BOLTR: Paslode Nailer | How do butane nailers work?

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2019
  • How do butane and lithium brad nailers work. This is a Paslode, but Makita, Bostitch and Hitachi gas nailers work the same way. I appreciate your help and feedback making these VJOs. Patrons get early access here / ave
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  • @DansKoiPond
    @DansKoiPond Před 5 lety +216

    The hook is good for pulling down your trousers.

  • @lindseyhinck6298
    @lindseyhinck6298 Před 5 lety +262

    As a old gray bearded wood butcher I’ve had a love hate relationship with impulse guns since the late 80’s when they use to be black instead of orange. There great when your up on scaffolding or putting up trusses, sub facia etc. Inevitably they seem to run out of gas or battery when ya got something heavy your holding onto or when your twisted around like a pretzel. That being said fuel and battery life are good as long as you remember to take out the battery when your done for the day. Keeping em clean is the key to longevity. When they get dirty they skip and there’s a Teflon like bushing in the bottom acts like a buffer. When the gun dry fires without picking up a nail it hits the buffer much harder than if it had a nail. The more it hits it the more compressed it gets and the further the driver has to go to get back to the top. Which leads to not going all the way back up which won’t allow the nail to feed in which causes a dry fire and so on and so on. Now that’s in the framing guns in the finish nailers not near as much a problem. As far as using in the cold when she gets below 0F we use to keep a couple extra fuel cells in under your Carhartts and swap em out every 10 minutes or so other wise fuel didn’t vaporizer very good we could usually keep em running when air nailers were constantly freezing up. At -20F nothing wants to work including the carpenters.

    • @markbernier8434
      @markbernier8434 Před 5 lety +6

      You got that right. Used to keep the compressor in the truck till the last minute then never let them cool off too much.

    • @Paulman50
      @Paulman50 Před 5 lety +2

      Have to agree with you, i wore out 6 guns in my time on the tools and the paslode was the worst. I gave it away in the finish.

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety +10

      Agree 100% with everything you've said. They were magnificent when they worked and the most irritating pieces of fecal matter when they started to act up or quit due to supply issues. Fair weather tools that gave bragging rights on the job sight. Went through about a half of a dozen of the framers but the finish guns lasted eons. I'm retired now so my share of airless headaches have been handed down.
      Though I readily admit to missing having them in my hand as I finished a project...
      Thanks for the flashback (or is it flash burns?)!

    • @TheFalconJetDriver
      @TheFalconJetDriver Před 5 lety +6

      Lindsey Hinck who blames them? Who wants to when it -20 degrees? I will admit it is between-45 and -65 C when I am working but I am at Flight Level 450. Or 45,000 feet approximately. 🤪

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 Před 5 lety +5

      Interesting. I have those exact same troubles with the ladies.

  • @0xteknogeek
    @0xteknogeek Před 5 lety +626

    I was wondering what the plan was after nailing that board down...

    • @darthhomie
      @darthhomie Před 5 lety +169

      if you're lookin' for a plan, you're watching the wrooooong channel.

    • @imagineaworld
      @imagineaworld Před 5 lety +28

      @@darthhomie in the words of my wise old uncle, whats the first thing we do when we get to a shop?
      "Lay on the floor, roll under somethin and light it on fire"
      Thats about the only plan we got collectively here :)

    • @patrioticcat5768
      @patrioticcat5768 Před 5 lety +29

      Ave: first I nail this board, then, I nail your mother.

    • @russianbot4418
      @russianbot4418 Před 5 lety +9

      Sadly I have worked around too many guys who have that same shoot first think last mentality when it comes to them with power tools.

    • @daleolson3506
      @daleolson3506 Před 5 lety +1

      Finish the house

  • @arrowracer76
    @arrowracer76 Před 5 lety +84

    Former Paslode tech here.
    The piston is returned by a combination of the bumper at the bottom of the cylinder and an air spring effect.
    The thumb screw on the nose does not change how the cylinder rests on the housing. It changes the height of the nose above the work piece. The housing and cylinder need to be bottomed out or within 1mm of, to fire correctly.
    The piston hitting the internal circlip isn't an issue, there is initial deformation but it doesn't go beyond that.
    Any other questions, let me know.

    • @ChefSalad
      @ChefSalad Před 5 lety +1

      You know, my guess was going to be a combination of bounce off the nail/bottom of the cylinder, air spring, and, thirdly, the vacuum effect in the firing chamber. After the firing chamber vents its exhaust, the remaining exhaust will cool rapidly, both from the reduction in pressure due to exhausting+ideal gas law and due to cooling from the chamber walls, and then a vacuum will form. The same effect (combined with the cylinder becoming larger as the piston moves which just makes the vacuum harder) is used to suck fuel/air into two-stroke cylinders. Is the vacuum effect not a factor here due to some other design element I didn't notice?

    • @arrowracer76
      @arrowracer76 Před 5 lety +7

      @@ChefSalad From my understanding, the cylinder is ported in such a way that the vacuum effect is almost entirely negated. Since that effect is too dependant upon cylinder temperature and condition, it's not reliable to rely on that method. Especially in a tool that gets abused worse than a red headed step child.

    • @ChefSalad
      @ChefSalad Před 5 lety +1

      @@arrowracer76 That makes sense. It's interesting the thought that goes into these things.

    • @dontnubblemebro
      @dontnubblemebro Před 4 lety

      Here's a question for ya. What about the gas itself, are we talking propane, something a tad spicier like propylene for better cold weather performance? Butane would be out since it'll stay liquid at far too high a temperature.

    • @icarpentry8739
      @icarpentry8739 Před 4 lety +1

      I would say That bounce return is why they always misfire.. especially the older models

  • @buillioncubes
    @buillioncubes Před 5 lety +253

    AvE's nailing his wood to the table! I don't judge.

    • @chaosreigns7386
      @chaosreigns7386 Před 5 lety +8

      Sacrificial dead tree carcass much?

    • @buillioncubes
      @buillioncubes Před 5 lety +17

      @Dave MicolichekFor when the vise just ain't gettin' the job done.

    • @richavic4520
      @richavic4520 Před 5 lety +1

      That's an overlay.

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 Před 5 lety +4

      The vise was busy....

    • @brucewayne9300
      @brucewayne9300 Před 5 lety +1

      @James Sloan that's why we subscribe educational, comical, entertainment!! There's none better

  • @t64169
    @t64169 Před 5 lety +8

    AvE! I've watched your videos since 2015. I am in the medical field by trade but love to work with my hands when I can. Tonight I had a bolt cross thread and was debating wether to return the product or try to fix it with minimal tools. I drilled out the cross threaded threads, filed the first few threads on the bolt and got her going. I know that's a simple thing but your videos inspired me to give it a go rather than just get a new one. Thanks for everything.

  • @MothBird
    @MothBird Před 5 lety +166

    My dad was the local warranty and repair guy for these a few years back, the big failure mode for these was carbon buildup on the cylinder causing the hammer to stick

    • @neon922
      @neon922 Před 5 lety +8

      Dang that's a lot of nailing

    • @kkenmore63
      @kkenmore63 Před 5 lety +65

      You're supposed to clean those every once and a while. Nobody ever does, though. But is says right in the instructions, nobody reads those either.

    • @Invoilabilis
      @Invoilabilis Před 5 lety +11

      Doesn't take long either. If you are a pro and use that hunk of garbage daily it will start misfiring (and wasting expensive gas after only a couple weeks.
      Truly I hate that machine. Over 10 yrs with that hell in my hands costing me money,productivity and spewing toxic crap into my lungs

    • @MothBird
      @MothBird Před 5 lety +11

      @@kkenmore63 most of the real bad ones had the rear filter removed, warranty void lol

    • @spoofer20
      @spoofer20 Před 5 lety +17

      I've repaired quite a few of these myself and you are somewhat correct. But mostly plasterdust, sawdust, sap etc. all kinds of crap. I used loctite 7063 and sprayed it around the piston and into the cylinder to get all the crap out and let it drain. Once you reset the piston it should work after a few dry fires. Just remember to relubricate the piston so it doesnt wear out.
      Another common failure is the trigger, sparkplug or battery.

  • @DavesHomeGarage
    @DavesHomeGarage Před 5 lety +22

    I used to work on these daily for about 7 years. Most common type of service performed is your typical clean and lube + replace all the cheap small wear parts...common parts to break: drive pins, spark wire, switch actuators, electronics eventually have to be replaced. People drop them often resulting in the bottom of the cylinder cracking off where the magazine bolts on. All fun stuff

    • @matthewaustin4946
      @matthewaustin4946 Před 5 lety +2

      Has Ave called for help in getting it back together 🤣🤣

    • @DavesHomeGarage
      @DavesHomeGarage Před 5 lety +2

      Matthew Austin 😂😂 I’m sure he’s taken care of it

    • @MrHitchikerOz
      @MrHitchikerOz Před 5 lety +1

      I got more info from you than I did from all of the video Thanx

  • @richardmogel2186
    @richardmogel2186 Před 5 lety +20

    Explosions in your hand on a Monday morning sounds like great start of the week. Butane and coffee does the body good.

  • @FastDemise
    @FastDemise Před 5 lety +5

    The Crazy Framer would love to see this. Minus him working in below freezing temps causing it to loose pressure. The way he treated his Paslode was savage.

  • @alexnikolich2303
    @alexnikolich2303 Před 3 lety +2

    Appreciate the honest review, as always. My Dad was the chief engineer for Paslode and invented/developed the butane series of nailers for them. I told him about your channel the other day. He was amazed to learn how some people can earn some decent coin for taking tools apart on video. LOL This is something I did as kid which obviously irritated him. I'll be sure to pass along the link to him.

  • @festes81
    @festes81 Před 5 lety +9

    I bought one of their cordless framing nailers a couple months ago to build a decent sized shed.. Best tool I own. Love this thing.

  • @andrewtinker7537
    @andrewtinker7537 Před 5 lety +41

    I think it retracts the same way the piston does in a 'flame licker' engine. The remaining hot gasses cool from contact with the cylinder walls, and the vacuum produced pulls the piston back. The gas trapped below the piston helps with this too. That's why there are reed valves on the exhaust; to hold the vacuum after the exhaust.

    • @scottmaher6938
      @scottmaher6938 Před 5 lety +3

      That makes a lot of sense. I also think that bounce force would be a big factor in reversing the cycle.

    • @NWoutdoorsman
      @NWoutdoorsman Před 5 lety +2

      I was thinking the same thing also I was wondering as the exhaust is exiting at a high velocity creating a good amount of inertia by the time it balances out with enough vacuum to counter the inertia the reeds will close causing the piston to return. However usually to account for enough scavenging 2 cycle engines require a longer tuned exhaust so im kinda stumped

    • @danieldraper6662
      @danieldraper6662 Před 5 lety

      My old boss is a tool repairer and said the same thing as it fires the gas go out the exhaust the reed valve closes and creates a vacuum causing it to pull the piston back

    • @GeoCabs
      @GeoCabs Před 5 lety

      could it be that vacuum is generated as the cold Butane is sprayed in the chamber?

  • @0num4
    @0num4 Před 5 lety +92

    My old man has been running Paslode nailers for years. He doesn't buy chintzy tools when his livelihood relies on them.
    If he can't break it in the span of one job, it's officially skookum as frick.

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety +4

      You dad has it right! A man is only as good as his tools will allow him in modern construction. Buy good and the work will be as well! (Because you're not stopping to either fix the tool or the work...)

    • @robertopics
      @robertopics Před 4 lety

      I have one the framing version of this and only once in 3 years has given me any type of trouble.

    • @aterack833
      @aterack833 Před 3 lety

      The trick is to drop it three times on the way out of the store and ask if it’s still under warranty, if they don’t hesitate, you’re probably good, the first day of a tool should be like the last, everything in between is babying it like others do from day one

  • @tjpprojects7192
    @tjpprojects7192 Před 5 lety +1

    AvE and TOT probably have two of the best sense of humors on the internet.

  • @bryanb7918
    @bryanb7918 Před 5 lety +1

    I love when you show me things I didn’t even know were a tool. Knowledge is power, and knowing is half the battle

  • @matts2ndgen
    @matts2ndgen Před 5 lety +5

    From personal experience from framing & renovations, I can truly tell you the finishing nailer and framing nailer are beasts. You'll definitely go through a thousand or so nails per fuel cell and around ten thousand per battery charge.

  • @mduvigneaud
    @mduvigneaud Před 5 lety +209

    The remaining combustion gasses in the cylinder cool and probably significantly assist the air spring return the piston.

    • @jaredcallahan9515
      @jaredcallahan9515 Před 5 lety +11

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @clintlmartin
      @clintlmartin Před 5 lety +36

      Could be a combination of cooling combustion gases and volume exhausted past those Reed valves resulting in a vacuum

    • @wishihadablog
      @wishihadablog Před 5 lety +1

      Seems legit

    • @neon922
      @neon922 Před 5 lety

      Didn't even think of that

    • @maxlogun1052
      @maxlogun1052 Před 5 lety +1

      Agree I think they would be a little bit of a vacuum after the hot gasses are exhausted to pull the piston back ready for the next fire.

  • @pootinhammer
    @pootinhammer Před 5 lety +2

    I love Paslode nailers, so easy to work on and powerful as any air gun. I still have the same ones my father bought when they were pretty new over 15 years ago. Two framers, two trim, and one brad. I use them almost every day on the job and they all still run like new

  • @jordbjor1
    @jordbjor1 Před 5 lety +13

    The “driver blade “ is s7 tool steel and there is no coating it’s from the heat treatment and the thread end is induction heated red hot to soften it so it doesn’t crack the part #1001 i used to make them first operation is blanked out on a Swiss lathe second it goes to a mill with a robot with pallet changer 2 operation in mill one to mill the one side flat and the second to mill flat with the grooves. The robot spits it out and the monkeys tumble part then thread roll. Off to heat treatment then comes back and hand straightened if needed, they normally have a twist in them. The company was a itw company that made parts for paslode that is another itw company. Made thousands of the things.

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N Před 5 lety +11

    I used a framer and it was troublesome in cold weather, but keeping a couple of gas cans under the arms in the insulated coveralls did the trick. Other than that a nice unit. To be used in a ventilated area.....😁
    Thanks for the video. 👍

  • @MrBillrookard
    @MrBillrookard Před 5 lety +4

    I have a Passlode framing nailer, and I've shot tons of nails with that thing and nary a single failure. It is truly super skookum. Best $300.00 I ever spent.

  • @ToolShow
    @ToolShow Před 5 lety +1

    We come for the show, and always stay for the post credit scene. Another great BOLTR Mr. E. Keep'em coming!

  • @mattmacd2009
    @mattmacd2009 Před 5 lety

    Finally!!!!
    I fix these things (paslode nailers) in my spare time, whilst watching your vids.
    I finally get to watch you play with something i know about.
    Whooo hooo!

  • @sstorholm
    @sstorholm Před 5 lety +3

    I’ve had my 90mm framing nailer for around 10 years, and it’s been a trooper. Paslode also has quite good service kits, and you’re supposed to take the backend of it to clean the combustion chamber, hence the fancy HVDC connector and the brass inserts. The batteries on the frame nailers usually never outlast the cartridges, but bear in mind that a 5000 nail box only comes with two gas cylinders, so you’ll be there a while. The gas is a bit weird though, I had an issue a year ago where the gun just wouldn’t fire, no matter what. I changed the cartridge, same thing. Then after a lot of Googling, I found somebody talking about the gas going bad. I couldn’t understand how butane goes bad, but I went and bought a new box of nails to get 2 new cartridges (that’s how they get you, 2 cartridges on their own costs as much as a 5000 nails including 2 cartridges). Sure enough, thing worked like a charm. The expiration date on the cartridges is a joke though, I think they were 6 years over the date before I had any problems at all. So if you feel so inclined, I’d be very interested in the contents of those cartridges.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Před 5 lety +3

      Huh. Apparently they're using butylene and propylene. Odd tack to take but apparently it works. No butane/propane/acetylene here! That's right off the Paslode fuel cell MSDS.
      Fuel's going bad possibly because it's slowly polymerizing, turning to plastic over years.
      EDIT: I see why they're using it, stuff's got incredible stats for the purpose... 2%-10% explosive range, BP is -50F but flash is 800F so you aren't going to get a hotspot detonation, vapor pressure's no more than 175psig at room temp so the cartridges don't pop when you overheat 'em within reason, etc.

  • @vzgsxr
    @vzgsxr Před 5 lety +6

    I've had my Paslode gas framing and finishing guns for 15+ years.
    Used daily, they rarely let me down.

  • @niksemjonovs1711
    @niksemjonovs1711 Před 5 lety

    I have had the first gen finish nailer for about twenty years now. Keep it clean and she runs flawlessly. Same for the framing gun. Great tools they have stood the test of time for me.

  • @sinewave3323
    @sinewave3323 Před 5 lety +2

    U blow my mind with how smart you are with explaining it all and taking things apart and putting them together! Ive bin watching u for a longtime! It feels like years now lol. If i did that with a tool with thatmany moving parts id forget how it goes together again lmao or it would sit there for a while till id re build it again lmao!

  • @raiderguard5777
    @raiderguard5777 Před 5 lety +54

    so it is just a perfume dispenser with a lighter

  • @wg1889
    @wg1889 Před 5 lety +13

    It's not an air spring. It's the rubber bush at the bottom. Take it out and shoot the nailer and the Piston will stick at the bottom. I know because I rebuilt one and forgot to put the bush back and couldn't figure it out.

  • @asstastic
    @asstastic Před 5 lety

    Funny thing you upload this video right now. I just got off work. I am a roofer, today at work one of these come flying off the roof and dropped 15 feet to a porch roof, and then dropped another 45 feet to the ground and rolled about 20 feet and slammed into a large oak tree, but yet still survived. I went down four stories and picked it up and realized it was in perfect working order. The only difference in the 2 we use on the job and yours is that the plastic is darker and has scratches and lots of sun weathering, and the gas cylinders are twice as long, if not longer. And maybe even skinner. But talk about laying some plywood quick fast and in a hurry; lord what a nail gun.

  • @makerwright
    @makerwright Před 5 lety

    My AvE shop stickers came in the mail... they taste funny and come right off in the shower, but otherwise they're awesome. My Thanks to you and the fam.

  • @nuthinbuttrubl89
    @nuthinbuttrubl89 Před 5 lety +17

    I've got a hitachi cordless framer. No gas, things got a recoil to 'er and sinks 3 1/4" full head jobbers good and solid. Haven't missed a beat with that bad boy.

    • @gbuilds
      @gbuilds Před 5 lety

      Amen to that. I'm a full time remodeler who has switched all my Paslode guns to Hitachi (now Metabo). I haven't looked back. Paslode doesn't honor their warranty. I had several brand spanking new Paslodes that spent more time being sent back for service than they did in the field. When they refused to give me my money back for faulty guns (which were only months into the 3 year warranty) I threw them in the trash and started over with Hitachi. So far so good.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Před 5 lety +1

      We usually use compressed air framers, or cordless ones. This Paslode gas framers usually get unreliable after a couple of years, the gas is expensive, and it has problems if it's too cold, or too warm.

  • @Foodhat
    @Foodhat Před 5 lety +31

    Please record one in operation with a thermal camera. Thumbs up so he sees this!

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +1

      That would definitely help answer some of our questions.

    • @Foodhat
      @Foodhat Před 5 lety +2

      @@johnpossum556 Yeah, like "what does it look like on an IR camera?"

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Foodhat Wiseguy. I was hoping it'd help with the debate of what retracts the pistonE.

    • @Foodhat
      @Foodhat Před 5 lety +1

      Hey, you go to the comments section on an AvE video and there'll be a few wise asses and knuckleheads. I'm curious about that too though, eager to see if he posts a follow up.

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Foodhat Wiseasses? On an AvE video comment section?!?
      Naw...no way!
      Never!
      (It's all explained right there in the laws of physics...for every action, there's probably somebody who'll make a joke about it!)

  • @crossthreaded6867
    @crossthreaded6867 Před 5 lety +1

    As soon as you started nailing that plank to your table I knew we were in for a good time.

  • @schelsullivan
    @schelsullivan Před 5 lety

    Glad to be back in the shop.

  • @ElfRightsActivist
    @ElfRightsActivist Před 5 lety +7

    "let's take something a-part and see if we can't fuck it up good and proper."
    The creed of a true, modern man.

    • @jasongr3219
      @jasongr3219 Před 3 lety

      We've always been this way. The world gets built by men fucking it up. Lol

  • @Uncle-Duncan-Shack
    @Uncle-Duncan-Shack Před 5 lety +3

    Had me thinking of our forken lift at work, it operates on gasoline or autogas.
    But the selector is marked lpg/gas.
    That confuses the bunnies all the time.
    So, I guess that this piece of equipment is now on the assembly "Back burner".
    Ready to go from file 12.5 to file 13.
    Good destructional video as always.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Před 5 lety

      OK, so I don't quite get this. LPG is liquid petroleum gas, which is another name for autogas, so what's the confusion, and why is there bunnies involved?

    • @Uncle-Duncan-Shack
      @Uncle-Duncan-Shack Před 5 lety

      They select gasoline and then open the valve on the autogas cylinder. Then select autogas and flood the engine as it now gets autogas and gasoline. Then there's confusion. We refer to someone in that state as a bunny. But my post was off topic anyhow, we shall leave it at that.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 Před 5 lety

      @@Uncle-Duncan-Shack Thanks for the reply. Never used a machine that had both LPG and gasoline tanks, at least not that I knew of. One or the other, and then you don't have to think about just how to proceed when switching fuel.

    • @Uncle-Duncan-Shack
      @Uncle-Duncan-Shack Před 5 lety

      @@blahorgaslisk7763 Yes the older machines are like that. Outdoors we run it on gasoline and indoors on autogas. The engine is a Datsun 1400 gasoline engine with the autogas metering valve fitted in the pipe from the aircleaner to the carburetor. Solenoid valves control the flow of liquid autogas or gasoline. So one has to run the carb empty by selecting no fuel before going to autogas. Those 1400 Datsun motors worked really well in machines up 2 ton, a very cost effective powerplant to build a forklift around. Popular here in South Africa, though they are no longer made with those engines as the vehicle they were used in was discontinued in 2008.

  • @IceBergGeo
    @IceBergGeo Před 5 lety

    Used to repair these and many other tools, which I think is why I like watching AvE so much. His confusion on this tool made me laugh.
    Anyways, the combustion gases are quite hot, and most escapes past the exhaust vent, and then the remaining gases cool down quickly and create a vacuum to bring the driver blade back to the top. And that, is how she works.

  • @Jeppe.P.Bjerget
    @Jeppe.P.Bjerget Před 5 lety

    To follow your videos, i always learn/understand new things about different products/tools/ machines that interest me, and that i enjoy to use. With your ways of showing and testing all this products, i learn what to buy and what could be sold as toy, if you cut the line for the garbage :) For a man who have little knowledge how tools are build up, it is interesting to see how much i have learned since i started to follow your videos. I will first go and check your page (to see if you have tested it with "Perfect" or "garbage plastic" before i go and use my hard earned money .:) on a new tool. And when you got a good laugh on the way, it can be better. Have a hard/cold one and enjoy the summer. Best wishes from Norway

  • @austinworthington7051
    @austinworthington7051 Před 5 lety +27

    Show the dewalt/bostitch flywheel nailers! It’s driving me crazy

    • @drzarkov3345
      @drzarkov3345 Před 5 lety +4

      And look at the new Milwaukee M18 nailers, just saw a vid on those about to hit the market. Looks like butane power is dead?

    • @LoneWolfZ
      @LoneWolfZ Před 5 lety +3

      I've used the Dewalt in both 18 and 20 volt, pin and finish. They are OK, but you need patience. They are fairly temperamental. If you have to do much more than 2 strips of nails, you're better off using air. They both have a spool-up time between when you press the safety and when you can fire, with the 18 taking about twice as long as the 20. It's a fraction of a second, but worth noting.

    • @austinworthington7051
      @austinworthington7051 Před 5 lety +3

      I have a bostitch 15ga and it works great, but I just want to see how it works on the inside. I have no earthly idea

  • @ifell3
    @ifell3 Před 5 lety +43

    This is really good, but you've missed one important aspect,,, and that is how far will it shoot those nails/brads across the work shop. Obviously you have to fix the safety ^&^

    • @NevadanHunter
      @NevadanHunter Před 5 lety +14

      Or just do what we did in wood shop growing up and grab the sides to hold the front piece back while you launch nails at your buddies across the shop. Ahh priceless memories.

    • @IXIskarfaceIXI
      @IXIskarfaceIXI Před 5 lety +3

      @@NevadanHunter how many point did you got each ?

    • @RJ_Taylor
      @RJ_Taylor Před 5 lety +17

      Standard scoring is 1 point for a body shot and 5 for a head shot. 10 points if you send your buddy to the school nurse.

    • @tabbertmj
      @tabbertmj Před 5 lety +7

      I had a nail from the framing verson shoot through a 2x4 and across the room. It was like a bullet bouncing off of the walls.

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety +6

      Yep...it's all fun and games til somebody gets hurt. Then it's point and laugh time!!!

  • @Capnmax
    @Capnmax Před 5 lety +1

    Yes! My BOLTR request got made! On top of the world!

  • @j-man72b72
    @j-man72b72 Před 5 lety

    I See AvE's beer, I had to hit pause and crack open one for myself. Cheers!

  • @koala0884
    @koala0884 Před 5 lety +4

    Oh, how I love this kind of countersunk bolts. I don't need skin on my knuckles anyway.

  • @davidmorris8540
    @davidmorris8540 Před 5 lety +3

    Once again brilliant video, I introduced my apprentices to your channel today. Told them if your going to be on the computer all day atleast learn something

  • @psychosk8er
    @psychosk8er Před 5 lety +2

    I’ve got a paslode framing nailer. I love it.

  • @SweatyHanes
    @SweatyHanes Před 3 lety

    I stand by my paslodes. Best and most reliable tools I ever found in Home Despot

  • @ToTheTopCrane
    @ToTheTopCrane Před 5 lety +3

    Paslode nailers are tougher than....well..nails. I've seen a few take a 30 foot fall and keep on nailing. Oh, and if you are going to see how many nails you can "screw" before the battery or gas runs out, you are gonna have a bad time. Rumor has it that nails don't like to be screwed.

  • @Razzman70
    @Razzman70 Před 5 lety +3

    We use these at work a lot, and they do often misfire when we are working in the winter.

    • @jasongr3219
      @jasongr3219 Před 3 lety

      You want a foam insulated box. Preferably plastic, not metal.

  • @CatsNChickens
    @CatsNChickens Před 5 lety

    Thanks, uncle bumble, for all this free education. I'm sure at this point quite a few of my knowings are thanks to ye. I'll never forget ya.

  • @yippie21
    @yippie21 Před 5 lety

    I have a framer and a trim Paslode. They are both great. The only time I had problems was with fuel. Gotta pay attention to the exp dates. I was doing a job and bought fuel at Home Depot and kept having trouble. I called Paslode repair guy near here and the first thing he said was, check the date on your gas. It was 8 months past due. I took em back, and had just been unlucky grabbing old stock off the shelf. New gas did great.

  • @jhartford58
    @jhartford58 Před 5 lety +5

    "I haven't been this kurfuddled since my first bra strap." Great one

  • @dethadder0
    @dethadder0 Před 5 lety +3

    I'd like to see you make it fully automatic with a selector switch that by-passes the safety!

  • @jasondowse8645
    @jasondowse8645 Před 5 lety

    I bought a used paslode finishing nailer. The plastic is good, no cracks or splits and its pretty old. It started misfiring so I had it serviced. The technician was able to get a read-out of nails fired. It was 220,000! Going strong after the service.

  • @jonstivers
    @jonstivers Před 4 lety

    I enjoy your videos a lot, thank you. I'm a pro finish carpenter. I have found my paslode finish nail guns to be very sturdy and long lived. You might say they are like a woman, great until they go out on you. Also, you have to be the kind of person that can get things going by fiddling a bit with them. I once got one for free 'cause the owner was fed up. I found out that the battery needed to be pushed back in now and then, and the gun works fine. Every so often they just will not fire unless your clean them, and go with a fully charged battery and fresh fuel. I can't compare to air guns because I don't use them that much, but I prefer to use my finish guns after they have warmed up a bit. In general, I don't leave battery operated tools outside overnight in the winter. I once took mine apart -- I can't remember why -- and found it was challenge to get back together.

  • @home541_
    @home541_ Před 5 lety +12

    I remember when I was a kid my dad had a paslode framer. Thing took a few seconds to recharge between each shot and would miss every few. He hated using it unless he was firing only a few nails cause an air could repeatedly shoot as fast as ya want

    • @wishihadablog
      @wishihadablog Před 5 lety +7

      At least as fast as your compressor wants

    • @home541_
      @home541_ Před 5 lety +5

      @@wishihadablog True, it was a 30 gallon dewalt, I think. Couldn't run anything like an impact steadily as it was more Construction oriented. But it ran 3 nailers at a time no problem

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +2

      Air will always be better because they've had a longer time to perfect them. I've paid as little as $15 for a HF brad nailer that worked perfectly with no errors.

  • @SkiDooRydr
    @SkiDooRydr Před 5 lety +8

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  • @trenton1880
    @trenton1880 Před 5 lety

    My uncle ran these nailers for years building houses the big paslode framing nailers they held up really well.

  • @madmullets
    @madmullets Před 5 lety

    I've used the Paslode Impulse nailers in my remodeling business since they hit the market and the only parts that I have ever had to replace on them is that little safety springy plunger thingy that presses on the switch and that was after at least 10 years of use and job site abuse. I have the older style nailers that use the bigger battery and I get 2 or 3 years before they crap out. THey do build up a bunch of schmoo that need to be cleaned out once in a while but all in all that fact that I no long need to drag around a compressor and hose is amazing. Now days they sell the nails and the gas together. its makes it easy to know when your gas is getting close when your at the end of a box of nails.

  • @MrMasterDin
    @MrMasterDin Před 5 lety +3

    I've got an old stationary motor that's pretty much an external combustion engine.

    • @shaunbarlow8993
      @shaunbarlow8993 Před 5 lety

      MrMasterDin pretty much? Hit and miss engines are internal combust steam engines are external combust easy to confuse if missing parts hit and miss have spark plug hole steam doesnt easiest way to tell em apart in the highly unlikely occurrence that its diesel there will be an injector hole

    • @MrMasterDin
      @MrMasterDin Před 5 lety

      Shaun Barlow Haha, no it’s a old international throttle governed engine, I have a video of it on my channel. The valves were just so pitted it blew fire out the exhaust, all good after I lapped them.

  • @MarkProffitt
    @MarkProffitt Před 5 lety +37

    Gas blow back? Basically an AK-47 nailer

    • @szymon889
      @szymon889 Před 5 lety +5

      More like P90 or MP40. Even FAMAS is closer(delayed blowback). AK uses a bit different gas system but I guess you can just hit a nail with that rifle and it'll work fine.

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 5 lety +1

      i can't think of any guns that use a pneumatic recoil system, but this really has more in common with a potato gun than a bullet gun

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety

      @@szymon889 Which? The nail or the a k? 😂😂👍

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 5 lety

      @@CGT80 the AR is not a direct impingement system in any way, DI guns have no piston and vent gas directly into a blind hole in the bolt to push it. the AR redirects gas inside the bolt carrier to force the bolt and bolt carrier in opposite directions like a wedge in order to drive the action. the bolt simply doesn't move at first because it is locked into the barrel so the bolt carrier is forced back until the bolt cams over and is released, venting the gas from the side holes in the bolt carrier. check out a video by forgotten weapons called "how does it work: stoner's AR system"

  • @Delcasa88
    @Delcasa88 Před 5 lety

    Dat "first brastrap" did it for me. Your vids are a great laugh mate, thanks for doing what u do

  • @foundationrepairbear
    @foundationrepairbear Před 2 lety

    Yes! Another great breakdown brother

  • @zell9058
    @zell9058 Před 5 lety +12

    I didn’t know that kind of nailer existed

    • @DavidJones-jp5lg
      @DavidJones-jp5lg Před 5 lety +6

      They're massive in the UK, compressors and hoses aren't that popular over here

    • @snoopdogie187
      @snoopdogie187 Před 5 lety +3

      If you are in the US, I've seen them in ever home depot and lowes, as well as smaller hardware stores.

    • @1320fastback
      @1320fastback Před 5 lety +3

      Have been around quite a while in the US and popular with upper level carpenters and window installers

    • @ZnakeTech
      @ZnakeTech Před 5 lety +1

      @@DavidJones-jp5lg Denmark too, I remember us having a few when I had a short stint as a carpenter about 15 years ago, design pretty much hasn't changed either since then, at least looking from the outside. But honestly they didn't really get much use, they are quite heavy dragging around, so if it was a job where you had to move around alot, up and down ladders etc, just a good old hammer and a pocket full of nails was really the way to go.

    • @twicebittenthasme5545
      @twicebittenthasme5545 Před 5 lety +3

      @@1320fastback Wow! Thanks...
      *he called me "upper level"!*
      And here I thought I was just some poor schmuck with freakin' expensive tools.

  • @murrayhalbert2988
    @murrayhalbert2988 Před 5 lety +3

    Can you hook up a 300 hp NOS kit to that infernal combustion. I need to drive five eights rebar 4 feet into the ground.

    • @rhabenic
      @rhabenic Před 5 lety

      Put a corded hammer drill on hammer only and use that to drive it

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael Před 5 lety

    Great video Ave

  • @mattharris1584
    @mattharris1584 Před 5 lety

    the first year of my apprenticeship as a shitter and machinist were spent repairing these
    you're on the right track with the air spring idea but if the reed valve is faulty the pin doesnt return properly so ive always thought it was a slight vacuum that helped pull the pin back

  • @LeviAEthan512
    @LeviAEthan512 Před 5 lety +16

    Petition to rename Milfuckee to Milwonky

  • @vincedibona4687
    @vincedibona4687 Před 5 lety +7

    "Flingin' Pokey Bits", that was my nickname in high school.
    I'm catching up, Uncle Bumblef*ck! You know me and you love it!

  • @alexdamron3170
    @alexdamron3170 Před 3 lety

    Used this exact nail gun in my vocational class at my school amazing tool made it very easy to nail in tight spots

  • @LETSGOBRANDON13
    @LETSGOBRANDON13 Před 5 lety

    I use these every day, they are pretty tough but you have to keep them cleaned. Used 2 framers setting trusses in 100+ degrees today.

  • @goldfishi5776
    @goldfishi5776 Před 5 lety +4

    Given you can buy large cylinders of butane, it’s unfortunate they didn’t make that quasi-standard refillable cylinder port instead of that tiny disposable perpetual source of revenue until they choose to no longer supply them and then they all become junk.. not good.

    • @j-man72b72
      @j-man72b72 Před 5 lety

      Retro fit a recharge port, problem solved.

    • @ProbeGT2
      @ProbeGT2 Před 5 lety

      A few years ago they changed the size of the cylinders. 1/2 the size they used to be so you can buy more!
      I've worked with an impulse stapler for years. Ditched it for a ryobi airstrike stapler. The ryobi is amazing, until you have around 30 000 shots fired then it starts to loose power. But it never ever misses any beat and the consistency of the shots is very accurate. I get around 3-4 years of use with one. You do eventually need to repair it but with the 3 years warranty usually the 1st repair will be free.

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 Před 5 lety +10

    our window installer had a mini version and while he was showing it off to me he pointed it at me and pulled the trigger to show off the built in safeties.... Just about flipped out on him! Only takes one failure to result in an injury!

    • @Phixx3r
      @Phixx3r Před 5 lety +2

      Just about flipped out? Dudes risking your health could lose some teeth so he thought twice. There's goofing around on a job site and there's also a line.

    • @NoWr2Run
      @NoWr2Run Před 5 lety

      WHAT AN SSHOLE.

  • @BBQandStreetCars
    @BBQandStreetCars Před 5 lety

    This guy is awesome. I just subscribed b/c he made me laugh while explaining👍👍😂

  • @morganfreeman1906
    @morganfreeman1906 Před 5 lety +2

    The satisfaction of a job well done is what pushes the firing pin back into place.

    • @benmiller5015
      @benmiller5015 Před 5 lety

      If people dont read your comment in Morgan freemans voice then there's no hope for humanity

  • @hene193
    @hene193 Před 5 lety +3

    I gues they work well when new. I have one that is 20 years old and it's pain to use. Sometimes it fires and sometimes it needs multiple tries to fire. Pneumatic ones never skip a beat.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +1

      20 years old it's in need of a rebuild, or at least a good internal cleaning. No different then a pneumatic at that age.

    • @garmancathotmailcom
      @garmancathotmailcom Před 5 lety

      Pneumatic, in my experience, starts to leak too much to use after about -25C. Makes me curious about these for extreme cold use cases.

    • @hene193
      @hene193 Před 5 lety

      @@garmancathotmailcom Well it uses butane and it's boiling point is 0C so when it goes even close to that the pressure should drop. And below that it should be liquid aka useless

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +1

      @@garmancathotmailcom if it starts out warm and you keep it going they work good as they produce heat. Still has it's limits, pneumatics useful temp range can also be widened if you have the option to keep the compressor in a heated environment. We used a paslode for the lack of airline when doing that tasks that could be done much quicker without, granted this was over a decade ago so battery nailers wasn't much of an option.

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Před 5 lety +1

      @@hene193 Nope, butylene/propylene. Different beast, boiling starts at -50F or -46C.

  • @junit483
    @junit483 Před 5 lety +11

    After you own it long enough that you're in the middle of a job and have to go searching the stores for the gas, you'll quickly lose any fondness you have for the Paslode.

    • @user-neo71665
      @user-neo71665 Před 5 lety +1

      LMAO, somebody has ran one on the job.

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 Před 5 lety +7

      It's best to have a fondness for planning ahead, carry a few spares.

    • @0num4
      @0num4 Před 5 lety +6

      @@jaydunbar7538 this is the correct answer. These things will run all day, given enough fuel, but you have to have enough forethought to realize they require a consumable resource to work.

    • @RAkers-tu1ey
      @RAkers-tu1ey Před 5 lety +2

      Agreed. Proprietary fuel systems are a pain... just like proprietary batteries.
      I kept thinking some chinesium firm would come up with a refillable canister, but I sold mine before that ever happened.

    • @David-cy5zu
      @David-cy5zu Před 5 lety

      Im sure you could refill it.

  • @LewisRenovation
    @LewisRenovation Před 5 lety +2

    I’ve had one of these for about 5 years. It’s great when it works. But it never fails that when your hanging off a ladder installing some crown molding it doesn’t fire, and then I have to take it all apart and clean out the smallest bit of gunk out of the combustion chamber to get it to fire again.

    • @oo0Spyder0oo
      @oo0Spyder0oo Před 3 lety

      Well that meant you should have cleaned it before starting the day. It won't just get gunk in it if it's had its regular clean out.

  • @MrTay675
    @MrTay675 Před 5 lety

    I love paslodes. Amazing for quick jobs and service calls.

  • @andyluvsvengeance
    @andyluvsvengeance Před 5 lety +53

    That's dope. More things need to be gas powered #murica

    • @schelsullivan
      @schelsullivan Před 5 lety +22

      I should invent a butane powered personal device for my wife's bedside drawer.

    • @apefred
      @apefred Před 5 lety +7

      Look for Hilti's DX series, drives nails in concrete and steel, powered by black powder

    • @wishihadablog
      @wishihadablog Před 5 lety

      @@apefred also into annoying coworkers, without no problem!

    • @richardmogel2186
      @richardmogel2186 Před 5 lety +4

      @@schelsullivan go to hazard fraud. Buy a 420 cc predator engine. Install large counterweight and handles. Don't forget her favorite silicone "implement".

    • @Cr125stin
      @Cr125stin Před 5 lety +1

      Like the Ohlsson & Rice gasoline hand tools. I know they had a drill and circular saw, among other implements.

  • @sp1nrx
    @sp1nrx Před 5 lety +5

    How long before some guy, after drinking the required number of beers, installs a NO2 system one of these?

    • @sydmushas
      @sydmushas Před 5 lety +1

      NO2 is an oxidizer not fuel, wont explode

    • @OGSumo
      @OGSumo Před 5 lety

      Mustafa Hasan I think he means in conjunction with the butane; more oxygen, more fuel, more powa, no?

  • @IndianaDoug
    @IndianaDoug Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the teardown. I have the ASSLOAD framing nailer. Yes that’s officially what I’ve dubbed the manufacturer after the many repairing efforts. I’ve heard the older flavors are build to last, I’ll be a lookin’

  • @brandonrose5214
    @brandonrose5214 Před 5 lety

    As one of the many that likes to work with the carbohydrate foam daily I've dropped the framing guns off a 10ft wall and still worked so plenty skookum for my liking.

  • @joelfildes5544
    @joelfildes5544 Před 5 lety +3

    I’ve got a hammer...several in fact...and my mag is my mouth..

  • @thehares2
    @thehares2 Před 5 lety +3

    an elaborate gas powered air rifle...

    • @kylegoldston
      @kylegoldston Před 5 lety

      I'd be fun to see how the BATF would classify such a device seeing as it would rely on " combustion " .
      But this could be a good way to build a caseless ammo super sci-fi space assault rifle.
      It could even have a semi-useless flame thrower function like in the "Alien" franchise.

  • @haydenevans1166
    @haydenevans1166 Před 5 lety

    Im an electrician We use a paslode nail gun for framing up boards for our wires in resedential. Boss dropped it out of the attic the other week and it took a chunk out of the foundation....and it still worked fine, nothing bent or broken. Pretty feckin skookum

  • @scottlandmcc
    @scottlandmcc Před 5 lety

    Interesting little tool, ty AvE.

  • @TonyFleetwood
    @TonyFleetwood Před 5 lety +8

    Brad Nailer... Hmm I might make that my porn star name... kinda catchy...

    • @prophtube
      @prophtube Před 5 lety +2

      Tony Fleetwood is pretty good too.

  • @dickdelete
    @dickdelete Před 5 lety +3

    Back? You push it back youreself by pushing the orange tip to the dead carcasses!!

    • @dickdelete
      @dickdelete Před 5 lety

      @Dave Micolichek So i was half right, lol. Thanks!

  • @Camstro80
    @Camstro80 Před 5 lety

    Ive used and maintained them for a long time. The only issues ive had is the spark wire can get pinched and short out if you dont make sure its in its groove. And we had a catastrophic back fire that shot a nailbetween the piston and the cylinder wall. It hooped the piston ring but after replacing the piston it worked flawless again. Good guns

  • @danielzukeran7625
    @danielzukeran7625 Před 2 lety

    Thank you again Arduino for the education AND entertainment

  • @JohnSawtell
    @JohnSawtell Před 5 lety

    The pressure in butane tanks vary a lot depending on the weather which might explain why some people say they work better in colder weather. This is the main reason why refillable butane lighters always have an adjustment. This is also the reason why the Bic disposable lighters are using a different gas.

  • @jayr1757
    @jayr1757 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for shining some light on some new technology.

    • @davidjohnston1971
      @davidjohnston1971 Před 5 lety

      Not all that new. Paslode gas powered nailers have been around 20+ years. Just too danged expensive to become popular.

    • @jayr1757
      @jayr1757 Před 5 lety

      @@davidjohnston1971 yeah, first I've heard of em.. probably the monetary barrier you're speaking of

  • @el737rs
    @el737rs Před 5 lety +1

    There's the beer talk at "the glass fLiber..." 😁

  • @HamiltonMechanical
    @HamiltonMechanical Před 5 lety +1

    "never misses a beat"
    you should have been with me and my father messing with cheap cabinets this weekend haha. Don't know what's wrong with his, but must be time to take it apart and clean it! Kept not firing over and over haha thought he was gonna throw it!

  • @deuterium8236
    @deuterium8236 Před 5 lety

    Always nice to see how the competition did it. Air and propane at STP has a flame speed of 8 miles per hour if memory serves me correctly, butane I think would be slower. The electric fan creates turbulence and scatters the flaming gas bits around and precisely not like a camp fire, the mixture explodes. Very shortly later the combustion gas product, molecular water cools and clumps becoming water vapour. The Vancouver BC startup I work for in the early 80s used the water vapour pressure collapse to suck in fresh air for the next shot. The big version drove a hardened fastener into an I-beam to secure metal roofing.
    If you have a close look at the nails the coating is a friction triggered KY style lubricant, better for both parts.

  • @charlie15627
    @charlie15627 Před 5 lety +2

    Good luck with the reassembly
    I’ve had similar jobs and they are not fun.😟
    Great vid

  • @kdigiacomo
    @kdigiacomo Před 5 lety +1

    3:23 I use that in my front pocket when I'm on a ladder or for overhead work. I don't own this gun but have this on my other air guns.

  • @henrinaths1
    @henrinaths1 Před rokem

    Best 15 minutes to-day!
    Thanks Ave.
    (Where are your shorts Old timer?
    In yur vice? 😂)