Honda Africa Twin CRF1100L DCT - Long Term review - One year of riding
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- The Honda Africa Twin CRF1100L DCT has been with me for a year now, which means I've had the opportunity to ride it in all weathers and on all kinds of roads. So what is it like to live with? Is the DCT gearbox any good? Is it comfortable, easy to ride etc? In this 20 minute video, I try to answer all those questions and a few more. I'll highlight the good things and the bad things and if this is an adventure bike you've been eyeing up, I hope the long term review is useful.
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Intro - 00:00
DCT gearbox - 00:24
Ergonomics - 06:47
Hows the screen? - 07:48
Ride Quality & Handling - 08:11
Stock Tyres & Wheels - 09:12
Electronics - 09:58
Accessories - 12:09
Looks & Style - 15:39
Should you buy one? - 16:04
Price & Running costs - 17:58
But aren't Hondas Boring? - 19:11
Conclusion - 19:35 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
DCT should be available for all bikes.Cheers.
Cheers Bruce
Electric bike change every thing
Nah. Quick shifter! Can still slip the clutch in first for low speed control, quick changes 2-6th, and back down - without the weight of DCT.
Great review, probably the best one I have watched. You covered everything with some extra advice on the bluetooth trick too.
No problem, thanks Drew
Thanks for a most useful video. I particularly enjoyed the detailed discussion of the DCT system.
No problem, glad it was useful
What a great video, concise yet well explained, excellent production too. One of my first stops in CZcams when I'm researching for a new bike or kit. Thank you, hope your channel continues to grow, as it should.
Awesome, thank you!
I have a 2020 ATASes DCT and absolutely love it. 15000 km, with one spoke hub end falling off. Fuel tank issue as per all Adventure Sports, otherwise bullet proof. Just finished 4500 km through BC interior, Vancouver Island, Sunshine Coast with four others. Camped 50%, with about 40% offroad on trip. Multiple days of honesty 46+ ' Celsius, on dirt mountain passes. 8 days all above 35' C. Bike's ran Honda reliable, as expected. Changed tires to Metzler E07's and found awesome for blend of HWY/gravel terrains. The electronic suspension is well well underrated. Fork dive is gone on street. Switch to dirt or gravel and suspension instantly softens and adapts. Add a pillion, or panniers, again a push of a button adapts to a perfect ride. This bike sells itself. As a dirt rider all my life this bike has pleasantly surprised me in ways I'd never expect. Countless hours of research and development have gone into this machine and it shows. I'm 6'2" at 220 pounds and find it very comfortable. Don't try one unless you have the cash to buy. They're that good!
I do like the electronic suspension on the AS, as you say really handy for loading up with luggage.
I'm virtually the same height and weight as yourself so I'm thinking it would be a good fit ergo-wise. I'd appreciate your thoughts on whether it has enough power on tap to be somewhat sporty on mountain roads, and to bring along a pillion occasionally?
@@mlivesay529 For me it has plenty of power. Spins the back wheel all day if that's what I want, except I'm over 50 now, and don't heal all that quick any longer, lol. We don't ride much single track on these bikes, but most any two track around our Rocky mountains are great on the Twins. My bud is 57 and packed his wife about 4000 km on a 19, 1000 ATAS, with us. Forestry roads throughout BC, Vancouver Island , Vancouver/various cities, Sunshine Coast, Interior and Northern BC, and they never missed a beat. My 1100 has more power and electronic suspension, which I believe would be even easier. Put mine away this week as snow flying here now. Felt like crying, lol. Come on Spring! :-) Best of luck 529, hope you find a nice ride :-)
@@billmcmeekin7909 Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a fantastic machine. I'm 52, coming from a Tracer 900. I haven't really had much off-road experience but it feels like I'm missing out on some good riding as I live in the Chattanooga area.
I've been considering the ATAS ES and the KTM Super Adv S. I know, 2 very different bikes. I was leaning towards the SA-S. As much as the hooligan in me wants the KTM, the more I look at the AT, its do-it-all capability, comfort, and reliability are winning me over. That red, white, and blue paint scheme is just beautiful.
Have fun farkling while the weather is nasty. Cheers!
Hi Bill, fuel tank issue wasn’t resolved part of recal ? what’s the one spoke hub falling issue ? please elaborate ? thank you
Great to hear a review from someone who actually understands the bike. I also purchased the touring screen, I like the suspension, and I purchased the deflectors for the handguards.
Thank you. All worthwhile additions
You are fast becoming my favourite bike reviewer, well done keep it up.
That’s nice to hear, thanks Nigel
Nice review, glad your not messing it up with music overdubs. Good job
Cheers Lee
Another great review Tony 👍🏻👏🏻. I’m thinking of getting one of these and you have probably made up my mind!
Cool, glad the video was useful
I’m considering purchasing an Africa and your review was very informative. Well done and thank you.
No problem, glad it was useful
Will be getting mine this coming October after all lockdown craziness ends. Super excited to ride!
Nice! Its a great bike and as you can tell, I love it!
Nobody complained when they made cars with Auto transmissions, but with bikes it seems to be a difficult transition for many. To each their own. I learned to ride on scooters and worked my way up to this, so I love my DCT.
I love it too and happy to jump between this and standard gear boxes.
true
Excellent review my friend. You answered every question I had and than some.
I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT and the auto trans is exceptionally pleasurable to use.
It really lets you enjoy the ride better. The engine is a monster and as reliable as it gets.
If I hit the lottery, I will order a brand new Gold Wing DCT right then.
Thank you for your very nice review.
My thoughts exactly! Winning the lottery and buying a Goldwin DCT. I now have the Africa Twin AS ES with the DCT and is superb. But a Goldwing .......
Thanks for the time-stamps, they not only give access to topics of interest, they provide an index of topics covered. During Covid year I’ve been hassling my next bike to purchase - as of now, the AT is the front runner.
No problem Walter, glad they are useful. Have you ridden one yet?
@@mancavemoto I’ve ridden the first and second generation; yet to ride the latest model. In total I’ve spent less than 15 hours on the AT so, lots to learn! I’m still trying to decide between the Tiger 900, KTM Adventure Sport and the AT DCT. In the meantime I’m trying to sell a bike or two to afford any of them!
Can i get a social to contact u
Thank you for the video. I have mine coming in soon. You answered multiple personal questions I could not locate in others.
Glad I could help, enjoy the bike!
@@mancavemoto its the longest wait of my life it feels. 😅
Love your video lots of info and very clear to the rider. Thank you
No problem
Good well rounded review, I enjoyed it.
Cheers Mark
8 days to go until I pick up my 2021 tricolour Africa Twin DCT Adventure Sport. I just can't wait. Thanks for your review.
Nice! a great colour scheme too. Enjoy!
Your onboard audio quality is spectacular!
Thanks
This is a beautiful bike, I have the 2018 standard dct and have retro fitted the tubeless rims from the 2020 adventure sport. I use the bike for everything and I live in India where the roads are a bit of a jungle! This bike has never disappointed on my short commutes to multiple week trips across. It’s been easy to live with in terms of service cost and just the reliability! I have put around 81k kms so far and I absolutely love the bike. It’s definitely a great option. Once you test ride the dct especially the latest ones the imu definitely makes an already good system even better! Great review and overview
I thought this was your personal bike. Excellent review, Tony. A great bike, for sure. It costs a bit too much, but I am attracted by the DCT.
Cheers Bud, yep it’s a bit of cash to shell out, but seems inline with the competition?
I'm late to the party but great review. I picked up my '21 Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT last Monday. Amazing machine! Cheers. 🍻
Not late to the party at all. Thanks
That's a fair review based on the bike and the bike alone. I enjoyed it, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for the great review Tony. Looks like a really fine job that Honda did with this machine. I got to admit that as i'm riding along with you, your route looks a bit scary. Your roads look as big as some of our bicycle path's over here in the U.S.. Maybe in reality there a bit wider. At least your safer on this bike than the Zero since they can here you coming (lol). Anyway keep having fun & keep entertaining us. Your friend across the pond. Illinois,USA
They sure did Larry. Yes some of the lanes are pretty narrow! Cheers, Ride Safe
great and crispy review . no unwanted seconds in this video
Cheers, I try to keep them concise
@@mancavemoto this is what we need ..to the point explanation
Really good review, you covered everything, I hope you manage to get one, great if you get the press bike, all the best👍
Cheers Geoff
Yeah i fell in love with AT too. Its fantastic. Just have decide if to go for DCT or clutch version as want green lane too. Great review
It’s an easy thing to do. DCT is good for general green Lane use too. Cheers
What a top review. I have a X ADV dct which I love but lacks a bit if power so this might well be a good way to go. Many thanks
HI Tony great review of the Africa Twin. I have a 2018 DCT and absolutely love it. The only problem is once you have enjoyed a dct its difficult to go back to a manual bike. Not sure I can make the leap to a 1100 but to be honest I don't see the need right now as my 1000 is more than enough for me. I really enjoy your no nonsense videos and look forward to each and every one of them.
Cheers Peter that’s good to hear, nowt wrong with the crf1000
I have the 2019 ADV Sports DCT and the only thing I would sell it for is a DCT TransAlp that may or may not happen! A 750 version of this bike would be amazing! That 750 ADV scooter you can't get in the US would be a game changer for many people as well! I hear a lot of complaints on why DCT isn't offered on the 500 that would also be a great ADV option!
Great review and mirrors my own take on the bike. It’s got it all.
Thanks! 👍
I enjoyed that review. Good work
Thanks Lyle
Great review I brought the AT adventure sport black came from a zzr1400 took the AT for an hrs spin loved it 😁
Cheers, enjoy youur AT!
Great review, thanks for your presentation. Excellent.
Thanks for watching
I have a 2022 Africa Twin Adventure Sports Model. Awesome bike. Zero problems. Love it.
👍
Great video, you’ve gained another subscriber!
Thanks James
I’ve been using pyramid stuff for 25 yrs , good products , cheers for the review Shane uk 🇬🇧
No problem
Excellent review. Cheers!
Thanks
Never realised you were testing a "Big Lad" Tony, but loved your honest review (as always). After years of exile I "met" my big lad in April, and have already put Conti Trail attack 3's (puncture in the Metzeler rear) and just received my Givi 30l top box 2 days ago - so following your pattern mate..... It was Richy's trip to Scotland last year that made my choice for me !. Ride safe brother 👍
‘Big Red’ but close enough 😂 you too Paul
@@mancavemoto Funny really Tony, as I have names for my bikes, which I know is not your mantra as you mention here. In the past, my OWN nickname was “Big Red”, but God has made me more aerodynamic these days 🤓. The process by which I chose the Twin as my daily rider (after 40 years without owning one) was truly insane, but I already owned “Ronnie”, so my big lad is known as Reg or Reggie. One day mate I’ll tell you the story over a beer. Love your channel Tony - cracking mate. Solid advice every single time. Not been a single comment from your channel that I disagreed with,. Keep safe mate 👍
Love the AT! Nice review!
Cheers, Thanks for watching!
Nice review on this bike, Cheers from Saskatchewan Canada
Thanks! 👍
Gréât review! You deserve more subscribers!
Thank you
Excellent review. Beautiful looking bike.
Thanks
Top class review, Great job
Much appreciated!
Great, thorough review! God Bless!
Thank you kindly!
Excellent review!! Thanks
No problem
It took me a while to adjust to the DCT but now I love it. In addition to the finger shift you can also add on a foot shifter and ride like any quick shifter, this is ideal if your riding different bikes each day.
Sorry, commented on the foot shifter before you covered it.
Would you recommend it for the first rider
@@lwazisabelo4988 are you asking if this is good for a first time rider? The DCT would make a bike easier to ride for a new rider on Road, just like twist and go scooters are easy for new riders. HOWEVER it’s not suitable as a first off road motorcycle,way to big and powerful that could easily hurt you. The Africa Twin is in my view a bit too big as a first motorcycle even on the road because of its power and its weight, unless you’re a very big guy (over 1.9 m or 6’2”) then I’d suggest starting with a smaller lighter bike, for on road around 500cc to 750cc and for off road 250cc or 300cc. I hope I understood your question and that this helps ?
@@irishflyer6377 thanks
@@lwazisabelo4988 ktm adventure 390
It is a fantastic bike and very good looking. I owned a 2017 model an now I own a 2018 Africa Twin DCT. In one week fom now I get a new one, a 2020 1100 model DCT with just 3.200 miles on it. I rode it last week and I had even more fun than the earlyer models AT I've been ridden. The 2020 model has a stronger engine with more torque and horsepower. I love the new display end the cruise control!! Honda AT is still the best allround bike on earth IMO. Reliability from Honda and the low maintanance costs is also important for me.
I love them
Great review thanks a lot!
My pleasure!
Great review, thanks! I like that LeoVince T-shirt! Can’t find it anywhere.
Cheers Carl, thE t-shirt was a freebie from them, not sure if they sell them?
The man wearing a Harley Davidson logo t-shirt review the best Honda adv. I like it !!!!
You know it!
Fantastic review
Cheers
Excellent review
Thanks
You hold down the back button to save having to connect a headset. Simple’s.
I’ve been doing it since I got my ATAS. Edit to add that you select Do Not Pair when it gives you the option. Then hold the back button to get into AppleCarPlay.
Enjoyed your review, I have just bought an ATAS with DCT.
Hah, me too! Picking it up next week.
Nice, enjoy!
Beautiful camera setup
Thank you
Great review. I have the adventure sport DCT and think it’s the dogs bits. An tad lighter would be nice but these adventure bikes are tall and heavy. 👍👍
Thanks, yes a bit less weight or lowering the centre of gravity would help.
Great review 👍.
Thanks! 👍
Really good report lot of information
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another good review.
I appreciate that
Great review
Thanks
Literally just did the paperwork for a 2021 adventure sport dct which has all the things you said you wish that one had, I’ve not even seen it put together yet and can barely contain myself
Nice, enjoy the bike!
I own a 21 AT DCT and grown to really like it . I kinda of disagree with the comment about test riding one . I did a short test ride and wasn't all that impressed because I didn't get a chance to understand all the ride modes. But I bought it anyway. After 3000 miles I can say it's a awesome bike. Like many people I won't do anymore than probably gravel roads. My longest day so far is 475 miles with the help of a couple different seat cushions. To me the seat leaves something to be desired. With a good seat I've thought I could probably put on as many miles in a day as my 2019 Goldwing that has the (stock seat for now. )
I need to get back out to California and get a Russell seat built for the AT . Before the whole state burns up🔥
so the test ride couldn't have been that bad ;) I am thinking about putting a 'cool cover' on it to help with airflow
Loved the review, great presentation!
I don't know about your other viewers but I'd be very interested in your thoughts upon the X-ADV vs the Africa Twin in regards to DCT and performance 😊
I have an X-ADV review coming up very soon. The DCT on it is great, not quite as flexible as on the AT, but stil very very good
@@mancavemoto I'll definitely keep an eye out for it. Thanks for the heads up 😊👍
Hoping to drop the video tomorrow
@@mancavemoto I won't have to wait long then, will I haha! Cheers and all the best on your upcoming content. Love your work 👍👍
I have the e/s dct adventure sports version best bike I’ve ever owned little heavy for me or I’m not big enough haven’t managed to drop it yet. I’m an all year rider the bike has stalled twice at really low pull off speeds in the 11000 miles I’ve covered apart from that no issues at all. I have a Yamaha tracer 900 gt also but that tends to spend most of the time in the shed.
Thanks for the info
Great review piece as ever 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
What jacket is it when you were talking gearbox?
Cheers Joe, its a Klim Drifter which you can find here tinyurl.com/klimdrifterjacket
It's a bike that runs like a car when it comes to maintenance. If you are going to go off road on the DCT with tricky terrain or going to do technical riding, get the footpeg and the off road rear brake pedal!
Dream bike💯
Great Review 👍 i will try the africa, hope its tall enough... 190 cm.
And Hondas are not boring... CBR1100XX, VTR SP, FIREBLADE😎👍 cheers
I hope it is too, let me know how you get on
I'm sure it's a lovely machine. Hard to find here in Oz. No new and half a dozen 2018 or earlier used for around £9,000 GBP.
I bought a $20 Bluetooth adapter on Amazon to bypass the CarPlay safety lockout on my ‘21 Goldwing because I like riding without a helmet. Works great!
Thanks for sharing
Great Review! Just want to know if you can compare BMW GS850 Adv and your recommendation!
I will try! its just a case of trying to get hold of one.
Great review thanks. I really value the insights you give after a lengthy ‘ownership’ Sounds like the imu has brought the dct up a couple of levels. Seems you didn’t feel any lack of power - was there enough grunt.?
Thanks Mike, yep the IMU seems to have ironed out the few kinks in the dct. Plenty of grunt, which is why I had to cut from the Speedo view a couple of times! 😉
That bike sounds so good & such a good straightforward review! 👍👍💯%
Hi Tony, I have an Explorer 1200 , been happy with it upto a point, and I’ve ridden the older AF Twin in South Africa, bit underpowered on tarmac, great on trails.. loved its seat and bars, with a pillion on it was good for handling even off road... the Explorer would have been too too heavy, so my question is.. Is the DCT base model good enough, or would the Sport model be better for longer distances and more off road gravel tracks?
Hi Bob, The adventure sports has a bigger tank and therefore a longer range. For off road I think the standard has an edge
The best motorbike reviewer on YT. Thank you for your excellent videos with honest opinions.
Now, 'if' I had the money it would be a hard choice between the Africa Twin Adventure Sport and the new KTM 1290. I have not ridden either, but I think the KTM edges it for me.
High praise indeed, thankyou. Yes a tough call between those two
Thank you for this excellent review. I’m considering to change my KTM 1290 Super Aventure R for an Africa Twin standard DCT, but I’m a bit afraid to miss the incredible power the KTM has. Will the Africa Twin be very far down below in the excitement département?
Still an exciting bike, just not as raw as the KTM.
Not the same bike but my latest buy- CBR 600 f has really surprised me. Honda’s are not boring (to the likes of me anyway) and way exceed my talents. Build quality and ride are fantastic and in black-looks great.
Yep if boring gets you a 20% market share then thats not too bad. But as you say I don't find it boring, its a lovely bike to ride
Not sure how you have some gear for this bike but it's not yours ? Ah I just heard you said you have it on loan , wow didn't know that dealers loaned these out . Anyway hope you get a chance to get this bike . I have the Tenere 700 and only have 875 miles on it and I have had it for just over a year now . Work work and more work . I have to do my first moto camp real soon as the weather is starting to change .
I sort of out grew my Suzuki DR650 and had been eyeballing the new Twin and the Tenere that was soon coming out , boy I just thought man those are the 2 best looking bikes ever . Got my deposit in for the Tenere in Feb 2020 and then something crazy happened and is still happening . The Tenere is one third less in price but not a third less fun I would imagine . Anyway thanks for the review , it's so tempting to say scree it and go sign some papers and get one but that would get me stoned to death by the misses . If she saw another motorcycle in the garage , I only have one , she would go crazy . Awe man that bike is great though , I have to test ride one. Take care and that would be awesome if you can swing it and have that bike .
The bike is on loan from Honda UK and they are relaxed about fitting parts to it, as long as it’s returned to them in the original spec. It’s a great bike and I’ve really grown to love it. It’s the DCT that makes it stand out for me. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
Greeeeat bike! Great video! Hallo from balkan 🖐😎 One question...is it posibble to achieve 70mpg at 50mph constant speed .. easy relax solo ride without the panniers on the nice flat asphalt road?? I m 179 100kg
Hi, I don't think you'd get to 70mpg, high 50's maybe even into 60's. But having said that its not something i've tried
Nice overview, I wonder what kind of maintenance is needed for DCT
None it seems, but i hate to think how much it would cost to repair if it goes wrong!
Great video. Lovely bike.
Curious - what jacket are you wearing?
Thanks, it’s a Klim Drifter jacket
I have been looking for a new commuting bike, I am sad Burgman stopped making the 650's and been looking at one of these. Has anyone ridden both? I will be doing DCT because I will just be commuting.
I have the Forza 750 best DCT when entering competition I’m after this or get the cash to get the NT1100dct which just has the tour package but all exactly the same engine.
Hi Tony, knowing what you know now after riding the Africa Twin, what would you choose between the Africa Twin and the KTM 790 adv ?
That’s a really difficult question and one I’ve been going back and forth on. I love both bikes, but for different reasons. The 790 is lighter and more nimble, I’m a bit more confident on it in the dirt and it’s great fun to ride. The Honda is bigger and heavier but is a better mile muncher. I’m getting more confident off road too. If comparing manual bikes only, I’d go for the KTM (and probably an 890) but the DCT gearbox elevates the Honda somewhat. I’m being really honest when I say it’s hard for me to choose between the too. One thing to further consider is that the ktm is cheaper and I have a good dealer on my doorstep,
Agree with you 100%
The AT IS A GOAT BIKE IN ITS CLASS!
Its definitely a bike thats much more than the some of its parts
I had a 2019 DCT and I couldn't get into it. I tried to off-road the bike and it was way too twitchy at low speed (1st gear). It's hard to recover from a lunge because you don't have a clutch. I tried to ride the bike in manual mode but it just didn't work for me. I ended up trading the bike 6 months later for a 2020 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE and I'm now having way more fun when off-roading.
I do think the IMU in the 2020 model onwards makes a difference, but there is also off road and 'off road'. Enjoy the scram
@@mancavemoto Yeah I was riding my AT (and Scram) through ATV parks and difficult gravel roads. It was fun while it lasted but I appreciate that my Scrambler complements my riding style much better.
*The Girl On A Bike* has proven the excellent accessibility of this bike in very challenging off-road conditions. It's a really versatile platform which can convey you very long distances on tarmac fully loaded in total comfort all the way to your favourite dirt rides and the engine's relatively lowish state of tune means Honda's traditional reliability is more or less guaranteed.
Absolutely
No revbomb, seems like a good feature for intelligent riders.
True, but sometimes tunnels happen 😉😏😂
I have a 21-plate Tiger Rally Pro. Have to say I’m a bit disappointed with it. Feels very heavy to manhandle, gives me hellish bum ache after an hour, and, most annoying, the gearbox/clutch/quick shifter setup leaves me cold. I’ve ridden bikes for 45 years 😳, and this is the first one I’ve struggled to get consistently smooth gear changes on. Covered 3500 miles on it already, but it still doesn’t feel natural. Should have tried a DCT 🤔.....
Great review.......
Cheers Murdo, yep hard to compare the two bikes they come at the same idea from two different directions
That’s a bummer to hear, I feel like the Tiger 900 Rally Pro is one of the better transmissions out there. The quick shifts are seriously spot on. 100% smooth. Maybe needs some adjustment?
Would you purchase a 2016-19 AT, or do you think the new ones is so much better it's worth the additional cost?
I prefer the new display, and the addition of the IMU makes a big difference, particularly with the DCT. The earlier bike is still a great machine, but persoanally if I could stretch to the extra cost I would.
Sorely tempted over my 2014 GSA which has had quality issue and dreadful service from Mororrad when it came to dealing with a rotting frame and subframe. Sorted eventually but no bike for several months over a the summer and many visits to the dealer. I was blatantly lied to as part of the process. My local Honda dealer is dire too from my time with a Varadero XL 1000. I loved the bike but it never came out from a service without damage of some sort. Hmmm.
Its a great bike, an you've highlighted a problem the manufacturers have. The service people get from the dealer is often the lasting one they have of the brand. Some dealers are better than others but they are independent of the manufacturer and no matter how much influence they try to impose, if the dealer wants to offer poor service, thats what they'll do
Great video!
Which do you like the most, the standard one or the Adventure sport?
The Adventure sport has more kit on it for sure, the electronic suspension and cornering lights are good. Although the bigger tank offers more range, it does add more bulk. I’d pick the standard and spend some money on accessories I think
@@mancavemoto
I am selling my current bike's and saving for buying an AT but i am doubting which one and DCT or manual transmission...
I love the looks of the adventure tricolor but i will use the bike also for some offroad and not much for far distance travel so maybe the standard one wil be better for me and as you say spend more on upgrades.
And do you prefer the DCT more than manual? :)
Sorry for my english, greetings from Belgium!
Yes, good thinking. I prefer the DCT it’s a revelation. No worries your English is better than my French/Dutch!
High Tony do the indicators go on in hazard mode when you emergency stop on it .
Yes Martin, the rear ones do
DCT all the way! A person really cannot ride one for a few minutes, an hour, or even a day and give the DCT a fair review, it takes time to rewrite the brain. The first month of riding mine, I kept grabbing for the clutch and searching for the gear shifter 😂🤦🏻♂️; 45 continuous years riding (none of this sissy stuff of taking 20+ years off for kids, they rode too) and owning 34 different bikes, the ingrained riding habits just don’t rewire easy. I’ve had my 2016 AT DCT for 4 years (and I have a Goldwing) and love it. Just stop in the middle of a steep dirt trail, then we’ll talk about the DCT! I wish they had it in the CBX500.
yes, once you get in tune with it, its a brilliant thing
Great review.. Quick question, what brand Bluetooth earbuds are those at 11:30?
They are from Ultimate Hearing Protection and I can't recommend them enough! The ones in this video are actually the wired ones, but heres my video on the bluetooth version czcams.com/video/rKrgJcq_Shs/video.html
@@mancavemoto you are gem buddy, thanks a million for replying.. 👍 🌟
Greetings from oregon usa i ride a honda xr650l i also have a 1974 bmw r60/6 and a harley softail i bought new now with 64000 miles the honda was in 2019 the honda is now my go to bike now with 10,000 miles i freaking love it my wife is a harley girl wont ride off road hates the old bmw she says the clyinders are wrong lol, im looking real hard at honda africa and bmw gs both preowned if i can make her comfy on the honda there doesn't seam to be info out with two up riding we do long distance also what do you think about the honda two up any one looking for a harley and old bmw
I think the AT is fine two up, the pillion seat is a pretty decent size, but I'd add the Honda grab rail to the bike as well
Just watched this yet again, Tony. In Thailand, the CRF1100L is the same price as the 790 Adventure R. It makes me wonder. Which one would you prefer? I reckon the CRF would look better with a high mudguard.
It’s a really hard call as these are my two favourite Adventure bikes, but for different reasons. I have seen the Honda with a high mudguard and it does look pretty damn good. czcams.com/video/wiT9vfmwZn0/video.html
I think Alt Rider make one too
@@mancavemoto Thanks for that link, mate.
@@mancavemoto I think the weight of the KTM and the fact it's carried so low will be the determining factor for me.
hi mate, I have a 790 adv.. got it as an ex demo and its still only got 1k mls on it. how do these 2 bikes compare.. tempted to swap
Quite different really, I also own a 790 adventure. The Honda is bigger and heavier, but obviously that brings some solidity to it. Personally I love the looks of the Honda and the DCT is fantastic. If I had the money I would trade my 790 for one, and I really really like my KTM!
Any of your tours videos coming up now we can get out and about more ?
I’m trying to work on some new ones at the moment
Hi there
Which would you go for: Tiger 800 or AT?
(Looking at going from an XCX to a 2018 ATAS)
Thanks
Personally I prefer twins to triples. I used to own a Tiger 800 XCA, but I would pick the Honda. I think its a better looking bike too
@@mancavemoto cheers for the reply
Yep, aesthetically, the ATAS all day!
Triple is smooth as is shifting & it feels light…. but keep coming back to the Honda as it’s a stunner!
I can’t get a test ride currently so relying on reviews & forums for info 😑
Thanks again, quality channel, your vid of the triumph headlight removal/ painting was helpful (other bike is a Street scrambler) 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I gather at the Honda off road centre the advice is that for the vast majority of riders except experts the DCT is far better off road. I have a DCT Goldwing and have ridden the manual version frankly I can’t understand why anyone would consider the manual for the bike the DCT is so superior
It certainly helps as you can't stall it. However the only drawback is that it could be prone to a bit of 'Whisky Throttle' if your positioning and bike handling isnt too good off road. I'd pick the DCT version on any of the Hondas that have it.