This is an amazing scene. These men know each other well enough that Steiner can issue a five-paragraph order with his eyes and a couple of quick nods of the head. The men who have the skills to deal with the sentries know who they are; not a word need be spoken. The soldier who just *appears* behind the sentry at 1:12 is *straight out* of The Teutobergerwald in the First Century, when German barbarian tribesmen fought the Romans, and utterly destroyed three Roman legions. I had heard that the Cherusci used to do this same thing to the Romans in the middle of the night. All you'd see is a pair of eyes right behind you, then you were done for. The slow motion time-dilation. I've seen this film several times; this scene is brilliant.
@@RobinSchoutenRS WOW !! That’s better than getting an OSCAR….. Yes this epic piece of cinema is a true masterpiece in every sense of the film maker who had the balls to make it.
Well saw it in Ft Worth, Texas on the big screen while in Flight school all those years ago. To this day it's maybe the best work James Colburn ever did. And he has a good body of work. Sam Peckinpah ran out of money making this one and had to cut some corner. Never the less its a fine movie. Gee's I was 21 years old then.
George, did they include the god awful scene where the russian women were swimming in the river, and were captured? I've never seen it since with that scene included. I was allowed to go with my parents and they were shocked, but the old man let me stay.
Knute did they include the scene where the russian women were bathing in the river and were captured, at the beginning of the movie, when you saw it? Cuz it was as graphic as can be, that scene.
Oh but you cut it too short... the real magic happens at the end of this scene, when the little russian captive boy starts playing ”Stenka Razin” on his harmonica. That is, if I may, what gives this scene it’s real depth. The contrast to the violence is heartbreaking.
How many times have I watched this film, first from the 80's and then ever since I bought the DVD years ago? Dunno ... loads! This scene is, IMHO, one of the most intense and thought-provoking scenes - and openings - of any film. Silent, breath-holding assassination in a resting forest, followed by explosive, total elimination of a once-close band of brothers. Life becomes death in a mere turn of breeze. Horrifically stunning!!!
@jertopp1698 it's actually true and that's a common mistake in movies. Empty magazines aren't thrown away like garbage. They're absolutely necessary equipment for a soldier and not easily replaceable once lost. Supplies are very difficult to transport to the front. Valuable items like that aren't just thrown away.
Excellent! Originally in English, dubbed in German, and then with Russian dubbed over that X) Great scene, though - thanks! Brought back memories of one GREAT film!
Onhan tää hyvä leffa ei siinä mitään!!.. good war movie.. seeing couple times but "kolmaskerta toden sanoo" niinku vanha suomalainen sananlasku sen sanoo!.🙂💀🇫🇮
The best feature of "Private Ryan" was right at the beginning with the very accurate re-creation of the Omaha Beach landing. Had the Germans been better informed about and prepared for D-Day, then all five invasion beaches might have turned into similar, or even worse bloodbaths. Maybe it was a closer run thing than what popular history would care to admit, and there is a hint of this idea all through the film, despite the dominance of heroic stuff. I also liked "Patton"for its accurate depiction of the crazy, unmanageable, but extremely effective General.
I was having flashbacks in the theater when I saw it 20 some years ago. I was seeing/feeling the injury all over again, even if what happened to me was in 1979 and not in 1944.
A radical film for its time, and remains a disturbing view of the Eastern Front "meat grinder". Sam Peckinpah outdid even Sergio Leone in his close attention to detail in uniforms, weapons, and sets. Not until "Private Ryan" did we get another such bleakly accurate depiction of infantry war.
Yeah, Cross of Iron is much better than SPR and for me A bridge too far is also better...Americans always throw in so much propaganda and melodrama about themselves, as they only suffer ...
How do you know, you've never been in a war. Its a fantasy of war where a dozen soldiers are going around doing what they want, no orders, no objectives and no command structure.
Good film. And good acting. The only flaw (at costumes level) is that the Soviet soldiers are wearing Italian helmets of M33 type, instead of Soviet helmets type SSh39 or SSh40.
I saw the original release in summer 1977, my parents let me see it. And I snuck in a 2nd time to see it. Now I swear there are many scenes that have been cut from this film that were shown back then. There was a scene towards the 1st 1/4 of the film where russian women (i believe they were depicted as soldiers) were captured bathing in a stream. Does anyone remember this? It was an awful scene. If anyone remembers, you don't have to go into detail, because you knw what I'm talking about. It was as bad as any movie could have and took it to another level of debasing of humanity. Does anyone remember the scene I'm talking about? I'm 55 now. I was very young to see that movie. Too young for it. But I thought it was the most realistic war film I'd ever seen up to that time. The version I see now sometimes doesnt even resemble what I remember.
Yes it's gone. You remember what I'm talking about Chester? Wow, that was a shocker for me. I'm really surprised they let that stuff show in a movie theater in the mid 70s. There were other scenes that have been removed involving combat with an mp40 while they retreated. Even the ending seems different than what I recall. But that earlier scene with the women bathing and then what happens after took it to another level, and then another level at the end of the scene. It was shocking, but effective for one to understand the total immorality of war. Total. Sam Peckinpah was the man that was capable of bringing that home.
kev mcdevin Yes I am thinking about it now time to die with dignity plus Australia is a country on the slide. Wonder if the old house is empty ha ha ha
Mr Mugabe is helping many white settlers die with dignity. You should return there and see if you can get some acclaim for repressing all the black folk in Zimbabwe.
That scene made me think of film Saving Private Ryan when they attacked the mg lineup. the exact opposite. and the real Army Rangers where you can expect more professionalism. on the other hand in Cross of Iron these are completely normal soldiers who have been through a lot of shit. a well made film in which nan can put himself into it. if you consider that our grandfathers in russia are true.
Joseph Rogers, you'll enjoy the scene where the German lads come across some Russian women soldiers, if it's still included; it usually gets edited when shown on tv.
@Floyd Vaughn check out the author sven hassle. I think some of the titles were - March Battalion, monte cassino, O.G.P.U prison. And there was a film made starring oliver reed i recall, cant remember title. I was just saying the set of characters from cross of iron were similar to the characters in sven hassles series of books. Check out the books, they are a good read and yes, the unit was the 27th penal panzer regt.
@Floyd Vaughn no, i havent to be honest, i will look up the author, thank you. Google sven hassle.. Bit of a colourful character to say the least. Also there's a book by guy sagar, cant remember title but he was from alsace Lorraine and conscripted into the german army when germany annexed it then after the war, when alsace Lorraine was annexed back into france, he was labelled a traitor and outcast
@mikethebassguy I think you are a troll, but I cannot help replying :p The political spectrum is not based on big or small government policy; it is idealogy--progress versus conservation.
Neither side had the luxury. Both Hitler and Stalin was hellbent on using whatever was necessary to win and as long as they were in charge nothing was going to change. However I'd say most Soviets (not only Russians) fought for their homeland and to drive out the foreign invaders who had attacked them first. Any other country would have done the same if invaded by a foreign force.
@vonRass 2. On the political spectrum i look at one simple thing, Goverment control. In both communism and nazism you have total goverment power putting them both on the extreme right. While the other extreme is anarchy which often leads to the later. I myself am a libertarian which would pretty much make us enemies in the world of "relocation and labor camps"
Без помощи Америки Россия проиграла бы. Американцы снабдили Россию материалами сотни тысяч кораблей! Армиям всех мировых держав понадобилось победить вермахт. Россия или Америка в одиночку, никогда бы не смогли сделать это!
@vonRass Reading some of your comments im just trying to figure out your angle... With all respect given answer the following questions: Are you a communist or Nazi? Do you believe that the holocaust actually did not happen? What is your view of the Nazi treatment of Jews and Russian POWs? Now remember before you start arguing that i'm simply trying to see what you believe...
@biggrigga I disagree... because still at that point fascism would still be to the left for the simple fact it wants to create an empire brining progress to its own imperial aspects.
Yes if anyone invaded my country and were as bad as the Nazis were to the Russians(not just the SS were behind this the Wehrmacht had a hand to play in atrocities) i would fight them tooth and nail but the Russians hated Stalin and his gang especially over the seizure of farms which caused 10 million people to starve to death and i always wondered why would Russians fight so hard for a government they hated? if Hitler had any sense at all he would have encouraged a coup in Russia
@biggrigga lol whatever man, im just for little goverment, call me whatever, If i had my way thered be no goverment, i do my thing you do yours, stay out of my way i do the same etc lifestyle, the day some1 forces their beliefs on me is the day they get hurt.
If so how come they lost the war?? I seem to remember reading that the Russians got to space first, without the use of the German rocket scientists the Americans had (like Werner von Braun).
One of the best war movies ever made. James Coburn said it was his best role ever.
I saw this in the theatre in 1977. Another great film by Sam Peckinpah.
The slow motion scenes are incredible ...
Steiner throwing the MP40 magazine like if it was a regular daybases ...
Trademark of all Sam Peckinpah films
The slow motion stuff was Peckinpah's trademark.
in reality, he would put it in his pack to load up later
That is correct.
This is an amazing scene. These men know each other well enough that Steiner can issue a five-paragraph order with his eyes and a couple of quick nods of the head. The men who have the skills to deal with the sentries know who they are; not a word need be spoken. The soldier who just *appears* behind the sentry at 1:12 is *straight out* of The Teutobergerwald in the First Century, when German barbarian tribesmen fought the Romans, and utterly destroyed three Roman legions. I had heard that the Cherusci used to do this same thing to the Romans in the middle of the night. All you'd see is a pair of eyes right behind you, then you were done for. The slow motion time-dilation. I've seen this film several times; this scene is brilliant.
slow is smooth and smooth is fast
Never get films like them again, or acters 👌
That slow motion reload shot though
My favorite WW2 movie of all times.
I have this film in my library. Viddied it double digit times. Love it.
I saw as a kid super tough movie I had s lot of uncles back then that had fought in that war great movie 👍👍
The combat photography of this film is excellent.
I was 12 when I watched this!!!
Such a brilliant anti war films, Sam Peckinpah was a genius filmmaker, he redefined cinema with The Wild Bunch.
Orson Welles sent Peckinpah a telegram to congratulate him with Cross of Iron and called it the best anti war movie ever made.
@@RobinSchoutenRS WOW !! That’s better than getting an OSCAR….. Yes this epic piece of cinema is a true masterpiece in every sense of the film maker who had the balls to make it.
One of the greatest films of all time.
I agree
Sam with his incredible way to record the action.
Will be totally missed. He had great influense on action director John Woo too, can be seen on his hong kong movies.
Well saw it in Ft Worth, Texas on the big screen while in Flight school all those years ago. To this day it's maybe the best work James Colburn ever did. And he has a good body of work. Sam Peckinpah ran out of money making this one and had to cut some corner. Never the less its a fine movie. Gee's I was 21 years old then.
George, did they include the god awful scene where the russian women were swimming in the river, and were captured? I've never seen it since with that scene included. I was allowed to go with my parents and they were shocked, but the old man let me stay.
now that's quality dubbing........
When I first saw this over 40 years ago, I remember thinking, "Pick up the magazine, Feldwebel, you never know when they'll become scarce."
I wonder what the 70s - 80s were like
@@bbh08tvgaming66 it was a great era... specially the 80s
Knute did they include the scene where the russian women were bathing in the river and were captured, at the beginning of the movie, when you saw it? Cuz it was as graphic as can be, that scene.
Love this film! 'let me take you where the iron crosses grow!' lol!
Tey dawn i will show you how a true Prussian fights and I will show you where the iron crosses grow
Ironically there's a recently published history book on the Battle for the Crimea; it's title is 'Where the Iron Crosses Grow'.
Getting this movie on Blu-ray soon!🙂🔫🔫💥💥🏔️🇩🇪🇷🇺
Oh but you cut it too short... the real magic happens at the end of this scene, when the little russian captive boy starts playing ”Stenka Razin” on his harmonica. That is, if I may, what gives this scene it’s real depth. The contrast to the violence is heartbreaking.
Amazing!
How many times have I watched this film, first from the 80's and then ever since I bought the DVD years ago? Dunno ... loads! This scene is, IMHO, one of the most intense and thought-provoking scenes - and openings - of any film. Silent, breath-holding assassination in a resting forest, followed by explosive, total elimination of a once-close band of brothers. Life becomes death in a mere turn of breeze. Horrifically stunning!!!
It's some disgusting - you absolutely don't know Russia.
What a one of the best war movie in this World like Cross of Iron !
Vastly underrated war movie. Better than the modern ones, like the Big Red One which shows war as it is.
A true classic war film. Read the book after watching this film. The story is amazing.
Willie Heinrich "The Cross Of Iron"...great book...he was a vet
@@greasyflight6609 The Willing Flesh
@@chestermosburger3113 Were all flesh...some are sheep some are wolves
Masterpiece, perfectly executed assault by recon platoon portrayed by master director.
Go back to gaming, you have no idea what you're talking about.
10/4, will do.
One of my favourites this is
Steiner takes out his empty magazine and throws it on the ground, rubbish, you put it back in the pouch and reloaded it to re-use.
What's the point if you pick up an enemy weapon right after that...
@jertopp1698 it's actually true and that's a common mistake in movies. Empty magazines aren't thrown away like garbage. They're absolutely necessary equipment for a soldier and not easily replaceable once lost. Supplies are very difficult to transport to the front. Valuable items like that aren't just thrown away.
..Not when you're ATTACKING a position,..Later..on..yess.
They pick it up afterwards. What a useless little critique.
The detail is remarkable, right down to the machinegunner's cauliflower ear. Who thinks of that?
What do you mean by cauliflower ear?
Gut gemacht.
Excellent! Originally in English, dubbed in German, and then with Russian dubbed over that X) Great scene, though - thanks! Brought back memories of one GREAT film!
The trouble is that Lee Marvin and James Coburn were in fact one and the same which is the reason I get all his films mixed up.
Awesome movie.
The best sadism action director "SAM..." and also best actor.
Loved the series combat in the sixties as a kid
this reminds me of my military service
Una película icónica 👏👏👏👏👏👏💯💯💪🏽
Best war (anti war) film ever made.
It is a very good example. Also check out Castle Keep with Burt Lancaster, another anti war film with a surreal atmosphere.
What about come and see?
one of the best anti war films...
Onhan tää hyvä leffa ei siinä mitään!!.. good war movie.. seeing couple times but "kolmaskerta toden sanoo" niinku vanha suomalainen sananlasku sen sanoo!.🙂💀🇫🇮
Man that must be rough. Killing someone with a gun is one thing but to garrote or stab someone at bad breathe distance is something else,
its actually my favourite because it's done with cinematography with an englishman, directing and an american acting
The best feature of "Private Ryan" was right at the beginning with the very accurate re-creation of the Omaha Beach landing.
Had the Germans been better informed about and prepared for D-Day, then all five invasion beaches might have turned into similar, or even worse bloodbaths. Maybe it was a closer run thing than what popular history would care to admit, and there is a hint of this idea all through the film, despite the dominance of heroic stuff.
I also liked "Patton"for its accurate depiction of the crazy, unmanageable, but extremely effective General.
I was having flashbacks in the theater when I saw it 20 some years ago. I was seeing/feeling the injury all over again, even if what happened to me was in 1979 and not in 1944.
This film is very bleak and leaves you with a bitter taste. Nevertheless it is a true masterpiece. And visually it is Peckinpah's finest.
The Wild Bunch?
Grenadier on beans .......let’s not forget the Germans and Russians were allies and invaded Poland ..........
Grenadier on beans .........and Stalin killed how many of his own people??
That front WAS bleak!
Be careful of my JJ!
A radical film for its time, and remains a disturbing view of the Eastern Front "meat grinder". Sam Peckinpah outdid even Sergio Leone in his close attention to detail in uniforms, weapons, and sets. Not until "Private Ryan" did we get another such bleakly accurate depiction of infantry war.
True, and just a few months after SPR, "The thin red line" worked a better magic.
how can you possibly compare sam peckinpah's films to one like private ryan???
Yeah, Cross of Iron is much better than SPR and for me A bridge too far is also better...Americans always throw in so much propaganda and melodrama about themselves, as they only suffer ...
Private Ryan historicaly accurate ? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@nojoke1976
true that.. Saving Private Ryan was not true on many many accounts historically in terms of D-Day. I respect very much our troops
My favourite James coburn movie , though I must admit my favourite peck director movie is The wild bunch :-)
James coburn was awesome
Steiner is so nice that if you are the enemy he will cook you breakfast and then shoot you.
OLDER Corporal. Handsome. A Good German. Ja, gut.
Buena historia..deberian hacer un remake..
one of the most realistic war films ever.Based on a book series i beleive.
How do you know, you've never been in a war. Its a fantasy of war where a dozen soldiers are going around doing what they want, no orders, no objectives and no command structure.
@@snowflakemelter1172 A breakdown of Command...a breakdown of moral principles...a duel to try and survive...but then again...why would you want too?
It's based on a novel named "Das geduldige Fleisch" by Willi Heinrich.
I think the book is more realistic and overall better than the movie.
@@maltehenryk1409 books will always be better. And Heinrich was a veteran, I think...
Good film. And good acting.
The only flaw (at costumes level) is that the Soviet soldiers are wearing Italian helmets of M33 type, instead of Soviet helmets type SSh39 or SSh40.
sentries on the front line standing up and not paying attention is a massive flaw in realism
Peckinpah hated everyone, including himself. His vision was entirely misanthropic but he couldn't help but be a poet.
One quibble. Those mortars going off would be deafening.
The german translation of "good work" is better than the original english "good kill"
Is the idea from one of Sven Hassel's novels??
best war movie....
Что за фильм?
war movie...this it.
Brilliant and realistic film.
Thanks
(but the russian helmets seem to be italian)
I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow.
Cross's??
dunruden: That better?
I will show you the lron cross role.
Название фильма?
M33 helmets. So italians were sentries for the Red army mortar batteries back then.
Possibly Yugoslav army issue standing in for WW2 Red Army. The film was shot in Yugoslavia.
Time for a remake on the same level as todays war movie's.
Hell no.theyd never get it right. The book is all effed up as well
@@SJ-oo4yr Remember the book was out first!
Screenplay different from book!!
Good kill....
Sims it up nicely.
lets look at afgan its not over
I saw the original release in summer 1977, my parents let me see it. And I snuck in a 2nd time to see it. Now I swear there are many scenes that have been cut from this film that were shown back then. There was a scene towards the 1st 1/4 of the film where russian women (i believe they were depicted as soldiers) were captured bathing in a stream. Does anyone remember this? It was an awful scene. If anyone remembers, you don't have to go into detail, because you knw what I'm talking about. It was as bad as any movie could have and took it to another level of debasing of humanity. Does anyone remember the scene I'm talking about? I'm 55 now. I was very young to see that movie. Too young for it. But I thought it was the most realistic war film I'd ever seen up to that time. The version I see now sometimes doesnt even resemble what I remember.
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I also saw that scene too young- is it cut from the film now?????
Yes it's gone. You remember what I'm talking about Chester? Wow, that was a shocker for me. I'm really surprised they let that stuff show in a movie theater in the mid 70s. There were other scenes that have been removed involving combat with an mp40 while they retreated. Even the ending seems different than what I recall. But that earlier scene with the women bathing and then what happens after took it to another level, and then another level at the end of the scene. It was shocking, but effective for one to understand the total immorality of war. Total. Sam Peckinpah was the man that was capable of bringing that home.
Yes German soldiers fighting valiantly almost as valiantly as Rhodesian soldiers.
Mr Mugabe sends you his warmest regards
Not before Mr Mugabe has done that to all the white farmers still hanging on there !
But Mr Mugabe has done such a wonderful job with the country that I'm surprised you're not back there !
kev mcdevin
Yes I am thinking about it now time to die with dignity plus Australia is a country on the slide. Wonder if the old house is empty ha ha ha
Mr Mugabe is helping many white settlers die with dignity. You should return there and see if you can get some acclaim for repressing all the black folk in Zimbabwe.
We was so near Moscu at december 1941 what hapened why we losts?
Not the government
For the country itself
Cross of iron or Iron cross ?
Es una de las mejores peliculas de guerra de su epoca
🌺🥀🌺👍👍🙏
Fucked up war, great movie...
lets remember warterloo
Let's remember Waterloo.
That scene made me think of film Saving Private Ryan when they attacked the mg lineup. the exact opposite. and the real Army Rangers where you can expect more professionalism.
on the other hand in Cross of Iron these are completely normal soldiers who have been through a lot of shit. a well made film in which nan can put himself into it. if you consider that our grandfathers in russia are true.
Grande Alemania!!!
Never heard of it must ser
Joseph Rogers, you'll enjoy the scene where the German lads come across some Russian women soldiers, if it's still included; it usually gets edited when shown on tv.
Ive always thought the characters were loosely based on the characters from the author sven hassle series of books about the 27th penal panzer regt.
@Floyd Vaughn check out the author sven hassle. I think some of the titles were - March Battalion, monte cassino, O.G.P.U prison.
And there was a film made starring oliver reed i recall, cant remember title.
I was just saying the set of characters from cross of iron were similar to the characters in sven hassles series of books.
Check out the books, they are a good read and yes, the unit was the 27th penal panzer regt.
@Floyd Vaughn no, i havent to be honest, i will look up the author, thank you.
Google sven hassle.. Bit of a colourful character to say the least.
Also there's a book by guy sagar, cant remember title but he was from alsace Lorraine and conscripted into the german army when germany annexed it then after the war, when alsace Lorraine was annexed back into france, he was labelled a traitor and outcast
" Demarcacion"
Tropas de asalto de la whermacht amigos adios al nido de morteros sovietico😁😁😁😁😁
@mikethebassguy I think you are a troll, but I cannot help replying :p The political spectrum is not based on big or small government policy; it is idealogy--progress versus conservation.
Штайнер....
А вот как Гитлер отравился, когда советские войска брали Берлин фильм не оассказал.
all time war movie ww2.
Neither side had the luxury. Both Hitler and Stalin was hellbent on using whatever was necessary to win and as long as they were in charge nothing was going to change.
However I'd say most Soviets (not only Russians) fought for their homeland and to drive out the foreign invaders who had attacked them first. Any other country would have done the same if invaded by a foreign force.
@vonRass 2. On the political spectrum i look at one simple thing, Goverment control. In both communism and nazism you have total goverment power putting them both on the extreme right. While the other extreme is anarchy which often leads to the later. I myself am a libertarian which would pretty much make us enemies in the world of "relocation and labor camps"
I don’t think Stalin would like this :(
СССР раздавил Германию! Слава Русскому народу, освободителю!
Без помощи Америки Россия проиграла бы. Американцы снабдили Россию материалами сотни тысяч кораблей! Армиям всех мировых держав понадобилось победить вермахт. Россия или Америка в одиночку, никогда бы не смогли сделать это!
@@TheGnfnrs не снабдили, а продали за золото. Больше всего на ВОВ наварились американцы
Советскому Народу !!!! 20 миллионов жизней советских граждан !!!!
@vonRass Reading some of your comments im just trying to figure out your angle... With all respect given answer the following questions: Are you a communist or Nazi? Do you believe that the holocaust actually did not happen? What is your view of the Nazi treatment of Jews and Russian POWs? Now remember before you start arguing that i'm simply trying to see what you believe...
Shame that hollywood cant do any movie of eastern front from german side. You got always them as 100% bad guys totally
@biggrigga I disagree... because still at that point fascism would still be to the left for the simple fact it wants to create an empire brining progress to its own imperial aspects.
Yes if anyone invaded my country and were as bad as the Nazis were to the Russians(not just the SS were behind this the Wehrmacht had a hand to play in atrocities) i would fight them tooth and nail but the Russians hated Stalin and his gang especially over the seizure of farms which caused 10 million people to starve to death and i always wondered why would Russians fight so hard for a government they hated? if Hitler had any sense at all he would have encouraged a coup in Russia
GREAT SOLDIERS!!! WASTED FOR A WAR WITHOUT SENSE.... ;-(
the original caveman @ work
oh fuck its over
@biggrigga lol whatever man, im just for little goverment, call me whatever, If i had my way thered be no goverment, i do my thing you do yours, stay out of my way i do the same etc lifestyle, the day some1 forces their beliefs on me is the day they get hurt.
@biggrigga To the left = more goverment to the right = less so on the extreme right is anarchy to the extreme left is fascism
@mikethebassguy Anarchism eh? Sounds alright.
Get one for yourself... Steiner, Look a Russian fletcher. Just a baby
Which means you're American?
If so how come they lost the war??
I seem to remember reading that the Russians got to space first, without the use of the German rocket scientists the Americans had (like Werner von Braun).
Russian solger in American uniform))