Is iPadOS 18 a HUGE Disappointment (Or Not)?
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dude, what are you on about? The 'killer feature' for iPad Pro is make it usable as a professional device, like its marketed as. It's got better hardware than my macbook Air, it costs waaay more, but I can't use it to do my job. The OS needs to do multitasking properly, long running tasks should work in the background. Files app needs to be able to reliably copy files. External display support needs an overhaul, with options for display scaling, resizing the dock. It should be capable of playing more than one audio stream. I should be able to use more than 4 windows! It should be able to handle external cameras and mics in an external dock without crashing. Stage manager needs huge work, it should be intuitive to use. The list is massive. Yes, I want to be able to do things on it I can do on macOS. That's not unreasonable with this hardware at these prices.
In order to do your job you have to play more than one audio stream? I’ve never heard the request before. How can you listen to multiple audio streams at the same time?
Is your external monitor support not working? What should be overhauled about taking whats on your iPad and putting it on a monitor?
If you have an iPad Air which I assume you can do your work on, why are you trying to do that on an iPad? I’m really trying to understand how the things you mentioned would allow you to “do your work” on it and why you can do work on it now.
You bought the wrong device for your demands! Do that stuff on a MacBook! It is created for this. An iPad stays to be an iPad and I am loving it to be a touch based device without keyboard and external displays…
@@simpromovie nothing I want fixing will stop the iPad being an iPad. It’s fixing features that already exist - Apple gave us a keyboard, trackpad, files app, external monitor support, stage manager. I’d like them to work properly.
@@JJohnson313 if I’m playing some tunes, and the app I’m using makes a sound, my music shouldn’t stop dead. The iPad is more powerful than my MacBook air and more portable, and I’d prefer to take just that with me. And I need an iPad for note taking, it’s got a 1000 nit screen, so I can use it outside. As it is I carry both devices, but this hardware could easily do both roles. Why the hell shouldn’t this stuff work? There’s no valid reason.
@@paulwoodward8265 I’m playing a game (royal match) with the sound on and listening to a CZcams right now and both sounds are playing. My iPad doesn’t stop. And I just have the M1 version. It already does that. You wouldn’t need M4 to do that anyway.
I was very disappointed. I mean the best feature we got with iPadOS was a freaking calculator. After releasing the M4s I was anticipating at least SOMETHING notable that was specific to iPadOS. Feels like the iPad is the middle child of the Apple lineup 😂
Middle child it is - seems last year the push was visionOS - this year its apple intelligence - can we get a filesystem update for iPadOS next year ?
agree. this is a stupid sucky update. why put the fricken m4 chip stuff into a dumb os?
The iPad got more features than the iPhone did. Would you have been happier if everything discussed in the iOS segment was discussed in the iPadOS section since iPadOS got everything iOS got and then some? Seeing as the only improvement in the M4 was the better neural engine, iPadOS DOES take full advantage of the M4 with all these new AI features.
I am gonna enjoy that calculator a lot and certainly 1000 times more of what I was expecting.
@@Samwarren1982 Apple addressed that when the M4 iPad was released. They said no other chip could run the Tandem OLED, so they had to release the M4 early, as it has a co-processor specific for running and managing the Tandem OLED display. The display chip will be needed for future OLEDs on the Macbooks.
This is probably why this channel has not seen as much growth as it should have
This blind protection of Apple is crazy
WE KNOW THEY CAN EASILY FIX STAGE MANAGER AND PROVIDE PROPER FILE MANAGEMENT
That’s the point
It’s intentional from Apple because we all know they can do it but just don’t
Not everyone wants their iPads to be a Mac. I do not use stage manager, and the files app works fine. You want a Mac not an iPad and that’s fine. The MacBook Air is iPad Pro specs, and runs Mac OS. Also the keyboard is better and works on your lap better.
The iPad isn’t perfect, I still need to use my Mac for fonts. The iPad is a horrible form factor for proper Final Cut and blender. So my Mac Studio is staying anyway.
The iPad is a small device and it’s mostly good for focused work. You wanna computer on the go, it exists. The iPad for what I use it for is perfect, and I can even push the M4 and still have bigger projects hit the layer limit in procreate. Because you can’t use the power, it just means it’s not for you, and Apple’s profit margins is none of our concern.
Yep, people defend these devices being hobbled, I’ve no idea why. It’s not like iPadOS is super simple and intuitive, and I want to complicate it. Just deliver what they promised, make these features work properly.
@@sloppynyuszihe didn’t said to give macos to ipad, but we want improvement. in 14 years one can raise child which can learn maths notes and 3 trillion dollar company after 14 years cant make a good os only thing they did is calculator.
agree. we dont want macos but we also dont want ios in big screen and renaming it to ipados.
@@sloppynyusziI don’t want it to be a Mac but something similar to Samsung Dex would have me buy an m4 13” tomorrow
"some years are bigger updates than others" we barely got any good updates to the iPad experience in 4 years now. stage manager maybe but that feature is also one of the most disliked and unused things ever. year over year we get disappointed. ever since they put out the "whats a computer ad" it feels like nothing has really changed or made iPad more useful.
I don't want macos on iPad. but iPad needs desktop-level features. like a better files app, real multitasking without apps pausing in the background and actual window management, a desktop lvl browser, maybe even Mac app support. the whole software still feels like just a bigger version of ios and a huge waste of space.
I had to buy a MacBook in addition to my iPad just for on-the-go bc I cant do lots of basic stuff on my iPad alone.
your last sentence is exactly why it's the way it is. they want you to buy both.
Yeah. I laughed when I heard him say that. Last big update was 13.4
@@devin2156I do have both… I still like the iPad more.
I agree but love stage manager but feel like they let it hanging
We need a desktop mode on iPad.
The problem is that Apple made it appear as though huge software changes were coming to iPad OS during the iPad Pro M4 announcement. Shame on you, Apple.
What did they say that gave you that impression? Was there a quote or statement that I can go back and look for?
@@JJohnson313 Suggest you watch the event, in particular Tim Cook’s remarks at the end about “what’s to come” for the platform.
@@JayJay-sk3iu I watched it. Multiple times.
@@JJohnson313 Then you missed it if you’re asking what Apple said to give the impression software changes were coming to iPad OS.
I don't use reminders because they don't appear in the calendar...This update is not HUGE, but as you say...with the new apple pencil and all the little things in the OS, I think its a jump forward. Yet, I would like a files update.
I know what the silver amazing thing that is needed. It’s true multitasking mean that apps or programs can run in the background WITHOUT PAUSING OR STOPPING. And I don’t mean my email syncing in the background. I mean a program or app keeps running even while not up on the main screen instance. Until we reach that point the iPad doesn’t really have multitasking. Just a semblance of it. Additionally let me resize all apps to the size I want, I don’t want this auto snapping feature.
I never understood how people considered switching between apps multitasking. That’s literally the opposite of what multitasking is
Big let down :-(
No improvement in Files app since ages for ipad.
And Copying a file in ipad we cannot see the progress bar.
Wonder, What are we doing to do with so much power of the M4 chip when there are no software improvements ?
Whats the use of these color settings, icon settings, as if small kids ?
I was expecting update on files app and stage manager, pretty disappointed.
Wasn’t a loading bar added a time back? It’s just not super obvious. I don’t remember seeing it recently but remember it was there (probably my files aren’t that big to have time to notice).
I just have a lot of mixed feelings with iPadOS. On one hand, I don’t want Apple to simply port MacOS to the iPad as it would just create a whole new problem. But on the other hand, I can understand people feeling frustrated that spending over a grand on an iPad still wouldn’t allow you to do certain things like running apps in the background. Ultimately, I’m in the disappointment camp just because Apple should give some desperate attention to iPadOS besides the calculator app. Ok, they got that meme complaint out of the way. Now can they fix things that people asked them to fix?
Apple need to solve for 4-5 use cases of the iPad using iPadOS - 1 - Everyman user - here apple needs to make it easy to open a file in your chosen app from the filesystem - eg press and hold for context menu, can now open the file in the app of choice - rather than open the app then find the file
2 - creators - these people need access to the extra ram and improved filesystem behavior - file compression, file transfer - should work in background and have a progress bar, maybe in a Dynamic Island - being able to tag files and auto create directory’s would be nice too
3 - podcasters - these guys need to be able to separate audio streams from zoom, FaceTime, select where they want the audio to come from
4 - people who use peripherals and external monitors - here we need to be able to format a drive, add a microphone, external webcam - support 2 monitors, have the new tiles feature in stage manager , maybe run more than 4 apps in each center stage, easily add and remove an app to a stage or run multiple instances of the same app in different stages more easily
@@donyoung333 Sounds like you need a laptop and let the iPad do what it was designed for. Be a tablet!
Dude.....My M4 iPad could launch a SpaceX ship and we got little improvements. Now, That being said, I love the new iPad regardless. Oh, and you definitely give Apple a pass, Lol. Thanks for trying to make us feel better.
He's a total shill.
Not disappointed at all. Actually very excited about Apple Intelligence and an improved Siri! Didn’t have any expectations and find I can get most of my work done on the iPad. Still have a small list of things I would like improved, but none are a deal killer.
I was very excited for everything the had to say this year. Sadly I don’t have the newest iPhone but I like what is coming in Apple devices.
As a whole, I am disappointed in the tech-verse. The world is so concerned about being “green” & protecting the planet but when it comes to tech gear, it’s a throw away start anew mentality. Equipment needs to last longer & be a lot more upgradable than what it is now. I understand there will always be an end of life date for everything but with tech, life of equipment is EXTREMELY short. Change this & I’ll be impressed!
Truly environmentally conscious/friendly products should be ones that can last for 10’s of years not 2 years…
The second iPad Pro that came out over 6 years ago, still gets the latest OS update. The OG iPad Pro still gets security updates, so it still works for most people’s needs. Apple isn’t the most guilty when it comes to making devices obsolete quick. Just look over on the Android side. They promise 7 years support starting this year, but let’s see. This isn’t their track record yet.
I had a 2018 iPad Pro back when it released. It got me through college and was a great little 11 inch tablet/computer until I switched to an M1 MacBook Pro. The file managements and desktop features and applications made me decide to downsize my iPad to the 6th Gen iPad mini.
I’ve been using this MacBook Pro/iPad combo for years now and been thrilled.
iPadOS really needs some improvements in specific areas but I think overall it’s the perfect tablet OS for what it is. It compliments MacOS but it doesn’t replace it.
Totally agree
Love what you’re doing
The thing for me is an improved Stage Manager that allows better stage and window management plus improved Files app, neither of which even require an M4 chip
Most people seem to just want a touch screen Mac… and that’s not what the iPad is 🤷🏻♂️
I went from the 2018 11inch iPad Pro to the M4 iPad Pro and it’s a big improvement.
It’s all about how the apps take advantage of the iPads power and features. iPad OS itself really isn’t in bad shape
Agreed
This for real! I don’t want iPad to become a touch-screen Mac… if I wanted a Mac I would just have bought a Mac. I think people don’t understand that a tablet is meant for people who use it to draw, note take, light game on the go, animate, read ebooks, etc.; things that need the touch and pen capabilities to function effectively. In my opinion , having a keyboard to type on is a welcome bonus, not a necessary one
@@NomadicSims well said
I made the exact same upgrade. I’ve got the 13 inch M4 now, and I love it so far. Blazing fast, and just overall better in every way.
Agreed.
Glad I never upgraded from my m1 ipad pro. In Ipados 18, there is going to be no difference between the M1 and M4.
Got me the oled and new Apple Pencil is all what I needed/wished to upgrade.
@@manart65061000 for oled? No thanks better use the money on something useful
Very good software features additions in iPadOS-18.
Does not change the Omission of Desktop features that would be more useful such as:
1. File Manager (upgrade eg Finder)
2. Multitasking Manager (upgrade from Stage Manager)
3. Task Manager & Utility Manager
4. Windows Manager
One big disadvantage to iPad OS is when operations stop when switching from one app to another. It doesn’t continue in the background as it does on MacOS. This alone makes the iPad not pro for me.
Thanks Chris and I really appreciate your takes on the iPad in general. I admit there have been a few times where certain feelings I've had about the iPad changed listening to your perspective, such as appreciating it for what it is now and does well now, and not Focusing so hard on what it is not yet. I agree with you 100% that the frustrations I might feel about it are an indicator of how much I like the device - and that's why I want it to be better.
The biggest mistake that apple makes is a missing „Why?“ and a good reason.
Why M4 in the new iPad?
Why do I need such power in an iPad if no app can really make use of it?
They went really well with iPhone Chips in iPads for many years and now switched to Mac-Chips without a good reason and a usecase. It just feels about making money by forcing people to still buy both - Mac and iPad - with totally overpowered chips.
Those aren’t bad decisions - it’s just bad to not go the way till the end. Everything feels not rounded up. And there I feel with all complaints.
There are several of those bad circumstances floating around. For example has the A16 a faster neurale engine than the M2 - but no AI for the 14 Pro. It’s a Cook-Time 🤑, not the the former futuristic Jobs-Apple we all loved.
I think the big thing is Apple have not justified the utterly ridiculous decision to skip M3 and debut M4 in a tablet not a computer
The assumption from all the over the top tech CZcamsrs was that these AI features were so advanced they could ONLY work with some new hardware feature that’s exclusive to the M4
But no…my 3 year old M1 iPad Pro can do absolutely EVERYTHING in iPad os18 that the M4 model can do…which is exactly what they’ve done for the iPhone let’s not forget! AI is exclusive to 15 Pro models 🤷🏻♂️
M4 iPad sales will TANK after this becuase honestly WHY would you get one?!
Dang this guy is a hardcore Apple fan boy. He can’t find anything bad to say. Like no, Apple COULD do better period no “buuutttt”.
There isn't alot bad about the Apple stuff.
Im not a super tech type of person and I only use my ipad for content consumption, social media, emails etc so I wouldn’t know but what are you guys doing in files that you want a significant change? What changes are you guys seeking?
I love the way Haley Worlds showed the features ❤ she nailed it !!!!!!!!! Love yup it video
I wasn’t disappointed. While I know we usually get some form of software magic at WWDC, the fact of the matter is it’s a developers conference, not a consumers conference. One of the things that I noticed and it was very subtle with the number of times they said that the API’s are going to be open to third-party developers, I’m not Developer, but I understand what that means. It means that many of the things people are clamoring for can be done by somebody if not, Apple. But I’m old enough to remember when the killer app was not an apple app, it was VisiCalc.
The whole point of WWDC is to show off what is POSSIBLE when the development community starts jumping in with the new programming options for the os. Patience.
App developers will NEVER have any control over what the OS can do though. They can only create whatever in their own siloed apps
I just want the Journal app on my iPad. I’ve successfully replaced my 2012 mid-year MacBook Pro with my iPad Pro M2. I fill out documents, PDFs, Music playlist, Music in general, CZcams Podcast, Movies (not as much as I thought I would), Freeform barely, Workouts (mostly Apple TV though), Writing music, Work Task sometimes, I mean. I could go on. Several different emails. It’s my go to that feels different than my iPhone these days. When I had the 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, and 4th Gen IPad minis. Those all felt like bigger iPhones. I can firmly say that the iPad Pro M2 with the magic keyboard (which I love by the way), Apple Pencil, is awesome. I’m not upgrading for at least 5 years out or until it’s no longer compatible with the latest iPadOS update.
I love my iPad as an iPad. That said, I think Apple has already created the solution to the “Pro” problem, and announced it minutes after the iPad presentation…mirroring the iPhone on the Mac. If they could implement a similar “Back to My Mac” service for the iPad Pro. Boom. Fixed. Now you get the best of both worlds in the device.
Mirroring the Mac on the iPad?
@@manart6506 Yep. That would certainly get around the lack of font book, true multitasking, etc. while not cannibalizing the Mac business.
It was AMAZING!!!!!!
Well, I can't speak for everyone... but I'd personally been waiting for simultaneously audio playback. This option has been something I've wanted for awhile now.
Currently use Sound Assistant with Android under my Galaxy Fold and given the introduction of Stage Manager... it seems like a glaring omission.
Watching this on my iPad 10th Generation. I use this iPad as my main computer and I am happy for any addition that iPad OS has. Running on iPadOS18 and love the sleek colored icons now.
fair sharing. great. too many users expect different use case for iPad which is not really design for it anyway....
The jaw dropper/insentive for me to upgrade from the 2018 iPad Pro, and what I was hoping for is something like dex. Like hooking the iPad up to a monitor would make it more powerful with multitasking when you want it. 🎉 guess I’ll save my cash for next year, hopefully.
Apple said iPad is the companion to the MacBook, but i feel like iPhone is still more of a companion to MacBook than iPad. I wish we got a new Swift playgrounds that was more capable or more “pro”. adding more extensions and features and be able to continue a project from iPad to mac and vice versa. A way to remote onto your mac from your iPad even if its an annoying floating window in stage manger bring it so i can continue working on something until i can sit down at my mac. Bring continuity camera to iPad or universal control to iPhone so i can control iPad and iPhone with my Magic Keyboard mouse.
I have 5 Shure SM 58’s. Great sounding mic. Durable. You have tamed the plosives by being slightly off axis.
Hey Chris, what happened to your mic stand?
I would love Freeform to support templates and import from Miro
Until they can get macos, iPads will be underwhelming.
Naw. I like ipadOS more. What I do want is the apps on MAC to be migrated and run native on ipados, particularly the creative apps.
I think the new Control Center will be extremely useful for streamlining my workflow! Now I will be able to pin my custom Siri Shortcuts right up in the Control Center for quick access. It’s essentially added half of the macOS Menu Bar’s functionality to iPadOS with the new APIs for third party developers to create controls for their apps. This is essentially equivalent to macOS Menu Bar Apps.
I think it’s because half of the iPad community wants it to run Mac OS instead of just making improvements to iPadOS. Personally the only thing I wanted that they didn’t do was rework the files app a bit
If the AI Writting can make my chicken scrawl into legible words for others to read, that’s definitely a win.
I do wish that they had shared the Journal app with the iPad.
I sit with my iPad most nights doom scrolling and playing games. The journal on the iPad might actually encourage me to use it more.
I am stil in love with my M4 iPad Pro. We will eventually get there, but I am quite happy where we are now. What I am missing is the Journal app on iPad.
Yes, 1 or 2 things I am craving in Files app, but those are minor and I can live without them.
I want an evolved docked desktop mode with a proper cursor and the ability to run Mac Software. 99% of the professional software I use on a daily basis does not exist on the iPad.
Can we get iPhone mirroring to iPad too please ?
What would be the silver bullet for the M4 iPadPro? Things4 lol…..could they push the chip to the limit?
I’m very glad I decided to upgrade my Air 4 - - - to the big M1 Pro instead, getting it with a huge discount. After going back to the bigger iPad and using it for work for a couple of weeks now, it’s all wasted potential. Some apps wouldn’t even resize properly. Still love the bigger and brighter screen though.
Thanks Chris! You offer a lot, included tools, podcast and a positive outlook, congratulations on always keeping focused with forward momentum 🎉🎉
As a software developer, it’s terminal. It can even be a lite version. I just want the ability to download any python library I want on the iPad. That singular feature is my silver bullet.
There were iOS updates and app updates - ipad just took those things and there was no innovation. format support, printer support, nothing was added and this needs to be done for ipad that doesn't need to be done for iOS - yet its all just repackaged iOS.
I feel like there’s more things to come with the iPad and I like 🎉 the way you keep it positive
For me, I updated my iPad Pro from 2018 so there was some really nice features for me.
But, the one thing I really like to use that I couldn’t use on my 2018 iPad Pro is Final Cut Pro for iPad.
Keep up the good work and stay positive. The iPad is amazing. Thank you for not being a downer and listening to all of these people commenting negative things on your video. It’s hard not to get audience captured and just starting to say negative things to get more views. But i love it!!!! Thank you
I love it and my first M-4 pro 13” 1tb better than my m-series laptop, bought it for what it is a complimentary device and it’s sick. Many things are already shortcuts compared to my laptop and doable workarounds + iOS 18 looks perfect and OLED is the icing on the cake, next I’m waiting for the foldable laptop.
Good points made and I too along with many were disappointed. Vitticci put it well. “WWDC ‘23 was all about Vision Pro, WWDC ‘24 is all about AI”. Really all the platforms received minor updates, but also very useful smaller features. At least there is now more parity between the platforms than in the early days. Apple may well improve existing features at point updates. We saw that with the arrival of the 1st gen Magic Keyboard. Betas are early, who knows what will come in shortcuts and other maybe unlikely places.
I upgraded to the iPad 11” M2 simply because I wanted a bigger laminated display, I have no regrets coming from my retired/traded in iPad mini 5. I’m not using it as a laptop replacement, but I do use it more than my laptop. Videos and movies on this thing are amazing. The iPad is a great casual kick back device. A nice desk, bed , kitchen and toilet companion 😂 I’m sorry for the folks who want to actually work from the iPad, Apple will never let that happen. Purchase a MacBook Air and call it a day.
Imagine having a MacBook Air and had to use the files app. Stage manager (4 window limit and all). And all the other half baked nonsense. BUT if you bought a MacBook PRO you had macOS.
This is where we are at. You don’t want to develop for it fine. Then the most a good one should cost is $399. Don’t give me that nonsense.
I have a Mac Studio and I save the majority of my files in Files so it can access them on my MacBook, iPhone , and iPad. Just a folder in the finder window. What do people want it to do?
When you buy a Mac, you also get a license of macOS. So if Apple ever decides to allow dual booting of iPadOS with macOS, don’t be surprised if you have to buy a copy of macOS too.
I upgraded to M4 from the M1, and I have to say it was mainly for the camera repositioned right 😂 The ipad is my daily driver, but I use the entire apple ecosystem all the time. It’s probably my favorite tech item.
I love the M4, for what it is. But there’s still a part of me that feels disappointed, I really thought there would be another reason for such a jump in processor power that would be unveiled during WWDC. I guess I was expecting something unique to the Ipad but…. No.
My entire workflow is already seamless on Ipad, I don’t feel limited or constrained in any way, so I’m good.
Maybe because I’m from a different generation, I don’t know, but I have a hard time understanding why we continue to make excuses for Apple not giving us what we (the customers) continue to ask for year after year. The customer should hold ALL of the power. Not the other way around. At least, that’s the way it used to be. We continue to let businesses and corporations rule over us like governments. So, we shouldn’t have to “upgrade ourselves” to work around Apple’s business model, but demand they adapt their business model around the customers needs and wants.
When you buy a new iPad Pro, you’re always buying into the future. If you just want an iPad experience, buy a cheaper one - they’re great. iPad Pro is for those who want cutting edge state of the art tech. The new Pro brings a delight to use for me - it’s crazy good - and is amazing what Apple have crammed into a super thin OLED display machine. But dont buy it if you want a MacBook experience
This makes no sense
What exactly is the future you’re buying
That’s the point
Apple knew that a lot of people would buy the M4 iPad hoping for an update at WWDC
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I felt like the video was clearly biased towards Apple’s side. Some of these iPads start at $1000. A calculator and refining Apple Pencil text isn’t going to do it. I want a files app overhaul to be virtually identical in functionality to Mac. Including downloading applications from the web.
iPads can start at less than $300. No one is forcing you to buy the Pro! It targets a tiny niche audience, like digital artists, who can afford or use it.
@@andyH_England Yes, iPads do start at less than $300, and for users who are paying that price they're enjoying a stellar experience for their money. But many advanced users who pay for the pro for its best-in-class hardware are looking for software to make this extremely powerful tablet their primary mobile computing device. Even if iPad did have more MacBook features, it still for be wouldn't replace my at-home mac setup. There are just so many missing features on iPads, and when we are paying so much for this high end device and its accessories, we demand more. It is such a capable machine.
Colored icons and reorganization of control center doesn’t do crap for iPadOS. If the most exciting thing was a calculator, you got a problem. IpadOS desperately needs a files app overhaul, and stage manager needs to be revamped to be less restrictive. iPadOS is smooth animation wise, but to perform tasks intuitively, the OS is constantly getting in the way of letting you do things you want to do how you expect to be able it do it
You don't need to buy the latest iPad. Just stick to what work best for you. I bought the new iPad not because of the M4, but because of the OLED and weight reduction. Pick what matter most to you then.
Yes, I am disappointed. I expected more on file handling, multitasking and productivity. I am not asking for MacOS in the iPad. But I want to be able to use productivity apps as complete as those used in a Mac. For example, Office Apps running those clunky iPadOS versions. It is a waste of time if you want to open more than two documents. And the M4 is way capable of doing that. I believe the same happens with the iWork Suite.
external monitor support is still trash and stage manager just a subpar multi tasking solution!!!
we need a dull flegded mac mode or like a "dex mode" when connected to a monitor or msgic keyboard!!!
i went from a 2017 ipad pro to a 2024 M4 13" Ipad Pro -- it was definitely a magical jump.
Why didn’t these customers simply wait to see what the software improvements looked like before buying? Seems like complaining for the sake of complaining.
Ability to manage background activities is the biggest missing thing on the iPad. I can use the iPad as is, but there are simple things like copying photos from my SSD to a NAS which will not work seamlesslybecause of the way ipados treats background activities
As someone who is always talking about how productive you are and insist you get so much done on the Ipad, to scoff and say you don't have time for gaming on said Ipad is interesting..
I have been wanting an iPad calculator since the first iPad came out. 🤷🏾♀️ My biggest issue with iPad OS was it wasn’t different enough from iOS. It’s very different from iOS now, hopefully iPad OS 18 gets even better. I was waiting for WWDC to order mine, especially since now I know mine won’t be compatible with the new features.
I'm glad that I chose to purchase the 15PM since the AI parts of iOS 18 won't be active for the other tiers. Doesn't make sense, either. All my previous productivity processes for iPads are still on deck so I am satisfied. I needed to upgrade my 2018 Pro, and the decision to change sizes (13 from an 11) has proven wise.
I thought this year WWDC was amazing… new iOS and iPadOS stuff is gonna be great and fun. I am hyped.
I don’t understand one thing about iPadOS complaints: when you compare MacBook Air and MacBook Pro they have the same OS but nobody is complaining about the MacBook Pro not being Pro…iPad Pro has much better specs but the same OS, just as well, but everybody’s complaining…if you want a Mac buy a Mac…iPad and Mac are complimentary, both from a productivity point of view, and both commercially i think…they have no reason to merge into one single thing…
Did not even get StandBy mode from last year.
Massive letdown
Apple makes it so obvious they don't care about the iPad. Why did the iPad not get the window tiling and iPhone remote access feature that the Mac got. Even the note calculator feature is actually a feature that comes to all platforms. Usually they would have waited a year to bring over the new control center to iPad to make it better for the iPads larger screen like they did with the lockscreen. But this time they just had to copy the feature 1:1 because the update is already so tiny. I truly do not understand how one could have a positive reaction to this update.
Asside from Apple Intelligence im quite disappointed in iPad OS. I just bought a 13-Inch M4 with keyboard and it’s great as a laptop replacement but yeah the software limits it, was hoping a bit more from 18. Happy with the next assasins creed also coming to iPad and not only Mac though 😄. And game mode for lower controller latency maybe also a small and maybe unnoticeable feature but nice 😊
I'm not looking for any complete reimagining of iPadOS in iPadOS18, but I was hoping for some better productivity based improvements. The Files app, apps continuing to run in the background, etc. would have been awesome. For example, I use ShellFish to get to my Linux servers. If I shrink down the ShellFish window to get to another window like Mail, neither window has enough real estate to do anything meaningful, and this is on a 13" Pro model. If I swipe away from the ShellFish window while something is processing (like rendering video on a Linux server), it halts, loses the connection, and I have to start from scratch. At this point, my iPad has just become a big terminal window. Now, this is obviously a one off case, but I can think of a ton of reasons why background multitasking would be a huge win, especially on an iPad that has a better processor than my M1 Mac mini.
You should look into using mosh instead of ssh. I'm using it with Blink Shell. I can switch away and my sessions stay connected.
That being said, I want Apple to add a Terminal app so I can run stuff locally.
Personally, I expect better from a company that charges as much as Apple does for their products. iPadOS should be in a better place by now (coming from someone with a pro model and who is not a content creator or artist). I have an iPhone, an iMac as well as an iPad. I as a customer want iPadOS to be unique enough to where I NEED to use all three or at least two out of the three. I’m not asking for MacOS on iPad, however I am asking for a truly, price worthy, unique experience on my several hundred dollar iPad Pro.
Bingo!
The idea of people pivoting is absolutely true. You could give iPadOS everything people claim to want, and they would then proceed to cry about it. ANYBODY who wants the iPad to run macOS: it’s time to grow up. iPad is a tablet, stop wanting a non-tablet OS. It has been shown that a LOT of people use the iPad for professional uses.
Very good - and realistic - comments for us «normal» users.
Hey Chris greetings from Australia. Love your videos. I just bought the M4 iPad Pro for what it is today. Not for what I want it or hope it’s going to be in the future. Its an iPad not a Mac. Granted it’s a powerful iPad but still an iPad.and I love it! To me the M4 is just a future proofing chip for more intensive games or apps that come out later and obviously the new AI stuff in iPadOS 18. It’s just a nice to have. I bloody love this thing. Its joy to use as it is. If I want to have proper mac things like Finder and proper files system etc id buy a Mac.
im on ipad air 4 and a macbook. been thinking to buy just an ipad for all my works (designer), but well i guess thats no use now, not going for an upgrade lol
I am disappointed that my iPad mini won’t be getting AI but I do like reminder in calendar now I can stop using other calendar apps.
What do I want? A better file system! The current one needs improvement. Also, as everyone has said, use more of the hardware’s power.
iPad M4 user here. Dissatisfied, but I expected this. At least Notes has enough features that I can ditch Obsidian / GoodNotes - but still…
My decision to buy the iPad Pro was based on the iPad OS update having improvements that make it valuable. Adding the calculator, was not it. They would be better off working on Mirroring the MacBook desktop onto the iPad just like they did it with the iPhone. I think kids are going to be able to use the Math notes feature to cheat and solve problems without thinking about them.
This event is a clear response from Apple that they believe that iPads are supposed to be serving artists and students only. And any other professional who tries to use an iPad would suffer. Those who defend it are either an artist, which is fair, or an Apple fanboy.
I got an M2 iPad Pro and I am fine with it. I just use it mainly for Sidecar, which is 95% of the use of my iPad. The rest is for notetaking and meetings. I do not need the M2 chip, I got it just for the 120Hz display, it is still LCD (11-inch). I find the iPad Pro appealing if you care about OLED, other than that, nothing special.
I also do not expect Apple to bring a new revolutionary update to the iPad as they never do, but I am totally fine with that and lower my expectations and I am pleasantly surprised with the new Notes features. I care more about macOS, which has Window snapping, iPhone mirroring, and other enhancements across the OSs, like Reminders in Calendar, Notes app improvements, AI integration, etc.
To iPad-only users, this update is a disappointment. I personally don't really relate to that as it is not my main work machine. I updated all of my devices to the dev beta and I am happy with macOS, but kinda dislike the new control center. I am also not a big fan of the home screen customization features
I am not a fan of Stage Manager on my 13" M4 iPad Pro. It hogs too much screen space and limits the adjustment of the window's size. I guess trying to address screen aspect ration? A much larger screen is needed to make Stage Manager usable IMHO. Frankly I miss a more sophisticated iOS when I am using my Apple Magic Keyboard as it does tend to raise my expectations of having a more laptop experience. It is just something I have a hard time shaking of that expectation with the keyboard..
I think Apple was being sarcastic and poking fun when they announced the calculate .. but the math notes looks wonderful! It will take parameters.
Snazzy Labs did a great job expressing the frustration with iPad OS. It needs to have the attention to pull the entire feature set into a holistic OS and not just a "let's add this new paradigm to fix this issue".mentality.
I wish files were better so I could more easily sync my data with my NAS. I wish there was a terminal, and I wish I could write and run python. But my 2017 10.5 iPad pro battery is nearly dead, so I need to upgrade. I just wish there was some functionality with the M4 that would make the Pro worth it. Still undecided on what to get.
Never buy something expecting promises. I’m still rocking my 2020 pro.
Feels very much de já vu (M1 release on iPad and awaiting WWDC to untap the power).
I’ve got an M1 and happy as I’ve hit my workflow that works for it but feel sorry for those that may have got an iPad Pro hoping a few more pro experiences would come round.
Silver bullet for me would be that I can do the same (boring but productive) things that I do with a desktop computer such as
- full office software functionalities like pivot tables in excel
- advanced PowerPoint slide work
Sounds boring and easy but if someone sends me a work spreadsheet… I actually can’t do anything with it on iPad as likely it will have a pivot table in it.
Same goes for if someone uses a complex font in a slide as they used desktop PowerPoint
This makes me feel like £1k is a lot for an iPad as this is a very real workflow in the office.
Seemingly a surface pro can do with half the horse power.
The Files app in the beta is still buggy! I can't move or copy a 2GB file from Google Drive or iCloud onto my iPad. There isn't even an error message! Also when selecting multiple files in Google Drive and trying to move those onto the iPad only a single file gets moved. That's so incredibly lame!
I am not a typical iPad user. I would have liked to see 2 things on the iPad: XCode and a terminal app with full access to everything that Files has access to.
You take long time to sink in what brings to us. I wish they would give us Public right after the presentation.
I was also disappointed, but more by the lack of fine-tuning. The FilesApp, background functions and other "little things" that make everyday life easier should have been improved. I think they had more to do with AI this year.
The AI stuff mentioned With transcription, handwriting improvement even math note taking has already been available in IPad through apps for quite some time. It’s a tremendous disappointment that doesn’t justify the upgrade. If anything the AI will change the way we use our phones.