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Guillows Aeronca RC Conversion - Step-by-Step
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Guillows Aeronca RC Conversion - Step-by- Step
The Guillows Aeronca RC conversion is an ideal candidate for the modeler who wants a scale looking aircraft they can fly in a nearby field. Follow along as I present a step-by-step approach to converting this free flight Guillows build to a very well flying model airplane.
A Guillows RC conversion is not hard to do if you pay attention to a few guidelines. Keep the weight low, and if you use my power system, the Park Zone ultra-micro RC gear, a weight under 3 ounces.
Here is my video on where to purchase the micro electronics for the Aeronca. In addition, be sure to use a Parklite type of covering (lite somewhere in the name) to save weight. Regular MonoKote is just too heavy:
• Park Zone Ultra Micro ...
Guillows balsa wood planes are popular kits with modelers. The Guillows build is straightforward with the fuselage being built by halves over the plans, and the wings build directly onto the plans.
The Guillow kit does not show details for an RC installation, but the video covers in detail how to install the Park Zone system. While the plans call for stick and tissue methods, I used lightweight MonoKote for my Aeronca.
In the video I discuss a brief history of the Aeronca 85 Champion, unbox the kit, go over the plans in detail, and show the build step by step. Flights are included as well as a flight debrief.
Here is a link to my CZcams Channel:
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Many thanks in advance for a post of this video on Facebook, it truly helps the channel a lot!
Regards,
Tim
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - Aeronca overview
01:18 - Park Zone electronics
02:45 - Kit unbox
07:00 - Plans
09:35 - Start building
17:00 - First flight
18:00 - Post flight discussion
19:35 - Flights with cowl
21:06 - Wrap up
Thank you Tim for the video. I'm a subscriber, I appreciate all the work in creating the video and telling us your experiences with your prototypes and models.
JUST KNOW, your time and energy in creating these videos do not go unappreciated.
Rex: Many thanks for your kind words! Tim
Awesome, when I was a young kid, I built one of these as a model to display in my room, and now with micro rc tech, it’s possible to make it a micro fly able rc model..
Thanks for the great build video!
Skyhawk: Many thanks for watching! Tim
Absolutely loved this video Tim. I can't keep up with the inspiration for builds you give me.
David: Appreciate the update 😃 Tim
Keep up the good work!, you gave me the inspiration to pull a model down from my shelf for the first time in months.
LD: Good luck! Tim
Very impressive! Thanks for sharing this video!
Joseph: Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
Awesome build! Might be doing this pretty soon for myself!
Thomas: Best of luck! Tim
Awesome video! I've been thinking of doing this with a similar model and got recommended this by chance. This will definitely be a big help.
BM: The Aeronca is a great start for a Guillows conversion. Looks neat, reasonable nose and tail moments and lots of interior room for electronics. Tim
Thank you, Tim! I am really enjoying your videos and you are a person after my own heart. I have wanted to do conversions on these models since before there was the tech to do it. You provide a lot of good information in each video.
John: Appreciate your words, and best of luck with your modeling efforts! Tim
thanks tim love the videos building this one now. i fly all types and sizes but this one is for the backyard. thanks for the tips . especially the one pice wing.
Glad to help!
VERY well made video!
Thanks.
Bob: Glad you liked it and thanks for subscribing! Tim 😁
A great little flyer! Gotta watch out for the "suck zone" around the roof of the nearby building. I've lost plenty of models that way. Roofs and trees have a very sneaky ability to suck planes out of the sky!
👍🏻😊🙈 Tim
Beautiful small plane!
HG: Many thanks! 😁 Tim
Nice work!
Thanks! Tim
This is a very helpful video - thank you very much Tim! :)
Chris: Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
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Fascinating!
GS: Many thanks! Tim
Very nice.
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A tissue covering should result in a significant weight saving over plastic film. Comet kitted a nice 54 in. span Aeronca Chief. Someday I will finish my kit!
Great point, thanks!
Thanks
👍🏻 Tim
I have a Guillows Aeronca 3001 electric model. I haven't built it yet but it has a 60" so its a bigger plane then most Guillows models. I have yet to build it but I'm excited to get it going.
Jess: I had to look that one up. Did not realize Gullows made a kit airplane that big. Looks like a nice project, best of luck! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Yeah its kind of a rare one. If you ever come across one, get it. I think it would make a really neat subject for a video. Its Semi-scale so its more aeronca looking rather then an actual aeronca. I'm going to try and build mine as light as possible like you did yours. I'm torn though whether or not to keep it original or modify it with some ailerons/flaps like I've done to my Guillows arrow (flys really nice with flaps down). Or keep it original since its a fairly rare model.
Jess: Good update! Tim
Very nice tutorial video. Recommend using "lite" type iron-on covering, intended for small electrics , such as Parklite, instead of Monokote and provide link of where to get motor/speed control/receiver "bricks" or alternative micro gear for small models like this. Alternatives for removable wing mounting would also be good. Also would be good to include a link to RC Groups "sticky" list and conversion threads of all Guillows models.
Gary: I added the link in the Aeronca description to my video on where to purchase the micro electonics (www.StevensAero.com). Wing mounting adds a bit of weight, and you are never sure the wing is on just right. At these light weights, I think it is OK to glue in place. But, can certainly use an alternate mounting method. Good luck! Tim
The Cessna 150 is similar and I put off building it. I’ve never built a guillows model but I did buy a laser cut, I’ve had experience with die cut and some really ate my lunch.
Harold: Good luck with future projects! Tim
@harold... My Guillows C150 will arrive soon...plan to cover and decal it in the same color scheme I solo'd in...full size years ago. Have you made any progress on your 150? Any tips or insights?
Great video and lots of very good tips in regard to converting these models for successful RC operation. These models were never designed for R/C. Sometimes I think that they were primarily designed to hang from the ceiling over someones bed! Nothing wrong with that, I have a few hanger queens on my wall as it is. I wonder if Guillows would ever bring our an R/C version of the kit based on your mods?
MS: These Guillow kits are quite old from when originally rolled out. They seemed to do a very nice job of updating the plans with the newer laser cut kits. But why they discuss U-control or single channel radio version, with no mention of electrical power, I have zero idea. Would be good to perhaps offer a more complete RC solution! Tim
I love to watch your build and fly videos. Would you be willing to share any information regarding the
down thrust and right thrust angles that you use on your ultra-micro builds. Currently, I’m mounting the park zone
motor on to a polyurethane carving block set at 3 degrees down thrust. I’ve not seen any consistent information regarding
the amount of right thrust needed.
Thanks,
Jim
Jim: I always start with around 2-3 degrees right and down thrust. Seems to work. Tim
Great videos Tim and I like the way you explain your methods.
Is there a chance you could do a video on the Guillows Giant Stuka?
I’m about to purchase a kit and I want to convert it to RC.
Keep up the great work.
Brendan: The Stuka would make for a great RC conversion. If you follow the process on my Guillows Hellcat, pretty much the same approach. I will not be building a Stuka as the plastic wheel pants will come off about every flight with my grass runway. 😁😟 Tim
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Thanks for the prompt reply, Tim. I have seen your Hellcat vid and that’s probably the way I’ll go.
Great video, Tim, greetings from Downunder. I received this kit for my birthday a few years back and have yet to build it. I grew up building Guillows & Sterling FF rubber models, so I really enjoy seeing videos like these. I was planning to take the gear from my Vapor and install it but not sure if that motor will be powerful enough. I believe there are a few different versions of that motor. Tim, which one did you use?
Stu: Many thanks! The Vapor motor will not be powerful enough for the Aeronca. If you go to StevensAero.com, look under micro motors, and purchase their "performance micro motor and gear box," that should work well. Tim
Tim thank you for your videos ! I am new to this hobby, but find your segments very informative. Two questions, if I may? Purchased a “ brick” from Steven’s and a GWS/LPS-B2C brushed motor from eBay. Going to attempt a scratch build from an old Comet balsa kit. Not sure how to plug 1 cell Lipo. Battery to brick. Not sure which is negative and positive on eflite Lipo battery? No red dot like on my horizon hobby champ. How would I size a brushed esc for GWS motor if motor may not connect to brick? Thanks , again, for great info.
George: To plug in the 1 cell lipo, if there is no red dot on the bottom of the brick connector, look for some sort of plastic extension . . . that would be the bottom of the connector. For the lipo, ensure the writing on the top of the battery (1S 3.7V 150 mamp, etc.) is the top of the battery. Remember when you plug the battery into the brick with the transmitter off, after around 5 secs the light on the brick will flash rapidly, as that is the bind mode. As the brick contains the ESC, receiver and two servos, I have no idea how one would connect another ESC to this unit. www.StevensAero.com might have an idea. Tim
Love your vids very inspiring i want to build one of these so bad. Please can you recommend an economical starter transmitter that binds ?
JMMJ: Spektrum DX6. You cannot go wrong with this transmitter. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 thank you ! thats the one I had been looking at.
I'm trying to figure out your concern with weight? If it were rubber powered, then weight is super critical, but I wouldn't think it would be on this, unless you're trying for very slow flight?
Edit: I was watching this over two days. I went back and payed closer attention and got my answer. 😁
KF42: All good! Weight is perhaps the most critical item for flight, from private aircraft to airliners to space rockets. There is simply no valid or good reason to fly anything that is heavier than it should be. This is especially important for smaller RC or free flight models. Tim
I'm about to start a guillows Stearman pt-17. I'm wondering if you would still increase the angle of incidence on one or both of the wings? I've seen several of your videos and this is the only model I'm seeing you mention that on. It would be easy to increase the angle of incidence on the upper wing, probably a little harder on the bottom wing.
Patrick: If you add a bit of positive incidence to just the top wing, should work just fine. Tim
I've using those micro motors for a while but they don't seem to last long. I guess they have metal brushes that wear out quickly.
Yes, and they are delicate. One bad jolt and a solder joint can break, etc. Tim
Hi Mr.McKay, what specific weight and type of the monocot you used, would Myler covering ( No. 2 or 3 ) would be a good idea for weight saving.
Mahir, thanks for checking in! Regarding the iron on covering, you'll have to hunt around a bit. I know Horizon Hobby has Solite covering, which is a lightweight iron on covering. Other brand names would be ParkLite. I cannot recall the MonoKote light weight covering, not sure if they even make it now. I am not familiar with the Mylar covering . . . idea is for the covering to be as light as possible. And in this regard, tissue is a great option as well. Tim
Mahir Wrobleski 5
Tim, I recently aquired an Aeronca. It looks like the plastic for the windows will work well for hinge material. Have you tried that? If so, does it work?
William: I have not tried it, but should work. Clear Scotch tape works fine as well for these smaller models. Tim
Hi! I intend to convert the Guillows Focke Wulff from elastic to electric. Could you give some tips or list the "combo" of the electronics (engine, propeller, servos, esc etc)? I'm a beginner in the hobby ... thank you!!
Walter: I think an www.AltitudeHobbies.co Suppo A1504 brushless motor, 5X3 prop, Spektrum AR620 receiver, Castle Talon 15 ESC and Hitec HS-40 servos would be a great start. Good luck! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Thanks a lot! Always following your videos...
Hi there, I am building the guillows 24” piper super cub and love the look of the monokote on your build ! What’s the name of this and where can it be bought ?
Sam: I use ParkLite covering, on either Amazon or www.HorizonHobby.com Tim
Thanks a lot ! Your video have been great help to ! Keep it up 👍
👍🏻 Tim
Beautiful work! What is the all up weight?
Marco: Three (3) ounces with the ParkZone micro electronics. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Thank you
I wonder Clear red and yellow skin Product information.
Would you please share those skin product information?
Iron-on “lite” coverings, all transparent colors. Tim
do you think lengthening the wing is a good idea?
You can. This will reduce the wing loading a bit, but add some amount of weight. Tim
Tim build a L 19 bird dog please
Tommy: The Guillows Bird Dog is a 19" wing span. Model just a bit too small for an RC conversion. Now if I can find a larger Bird Dog . . . Tim
Did I miss asking the Propeller size?
I use the propeller recommended by Steven Aero for their micro motor. The prop is typically listed under the micro aircraft page, under "Parts Needed." Tim
Where do you get the r/c motor assembly?
Jessica: I purchase the ParkZone micro electronics at www.StevensAero.com
See video: czcams.com/video/Erxv9bqzZDw/video.html
Tim
@@TimMcKay56 those are discontinued....per webpage getting ready to build Guillows balsa Edge 540
I wish at 15:56 you hadn't skipped all the brick installation, servo hookup and covering. Those are real challenges.
CC: Did not mean to cut you out of the pattern, thanks for bringing this up. I do think I cover this in the Arrow and Pilatus videos. But I will convert a Guillows Cub in the next few months, will make a focus video on both covering and installation of the brick. Tim
I'm sure I speak for many when I say thanks for these videos. They are really helpful and fun to watch. You motivated me to buy an Aeronca kit and I'm in the process of building it now.
I definitely did the single wing mod you detailed in the video.
I am installing the eflight AS3x brushless esc brick and park 180 motor on mine.
Thanks again.
CC: Best of luck with your Aeronca! Tim
does the plane have servos
John: Yes. Two tiny linear servos are built into the receiver/ESC “brick”. Tim
It is absolutely beautiful. But, why I am always a bit disappointed when I see an electric motor, not a COX in these? Perhaps because I am 60 and got used to glow plug engines and Guillows kits ,and learned to love them in the Seventies here in Finland. Still, it feels like not doing what the instructions show. You can still get those 0.10 :s and 0.20 :ies from Cox International or EBAY, so using the electric motor is like a straight man buying an electric car. Sorry, I just love the smell of castor oil a bit too much, apparently...
Timo: Thanks for checking in! Yes, I recall many flights with models and the Cox engines. I'd say that with the smaller Guillows models, the lack of vibration from an electric motor, plus the easy ability to throttle power, makes the electric choice a bit easier. Also, less noise for backyard flying. Tim