2021 Honda Africa Twin In-Depth Review
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Honda had updated it's legendary Africa Twin for 2021 and in this one week long review I try and find out if after all these years, the Africa Twin still has it's Dakar Rally pedigree. And if it does, is that what we want in 2021.
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What do you think of the new Africa Twin?
Hmmm… let me think. I have bought one three months ago, so I obviously think it an ok motorcycle… 😎 BTW, I do not have any problems with vibrations. I do have the manual version however, maybe that makes a difference.
Try to drive it in urban mode, not in Touring. And vibration disappear. as you say the electronics is too much for you.
Vibrations may be due to fuel quality over there... it's a smooth engine, thats known about it. Bad luck!
Just purchased a 2020 standard DCT version, your review is bang on, very happy with the bike, short windscreen much nicer on the standard version. Still getting used to using the rear brake for slow speed manoeuvring.
@@TomReinerDE same here. have a 2021 MY Manual Transmission ATAS. no vibrations. this behaviour appears to be specific to the DCT.
Had a gs1200, Multistrada, Stelvio, Ktm990 and then a 2017 Africa.... and then another Africa... 2020 ADV. Next : I keep this one. This is how great it is.
Thank you sir. Just purchased AT 22
Owner of a 2021 Africa Twin MANUAL 6speed with Kappa Panniers, GIVI racks and SW-Motech Crash bars, RAM cell mount, CREE LED lights out front, Peg rubber delete, NO REAR upper case, Rear fender eliminator and currently sitting on 1900 miles! Hard riding in the Ocala Fl national forest with major sugar sand, Crazy mud holes and hella nasty technical areas. The bike is a beast. Period.
I have been riding all over past 34 years(riding years) in The deserts of Az and NV, the PNW of Washington and Oregon, Tennessee mountain's, Ohio Valleys and now all over Florida on alllll sorts of bikes. I've owned BMW, Triumph, Aprilla, Suzuki/Yamaha/Honda and even a few Buell's Nothing compares to the new Twin, NOTHING. It Pulls EXTREMELY hard off the line with smooth as butter throttle response and excellent clutch engagement(mine a manual). The brakes are on par with any super bike, The weight is there, but when you rip it as it feels like a 250cc dirtbike. Nimble, balanced and very well mannered. Balanced like a dang prop. The Settings take some getting use to and to turn OFF the baby sitter settings, you have to hold down the arrows till it zeros each one out...bam unlocked and ready to rock!
The bad?
ITS A BIG AZZ ADVENTURE BIKE, its going to be a pig in the deep stuff.. layed mine down in the sand a few times and not a scratch or scuff, back still works :)
The nanny modes are a little annoying and bit me a few times when I forgot to redo them after shutting the bike down..restart the process again..Takes about 20 seconds of your life to do...no spilled milk here. The carplay kicks off on its own sometimes(I think its my phone, its been wet a few times). The stock tires are GREAT on road but TERRIBLE in loose stuff...Get some dirt rubber if you intend on playing hard off the pavement, I ordered a set of Anakee wilds...badazz tires on my other dual sports. I do NOT baby my stuff and load it down pretty heavy as I like to go REAL adventure riding and its avg 85 miles one way for me to go anywhere to offroad. The price OTD was $16,340 after taxes, 400 dealer fee and my helmet. I figure after the 16341 mile on it, its alllll miles and smiles on the freeby scale. Bike is paid for and if ou can afford to get one, DO IT...Good luck finding a manual though, alot of DCT out there, NO manuals. I got mine as they rolled it onto the sales floor and 3 people came in trying to buy it while I was waiting to do paperwork. Glad I had cash in hand, it would of been gone and I would still be on my KTM 890 adventure R....Love that bike also, DO NOT LOVE THE MAINTENANCE or the repairs..NO DEALERS around me and parts are like finding gold. Lol. Happy trails everyone!
Lots of detail and observations after only a week of testing - well done.
I have a 2017 dct model if it wasn’t for the dct I wouldn’t be able to ride after 30 years of woodworking my fingers really hurt to much to operate a clutch I truly and sincerely thank Honda for developing this technology.
I had a stroke in 2016, left foot doesn't work consistently...DCT is a godsend and I want this bike.
@@rogerwilliams2629 I hope you are able to get one I truly think you would be impressed with the engineering of this machine
74 year old here. Just diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. I already had a ‘17 AT DCT and love it.
Pro tip: stay away from D mode, it sucks and definitely makes the engine vibrate much more than S modes. Just stay in S1 or S2 and it behaves awesome
Exactly
This is real journalism!! No sucking up to the manufacturer. Just straight honest reviewing!! Great job!!! I would consider this bike as a long distance tourer, but no DCT. I'm too long in the tooth for gadgets especially when they eventually give problems. Clutch and gear lever please.
I do like this channel!!
DCT is reliable. There is a guy on youtube that did around 240k km on his NC750X DCT
I'd rather have a quick shifter than DCT. In slow technical riding it's nice to fan the clutch and pop it when you're popping over obstacles
I own the same bike you tested, I agree about D not downshifting when it should, it lets it bog too much .. but a little press on the left thumb and it quickly downshifts, i find myself downshifting before passing vehicles or when i know i'm going to lug it around. . also to bypass that issue, drive around in Sport 2 (you press D 2x to get into sport mode, and then you have 3 different levels of this, holding down for 2-3 seconds will cycle you through the different sport modes) ... I also found the front end to dive a bit too much, adding some preload into the front helped this a lot.. I believe the pegs are in this position so that it's easier to stand offroad, they are however too narrow ..
Overall not a bad review, but some of the nit's are from not knowing the bike well enough
Congrats for the video!
The vibration complaint is specific to the DCT model. It is caused because the standard Drive mode upshifts the transmission way too soon, dropping engine revs to 2000 rpm or so. This was probably done for emission and fuel economy reasons. The motor smooths out above 2300 rpm. Simply selecting any of the other, sportier drive modes eliminates the problem. Additionally this is a 270 degree parallel twin, not a boxer twin. The Honda 270 degree crank helps the bike find traction off road better, and was a conscious choice. The suspension on most dirt capable bikes comes on the soft side. Long range comfort and the ability to suit a wide range of rider sizes is the goal. Heavier or faster riders commonly fit stiffer springs and/ or revalve their suspension to suit. Our host owns a big GS, and the telelever front suspension on the BMW does not dive on braking, a wonderful thing. The tradeoff is less front end feel for the rider offroad, especially with the smaller 19” front wheel. The Honda is noticeably lighter than the GS, and performs better off road. Conversely the GS is faster, more powerful, and responsive on the road. If they could only shrink it down 7/8 size...
Best reviews because you are the most honest👍👍👍
top revue as always, Thanks
Overall very informative. A big thumbs up.
I’m moving towards a road or off tarmac (ROOT?) bike; don’t want to go single track. So, could Honda recast this platform to be used as a major touring bike that minors in off tarmac?
What a great video!
I've only been able to take it out on about an hour's ride and never thought it vibrated, whether under load or not. Maybe it was something on your test bike.
I have this 2021 Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT model. I really like the DCT. if I want to ride more aggressive single-track type riding. i will get a smaller bike for that. I recently was bombing down some dirt rodes with Pot Holes and somehow bent the back rim. it has no visible damage but is definitely bent. I also installed Fasst Company bars, now my heated grips do not work. this is probably due to me messing it up somehow. but overall for 80% on-road use with my girlfriend. i love the bike.
Have to agree with a lot of what you've said. Test rode the same manual model in May and I was really surprised by how thumpy the engine was. And the switchgear is just too many buttons. I found it hard to ride smoothly at slow speeds due to the thumpiness. Good power, good position, good TFT, plush ride but definitely dive-y under heavy braking. Makes me miss my stolen GSA even more. Tiger Rally Pro is best of the test rides so far.
I’m thorn between the AT ES or the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT. What do you think between the two?
I own AT'18 manual and Im 180cm/90kg (5'1ft). The AT comes with too soft front suspension if you want to pack it up with trunks but can easily be fixed by adjusting preload setting on front. With harden suspension gives lot of pleasure in fast cornering (even when packed up). The 2018 version comes with 95hp which doesn't sound impressing but is enough to catch up with GS 1200. The engine vibration is pretty subjective ... I didn't notice until heard in this review.
It's a great bike designed to give 60% fun offroad, 40% on road. If you enjoy gravel paths and offroad deffo for you. If you prefer riding on road go with GS 1250 or KTM 1260.
Great review. I wish i could get the red white and black colours on the Adventure version. Honda need to offer more customer colours options. Love the DCT .
My Manual AT doesn't vibrate. The one issue I have with the bike is that it's tall and top heavy. It took getting used to. I ride mine as a router and all around commuter.
Agree on the brake dive, it is just too much and weird. Regarding the seat, I felt it too firm too at first but after my first trip I got used to it and now I don’t see necessary to replace it.
I rarely feel the vibrations on my manual version. It's strange for me to see in your video that the automatic transmission put's a high gear at such a slow speed.
Great review. Not tried the 2021 ATAS, but have ridden the previous incarnation. Does the display still have a "windows 95" boot speed? In my country the price is high. Too close to sensible competitors. Had a 2016 1200GSA at time of testing. Liked the ATAS though. But not enough to buy it. Today a KTM 1290Super Adventure S is in the stable, that I jokingly call an Africa Twin on a very large dose of testosterone :)
how comfortable is it compared to a GS1250 Adventure ? I’ve got your size …
Barely any Vibration on my 2020 Africa Twin, though it is manual. So perhaps something with your DCT setting. But other than that agree with your review.
I have it, got new seat, got some wind deflectors, gpr stabilizer, now its a perfect bike. Wish the Apple CarPlay connected easier, but great bike.
I run mine in Tour mode and Sports 1, no vibration fantastic bike, mine is the standard version.
Like your reviews, they're honest and not bought by the manufacturer
Great review.
You forgot to tell you can always shift up en down manually by the flippers on the left handelbar (even when driving in automatic mode).
And beware of the 2 recalls; oxide in the fuelpump/tank, and a faulty ABS module.
I had exactly the same model for 6 months en did about 7100km on it. I traded mine in for a BMW R1250RT because of those recalls and because my bike pulled to the right a bit, quite annoying. And it lacks of torque (especially compared to a BMW 1250 engine).
Great fuel milage (did 575km on 1 tank) and great plush suspension.
Oow, and it made a annoying clicking sound above 23 degrees celsius when giving throttle (possibly the butterfly/throttlebody).
What are the chances in the aftermarket to change the seat?
the usb port has how many volts/ampers?
For the record I did feel great 👍🏻 on this bike and that engine is fantastic.
Is this a AT or an Adventure? Asking because I am thinking of getting a ATA ES DCT, but I have a DOUBT if I should wait for the 2022...
Thanks, GREA, GREAT VIDEO, really appreciated it.
This is the Adventure Sports he's reviewing. If you want a DCT, wait for the 2022. Honda made some adjustments to the low end so it's not so difficult to ride a DCT at slow speeds.
Well done
Great perspective. Appreciate the unique point of view, well done. Only comment, seems like you may have not adapted the DCT to your preferences. I have only ridden the manual so not much comments from me except the engine was rather low vibration for a twin. Edit: ok, just rode, again, my buddys 18 AT. I think I have found the vibration you refer to. Yes, ok, fair comment. Not extreme, to me, but it is there under conditions you describe. Really disappointing was the overall feel of the bike above 100 kph. Buzzy. Windy. Finally, I did find a couple road conditions where we did a bit of a pogo hop on the suspension. Otherwise, very luxurious ride - but clearly - on the soft side. That 21 front does not help - on road.
This was a very well edited video. Dave does a GREAT job making you look good on the Africa Twin. Now a question... why do the turn signals blink on camera even when the engine is off ?
For some silly reason Honda decided to use the indicators as running lights. They are both on (slightly dimmed) whenever the ignition is on. I’m not happy with this idea, both my 1000AT and CRF250 have this dangerous wiring idea. They only flash when you use the indicators, the flicker is only one the video.
The LED indicator lights operate at a certain frequency that often synchronizes with recording equipment. Kind of like matching the shutter speed. Similar to watching video recordings of helicopter blades or airplane props in motion. The flashing is an optical illusion. CZcams search “Helicopter shutter speed” or “LED flicker”.
@@mdc503 thanks for that info.
This :)
Someone took notes from James May's new Dacia Sandero review. Good!
Well spotted!! 🤣😇
You put it right…apart from Apple Car Play, the TFT control implementation does seem very utilitarian, 1990s ish, especially compared to the BMW and Triumph implementation.
Nice review, thumbs up! Anyway, would be nice to see more reviews instead of news… News with few official shots are a bit dull… Like Dave i guess…
Good review. I like your new format.how are you doing with COVID in Romania?
Hey James. Very good actually. People are getting vaccinated, very few cases, very few restrictions, so all good in general. You?
Hi there. Good to hear from you. I get my second shot on Monday. Canada has cleaned up its act in the last few weeks. Infection rate is quite low and the country has opened up..
I’ve owned a 2016 at and currently have the 2020 version ( standard ) one of the things I’ve liked about both bikes was zero vibrations , so not sure what’s going on with that one . Thanks for the review 👍🏻👍🏻
@GuyStuff77 in short the new one is heaps better , handles better , engine has plenty power , however I believe the old bike was more comfortable , and if I could have this new bike without all the fancey electrics , I would go that way . Cheers
MAN, not sure if it is because I am BRAZILIAN, but I got to say...I LOVE YOU STYLE you are great...THANKS A LOT.
CHEERS MATE
You asked Favorite Settings: TOUR Mode is fine for most situations and I prefer S2 for the DCT Gearbox. I have a User1 Setup for Extra Sporty On Road Power and User2 for Extreme Off Road Conditions. Again I use S2 DCT Gearbox setting because it feels like a AScooter in Drive or S1. (S2 is Perfect... S3 is Insane!)
Thanks!
No, no... Thank you! I insist! :D
Salut! Recomanzi motocicleta pentru un incepator? Multumesc anticipat, Bogdan!
Nu as recomanda aceasta motocicleta la incepatori pentru ca e destul de inalta si centru de greutate nu e asa de friendly cu incepatorii. Cred ca nu as recomanda in general un Adventure cu o greutate >200kg. Ai un learning curve mult mai mare de cat cu ceva mai usor. Probabil un KTM 790/890 Adventure ar fi mult mai ok daca tot vrei motor mid/large pentru ca are ~210kg cu un rezervor care e gandit sa aiba centru de greutate jos.
Daca ai asteptarile potrivite ca o sa dureze mai mult pana te obisnuesti cu o motocicleta, ca sa fie in zona de confort, atunci e ok. Daca nu, s-ar putea sa nu iti placa in primi 2-3000 de km.
@@cristiantamas Multumesc foarte mult pentru sfaturi, inca o data, Cristian. Cred ca o sa-mi cumpar un KTM sau BMW 850 GS. AM sa tin cont de ce mi-i spus , in legatura cu rezervorul mare si centrul de greutate . Cele bune! Bogdan
@@bogdangheorghe5427 F850 GS nu ar fi mai usor de invatat ca si cum ar fi KTM-ul. E tot greu si BMW-ul. Daca tot vrei sa iei in considerare F850 GS-ul atunci poti lua in considerare si Africa Twin varianta de baza cu rezervorul de baza. Ce as mai lua in considerare e si cat de mult vrei off-road. Daca doar o data pe an, mai bine iti iei ceva cu roata mai mica de cat la Africa Twin (21') si cu suspensie mai scurta. Ce nu imi place mie la AT pe strada este ca are suspensia foarte moale si cand franezi iti "intra" motocicleta puternic in suspensie si se lasa mult si e mai greu sa revii in curba, comparat cu o motocicleta mai street oriented. Inca nu am incercat reglajele la suspensia de la AT dar urmeaza. AT e clar cel mai off-road oriented din clasa Adventure dar daca mergi mult mai mult pe strada, atunci nu e cel mai bun pentru fun factor in curbe.
@@cristiantamas In mod cert esti cumsecade ;ai avut rabdare sa-mi scrii , sa-mi rapunzi! Ca sa fiu sincer , am avut, in negura timpului, un kawasaki zr750 naked . Acum vreau un ADV. Strain de cauza nu sint, am mers mult cu ea;mult si demult..:). Cred ca o sa ma orientez spre un KTm 790. Vedem..
CRISTIAN, multumesc mult pentru bunatate! Reverente,Bogdan
The lack of power would be apparent once you get the passenger on the back. And I agree I’m sure they could have gotten more power out of it and for the price it just sits in a weird gap in between middleweight and the full-size bikes.
I'm curious how the bike would improve its power with a Dynojet Power Commander.
Maybe BMW should make 800cc boxer engine and throw away off road BS they have ! Thoughts ?
Keep up great work ! 👍🍻
17000 km on my 2020 ATASes. Have Z06, Boss 302, dirt bikes, mountain sleds ect, ect. I would not own this bike with out DCT or ES suspension. I ride Rocky mountains, hiways, forestry roads and cities. These have to have features are learned and become a huge asset in various terrains and road compositions. The seat eventually broke my "ass" in, lol, and I enjoy it finally. "Sport 2" in city. Lazy "touring" on hiway, and manual shift (override) down when need some quick speed. Mitas EO7 tires, and Mazinga internal tank fuel filter (for magnesium weld flaking issues) are my go to updates.We do two week tours on these rides across Canadian provinces, finding them very capable. Many back road adventures, last year skirted by numerous forest fires and 46' C. No issues! My buds and I love these bikes and patiently waiting for a new summer ehh 🇨🇦 :-) Happy trails in 2022 all :-)
How does this compare to last year’s AT?
It's the same except the colors.
If it only had a storage place nd center of gravity - almost of the NC750X ( bigger ground clearance takes it up... ) - I would definitely consider it ! 🤔
This bike is complicated! Too much tech and difficult to navigate it all. I don’t really understand why the bike looks so small on camera and so huge in the showroom!
You're in Romania? When do we get a cross-over collab with the guys from the Racing and Adventure channel? :)
soon... :D
FINALLY! After weeks and weeks of silence you have mentioned Dave! I was about to call Interpol. I thought you may have done something ... permanent to him.
Whew!
Great vid of boring Honda.
Thanks,
S
The 2016-2019 were the best of the new AT. Honda wrongly put the electronics engineer in charge of the 2020+ models……but they forgot to include the motorcyclist and the fact it’s a Motocycle first, not a PlayStation.
The VFR1200X is another bike Honda make with the foot pegs in the wrong place when trying to put your foot down. Do these people not ride the bike after they've designed it? Made me sell the bike.
I own the 2019 and love the DCT! Sucks in drive; ride in sport 3 mode! Basic display, very easy to use. No vibrations. Footpegs are in the wrong place.
The only bike I'd buy from Honda is the 750 Transalp... When they bring it back I'll get it...
In the Showroom I found it feeling top heavy and the seating uncomfortable and demo rides don’t really happen here with Honda
Attend a rally & test ride them
@@richardvalitalo3670
The way bikes our sold in South eastern USA at powersports dealers (5 to 10 brands in one building)is making The Pan American look like the best choice
😳you let Dave out?
Jokes aside. I love my 2019 ATAS manual....here in Costa Rica I was able to purchase it new from the agency in $18000....we pay alot of import tax....a new GSA would have cost me $37000...it just made a lot of sense to go for the ATAS...a GS800Adv would cost $24000
Not a bad bike. Have you killed off Dave loved the jokes
Of course not, but he’a not allowed out. He’s for the garage stuff because the outside world ia scary.
you love the bike so much you " do it "
Touring positives vs GS - well, if you are touring somewhere that you can only find crap / low quality gasoline - you can actually still run the Africa Twin. But the BWM needs higher octane fuel. So , the BMW is a “first world only” Adventure tourer. the Africa, all world tourer.
The GS is 87. Ducati is 93. But you wouldn't have to worry about fueling the Ducati because it'll be in for servicing for the entire riding season.
Manual transmission for me, I'm not to old to change my own gears!!
...where getting your motorcycle news is easier than convincing Honda to reintroduce the NX 650 with the 650r motor... but not by much
i got the base 2020 DCT -NO VIBRATING HERE !!!!!
Honda really screwed this one up. The TFT UX, vibrating engine and that brake dive looks horrible... Maybe you should do the V-Strom 1050 XT next
Come to Australia and actually get off road. Most of the tracks shown are the type of tracks I ride a heavy touring bike on with no problems. I watch a back to back review with a GS1200 against a original R80GS and the R80GS seemed to be better off road. I think manufacturers are losing the plot with huge bikes off road.
DCT is very good off-road
Great review, but man, this music..... I'd prefer silence tbh
I have had L4 DCT version and experienced 5K km's. I have sold AT and bought GS1250 and very happy for my new choice. If you ride mostly off-road, Africa Twin is superb but on road not. 21 inch wheel doesn't make you happy in curvy roads :)
I agree, I had a 2019 AT, hated it, would never recommend the DCT, clutching provides more control. I now have a 2020 triumph tiger 900 GT Pro, it kills the AT in every are, handling is a lot better, I love it. I also have BMW 1200, it is a way better then the AT. AT would be my last choice.
Sounds like someone is used to the sowing machine that is a R series BMW? Here is AUS, Honda & Yamaha = getting home, give it a bath see you next weekend. BWW, KTM = credit card and a ramp for the Ute are highly recommended. Gives you lots of quality time in the shed having beer while you attempt to fix the broken bits or if you own a BMW waiting for it to be returned from the dealer. My 2021 Africa twin L model reminds of old KTM 990 except that it works. Every time. Enough said.
Being 6'3" that bike is looking to small for me.
You looked too big on it at 5'11 so I've no fecking hope.
Buy a 2019 Adventure Sport, they're taller. I'm 6.2, its perfect
What about the DCT? I hate the idea of an auto trans on a motobike. but that's Honda, always going for comfort, safety, reliability...... boring. lol But I love Honda, would love a African twin someday. Love my XR650L. Change the oil, just keeps on going.
A great, honest review. I have a ‘19 Gold Wing Tour DCT and the DCT on that bike is brilliant. I don’t know if I would take that option on this bike. Too much customization for me and the display is blah compared to the GSA. Lower seat is a plus for me and seems there is enough value for the money. Would be nice to have a one-manufacturer garage, but I think I would prefer a GSA for this type of bike. Well done.
heheheheh.........Dave!
Yes I like this channel because of ….reasons. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
It's a Honda. What did you expect?
Honda is not known for building ground-breaking or extremely exciting motorcycles. Reliable, last for ever, won't let you down, will do everything well, not exceptionally well...
For anyone who needs excitement, get a KTM, Aprilia or a Ducati. Those motorcycles are the true definition of "adventure". Getting back home on those is sooooooo exciting. In the Ducati case, if one can leave is already a victory.
Could it be that the vibrations are a result of the EU5 restrictions in the exhaust?
About the power Honda could have squeezed out of the engine... Again, it's a Honda. More power vs more reliability, Honda is a conservative manufacturer, always goes for more Km instead of more Kw...
Great job mate.👍
As a fat dude, thanks for this review I can relate to it a lot
Flies like your Bold Boldi... keep talking ..fine video ...
This has now become a BMW GS comparison channel. He compares all bikes against what he assumes is the best ADV bike. As we all should know the best ADV bike depends on the person. Age, size, skill etc all determine what bike is best for an individual. He has become the typical BMW owner who feels the need to justify why he bought his bike. Which brings me to my next point. He calls the AT value for money. Yes, it is when compared to an extremely and unnecessarily overpriced BMW. He makes the AT sound like it is cheap and cheerful. I am going to have to unsubscribe due the bias view. Reviewing the bike based on the manufacturer’s direction for the bike would be preferable to reviewing based on one persons riding preference. If he wants to be an international bike review journalist then he needs to leave his biases aside. Otherwise he might as well just post on BMW fanboy sights. Yes, I ride an AT so this comment could be determined as biased. However, I have noticed his tendency to compare bikes to his own personal bike in the past. This video just underlined the issue.
We are all a little biased in life, of course. It’s human nature. I am however aware of it and everything I say in any review is with knowing that at the back of my mind. The reason I compare certain aspects of other bikes to the GS is because they are the most well known and sold model of adventure bikes, so people will more easily be able to understand the comparison. In reality I don’t really ride my bike anymore, since reviewing other bikes takes a lot of time and effort. Haven’t even seen it in the past month :) ….and no, I don’t think the GS is the best thing aince sliced bread; i can definitely find a dozen things that i hate about it, but it defintely is a benchmark in the adventure market and comparisons are done with benchmarks. Imo.
I disagree with your comment. I’ve owned the previous version Africa Twin DCT version for 3 years and a lot of his comments are true for the previous version too. I wouldn’t buy another AT again due to quality issues (rust showing through paint from a few months old) and the crazy amount of wind buffeting I suffer at anything above 40mph. I don’t ride off road and use the AT mainly for touring and agree that the seat is ridiculously uncomfortable, even after 15 minutes. Footpegs definitely in the wrong position; try carrying a pillion and setting your foot down with the AT…it’s near impossible. Anyways, even though I currently own the AT I can be objective, whereas a lot of folks will buy a bike and cannot accept any criticism, as though they need consensus bias and block out anything other than positive comments to confirm they’ve made the correct purchase.
DCT flogging as usual
like your review... Today, if I need to pick up, I will take only Made in Japan cos I need a reliable motorcycle & if so Honda is The 1
120, 140. MPH I hope!!! [real numbers!]
I think dave was hunting you like a deer...you just got lucky he continued to miss.
U are the first one that complain about the "vibrations" on this bike. Learn to use it or go electric.
Yes dad
I have an adventure sport, manual, dct and es versions add too much weight to an already heavy, bulky bike, big minus for me, no storage for tools or anything elsewhere, also why have a cable clutch in 2021??, should be hydraulic, also right hand goes numb from vibration occasionally, pluses, comfortable, great weather protection, 535km fuel range, wish list, smaller engine, more power, less weight, storage a must have, get the fuel down low like ktm
maybe you you could 'Program it'...to 'take Out' the Vibrations & Brake DIVE? ...LOL!!... ..Can Honda just 'Take Out' some of the 'Gadgetry-Customization'..'..to make the Bike more 'Affordable'?.....Damn 'FLY'S'!!...LOL!
You earn your salary from BMW !!!
This is not the real journalism !!!
It looks pretty cheap close up , the fit and finish are particularly average … and I think it’s too expensive ..
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I have tested one of these, my results are that I would never buy one of these.. I'll take the manual shift every time!!!
Uu
For me it it's not the perfect bike....if you ride mostly off road the tenere is lighter, cheaper and handles better. For road touring the GS / GSA is better in terms of suspension, braking and no chain.
The dct is terrible get a manual its way better
Cheaper $ than bmw
I sold my GS and bought a 1000cc AT. The GS I sold had all the ‘bells and whistles’. Apart from changing the suspension when my wife rode pillion I never used the electronic stuff. My AT doesn’t have the DCT or the complicated setup options like the new AT, I think that’s why I prefer the AT over the GS I sold.
@@SprocketN I like my 17 crf1000 (dct) will add cruise next
All freakin' reviews are with Dct. Not interested
The 2016-2019 were the best of the new AT. Honda wrongly put the electronics engineer in charge of the 2020+ models……but they forgot to include the motorcyclist and the fact it’s a Motocycle first, not a PlayStation.