connor walsh clearly not okay & the writers ignoring it for 21 minutes and 25 seconds (yikes pete)
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2020
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my boy deserves better than this shit.
All clips are from ABC's 'How to Get Away with Murder'. I do not own anything. This is for educational purposes only. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
may or may not be planning pt 2
The fact that u have material for a second part confirms how much suffering he goes through...
are you make a part 2? please
@@Kat_Dmaorg i will make one soon. i’m a little busy at the moment but i promise that i will make a part 2
@@happywalshx2998 ok, thanks
god connor was clearly depressed and anxious at some point even when laurel told him to kill himself i swear i was screaming she's such an egocentric character and all connor wanted to do was help, plus he's the most human one and yet he suffers the most
mgclyrics ikr! at the end of the day, he was the only one willing to pay for all of their crimes which says a lot about everyone else because connor is the only one who really did the least amount of criminal things and made it clear that they can’t keep doing those kind of things. laurel is so egocentric i agree. she put everyone in danger in s4 for revenge for wes when i don’t really think wes would want anyone else to get hurt, or would want laurel manipulating everyone into what she tells them to do. she used the fact connor hated himself to get him to go along with her dumb plan that didn’t even work. connor hasn’t been okay since the beginning. there have been issues long before he started working for annalise, but they only worsened when everything kicked off. he deserved so much better.
@@happywalshx2998 yeah i know, he's the best character in my opinion and deserved a better development in all the problems he had, mostly his mental ones because in the end he just wanted to live a normal life. i actually feel so bad for him, like the bus scene broke my heart, the fact that he didn't know what to do to stop hating himself and the person he became :(
@@happywalshx2998 Thank you I am so glad there are people who feel my frustration about what happened with Connor throughout the entire show.
@@purelyademonicangel5216 you’re definitely not alone when it comes to this. i could go on and on for hours about how much connor’s story wasn’t treated as well as it should’ve. he had some truly traumatic things that happened to him and they affected him a lot more in retrospect than everyone else. he worked tirelessly for three years to get his law degree so he can help people but those three years of hating himself and sitting in a abyss of trauma all seem to be for nothing. he didn’t end up with oliver then there genuinely wouldn’t be a single good outcome from going to middleton. the more i think about his character the more sad i get knowing just how messed up his life was.
@@happywalshx2998 I could honestly have a full blown debate with someone who thinks he deserves what he got. It was just too damn tragic.
connor was literally the only student who didnt deserve the jail time yet was the only one who got it. he was the only one who took responsibility.
Yeh…
No je deserved it
came here for this!
Lies. So you’re just going to ignore the fact that he lied like the rest blamed it all on Annalise for an immunity deal FIRST!
Jack falahee is so underrated
Right!! The cast deserve such props. But Jack as Connor deserved some awards or nominations at least.
The way “underrated” is so overused. Even Jack said Viola really raised the bar.
@@Arichxc what? i meant that he should be more popular
21 minutes and 25 seconds of me wondering why Jack Falahee hasn't won all the awards
Connor was the only one who felt guilty for the things they have done.This is the reason why he is not okay.He is the only one who wanted to go away from all this shit while others did not.In the end Connor did what made him feel okay again.
I think in annalises has gotten him out early
1. As Lorsti1 originally noted think, Annalise is very possibly laying the groundwork for the defense of Connor in court in her press conference when she makes a special nod to "informants who are themselves victims" of the plot.
2. While on trial herself, she deployed Frank to get the details on Connor's sentence. 3. It's out of character for Annalise to simply let him rot in jail. She's not perfect but think she'd care a lot in this case, and her protective instincts would kick in. 4. It's out of character for Oliver to sit around and allow Annalise to not do anything, even if she somehow wasn't going to do anything originally. He still has means to blackmail her, and also has the info of all that Connor was willing to sacrifice for her, and on top of that he is one of the best manipulators when he wants to be.
5. Even moreso as Annalise copes with grief (.e. Wes -> class action) by defending justice for others.
6. That Connor and Oliver showed up at her funeral. If the last thing between them was her throwing him under teh bus after he risked his life to deliver Gabe's recording to her - and risked his marriage to block Oliver's testimony - he may have, like Michaela appears to have, broken ties. But he's there. And it's even bigger that Oliver is there -- even if Connor could in some universe foraive somethina like that(unlikely, he held the grudge against his dad for a decade and a half), it seems even less likely that Oliver would. 7. That Connor is alive. Not only is he at acute risk of killing himself the longer he stays in jail, but he also threatened Lanford's career, vowing to take him down, giving others motives to make it look like he killed himself. This all fits into Annalise "not wanting blood on her hands" very well.
Yesssss.
@@lunalovegood2093 Your comment gave me hope. I had thought that Analise helped him too. But I didn't have any clue to prove it 😁
also when he talked about how he "didnt care" when wes died, how he was numb, alarm bells were ringing.
!! the fact that no one stopped to think that connor begging asher to keep on hitting him when he's already bleeding, gave no startled reaction to the punch, and not fighting back was clearly a massive red flag to his emotional will always terrify me
Okay but like can we talk about how no one EVER actually cared about Connor? Like this mans was kidnapped near of season 3 by a police officer and people were more worried about how Laurel was feeling AFTER SHE TOLD CONNOR TO KILL HIMSELF?? I refuse to accept the way Connor is being treated. #ConnorDeservesBetter
i wish he could've told oliver how hurt he was. the characters are so well written and the actors are super good in their job and i love the series bc of that
THIS!!!! I AM CONSTANTLY ASKING MYSELF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND THEN IT GETS BRUSHED UNDER THE RUG OVER AND OVER IM LIKE UMM?? HELP HIM??
Ugh 0:24 Made me really hate Laurel. I think she does this later to Frank also. I'm annoyed the show mostly brushes it off too, since people who are actually suicidal aren't really in a good state of mind already.
yeah and none of the characters really called her out on what she says, which is just.... an extremely shitty thing to say
Allaiya that’s so true like Laurel knows that Connor has issues like depression and anxiety and she said that and know one told laurel that was wrong
Laurel became such a selfish and hateful character, she cheated on Wes and after she blames Frank I mean it’s not the fault of Frank if you cheated on your guys with him, just be honest with yourself and your feelings instead of blaming him, okay Connor was wrong in some points but honestly I can clearly understand why he never really loved Wes, I mean because of him and his obsession with Rebecca his whole life was ruined after he killed Sam, he involved him on some issues and he never apologized for that
Connor was so sensitive and became really depressed after Sam’s murder and no one cared about that
Victor Rocha ye but that’s how he copes with his depression and he never said it to anyone who didn’t deserve it or had mental issues
Allaiya true and in season 4 laurel told annalise that she told her mom who is bipolar and has mental issues to kill her self
For God's sake SOMEBODY HUG HIM
I WANT TO UGHHHH
Conner was actually pretty much the only one that had empathy for people even people he did not like. Like Simon he was mad about Laurel's plan. Laurel & Wes set lots of crap in motion that got people hurt or killed then acted like they were the innocent ones. Connor hated Wes for that but still tried to save him when he saw him. Laurel meanwhile endangers her own baby's life.
THANK YOU!!!! Finally someone said it. Wes was annoying until he died and Laurel took his place, especially after she had Christopher. They both thought that everyone must worry about their problems (that they made themselves) and called people sociopaths and murders when they deadass had been involved in multiple crimes. Laurel thought she was the only damn mother in the world the way she was talking. Got on my damn nerves!
I think most of the characters are pretty messed up in this show but other than the red flags from his past, I think the thing that most haunted Connor was Sam and all the other murders. I think that was resolved at the end when he goes to prison. He seems to want to go and that ending made the most sense for his character. Ironically when he was arrested, he was more free than he was the rest of the show.
1. As Lorsti1 originally noted think, Annalise is very possibly laying the groundwork for the defense of Connor in court in her press conference when she makes a special nod to "informants who are themselves victims" of the plot.
2. While on trial herself, she deployed Frank to get the details on Connor's sentence. 3. It's out of character for Annalise to simply let him rot in jail. She's not perfect but think she'd care a lot in this case, and her protective instincts would kick in. 4. It's out of character for Oliver to sit around and allow Annalise to not do anything, even if she somehow wasn't going to do anything originally. He still has means to blackmail her, and also has the info of all that Connor was willing to sacrifice for her, and on top of that he is one of the best manipulators when he wants to be.
5. Even moreso as Annalise copes with grief (.e. Wes -> class action) by defending justice for others.
6. That Connor and Oliver showed up at her funeral. If the last thing between them was her throwing him under teh bus after he risked his life to deliver Gabe's recording to her - and risked his marriage to block Oliver's testimony - he may have, like Michaela appears to have, broken ties. But he's there. And it's even bigger that Oliver is there -- even if Connor could in some universe foraive somethina like that(unlikely, he held the grudge against his dad for a decade and a half), it seems even less likely that Oliver would. 7. That Connor is alive. Not only is he at acute risk of killing himself the longer he stays in jail, but he also threatened Lanford's career, vowing to take him down, giving others motives to make it look like he killed himself. This all fits into Annalise "not wanting blood on her hands" very well.
I swear, if he doesnt have a happy ending im gonna lose my shit
Well..... now that the finale has aired.... I’d say you should probably lose your shit
Well well well ...
Jack Meyer ya i had lost my shit. But he did the right thing and took responsibility. At least him and oliver were still happily married
@@jackmeyer1568 i did it... i lost my shit
@@chandraschannel6166 1. As Lorsti1 originally noted think, Annalise is very possibly laying the groundwork for the defense of Connor in court in her press conference when she makes a special nod to "informants who are themselves victims" of the plot.
2. While on trial herself, she deployed Frank to get the details on Connor's sentence. 3. It's out of character for Annalise to simply let him rot in jail. She's not perfect but think she'd care a lot in this case, and her protective instincts would kick in. 4. It's out of character for Oliver to sit around and allow Annalise to not do anything, even if she somehow wasn't going to do anything originally. He still has means to blackmail her, and also has the info of all that Connor was willing to sacrifice for her, and on top of that he is one of the best manipulators when he wants to be.
5. Even moreso as Annalise copes with grief (.e. Wes -> class action) by defending justice for others.
6. That Connor and Oliver showed up at her funeral. If the last thing between them was her throwing him under teh bus after he risked his life to deliver Gabe's recording to her - and risked his marriage to block Oliver's testimony - he may have, like Michaela appears to have, broken ties. But he's there. And it's even bigger that Oliver is there -- even if Connor could in some universe foraive somethina like that(unlikely, he held the grudge against his dad for a decade and a half), it seems even less likely that Oliver would. 7. That Connor is alive. Not only is he at acute risk of killing himself the longer he stays in jail, but he also threatened Lanford's career, vowing to take him down, giving others motives to make it look like he killed himself. This all fits into Annalise "not wanting blood on her hands" very well.
I was so disgusted when Laurel told him to kill himself. That is the worst thing you could ever say to someone, and I know that if Wes was there, and he heard her say that, he'd be disgusted too.
i think he'd be like, 10x more disgusted and pissed at her considering his mom and ... at some point ... himself
Connor Walsh was, truly, the show's bottomless pit of angst, most of the time.
Annalise was definitely way higher, but they really bit off more than what they can chew with the Keating Five.
they kinda just made him a punching bag of sorts. i guess someone had to be 'the moral compass' or whatever you'd call it. unfortunately for Connor, that meant being in a permanent state of agony and never feeling settled in his skin- leading to numerous breakdowns and realising he'd only be able to live with himself if he turned himself in. it's one of the background things in the show that hurts the most.
he deserved better but he took his own responsibility that’s a good character development
i want to protect him with everything in me
yumeko jabami he really didn’t deserve any of this
happywalshx he really didnt :( i wish we could have a spin off of him living his happy boring life, the fact that the last scene of him was going to jail alone breaks my heart
he just looks so sad all of the time and it breaks my heart :(
what really infuriated me is how he literally got kidnapped and we just moved on past that? like the ONLY person who cared was oliver and they just never touched on it again
Loved that ending "give Connor a happy ending you cowards" I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!
20:55 the amount of times annalise has said "oh the things I've done for these kids with no thanks"
michaela was ready to take a bullet for her
She wasn't doing that for annalise, she was definitely doing that for Connor
Gacha Flower Yeah it was definitely a mental calculation of Michaela thinking “Conner will kill Annalise, but she won’t kill me.” But that’s still a giant risk she’s taking that happens to benefit Annalise
Exactly.
She wasn't taking one for Annalise. She was doing it to stop Connor from doing something she knew he'd regret
If only we could have gotten a spin-off or something with him. Like how he tries to rebuild his career after getting out of prison or ak doing him just one last favour by pulling a few strings and getting him out but in return he has to work off his sentence as a lawyer
4:27
That whole conversation made me hate Connor’s dad so much, like I already thought his dad was shitty but that speech was just too much.
First, being all “I know you, I’ve known you your whole life” is bullshit. Maybe he taught Connor to play catch, but he basically abandoned Connor at age 12, after decades of such distance he doesn’t get to act like he somehow knows Connor better than Connor knows himself.
Then the whole “you’ve never needed other people” thing is just ridiculous. We all need other people. Connor might be more independent than most people, probably in part because he was forced to take care of himself from early on, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have emotional needs.
Yes.
I just really wanted to hug him the whole time i watched the show 🥺
Wow Connor really does deserve better
Connor seemed very depressed in Season 6. Low energy, hardly ever smiled or laughed. Something was OFF in his acting.
@VSeed also after 6 straight years of chaos, I’d be tired too lol
I think it's part of his arc for that season. The depression and guilt are eating him up. That's why he wants to go to jail, and protect Laurel and Oliver.
It also makes sense with the scene of Connor being led away. He gave his ring to Oliver and Oliver said,
“No I'm not doing this. I know better. I'm not signing those papers. You're gonna be happy. I know better. “
Oliver understands and accepts Connor's decision of going to jail, and he's going to wait for him.
@@brandonshaw27 see my reply
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This is the best compilation and now in hindsight we can see he is literally the only character who had normal reactions to the crazy sht they were all participating in.
Telling someone to straight kill themselves is CRAZY whether it'd be on a tv show or irl
I just came here to point out that jack falahee is one of the most attractive men i have ever seen 🥵
Connor said that the panic attack that occurs around 5:26 wasn't his normal panic attacks. So I'm wondering what the heck that was then because that was intense. Was that a psychotic episode or somethings idk? 😳
i feel like what happened was a mix up of drugs, shock and ptsd. mushrooms can make you have really bad breakdowns if you have prior mental health issues, which he does. it’s. very possible seeing asher in that state reminded him of sam and maybe even wes. another friend that ‘died on watch’. he takes a lot of guilt, more than the others, and i feel like he got a little overwhelmed causing it to feel
different because of the many factors that play into it.
happy walshx oh yeah you right. I forgot that he’d taking some magic mushroom.
happy walshx I agree but I also think he might have faked it because after it he reallllly wanted to go to a hospital
He said that he faked it here and in court.
He faked that one
The amount of times my heart fucking broke for connor all over again watching this, my god. ;-;
exactly connor should of been in therapy
my aesthetic he was when he was kid but i definitely agree. he needs to talk about his problems with a professional again
happy walshx how do you know he was when he was a kid bc i can’t find anything on him as a child it’s weird they never spoke about it ?
He's already in therapy. 👀💧
my aesthetic in 3x10 in his flashback with wes he mentions how just got out of therapy and it was the first time he’s been back since he was a kid
They all should have been in therapy. But that's the thing. It could have been a liability to all of them. Think that someone fessed up to their therapist of the murders - and the therapist by law is required to divulge to the authorities if they think the person is a danger to themselves or others in any immediate way. I thought about them all needing therapy too. But who would really keep their secrets? [Edited for typo.]
The writers really messed up. I've felt this way most of the series but couldn't put it into words. I also didn't understand why in the Final season he was the only one being punished while everyone else got their happy endings.
Let them know the truth.
He is so weird without a beard
PLSS WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY
He is sooo underrated ! literally my fav actor on HTGAWM
the zero dislikes makes me so happy uwu
annabel s i completely agree with you! liking sex is one thing, but almost defining your entire worth to it and using as a means of a survival pushes it into the unhealthy category. they paid him dust in regards to his mental health. he has been struggling long before he came to middleton and i hate how they just brush it under the rug. and theoretically connor does get a good ending, but also not really. he’s the only one selfless and morally-conflicted enough to do the right thing while everyone else doesn’t do the ‘right’ thing. however, he does eventually grow old with oliver and paid for his very little role in everyone’s crimes. it’s sad but i never expected him to get a happy ending. the writers aren’t that nice to him.
@@happywalshx2998 i heard that he went to jail, served his time and then got out. and ikr??? like there's having lots of fun, safe, healthy sex and there's,,, doing whatever Connor is doing. i almost want to call him hypersexual maybe as a result of the fact he literally lost his virginity *young* (but maybe not young?? idk whats up with America and underage stuff ngl).
he had panic attacks and was generally unhappy, its- its so annoying the writers didn't do anything with that because it could have been wonderfully heartbreaking/fulfilling to see him discuss and try work through some of that stuff with Oliver. just- just a good plot point to utilise idk why they didnt jump on the angst train with that one.
ive seen some stuff to do with the ending and it kinda sucks that he went to jail like idk what happened with everyone else but- just- d u d e.
and technically he did assist in a crime like im not gonna ignore that bc i love him but he was mostly involved with the removal of the body not the actual murder. idk the details.
i saw a clip of the HTGAWM ending and hes older with them grey hairs but he is standing with oliver so thats super sweet
annabel s the age or consent in michigan where he grew up is 16. so him having sex at 14 possibly younger with far older men is illegal. his psyche is very complex because of the lack of information we know about his upbringing. it’s clearly stemmed from there based on what we know but we just don’t have the full picture. i might do a video on his psyche at some point to help figure out why he is the way he is. there definitely was a lot of potential in this storyline for the show and i wish the writers went with it. and yes! i agree with hating when they slut-shame him. it’s uncalled for. if he started doing that with the women who do it to him he’d end up being seen as a villain. it’s just dumb.
I love this compilation and Connor is my second favorite character, but the one I love the most, but I didn't think the writers ignored him, in fact I believed they handled it in the most realistic way that they could and I even think that having Oliver was a way to give him something good that they didn't give to the rest of the characters. Because no way that they gave him what? Therapy? There was no way. They handled it during all the seasons which is more than many series can tell where a character has anxiety one season and the next one magically goes away.
i agree with this for the most part but they kinda did (at least i saw it that way) ignore it, specifically the bus scene. that is a crucial moment for any character to go through (they’ve done this with frank & bonnie etc. as well) but they don’t really do much with it. they basically just write in a traumatising scene and pretend it never happened. the only actually difference between connor and their scenes with this topic is that there are other people who are aware of it happening. as of canon, no one knows about the bus. annalise knows he felt that way but she doesn’t know how close he came to doing something about it. it’s mainly just frustrating to me. there was a lot unsaid. overall, i think it was realistic in the sense that it was his overarching theme to his character- and i guess set up his ending in a way because he clearly had ptsd and was so traumatised he couldn’t pretend it never happened. wish the writers didn’t just throw these kinda things in and not do anything. i could honestly make an entire analysis video on this subject lmao
Did i hear right that he was basically groomed twice? Or that was him and the other person who was also groomed?
I didn't watch the show, my friend recommended me
I recently woke up so, maybe that's why i can't focus
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Yeah. Connor lost his virginity when he was 14 and the other guy was 18. There was another time with those same ages as well. The one that sticks out the most is the one where his mother knew about it and the guy was 23 years old, and Connor was underage. This seems to be a pattern in his early adolescence, so we can kind of assume there are more stories like this.
hi! i want post more on here but not sure what so if you have any ideas let me know
I mean idk if u wanna do it But u could do : asher wishing he is gay for x minutes
What else did u watch so i can suggest u xd
❤ He's such a great actor
best character ever istg he deserves the world
When he said "I hate you so much!" It touched my heart....
I understand him, I am self destructive as well
Ohh…
the only character i care about besides annalise
0:25 Which season and episode that was?
3.14
5:46 what is this episode?
Oliver’s character was so underrated!!! I love my baby. He deserved the world
Honestly, where was his help
I hated the 3sum storyline Connor clearly didn't want that but he went with it for Oliver
Also he didn't deserve to go to jail coz from day 1 he wanted to come clean
Question, what episode was the second clip from?
3x14
how did I not know this show existed! its so good!
Connor goes through so much! What do was that last clip from?
It’s the first half of season 2. I wanna say either episode 5 or 6
Bonnie is great as a friend, but not so much as a lawyer. There's no talk about Wes, he doesn't suit the role of lawyer.How could you go to bed with him and do some dusiness!
I wanna hug him
This man is so fine🏃🏽♀️
0.34 what episode is this from ?
What episode was 5:26
Daisy Dennis 6.04
what episode is 5:18 from?
not 100% sure but i think it's 6x04
I disapprove of many things Connor did/said in the show, but I do love his humanity and empathy. The truth is, sometimes I loved his character, sometimes I hated it. His anger outburst at Annalise at 7:19 still fills me up with rage to this day, for instance, while his suicidal and depressive episodes make me feel sorry for him. All in all, I think the ending he got in the last season was realistic and fitting.
wich chapter is in 10:09??
Season 3 episode 10
@@happywalshx2998 love you tsmuch
His "I hate you so much" (21:12) is so heartbreaking...
0:34 what episode is this from ?
6.01
Conner was the only one being a realist. The others were all acting on their feelings so clearly clouding their judgement. Like Conner deserved so much better.
Plus I also feel like his and Oliver’s relationship got toxic at some point…
They made Connor a guilt-cantered character and that made it impossible for him to ignore all that bad things they did. Most of the others just seemed to live in denial/ didn’t let it define them. While everyone has definitely had their moments of guilt, Connor has been rooted in it. He was the first one to suggest going to the police and gathered everyone up to do so. Looking back, in hindsight, we all probably should’ve seen the ending coming lmao
this Hurts me
This needs for views
Love him
What episode is 1:22 please?
Spread Happiness 1x08 i think
I'm noticed that I'm equal to Conor... That is messed up man, I'm not a really good person.
11:57
I love Connor.
Boyfriend Connor and Boyfriend Oliver
educational purposes huh
yes. for the kids!
Okay even though he has his issues and anxieties and whatnot.. it’s unfair to be mad at laurel for talking him down! She was Wes’s girlfriend and mother of his child and Connor was very shameless and mean towards Wes’s death before he confessed to everyone.. I’m just trying to say that they’re both in the wrong and both in the right!
the reason he was acting like that was because he was traumatised at being the only one who found wes dead and it was his responsibility to save him, which he obviously failed, but the guilt of it sent him spiralling and into a depression. he suffers from ptsd, and you can clearly see his mental health get worse afterwards. and with all due respect, i don’t think telling someone to k word themselves while they’re clearly distressed is ‘talking him down’ it’s cruel. she even did it her mother and bonnie. people with known mental problems. she doesn’t care. she doesn’t understand the importance of those words. you can’t be mad at laurel for being upset about the situation but you can be mad at her saying those things and then never apologising. and keeping who killed wes to herself before blackmailing everyone into helping get revenge- even using the fact she knew connor hated himself to get him on board with her dumb plan. i mean i’m not saying connor’s in the right of saying what he said cause he’s not but you do have to understand that he was just trying to make sense of it and justify why it happened because he was the only one there and there was no one buy himself to blame. and he struggled with that guilt til the end of the show. out of everyone, he is the only one who actually showed remorse and has tried to stop these things happening. sorry for this long paragraph lmao
telling someone who's clearly dealing with mental health issues to kill themselves is far from talking them down lmao. if she just said a bunch of mean things then sure i would say she did it out of pain but this is never ever right, not to mention she did the same thing to her mother as well. it's messed up