnoxious by itself, but it really works much better for slapback to use a bright, clear, loud delay in a band context.
Very useful show guys, many thanks! I’ve been on a delay journey the last year or so, since hearing you guys playing a Belle Epoch and being sure it was what I needed. I’ve since gone through 5 different delays and am now back at square 1, realising that I never asked what I needed it for! I’ve been thinking of pulling the trigger on a Boss DD200 as it indeed looks a great entry point and highly useable. I’m now convinced
Great show! You broke down the analysis we all struggle with, and if you played in multiple bands over multiple years (a 40 year vet here) you been thru a number of them. My current delays are an “always on” carbon copy, with a Source Audio nemesis to handle more creative choices.
@Gemma Seymour - I've noticed some of your other comments, and you are so darn clever! I hope you've chosen a partner that can keep up (put up?) with you! 😉
Hi Dan & Mick, Excellent Show 👍👍👍. I love Delay, David Gilmour was the Artist the got me hooked after buying The Wall album. My first Delay was a Boss DD3, very articulate, many years later the T-Rex Reptile 2 which is amazing, then a Carbon Copy which for me has such Character. Dan you were on fire at 57:20 👍. Take care, to you Both♥️👍. Melbourne, Australia.
I am loving these episodes. It is crazy useful to go into this much depth and see how it would fit in different situations. And using the pedals outside the intended purpose
A great education again, guys. I think you've helped me decide on the upgrade to my first delay, though it wasn't on your board. I have to be pretty budget conscious, so I think a used Flashback is going to be it. Seems like all the options an at-home player like me needs. Thanks for all the insight of experience, guys. It really does help.
THE DARK REPEATS sounds like a particularly nasty stricture of the bowel....as in "Dan had to burn the bed sheets after the lamb vindaloo brought on an apocalyptic attack of the DARK REPEATS in the night"
Probably the best TPS episode I've watched. Well thought out, logical and informative. Plus it made me realise (by pure luck) that I'd made the right choice in owning a Seymour Duncan Vapour Trail - it's everything I need with nothing I don't!
Back to the roots! Delay pedals are a particular addiction for me, and years-ago TPS episodes about them got me watching and thinking, "Damn, these guitar things are cool!"
🤣😂 “lets start with a simple delay.......” so choose one which takes a minute to adjust 6 parameters to get a basic delay.........when you have a Carbon Copy right next to it! 🤪🤣 Nice one! Jesting aside...........you guys make the BEST informative vids out there.......hugely entertaining into the bargain! 😎👍
Hey guys, picked up my Alter Ego x4 thanks to you. It's a great combo of easy-dial presets with the toneprint slots that certainly satisfy my need to get under the hood. My old Digitech is now also back in the chain in front of my gain stages. Heard that one somewhere recently too... Quick question, what difference does the impedance of the pot make in an expression pedal?
Delays are dangerously addictive!! Cant stop exploring and enjoying new ones. Love it! I just had some quality time w/d/w with a sdd3000 pedal and then I find this episode😍 Epic friday, cheers guys
For a long time, I thought that I should use only one delay. No idea why. After watching your vids, I realized that there’s no reason why I couldn’t use two. Now there’s two delays on my board: one dark analog and one digital that does a lot of things. The analog is on most of the time, but the digital one can do some things that are very specific.
I thinks it's really great that both of you have different styles and mind sets on what you like with your playing and what sounds you like, and of course you meet in the middle at times to. But it really makes for a great show.
At about 26 mins into this, my epiphany moment occurs. What I’ve been missing, that crucial element lacking in my playing and performing, is ................... someone who knows what they’re doing setting the controls on the pedals on the floor. And possibly also on the amp ....and ideally, also fretting/picking the strings .. Right-oh guys, thanks for that, I’m all set now ...
Hey guys, 28 yr old guitar slinger from Australia here. I just wanted to thank you for your show. I'm lying in hospital tonight after receiving a rather scary diagnosis today regarding my future. Sorry to get all deep and meaningful but your show helped me feel a little more at home as I usually watch it every week. As soon as I opened the video up, saw that orange pedal and heard that familiar snarl I couldn't help but smile.
Sending you all the best from us James, and a collective container truck of good vibes on behalf of the TPS audience. Glad we can be of some use in the tough times. Best to you geezer!
Guitar is medecine for your soul. All the best, from USA.
James Emerson best wishes.
Good luck sir.
A strong soul can move mountains, stay strong my friend.
The mythical
legend of Daniel,
with pedal collection substantial;
his knowledge amassed,
was varied and vast,
because he read ALL
of the manual.
This deserves more upvotes!
Brilliant. Agree on the upvotes!
"Delay is your sound, repeated."
Ahhh that's my issue with delay! Is there one that repeats someone else?
Hahahahahaha!!!!
I use different amplifiers for each different repeat. I have been experimenting with using different effects and I reckon that I could make them sound like different guitars. Then again, once I develop my poor man's Rick-o-Sound that will be even easier. :)
Plug your phone into your pedalboard (this may require an adapter) and use that to repeat someone else's sound. Or, you could use an old walkman for that authentic analogue warmth.
Well if you have a modeller with an aux you can play any song through and add effects i guess 😆
Still smiling over "delay llama"
What a great name
You've heard of the delay llama, now get ready for: Delay Llama Extreme.
oh Oh OH
Good LORD that Collings sounds amazing with the Belle Epoch and ODS! That's not a cheap sound.
Kind of interesting that we like the sound of the imperfections, and those are the result of not having the technology to perfectly repeat the sounds in the early days, even though that almost certainly was the goal at the time.
All (well, a lot of) guitar sound seems to be about that; Valve amplifiers? Distortion and fuzz being staples on a board.
Most of guitar music is at the opposite end of High Fidelity.
EDIT: To clarify, that is a part of the whole thing that I value highly in a world that focusses so much on a verbatim transmission of perceived ideals.
Option paralysis is , indeed, a substantial bane in most creative endeavors.When you combine the initial learning curve with the time and effort it takes in" hands on" modes,(though most of us are more than passingly familiar in our daily lives with scrolling endless menus), - it is not unlikely to acheive a dead stop.Personally, not only am I not experienced with complex programs, but I've also found them largely detrimental to my specific purposes .A DD7 and Ditto looper are about as much as I might successfully incorporate, with the EHX Freeze being about my natural speed.Like Clint said , so long ago,- " A man's got to know his limitations"...
Thanks, guys! This was great! ...great! ...reat! ..eat! ...at! ...t! ...!
Took me a bit and then it made me chuckle :)
I would love to see an avantgarde gear challenge, bit crushers, ringmodulators, step-filters, etc. I would find it very interesting to see someone that understands gear on your level, make sense of effects like that.
That Collings tho. Never ceases to amaze me what that thing can do. All the loves.
Amen
I’ve done this about 40 years and delay is still the hardest effect thing for me to get right.
TheBigGuppy yes. It can be tricksy.
Same. I've been around the block many times and I keep coming back to:
One good, dedicated analog delay like a Maxon AD-9 pro, DM-2, etc
One fairly comprehensive digital delay, or a simple but high-end digital delay (eg Source Audio Nemesis/T-Rex Replica, respectively)
Two. You always need two. It's like the Sith.
@@mattgilbert7347 minimum of 2 (pedals or presets depending on your setup) : )
I know this episode is 4 years old now, but I find myself a couple times a month coming back to it for this beautiful intro. Mick, you are such a beautifully expressive musician. Your approach to the guitar has done so much for my playing ability as well as my spirit. Dan, you’re also a great musician, and a soul that visibly is madly in love with music. I watch you get lost in the moment, which is genuinely precious to witness! This intro and the fuzz episode intro almost always brings me to tears. I am truly inspired by the work you both do! I hope you guys see this comment so you can understand how much your passion for new musical creation has helped me through some very difficult days. What a wonderful gift it is to be able to make music!!! Thank you to TPS in the most sincere way!
Oh mate, that’s so great, thank you so much 🤓🙏
Phew. Escaped this one without _needing_ to spend any more money. Got the DD-200 last month....
I'm thinking about getting a BOSS DD 200 so far how do you like it
@@squirelova1815 What?
I love the pedals all over the floor. You should always do that. It’s like Christmas morning.
After emulated 'Irish band': 'If that's the kind of thing you're looking for...' Not sure if that was deliberate but, regardless, I chuckled.
It wasn’t... we should pretend it was. That would have been very clever!
Can I just say Delay Llama Extreme is an amazingly witty name for a delay pedal
Boss DD-500 ended my search. So many choices & options with deep-dive editing, tweaking & customization. Learned alot from watching "Countless Hours" of TPS, to get my Delay patches right. Thanks guys.
For others looking for delay pedals, make sure you check out source audio nemesis delay. It's amazing.
I found this channel yesterday.... have watched around 7hrs of content since. Considering I worked a 14hr shift in that time I’d say that’s about 79% of my spare time. Yet I’ve managed to only buy one pedal in that time. Incredible channel!! Honest and thorough. Amazing content boys!! Also a MASSIVE fan of the fact you timeline you videos in the description. Has allowed me to scan through into the bits I really need and slip through the bits I already know about or don’t necessarily need. Love your work.
In 1986 I had my Digitech PDS-2000 and it was my pride and joy. I also had the DOD FX-55 Distortion and two Arion Japan modulation pedals: the chorus and the phaser. I was full of myself with these, as pedals were not nearly as available as we see today.
It took me a decade to understand why i needed this delay and what i could do with it. Without having it demonstrated or being able to just watch a video on it, i had no idea how many ways delay could be used and how many sounds require it. I have 3 delay's on my board now and have one on all the time. I still own these pedals and still use several of them.
Chuckled to myself when Mick said only two things to worry about repeats and delays and then leans down and twiddles 8 or ten different knobs on the DD200. _Very_ interesting video. Thanks.
I ordered a cheap one on ebay but it took three months to arrive. Apparently there was a delay in in the post.
Yes. Nice.
Great recommendation on the DD 200 as a starting point for delay. I picked one up over the holidays and have loved the versatility it offers. The tape and drum modes are really well done - great if you want to start exploring multi-head delays with all those cool rhythmic repeats. Just enough knobs and options to tailor your sound without needing to constantly refer back to the manual
This video, could not have come at a better time. Early in 2019, I made the switch from a multi effects unit to pedals (that's TPS's fault btw). I'm one of the guys Mick spoke about. I figured I'd need a delay and bought a boss DD7. I've barely used it, the repeats are too clean for me. I'm now desperate to try more ambient delays and this vid helped a ton. Thank you chaps, as always, informative, educational and entertaining. All the best.
Delay Llama is an epic name for a pedal. I love that punsters can still get paid work in this day and age. I've spent 20 minutes trying to come up with a good one to use in this comment but I literally give you one.
I've lost count on how many delay related videos you have created, but I never get tired of watching them. The pedal selection has quite changed and expanded from the past videos over the time, also in versatility.
Essentially this communicates to me maybe about the renaissance of delay. Especially the colored, full of character delay. Some years back you got some standard delays like digital and some classic analog ones. Carbon copy came out and stole the show. Now you have room filled with stuff like the actual tape boxes rereleased or reinvented, echoplex simulator, multiple record head simulated, analog with digital controls and modulation, digital delays that model all kinds of delays and do very creative tricks. Flashback being not the least.
I have to consider this in bigger perspective too and see how the pedal industry might be richer than ever (by no means my own idea, I think you've voiced it out loud before too). There are plenty of DIFFERENT options with everything, all kinds of units coming out from classic and legendary to industry standard tools, work horses, to creative and totally utopistic inventions. Such a lovely time to be a guitarist.
And it warms my heart, because now I love delay and would most of the time have delay always on. Despite the fact that the first times I tried delays it was a disgusting mess that sounded nasty and disorienting. Yup, I had the same experience as Mick, digital delay being the only available type on modelling or multi effects units. It has its uses but only now I can think of delay without sneering and I've learned of all the beautiful ways of how it can enrich your tone. Today delay is my instant second choice of pedals after all the things that make distorted noise, from boosters to drives etc. It creates tone and character, not just ear puncturing copy repeats. Thanks guys.
This was a good format. Kudos.
Things I know about delay:
* If tempo is critical to your delay setting in a song, it will never be right during the song at the gig.
* Sometimes Tap tempo doesn’t set the right tempo. Likely user error, but at the gig “things occur.”
* Changes to effect level will have to be made to suit your venue.
* Speaker mic compression at the sound board will change your delay levels in the monitor mix.
* Playing bone dry is harder than having some delay
* Delays give you magic moments. Synergy: sometimes you kick in a delay and the sum of the parts is greater than the whole.
One good compromise is to get a TC Flashback Mini to go along with a core delay. For $60 used it will give you access to the whole TC library, which is awesome. To me the 2200 is the best sounding digital delay ever, and there is tons more in a little pedal. When I just want another flavor for one song it’s perfect.
Came for the delay, stayed for the Shanks- OD. Man, that thing sounds soooooooooooo good.
I would love to see you guys get Tosin Abasi on your show. He’s big into pedals and plays so many styles. I could see you 3 having a blast of a time together.
Sorry guys! Got a bit delayed watching this one... (cue groans)... but... it has given me the chance to read all the comments 1st and it's obvious you guys really have helped many people choose which delay pedal is right for them. This is succinctly noted with quite a few viewers stating - almost with sighs of relief - that the solution to their particular requirement is simply a single MXR Carbon Copy (or similar) and can detect an almost 'light bulb switching on' moment for them.
That is why this channel really exists! Superb job well done!
Absolutely agree ... going to replace my old digital delay with an MRX Carbon Cody today!
The Collings sounds great with the shanks OD, really clear and focused sound.
I got to say I look so forward to your show. I’ve been battling a state of depression and watching your show takes a lot off my mind for a while. You guys have a very uplifting spirit that makes me feel good. Thanks for all the info and I hope you guys are blessed through the new year.....
All best to you Kevin. Dan and I both grapple with the black dog from time to time. Glad we can be of some use!
Really interesting to read interviews with the Edge when he moved from the Memory Man (Boy, October & War) to the Korg SDD-3000 digital delay (Unforgettable Fire) and how he had to change his playing style. Compare 'I Will Follow' to 'Bad' to hear the difference.
I wholeheartedly prefer the overall tones and songs of earlier U2, and I think a lot of that has to do with the quirks of the Memory Man, especially since it was more or less the only pedal they had (outside of a drive, which doesn't really count).
Why did he stop using memory man?
The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town....As an old geezer that's used every delay under the sun (feels that way) including having owned from EP-3's and RE-201's to Timelines and Echorecs I am thrilled that I actually have more to learn!!!! Great great show. Mick, one comment quip. I am a MIDI monster and can make it do anything. This vid was absolutely for me!!!! You guys rock.
Great job as always, gents.
I started out only wanting digital delay, and over time I've gradually become much more interested in analog and tape style sounds.
This Show in particular has shown me what those sounds can *really* do and how to make the most of them, in a way that I never discovered in my formative guitar years.
Many many thanks for your continued service to tone, and for the efforts you go to in order to help wee guitar chaps like me.
👍
Hey guys, my giddy aunt, I have just learnt about analog delay, I shunned it because it was too dark, but, with my drive it sounds mega. Dan and mic I have been watching for years and you guys are now like my family, awesome dudes
And you ours David. Thank you for watching!
Loved this!!!!
Wow, my story is EXACTLY the same as Mick's. I bought a Boss DD3 years and years ago. Because guitarists are supposed to have a delay pedal, right? I absolutely HATED it! An exact facsimile of what I'd just played coming back at me. NO, just NO! It went straight on eBay.
Fast forward a good few years; That Pedal Show comes into my life. I again decide to dip my toe into the world of delay. But this time I'm a little more cautious, I buy the Mooer Ana for £50.....
I now own the Strymon Brigadier and I absolutely love it. It's beautiful textural repeats that never get in the way, wonderful!
Thanks guys :-)
Nice one Gary! Good to hear from you geezer. Mick here.
This is so strange. I haven't been to this channel in ages and was just thinking..... I wonder if Dan and Mick have a new video about delay pedals. Wow, it's the most recent post. I'm in the market for a new delay, so this is perfect timing guys! (no pun intended).
I’m officially addicted to TPS.
We all are. Isn't it Great.
Welcome. :)
This is one of your best show imo. I mean, your shows are always entertaining and informative, but this one is so well written and exhaustive it feels necessary. Delay has been my "next gear purchase" for a long time and I find it very difficult to get a clear idea of what I need and what is best for my guitar playing. Sometimes it's pleasant to see a content that covers the basics in context in a way most of us will find it useful. The same way the show about "the right overdrive" had me finally achieving this endless quest and realize all I needed was a Boss BD-2.
TC Electronic Flashback 2 introduced me to a wider range of delays. Now I have a Strymon Volante and it’s nuts!
I can’t remember if it was this episode or the reverb one, but Dan showed a stereo hack if you have only 1 amp...wiring it back on itself. Well, I just did that with my digitech obscura delay into my polara reverb and then wired it back to the delay again. HOLY shit guys. Absolutely amazing!
Even though I’ve become really competent with everything you mention in this video,(Thanks to you) you definitely were asking the right questions here. Fantastic content.
A classic TPS video! Thank you for presenting a potentially complicated subject in a simple, easy to understand format. Great job!
I think the tc flashback 2 should had been displayed here since it can do many things (like stereo ping pong, reverse, etc) and its fairly simple yo use and affordable. Another one is the eqd avalanche run
I've had the original Flashback x4, and I keep coming back to it, because it's so easy to use live. I might trade for a new one, and I say that having owned a Timeline.
Just want to take a second to say that the show notes for this channel are unparalleled.
Thank you!
@@ThatPedalShow Yes, I second this. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to do them!
I love my Flashback II, simple to use, 3 presets (editable toneprints),
analog dry through, and i use it in stereo. My favourite delays in it are
reverse and my two tape presets, one is fairly clean but modulated and second one
is the tape age set to the max, ofcourse all in stereo, i guest kinda impossible
with non digital hardware.
And i won't even start about the mash feature wich is absolutely fantastic..
Dan briefly stroking the tape delay like a cherished family pet was a moment in this week's vid I could really relate to.
It's important to understand the two ways to alter the delay time. You can alter the number of steps before you play it back (akin to moving the head on the EP3, and what most digital devices do) or you can alter the sample rate (akin to changing the tape motor speed on the EP3, and what bucket brigade devices do). The former only affects playback, the latter also affects recording speed. No one other than me cares about this, but it makes a difference. Seriously.
As you might guess, the Catalinbread Echorec is my fav delay pedal ever. It is pure magic. As you guys discuss, what really makes this and a few other pedals shine is the preamp. It's not just about the sound of the repeats, or the functions and modes- it's those special pedals- like my old memory man- that when you step on it your sound changes- it gets bigger, fatter- more energetic- what have you. Many companies - like strymon, TC, Eventide etc- make great sounding digital modeling delays- but only a few companies integrate a preamp into their pedals- and it's this preamp that gives a few pedals that special something- where you step on it and it's more than just "repeats". Catalinbread have been doing this for years with the Echorec and the incredible Belle epoch (old ones and the new deluxe line)- killer stuff. Anyway- a fun follow up to this could explore more esoteric delays and or esoteric sounds. My favorite part of this video was the weird pitch warping you guys did with the new JAM pedal. A deeper dive into that sort of territory would be really fun! Thanks guys- great show!
A friend of mine nicknamed me 'the man with more delays than a privatised bus company' more than 25 years ago.
I still own quite a few of 'em. :-P Most of them analog.
I personally love the 'analog' sound, with the usual decay, but my EHX Canyon performs great as well (awesome number of options), and the small form factor does a lot of good as well. Basically I use but 1 setting, tape delay. That's quite enough for me.
This 'narrowing down' of options and possibilities is a good start for anyone still looking for one! ;-)
What one is your fav?
After watching your episode with Devin Townsend I knew I needed the ocean machine. I love all the crazy sounds it can do that other delays can't. Picking the right delay is just as critical as the right drive pedal.
Another great video that will look at second or even a third time again. Delay if just such a fun effect.
I had always dialed a "dotted 8th" slightly modulated, then just adjusted the amount of mix depending on the need for always on or loud and rhythmic. Followed by a small amount of amp reverb. 20 years that was great. Since this show and Pedal companies going nuts, I have upgraded to Source Audio delay/reverb and working with a few preset sounds for application. I love my old BBD but times have changed and there is more than ever at our finger tips now, and we can still keep it simple sir!
Mick: "I know nothing bout delay" . 3 minutes later teaches everything about delays
Hahaha. Blame Dan for that. I used to know nothing about delays.
Great job then Dan. I learned more from Mick just now on delay then in the years I have been trying to learn to play.
Classic “Dan”. Always teaching us things!
3 minutes? That's a lot of milliseconds on the delay. I don't think any go that long
I got a Way Huge Supa Puss about this time last year for something primarily analog with modulation that could also be very tonally sculpt-able and include tap tempo and subdivisions. I have been loving it since! I dont use it too very often but when I hear delay on an idea in my head its my go to! It will probably live on my board for a very long time!
I always come back to my Carbon Copy. I just like the tone and simplicity.
So easy to live with. Doesn’t get in the way. Nice one Mark!
A timely video for me, with echoes of Mick's comments on not 'getting' delay and option paralysis. I've been working through the different types on a Line6 M5 struggling to get many of them to sit right, and this video has helped get things into focus and I have just picked up a secondhand Foxgear Echosex Baby. Thanks.
"You need a digital delay for longer delay"
* DOD Rubberneck has entered chat.
The rubberneck is a bit of a hybrid though.
@@GuitarGodgt what's hybrid about it?
@@otherGuise There are digital aspects to it, hence why it has tap tempo. It is an analog delay, but all the other add on stuff is digital in nature.
The digtail aspects have nothing to do with its extra long delay time though. it just has more BBD chips to extend the time.
@@GuitarGodgt Nope, fully analog, just digitally controlled. I have it. Great sounding pedal for the money.
Priceless video. I'm a delay and reverb junky (5 delays and 5 reverbs on my board). Excellent work, you guys. Thanks for posting!
The DD-200 is a complete homerun for Boss, I've bought it twice: first for my bassboard, when the MXR Echoplex died on me, liked it so much, got a 2nd for my small guitar board.
Btw: with the new update, its 127+1 presets instead of the 4+1.
Even before the update, it check all my boxes. Now with the update to 127 presets, it's all I could ever ask for.
Do you use the Midi on your DD-200?
@@PhillipTracey I do. It is on a board with a ehx super switcher controlling the delay presets and tap tempo. I have the tap button set to do the warp thing.
Splendid idea boys. The tuner show helped me pick my current tuner. So happy you did this for a product with even more options!
Killer tone with that collings mick! Side note: i'd love to see you guys try out the DOD Rubberneck. I think Dan would love it.
Yes, please do the Rubberneck.
Agree on the Collings tone today. Sounded great to my ear. That Shanks OD was a part of it, I think
I LOVE my rubber neck. Been through a lot of delays and this one has stayed a long time.
Got one and its loooovely!!
Seconded, been waiting for ages for it to be in TPS, can imagine Dan absolutely loving it
This is bizarre but I was just about to do a CZcams search to figure out what type of delay I should get, refreshed the page, and here we are.
Loving my FoxGear EchoSex Baby, lovely sound, small box.
On the topic of slapback delay in country and rockabilly: I picked up my best tips for slapback delay from a video of Danny Gatton, who used a Boss DD-2, one repeat, delay set roughly equal in volume to the guitar’s original signal. It’s almost obnoxious by itself, but it really works much better for slapback to use a bright, clear, loud delay in a band context.
Dave here...hello. Matt Schofield called, he wants to know where his "honk" is.
Very useful show guys, many thanks! I’ve been on a delay journey the last year or so, since hearing you guys playing a Belle Epoch and being sure it was what I needed. I’ve since gone through 5 different delays and am now back at square 1, realising that I never asked what I needed it for! I’ve been thinking of pulling the trigger on a Boss DD200 as it indeed looks a great entry point and highly useable. I’m now convinced
I use a really short delay on my “dry” amp to give a feel of separation between the amps, which would usually be right beside each other.
Already was on board the Carbon Copy train, but saw a good deal on a Belle Epoch Deluxe and picked one up. It's freaking inspirational!
Don't forget analogue dry through which can be very important for some when using digital delays 👍
Not just very important. Absolutely and totally essential to us. Cheers!
Great show! You broke down the analysis we all struggle with, and if you played in multiple bands over multiple years (a 40 year vet here) you been thru a number of them. My current delays are an “always on” carbon copy, with a Source Audio nemesis to handle more creative choices.
Erm, you left an 's' off the end of 'pedal''.
Hahaha!!! Too true!
Yep.
No, it's a typo, the real name of the programme is "That Pedals How". ;)
@Gemma Seymour - I've noticed some of your other comments, and you are so darn clever! I hope you've chosen a partner that can keep up (put up?) with you! 😉
Thanks guys, this was super helpful! I'm a very experienced player that's just learning about delay after all these years. This really helped!
Hi Dan & Mick, Excellent Show 👍👍👍.
I love Delay, David Gilmour was the Artist the got me hooked after buying The Wall album.
My first Delay was a Boss DD3, very articulate, many years later the T-Rex Reptile 2 which is amazing, then a Carbon Copy which for me has such Character.
Dan you were on fire at 57:20 👍.
Take care, to you Both♥️👍.
Melbourne, Australia.
I am loving these episodes. It is crazy useful to go into this much depth and see how it would fit in different situations. And using the pedals outside the intended purpose
A great education again, guys. I think you've helped me decide on the upgrade to my first delay, though it wasn't on your board. I have to be pretty budget conscious, so I think a used Flashback is going to be it. Seems like all the options an at-home player like me needs. Thanks for all the insight of experience, guys. It really does help.
Makes a HUGE amount of sense. Tone Print is superb.
Dan’s goofy grin in the Zvex Wah Probe reflection is CLASSIC
THE DARK REPEATS sounds like a particularly nasty stricture of the bowel....as in "Dan had to burn the bed sheets after the lamb vindaloo brought on an apocalyptic attack of the DARK REPEATS in the night"
Probably the best TPS episode I've watched. Well thought out, logical and informative. Plus it made me realise (by pure luck) that I'd made the right choice in owning a Seymour Duncan Vapour Trail - it's everything I need with nothing I don't!
I've got or have owned delays by Boss, Strymon, Wampler, Catalinbread, TC... my board only has a Carbon Copy on it. Just works for me.
Back to the roots! Delay pedals are a particular addiction for me, and years-ago TPS episodes about them got me watching and thinking, "Damn, these guitar things are cool!"
Its fricking friday guys!
Mick's playing/tone at 1:00 in was just awesome
Had to pick up my guitar and learn those licks
Thanks for the inspiration guys!
🤣😂 “lets start with a simple delay.......” so choose one which takes a minute to adjust 6 parameters to get a basic delay.........when you have a Carbon Copy right next to it! 🤪🤣 Nice one! Jesting aside...........you guys make the BEST informative vids out there.......hugely entertaining into the bargain! 😎👍
Man I could watch this show again, and again, and again .........and again :-)
Hahahah!!!
The best delay pedal is the one that looks the best on your board. I chose the Digitech Obscura because I severely needed a yellow pedal
That opening intro has seriously inspired me. Amazing playing man. Off to go buy a delay .
Actually
Can you guys get Ed Wynne on??
From Ozric Tentacles!!!!
He is the reason I got a delay pedal ...........early 90s??
Genuinely the best use of a wah probe I've ever seen. Bravo, Dan!
Hey guys, picked up my Alter Ego x4 thanks to you. It's a great combo of easy-dial presets with the toneprint slots that certainly satisfy my need to get under the hood. My old Digitech is now also back in the chain in front of my gain stages. Heard that one somewhere recently too... Quick question, what difference does the impedance of the pot make in an expression pedal?
Delays are dangerously addictive!! Cant stop exploring and enjoying new ones. Love it! I just had some quality time w/d/w with a sdd3000 pedal and then I find this episode😍 Epic friday, cheers guys
That is such a great delay!
Spoiler alert. They don't turn them all on at once🙁
This is the true tragedy of an otherwise supremely educational video.
For a long time, I thought that I should use only one delay. No idea why. After watching your vids, I realized that there’s no reason why I couldn’t use two.
Now there’s two delays on my board: one dark analog and one digital that does a lot of things. The analog is on most of the time, but the digital one can do some things that are very specific.
HOORAY!
Diamond memory lane 2 is still the king
I always find myself clicking the thumbs up button within the first 60s........ Could be a players vlog as well! Great show. Thanks.
“Even betterer in 5.1”
I thinks it's really great that both of you have different styles and mind sets on what you like with your playing and what sounds you like, and of course you meet in the middle at times to. But it really makes for a great show.
I have purchased the wrong delay, life is no longer worth living living living
At about 26 mins into this, my epiphany moment occurs. What I’ve been missing, that crucial element lacking in my playing and performing, is ................... someone who knows what they’re doing setting the controls on the pedals on the floor. And possibly also on the amp ....and ideally, also fretting/picking the strings .. Right-oh guys, thanks for that, I’m all set now ...