Zacian: A Superheavy Zone Breaker! - Challenger Approaching

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    Welcome to another episode of Challenger Approaching! In this series, we discuss characters who could find their way into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate or future entries, then go into ludicrous detail on what they would be like if they joined the fight for real!
    This episode takes us back to the Galar region, this time for a more hands-on look at its history and legends. With a second Fighters Pass officially confirmed, Pokémon Sword and Shield's cast of new characters are in prime position to have a chance at joining the fight next. But while talk has almost exclusively centered on Galar's starters, its feature legendaries--and Zacian in particular--are very much capable of bringing something new to a game that is actively seeking out new mechanics and ideas.
    But what could this literal legendary hero offer that'd stand above the rest? And just how would a quadrupedal beast with a sword function in Smash's environment, much less thrive? Let's take a look.
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Komentáře • 446

  • @megametexe5129
    @megametexe5129 Před 4 lety +462

    "A sword is nothing but a tool if there is not a master to wield it"
    Honedge: this sir offends me

  • @patrickthehenchman2679
    @patrickthehenchman2679 Před 4 lety +298

    To be fair, the idea of a Sword Fighter in smash is made much more appealing if the sharp edged metal stick is wielded by a 9 foot dog

  • @superfrubblez6123
    @superfrubblez6123 Před 4 lety +343

    Another blue haired sword fighter huh? I’m in!

  • @airorello6290
    @airorello6290 Před 4 lety +39

    Zacian would be hype.
    Zacian with an Amaterasu echo would be even more hype.

  • @00naruhina
    @00naruhina Před 4 lety +77

    I think you need to partner with an artist and programmer to make some of these characters in rivals of aether

    • @Daniel_Coffman
      @Daniel_Coffman Před 3 lety +3

      Indeed, I think Rivals of Aether or now McLeodGaming's Fraymakers would be a great way to test out these concepts and see if they truly would work as intended.

    • @storm5ds68
      @storm5ds68 Před 2 lety +1

      dude fr, there's so many people having incredible fighter ideas for smash that I wish would team up with others to make workshop rivals characters lmao

  • @UnknownJ25
    @UnknownJ25 Před 4 lety +169

    If we’d get a Pokémon rep in the second pass I’d feel like toxtricity would be a good pick with a focus on timing with his sound based attacks

    • @jackeroni216
      @jackeroni216 Před 4 lety +10

      And probably being the most popular Gen 8 Pokemon.

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 Před 4 lety +10

      Jacob Caruso we don’t have a bard type character yet, so it would be super sick!

    • @donovanjoseph737
      @donovanjoseph737 Před 4 lety +5

      Honestly, I would have been way more happy with another Pokémon than another FE rep.

    • @gengarisnotinsmash...
      @gengarisnotinsmash... Před 4 lety +3

      Please pay special attention to my name.

    • @ADPunk4361
      @ADPunk4361 Před 4 lety +9

      Toxtricity would be a pretty neat addition. I’m not sure if this idea would work but if he had a move that worked like Big Band’s trumpet from Skullgirls, that’d be really funny online.

  • @ToaCody1
    @ToaCody1 Před 4 lety +7

    I'm imagining Zacian counter Byleth's Down Special and the scene of Thor striking Cap's shield comes to mind.

  • @siobhannicolson5566
    @siobhannicolson5566 Před 4 lety +57

    you: talking about how zacian would work in smash, giving a lot of love and care into her move set
    me: I WANNA PLAY AS FAIRY PRINCESS SWORD DOGGO!!!!!

    • @bidinga1480
      @bidinga1480 Před 4 lety +2

      Genderless Mon

    • @Flame-lv4er
      @Flame-lv4er Před 4 lety +1

      Mee

    • @Flame-lv4er
      @Flame-lv4er Před 4 lety +3

      @@bidinga1480 its says in her dex in shield its zamz sister

    • @Madcat56
      @Madcat56 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Flame-lv4er it says that "some say it's zamazenta's elder sister" not that it actually is, and it is genderless in game.

    • @Flame-lv4er
      @Flame-lv4er Před 3 lety +4

      @@Madcat56 it’s called the lore and it is female in the game yea genderless but outside the genders aren’t discovered yet so she is female and she looks feminine

  • @treytonjenkins6487
    @treytonjenkins6487 Před 4 lety +162

    I DEFINETLY think that a non-starter would be my preferred pick for a Gen 8 rep. All 3 starters have potential, don't get me wrong, but I think that having too many starters would start to get bland. Gen 6's "Rep" was a starter, and so was Gen 7, and I don't want the Pokemon newcomers to start to run together. Zacian would be a fun pick, or they could go Toxtricity, or Obstagoon, or Dragapult, or Hatterene, or Grimmsnarl...

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 Před 4 lety +16

      Orbeetle would be another cool fighter. Corviknight too if you could get past the whole flight thing. Realistically, I think Urushifu is gonna be the one who makes it in

    • @TEBArceus
      @TEBArceus Před 4 lety +3

      or snom

    • @elijahbucklin7664
      @elijahbucklin7664 Před 4 lety +5

      dracovish tho

    • @draconocor1309
      @draconocor1309 Před 4 lety +7

      Wooloo.

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 Před 4 lety +5

      The only non-Starters are Lucario, Jigglypuff and Mewtwo.
      Greninja, Incineroar, Charizard, Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Pikachu are "Starters".
      Heck, even Pichu should count as one, since people just treat the entire Evolutionary Line as Starters even tho the 1st/2nd Stages aren't Starters (Squirtle and Pika are the only *real* Starters in Smash)
      PS: I'd love to get Grimmsnarl, easily one of my Fav Gen8 mons

  • @grimaa
    @grimaa Před 4 lety +48

    This video makes me REALLY want her in smash, would be like nothing we've seen before

    • @deadmaniac0472
      @deadmaniac0472 Před 4 lety +3

      Why does everyone refer to zacian as a her?

    • @grimaa
      @grimaa Před 4 lety +5

      dead maniac04 late into the game she is referred to as the "Elder Sister" to Zama

    • @deadmaniac0472
      @deadmaniac0472 Před 4 lety +2

      @@grimaa ah ok

    • @mau228
      @mau228 Před 4 lety +1

      dead maniac04 she is a girl

    • @rileyomadadhain2173
      @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

      @@deadmaniac0472 Zacian is usually referred to with female pronouns.

  • @ryanhach4197
    @ryanhach4197 Před 4 lety +42

    I’d love to see a Heavyweight in Fighter Pack 2.
    I’ve always had a Low Chance Wish for Nergigante from Monster Hunter to make a spot, but Zacian does sound very interesting!

    • @michaelqijieling2627
      @michaelqijieling2627 Před 4 lety +7

      Nergigante would honestly be an interesting and down right terrifying character in a fighting game with his regenerative spikes and all. But if Nintendo were to choose a Monster Hunter rep, I'd feel that they'd pick the Hunters more than anything since they encapsulate the entire franchise as a whole. Still, if Nergi ever got into a fighting game whether be it Smash or a MH spin off, I WILL MAIN HIM!

    • @johnbruneel9012
      @johnbruneel9012 Před 4 lety +2

      Michael Qijieling Oh my god imagine being like byleth and using multiple weapons. Recover could be insect glaive related, side B could be a great sword, neutral game could be dual blades. The potential is endless.

    • @emc246
      @emc246 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm still hoping for Rillaboom to be the Gen 8 Rep. He could be a heavy with focus on range, playing, swinging, and even throwing his drum in attacks. His Final Smash could have him Gigantamax, then grab enemies with those hair bones before bouncing them off of a drum and into the sky.

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +1

      As described in this video Zacian literally little mac, but better in almost every category except kill power

    • @MelvinStFleur
      @MelvinStFleur Před 4 lety +2

      I feel like it's gonna be the palico

  • @ktoon4725
    @ktoon4725 Před 4 lety +64

    Frankly I always thought the criticism was there were too many “Fire emblem” as it wasn’t accurately representing the series the characters come from, not showing/utilizing the other weapons in the weapon triangle. Now being mostly represented through Byleth. Honestly I’m neutral on the actual argument but I thought it would be something good to bring up.

    • @danielbarnes1241
      @danielbarnes1241 Před 4 lety +4

      From what I saw it is swordfighters (or at least swordfighter people aren't bandwagoning on) that are the problem. People got upset and called hero another anime swordsman the moment he was on screen.

    • @harb1ng3r82
      @harb1ng3r82 Před 4 lety +4

      I am a huge Fire Emblem fan and I hate the representation of Fire Emblem in Smash. It’s not just the swords, it’s the fact that all but three of the characters are from the last seven years of a thirty-year-old franchise, an era defined by a generic modern anime aesthetic. There are so many characters to draw from from across the series that could represent game mechanics in different ways, but instead we have a lot of swords.

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +3

      @@harb1ng3r82 I know very little about fire emblem, but the way you describe it I would definitely feel almost the exact same way if I knew more about it

    • @rileyomadadhain2173
      @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

      People complained so much about the fact that Byleth used a sword but we're absolutely desperate for Sora to be in smash.

    • @rileyomadadhain2173
      @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

      *were*

  • @ghostly-toaster3766
    @ghostly-toaster3766 Před 4 lety +9

    Grimsnarl would feel nicer due to his stretchy limbs and a great typing for a moves. He has a lot of potential since he has two unique attacks and we haven’t gotten a grappler in a while.

  • @Obsessor23
    @Obsessor23 Před 4 lety +13

    This honestly feels like a perfect moveset for Zacian. I honestly would be super down her to be in. I'm between her, the starters, Sirfetch'd and Toxtricity, cuz they all have the most personality out of the new games that feel like they'd make cool movesets
    All the movesets I've made for Pokemon typically center around a theme that derives from their design or personality. I've done a Psyduck moveset where it has a headache meter similar to Arsene, where its normal attacks are powered up and completely change its specials from Water to Psychic moves, I made one for Crabrawler where it's like an anti-Little Mac, using its climbing tendency to give it great movement, but making it slower and more opportunistic, and most recently a Mr. Mime moveset where all of its attacks are based on mime routines and pantomime with 'invisible objects' and barriers. I feel like there's a lot of potential in very archetypal Pokemon having very unique movesets

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 Před 4 lety +51

    I want to talk about the zeroing in on the starter pokemon in predicting pokemon smash characters. I remember everyone picking Decidueye before Ultimate released and I was sitting there wondering why no one mentioned Alola forms or Ultra beasts two new additions to Pokemon from that game. Yes we got a starter but it saddens me that people only really consider three pokemon out of 80.

    • @CoolMintMC
      @CoolMintMC Před 4 lety +2

      Same.

    • @kyun0q
      @kyun0q Před 4 lety +2

      that link and bongo bongo argument is so stupid, holy fuck, please be satire

    • @DevdevOnYT
      @DevdevOnYT Před 4 lety +3

      I know, right? I would love to see Buzzwole in Smash

    • @codystork3008
      @codystork3008 Před 4 lety +1

      @@DevdevOnYT that was totally the one I wanted.

    • @rikkawhiterose662
      @rikkawhiterose662 Před 4 lety +4

      I was on the Tapu Koko train since Day Uno.
      (Sigh) He deserved better.

  • @LimaGrean
    @LimaGrean Před 4 lety +4

    As long as we get those sick Sword and Shield music like the Gym Theme, Marnie’s Theme 2, Battle Tower, etc, then I’m all in for a Gen 8 Pokémon, whether it’s Zacian or not

  • @TheCayDawg
    @TheCayDawg Před 4 lety +8

    I'm surprised you didn't include a Zamazenta alt color for Zacian. I guess it would be weird in the final smash to see 2 Zamazentas lol

  • @dr.ninjake
    @dr.ninjake Před 4 lety +8

    Man, I’m glad I’m not the only one who had this thought. Zacian would be so damn cool.

  • @BestgirlJordanfish
    @BestgirlJordanfish Před 4 lety +16

    Honestly, if we can get a swsh rep, I personally hope we get Toxtricity. Poisons and electricity plus music makes fun potential. Having moves like venoshock that can be a command grab that has increased damage and knockback if the target is poisoned. Final smash can be gigantamax and max move.

  • @caleb1861
    @caleb1861 Před 4 lety +57

    Zacian would probably be one of my first picks too. I wouldn't mind Cinderace or Inteleon, but I'm sick of Sakurai taking the easy road and choosing a starter. I want something really unexpected.

    • @Mystic-Aidan
      @Mystic-Aidan Před 4 lety +6

      Sakurai doesn’t pick the fighters 90% of the time.

    • @caleb1861
      @caleb1861 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Mystic-Aidan Sakurai himself said that he chose Greninja and Incineroar. He might not be the one choosing this DLC, but he is the one who's largely responsible for the fanbase suddenly believing starters are the only Pokemon worth considering.

    • @Mystic-Aidan
      @Mystic-Aidan Před 4 lety +1

      Caleb
      I’m pretty sure he’s just given a few options, likely starters, and he gets to pick.

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Mystic-Aidan
      The only ones that Sakurai didn't pick were the Fighter Pass 1 & 2 characters
      Everything base-game was him. If anything only in Ultimate have Nintendo taken a hand into who gets in.

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +2

      Cant wait for gen 5 to finally get representation in the form of darmanitan or something

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 Před 4 lety +22

    I really appreciate the introduction you made regarding the controversy with swords characters. I honestly feel the Smash community has become a bit too judgmental on the cosmetics of characters in Smash rather than judging them based on their actual moveset, and it also feels like an excuse at times to try to justify why a character shouldn’t get in over another despite some of their preferred characters also wielding swords. I’m honestly getting sick of hearing people say that all sword characters are the same and that all the FE characters are just Marth clones solely because they all wield swords as it’s far from the truth

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +6

      Honestly, for me, it's both the lack of variety between fire emblem characters and the sheer number

    • @BulbaWhat98
      @BulbaWhat98 Před 4 lety +2

      missingno miner yeah there are a lot and many of them are similar, but there are unique FE characters, mainly Robin, Corrin, and Byleth, and even Ike has a unique moveset despite only using a sword. I’m just tried of always hearing that all the swordfighters are the same even with the FE roster which isn’t true at all

    • @duragdee2760
      @duragdee2760 Před 4 lety +1

      I agree. It's getting out of hand.

    • @psicopato2460
      @psicopato2460 Před 3 lety

      Why doesn't Ike use his Axe? And why no one uses the Fire Emblem? (I know nothing about FE, just got to know about Ike on CZcams comments and really wish he'd use it)

    • @AlphaC0re
      @AlphaC0re Před 3 lety +1

      *Y E S*

  • @TheKnicks2012
    @TheKnicks2012 Před 4 lety +2

    You have convinced me that this should be the gen 8 rep if there were to be one.

  • @cyntrovert5005
    @cyntrovert5005 Před 4 lety +27

    congrats on finding the most controversial smash pick, making it feel unique, and nailing it.

  • @ASliceOfGamingPodcast
    @ASliceOfGamingPodcast Před 4 lety +17

    You're right though about Pokemon having a really good chance at being a part of Fighter's Pass 2. But instead of Zacian for the reasons you listed like Spirits may or may not being able to be upgraded to playable. The new legendary Urshifu from Part 1 of the Expansion Pass seems like a very likely candidate. With it already being an established fighter in game, a legendary Pokemon, and would could very easily release around the time the DLC comes out.

    • @yunaka_gaming
      @yunaka_gaming Před 4 lety +3

      Fuck, such a boring mon

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 Před 4 lety +1

      Pez Tekken the Pokemon

    • @TheRealZXXZ
      @TheRealZXXZ Před 4 lety

      his entire gimmick being tied to evolutions (see: Eevee) and the fact its event/dlc-only pokemon makes it seems like its not much of a big canidate.

    • @Missingno_Miner
      @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheRealZXXZ Still, the two styles might be an interesting concept for smash

    • @acekirby678
      @acekirby678 Před 4 lety

      With the spirits thing, the Cuphead spirit battle is Samus if you don’t have the costume, but if you do, it’s a Cuphead Mii

  • @bubby-fi9mc
    @bubby-fi9mc Před 4 lety +46

    I take it that Delzethin really likes canines.

    • @lucathompson9937
      @lucathompson9937 Před 4 lety +3

      Who doesn’t?

    • @alexninja1012
      @alexninja1012 Před 4 lety +1

      Luca Thompson People who are allergic to dogs

    • @Luigifan18
      @Luigifan18 Před 4 lety +1

      Well, he does lead Lycanroc's support thread on Smashboards…

  • @oceanbit9068
    @oceanbit9068 Před 4 lety +3

    “A great calamity” ganon returns

  • @deathbystraws15
    @deathbystraws15 Před 4 lety +2

    Not the sword doggo I wanted, but it's the closest thing I can get to amaterasu, so lets do this. Nintendo, make this happen please.

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation Před 4 lety +7

    I still am disappointed we never got that Lycanrok, but I'll definitely take this Zacian as an alternative. Sounds interesting, being such a fast and combo focused heavy

  • @edwardramos4591
    @edwardramos4591 Před 4 lety +8

    Classic Mode Idea: Heroes of Many Battles (Zacian vs. fellow Sword Fighters) (Reference: The form that the Legendary Good Boys take when they don't have their items)
    Stage 1: Corrin
    Stage 2: Shulk
    Stage 3: Roy
    Stage 4: Cloud
    Stage 5: Marth, Meta Knight, and Ike
    Stage 6: Link
    Boss Stage: Ganon

  • @HeroG9000
    @HeroG9000 Před 4 lety +3

    I imagine Zacian would fight like Amaterasu in Okami and that would be dope!

  • @snakeorbreak6258
    @snakeorbreak6258 Před 4 lety +2

    In Spirit Battles, you could probably cheese "The enemy is giant" battles, like Giga Mac, with just Fast Final Smash Meter and Zacian.

  • @joshuayusuf2985
    @joshuayusuf2985 Před 4 lety +5

    I would love see more some canines characters in Smash and that was an interesting character concept for Zacian though I would like to see Amaterasu to be in Smash

  • @kylebeguhl8516
    @kylebeguhl8516 Před 4 lety +21

    I have a new fighter for you to look at. He may be deconfirmed, but I don’t care. Smash needs more villains.
    Who is he? Simple: M. Bison.

    • @keystone5750
      @keystone5750 Před 4 lety

      Kyle Beguhl SFIV Bison main agrees

    • @Luigifan18
      @Luigifan18 Před 4 lety

      I'd prefer Vaati, to be honest. Smash hasn't had a playable airbender yet.

    • @eoinmcdonnell1303
      @eoinmcdonnell1303 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, Smash does need more villains. However, what if we were to get a new series repped in Smash where the playable character was actually the villain? (e.g. Heihachi from Tekken)
      That would be pretty sick.

  • @spadesjrm13
    @spadesjrm13 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey man, while I dou t many of your picks would make it in, kudos for such an awesome, and well thought out concept. While doubtful that it could happen, if any if your recent conveots made it in, I would sure be happy!

  • @necro-esque666
    @necro-esque666 Před 4 lety +36

    I feel like the idea the "too many swords" not extending to "to many fistfighters" holds very little water. There's a ton of fistfighter characters in Smash who have very different moves, visually and functionally. Mario, Captain Falcon, and Ryu could all fall into this category. These three characters, despite being fiery fist fighters, have very different looking and functioning moves. Ryu's forward smash is a kick, Captain Falcon's is an elbow strike, and Mario's is a fireball explosion. Then compare Marth, Link, and Cloud. All of their forward smashes are forward sword slash. It's pretty disappointing. I don't doubt that there's more potential with swordfighters, but Smash seems to continue to want to stick with swordfighters rarely using abilities without their swords. Let's take Marth, Link, and Cloud again. We know for a fact that these characters have unique abilities, so in moves outside of their special moves, let's try using them for that forward smash. Marth can keep his as a sword slash, Link can use one of the giant hammers from the Zelda series, and Cloud can use a magic attack. There, now that's more unique and interesting!
    Ultimately, I feel like the problem with sword fighters in smash is that unlike fist fighters or blaster users or mages, sword fighters tend to have very similar and not unique looking attacks. After all, there's only so many ways you can swing a sword and make it look like a strong attack. If a character has unique abilities, they need to be shown off more in that character's moveset, and I think sword fighters get so much hate because looking over the course of Smash's history, outside of special moves, all the swordfighters tend to just use sword swings. But that's just my take.

    • @bubby-fi9mc
      @bubby-fi9mc Před 4 lety +7

      I mean, they definitely can feel similar, but almost all of the Swordies in Smash have something else to them that makes them different, although that's kinda obvious. Also I think the fisties comparison was meant for rep talk, not moveset talk.

    • @Delzethin
      @Delzethin  Před 4 lety +10

      @@bubby-fi9mc Yeah, my intent was more to point out how one is treated as "over-repped" while the other isn't in the same situation. I don't have an issue with either happening as long as they have something that helps them stand out, but it's frustrating to watch such significant parts of the community say "hand-to-hand fighters are okay, but all sword users are the same". Feels like a double standard!

    • @sethxenofightersofficialx
      @sethxenofightersofficialx Před 4 lety

      @@Delzethin hey just letting you know I'm making a game called xenomon and here's a preview for a update czcams.com/video/9RirgxdJnZI/video.html

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 Před 4 lety

      Red Repose this man gets it!

    • @konojereda1993
      @konojereda1993 Před 4 lety +6

      Red Repose That's facts.
      I wouldn't dislike the Fire Emblem characters in this game so much if they just used their weapons in more creative ways. Just look at the Lucina and Lyn mods for Project M, you can clearly see how characters could use swords in Smash without feeling so similar

  • @Zlypi
    @Zlypi Před 4 lety +8

    I'm curious if you've ever considered going to the folks at Super Smash Flash 2 or people in the modding scene with your ideas.

  • @equinox-XVI
    @equinox-XVI Před 4 lety +2

    Too be honest, I would honestly love another quadruped in smash.
    And I dont believe it would be too hard to make it feel right either. Just make them really fast on the ground, have a fast running turnaround, good air speed, and heavy weight and voila. It will feel fast and stable just like a quadruped should.
    And the idea of further mixing it up with a sword or shield like Zacian or Zamazenta is just something we need in the game and I dont know why the dev's haven't done it sooner.

  • @pepus777
    @pepus777 Před 4 lety +1

    You managed to nail what this character might do shockingly well. Were you inspired to try Zacian by Sylvanos in rivals at all?

  • @SSBJack911
    @SSBJack911 Před 4 lety +11

    I always thought of a Gen 8 Pokémon would get in it would be Toxtricity or Urshifu to die in to the DLC, but the concept for Zacian is too awesome to pass up

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 Před 4 lety +2

      SSBJack911 i’m really digging the toxtricity idea, a sound based fighter, wailing on people with guitars, having huge AOE, some support “bard’ type attacks, and even damage over time from poison attacks?! Sounds like a one of a kind, technical character we could really benefit from getting!

  • @smargio
    @smargio Před 2 lety

    Wow. I'm usually not a fan of sword doggo, but I love this. I'm glad you also included shield doggo in the moveset

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Před 2 lety

      Personally I’ve always prefers zamazenta to Zacian and they did him dirty with the terrible moveset (seriously the introduced an attack that used your defence stat and didn’t give it to this tank nor any non-rest healing moves and his shield prevents the use of leftover so he’s stuck in OU

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17

    This is legit my most wanted new Pokemon rep ngl

  • @cassmoney3160
    @cassmoney3160 Před 4 lety +2

    More swords means more characters that whoop g&w just remember that. Kirby is a sacrifice

  • @autotransportesbocadelrio2610

    Wouldn’t it be great if Zacian and Zamazenta were a single character? With down b, they howl and change either each of them, a bit similar to pokemon trainer

  • @spearmintsaysstupidstuff

    Good movset, I back it completely

  • @ShadowVaria
    @ShadowVaria Před 4 lety +2

    You and Brawlfan should do a video together. Your videos are very good in statistics and exact numbers, though would be great to have some more visuals to see what certain moves etc would look like.
    Though it’s interesting to see another weapon.

  • @shademidnight2451
    @shademidnight2451 Před 4 lety +1

    Finally! Someone else who thinks Zacian would be a great character for smash! Also this would be an amazing gen 8 rep for smash

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea Před 4 lety +2

    I actually love this idea.

  • @TheRManProds
    @TheRManProds Před 4 lety +3

    If We Get another Pokemon Rep, I Feel Like it Will Be a Grass Starter!

  • @EdwinShy3200
    @EdwinShy3200 Před 4 lety +1

    Gen 8 I had the boring pick of one of the starters or a Galan Pokemon Trainer but now I want Zacian in Smash as the Gen 8 rep because this concept for her was amazing, fit her theme of being a knight with honor

  • @acekirby678
    @acekirby678 Před 4 lety

    Might shout something real quick that is important to the “spirit” argument. When the Cuphead spirit event was active, if you fought Cuphead, you actually fought against Samus normally. But, if you had/bought the Cuphead mii costume (even during the event), the fighter of the spirit changed from Samus to a mii with the costume on.

  • @Missingno_Miner
    @Missingno_Miner Před 4 lety +1

    I could totally see one of Zacian's alternate skins being based on the "hero of many battles" form

  • @thegreatBarbossa
    @thegreatBarbossa Před 4 lety +1

    You know, since she moves her head to swing the sword, she probably had insanely beefy neck-muscles.

  • @ProtoBusterSwrd
    @ProtoBusterSwrd Před 4 lety +2

    It's SwordDoggo! This is gonna be interesting!

  • @GodOfThings
    @GodOfThings Před 4 lety +1

    I know this would be asking a lot, but I feel like this episode could have benefited from a few sketches of some of the moves, to give an idea of what you're describing. With most characters, it's fairly easy to picture their moves as you describe them, but for a quadruped wielding a sword in its mouth, a reference would help to better get across what you're suggesting.

  • @dynos1999
    @dynos1999 Před 4 lety +8

    If we get a sword and shield rep I’d hope for:
    Toxtricity: because, huge moveset potential, new Pokémon type, totally new aesthetic, and a type of fighter we don’t have in smash at all
    Or
    Falinx: Poor reasoning, but I just love Falinx lol

    • @rileyomadadhain2173
      @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

      I really like Falinks as well, as they're a really cool concept and design.

  • @Kunage7
    @Kunage7 Před 4 lety

    I really want Zacian!! Great concept

  • @AbaddonEXE
    @AbaddonEXE Před 4 lety +4

    Toxtricity next please!!! Or boi it’s gonna be in smash like it or not

  • @finatict9643
    @finatict9643 Před 4 lety +3

    Mii gunner has cuphead and there’s a cuphead Spirit and the fight is normally mega man but once u get the cuphead costume u have to fight the mii gunner

  • @BigBossMan538
    @BigBossMan538 Před 4 lety

    This gonna be gooood

  • @themasterblaze7563
    @themasterblaze7563 Před 4 lety

    This is really good. I honestly expected they'd be heavy Sheik and you had a similar idea but a different presentation. Zacian in it's crowned form is often regarded as just as good or better than mega Rayquazza.
    So I figured they'd have average aerials, combo normal's, an armored, buffing Down B, Fast smashes and jabs with tons of end lag and maybe 3 moves safe on shield. They'd have good aerial speed, but sub-par jump height and a recovery like Roy/DK fusion. They'd be a fast, even more committal Ganondorf.
    Also i'd make the neutral B like Pikachu's side B and because Iron Head turns into Behemoth Blade. It'd be a fun nod to the mechanic in the game.

  • @florplz2970
    @florplz2970 Před 4 lety +1

    Imagine this a duo fighter of zacien and zamazenta

  • @thequagiestsire
    @thequagiestsire Před 3 lety

    We now have even more hope for Zacian since not 1, but 2 spirits have gotten in.

  • @cosmicspacething3474
    @cosmicspacething3474 Před 4 lety +1

    Can we get one for Zamazenta? With Zacian assisting?

  • @breezedoodles
    @breezedoodles Před 4 lety +1

    I think for final smash should be like lightning chariot we’re you chose a part in the map and zacian dashes forward and zamazeta crash down in the location covering jumps and rolls then it starts a cinematic

  • @ProjectLuark
    @ProjectLuark Před 4 lety +1

    I feel like this would be a good addition to smash. Another great contender would be the upcoming legendary that evolves, urshifu. Releasing urshifu early would not only be a great smash bros character but a great teaser for the upcoming isle of aromer and crowned tundra

  • @mox-Gaming
    @mox-Gaming Před 4 lety

    This would be awsome

  • @Altarahhn
    @Altarahhn Před 4 lety +1

    25:35
    Zoners: "Try to come at me, Byatch!" ('Cause Zacian is purportedly female)
    Zacian: "In the name of the Moon, I punish you!"
    Zoners: "Wha-" (Rekt) "Da Fuk!" 😁

  • @CinnaSwirls
    @CinnaSwirls Před rokem +1

    I feel like Zacian would struggle in free for all matches, but is balanced for 1v1.

  • @compherut
    @compherut Před 4 lety +5

    I’d love my wolf boi

    • @treybrzezowski3259
      @treybrzezowski3259 Před 4 lety +4

      Girl

    • @compherut
      @compherut Před 4 lety +2

      Data Master technically gender less so I’m saying he

    • @compherut
      @compherut Před 4 lety

      Jose Andres Elvir Avila it’s says “some say it’s zamazentas sister” meaning it’s still an it so

  • @lexxaranda9590
    @lexxaranda9590 Před 3 lety

    Actually it can happen because min min joins the roster and created a fighter spirit but with a different art style so hopefully zacian (and probably zamazenta) will join the roster. The reason why I mentioned zamazenta is because he might be also including for sheild reason

  • @jooj3596
    @jooj3596 Před 4 lety

    Homeboy really made Sheik combo food

  • @rileyomadadhain2173
    @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

    I really love the moveset, I just would like to have the Intrepid Sword trigger when they enter battle as well, otherwise it's useless for rulesets and game modes where they only get one stock.

  • @knightknight6933
    @knightknight6933 Před 4 lety

    I was kinda wanting obstagon but this is cool too

  • @alexsanchez2422
    @alexsanchez2422 Před 4 lety +4

    I like the concept overall, though my only beef with Zacian would be the bias it gets. It's got the better typing, stat buffs, tcg card. I just wanted Zamazenta to get something.

    • @jooj3596
      @jooj3596 Před 4 lety +1

      Alex Sanchez Mainly Body Press, it’s STAB, goes off it’s enormous defense and it get’s buffed because of it’s ability. The move was basically made for it but doesn’t learn it

  • @voguefurret
    @voguefurret Před 4 lety

    I love the concept but i think you may have overlooked the fact that Iron Head is not availble for the Crowned Form of Zacian, that's the move that turns into Behemoth Blade once the Rusted Sword is equiped

    • @Delzethin
      @Delzethin  Před 4 lety +2

      I am aware--had to be in order to record that footage! I took some creative liberties there because I believe it makes the moveset better as a whole. Similar things have happened with canon movesets, like how Ness can't actually learn PK Fire or PK Thunder.

  • @enigmathora3958
    @enigmathora3958 Před 4 lety +1

    I can already see someone replacing Ike with Zacuan in a mod

  • @TheZiiFamily
    @TheZiiFamily Před 4 lety

    What’s the matter Too many swordsmen are there? AND YET YOU WELD THE SWORD AS WELL Zaican: *BARK*

  • @DarthMolgy
    @DarthMolgy Před 4 lety

    I would like to see Toxtricity (who will probably be the one to join the roster) or Melmetal next

  • @jonssogaming8255
    @jonssogaming8255 Před 4 lety +1

    I would be excited to see another legendary Pokemon make it into Smash, because I think a lot of the legendaries would be interesting to see in Smash. I think it’s a bit of an missed opportunity honestly.

  • @rileyomadadhain2173
    @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

    I kind of think having something like Pyra and Mythra where they could switch back and forth (with the move Ally Switch which they can learn with a TM) although I'm not sure how to create an interesting moveset for a dog with a shield.

  • @wingedbluj1674
    @wingedbluj1674 Před 4 lety

    What would be cool is their costumes (Yes, both Zacian & Zamazenta) could reference other Pokémon with notoriously high attacks and defense, like Rampardos & Bastiodon

  • @masonhhoffman
    @masonhhoffman Před 3 lety

    You should do one of these with Porky from the Mother series

  • @e3v3e36
    @e3v3e36 Před 4 lety

    So much yes

  • @Flame-lv4er
    @Flame-lv4er Před 4 lety +1

    I really hope zacian is in smash because she would make a really good character in smash

  • @arthur_here2741
    @arthur_here2741 Před 4 lety

    I was thinking of either Obstagoon or Cinderace, but I guess Zacian works too

  • @aerkiocherplayz1674
    @aerkiocherplayz1674 Před 4 lety

    Zacian’s Final Smash oughta be Behemoth Blade

  • @mischief5149
    @mischief5149 Před 3 lety

    Boxing Ring Name: Fairy King's Sword. Which is what it's often referred as

  • @user-wf1nb8cc8o
    @user-wf1nb8cc8o Před 4 lety +3

    To be honest I think Zamazenta would be a much better choice than Zacian. I think the design of Zamazenta is much more accepted by fans, and as much as I hate to say it, his shield like attacks would be more appealing than unique sword slashes.

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ Před 4 lety

      U a red just say ting that cuz you got shield, how would it attack? Just ramming people for every attack? Combine that with a limited move pool, and the moveset would be much worse

    • @user-wf1nb8cc8o
      @user-wf1nb8cc8o Před 4 lety +1

      @@AshenDust_ Not true, I have both Sword and Shield. I personally say this because of how it would look more natural for Zamazenta to be able to use headbutts and charges and rams and such compared to Zacian having what would likely be awkward head movements with his head.

  • @ScileSc
    @ScileSc Před 4 lety

    Nobody would complain about S&S story if this guy was the narrator.

  • @pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC
    @pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC Před 4 lety

    This thing would be a killer
    Give me Toxel that evolves into 2 different.. Toxtricities(?) Depending on certain circumstances!

  • @lnz5660
    @lnz5660 Před 4 lety +1

    Imagine a Zacian and Zamazenta duo. Kinda like ice climber

  • @wambufan608
    @wambufan608 Před 4 lety

    It would be cool if one of the skins for Zacian made a reference to necrozma dusk mane

  • @PixelSkull7547
    @PixelSkull7547 Před 4 lety +2

    can u make 1 for Toxtricity?

    • @dynos1999
      @dynos1999 Před 4 lety +1

      Waluigi Warior
      Music themed attacker, AOE attacks, DOT attacks, and bard-like support moves, those put together would make for a one of a kind character we don’t have in the game yet.

  • @i_hate_cyrus4113
    @i_hate_cyrus4113 Před 3 lety

    Well boy did this ever age well

  • @ragingningen6318
    @ragingningen6318 Před 4 lety

    Could you do a concept for street fighter’s Seth just imagine all the possibilities

  • @OneAndOnlyDanky
    @OneAndOnlyDanky Před 4 lety

    Aegislash would be the funniest character to get into smash. What better way to combat the complaints about too many swordfighters than adding a literal sword fighter

  • @michaelthex2684
    @michaelthex2684 Před 4 lety

    I will say this. I personally would put Zacian and Zamazenta as a duo character like the ice climbers but have similar moves but little different so there weapon's make since for the moveset.

  • @rileyomadadhain2173
    @rileyomadadhain2173 Před rokem

    I'm still confused why the Z&Z spirit gives you sword attack up instead of Giant Slayer when their signature moves literally do double damage to Dynamaxed Pokemon.

  • @bsmooth3798
    @bsmooth3798 Před 4 lety

    I think toxricity has a chance making it as dlc fighter for smash, they also can give him two alts

  • @voidenterprises
    @voidenterprises Před 4 lety

    Speaking of pokemon and swords,a pokemon that i think would be unique and have a unique gimmic,but probably wouldnt get in because it isnt a gen 8 pokemon is Aegislash.It could have a gimmic where you could change your stance at will (Blade and Shield Form) and it would be a new kind of design with it *being* the sword and it also having a shield.Its down special could be the form change,its up special be aerial ace as it swings itself upwards into the air,its neutral special could be shadow ball being a projectile that is slow but packs a punch if hit and its side special could be some form of slash (maybe fury cutter).Maybe its grab could be where it wraps the opponent in the cloth it has.I think he would have 3 jumps and be a heavyweight or super heavyweight (as it is relatively large and made of metal [i think]).I think it would be a great smash character.

    • @jackkemble566
      @jackkemble566 Před 4 lety

      Aerial ace is actually based off of a sword technique of a diagonally left upward the diagonally right upward slashes. Its called the swallowtail slice. Thats the name of the move in japan.

    • @voidenterprises
      @voidenterprises Před 4 lety

      Jack Kemble Cool.My explanation of it flinging itself up still makes sense