Chat GPT generated Irish Tunes
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I still don't understand why BG Ollie channel doesn't have millions of subscribers. One of the best channels in YT, and the only channel that have unique covers of game themes.
It bugs me everytime.
Nice work as always, Ollie!
Same, the amount of talent is INSANE levels… yet still waiting for the big boom of subs,
It's your arrangement that makes something out of it. Chat-GPT scrapes and recombines things statistically without meaning, feeling, purpose or understanding it really. :) You put emotion into it.
yeah I think that's the lesson from this. It just provides the raw material, but it's how you interpret it that matters
If you really beliefe that Chat-GPT only "scrapes and recombines things statistically without meaning", you're in for a wild ride.
@@Vindolin It does. I've literally talked to ML engineers about this. They will tell you the same thing
@@Americanbadashh They are not telling you all the same thing. Look up "emergent behavior/abilities" of the new larger LLMs. I'm not an AI researcher but I work with Copilot and Bing Chat for a long enough time to realize that there must be more to it. Talk to Bing Chat and let it explain other developers code to you and how to improve it or how to integrate features. I was skeptical too but the more I work with GPT4 the scarier it gets. However, I also believe that it will take much longer for AI systems to take over Ollie's job than mine 😅
In my experience, most of the time AI is like a harmonic train of thought, so to speak. No real phrasing, no idea where to stress for better impact, not a clue how to end a phrase and start a new one. It's like a weird musical fever dream, lol. But it seems from time to time it can produce something that can sound interesting and even inspiring and it's a bit random.
The music really hit me in the feels tbh, stirring stuff. The composition may have come out of a computer, like the ingredients for your soup might come out of a food processor, but I assure you it's how the creative human mind creates and affects the process of it becoming a song that gives it soul. The micro changes in timing when you hit the strings in the guitar or strike the bodhran, the choices you make when setting gain, reverb and so on for each instrument to create a desired feel. Choices made when mastering it for release. These are irreplaceable because the desired effect is based on another person's emotional appreciation of it. The ability to simulate those things will get "better" but ultimately will never match how we feel about art created by skilled individuals due to the difference in how we perceive emotional creativity as people
This video literally got me to studying the low whistle, well, thanks to Mr. Ollie that is. Half a year now, and still practicing almost daily. Every month I can appreciate the insane human skill shown in this video more and more.
Chat GPT: mm idk this?
Ollie: hmm i would see what i can do
*Proceeds to make a new Irish classic masterpiece *
Its truly beautiful what you made of itt. Thank you!
Excellent work! I love traditional Irish reels, and this sounds like something straight out of a Celtic album. ChatGPT may be able to lay a foundation, but it will never succeed at this level of performance.
You know what? I think, if I didn't know that it was ChatGPT's tune I'd totally think it was some legit Irish tune I've never heard previously. Of course your awesome arrangement and interpretation plays a huge part in this, but it's actually scary and impressive how easy it is to substitute at least some parts of human creative artistic process with AI... We are all doomed, but our end will be quite interesting to watch. lol
C'est génial ! Ton interprétation lui donne vie 😉
It sounds beautiful! You made something inspiring from what chatGPT started you off with.
Terrifying. Nice Bouchard you've got there, Ollie.
"We 're f'ckd..." Hahahaha yup...
That's how tools like ChatGPT should be used: as a starting point for your own inspiration, not as it's often done - especially with image generation, as the final product. Well done!
Oh this is brilliant. I have dabbled in this but I never thought to ask for ABC notation so I was just getting suggestions for chord progressions.
Chat GPT may have given you bare bones but your interpretation and instrumental embellishments is what gave the piece life
well. give it a little more time until Artificial Intelligence put real sound samplers on the melody and than you tell him to create imperfections.
i dont like it, but unfortunatly i guess its gonna be inevitable
This is fantastic!!
I keep coming back to this, especially the second tune
Nice ditty. Great production from a gifted musician and entertainer.
Well, at this point chatGPT looks like a very fancy dice roll :) because it's your arrangement and your interpretation that really makes everything.
I was relieved after I counted Ollies fingers.
😅😂🤣
"The nape of the neck" and "the emerald lass"
Glad this tool can get you making this beautiful music.
Énorme !
Holy crap this was pretty amazing! You really made it work.
Brilliant! =D
Without OllieGPT, nothing would have that life in it anyway.
Pretty amazing what you made of this! 👏 Great tune! Reminds me that I need to go visit Ireland again. Also: love the final remark 😂 But hey, Skynet never sounded so sweat 😂
In another universe:
ChatGPT beings type to BGollieAPP "Create Irish tune music"
BG Ollie :
The way you've put these together, quite the masterpieces, especially the second one. Thanks
Amazing arrangement and performance.
Your talent never ceases to amaze me. Great job!
Brilliant
I’d like to hear AI uilleann pipes with the latest technology. It’s all the little (and big) inconsistencies that make pipes sound so wonderful. I’m assuming AI can be taught the wabi-sabi principle of beauty in imperfection. We’ll see, it’s only a matter of time before this stuff gets good enough to fool us.
Great to see a bit of ITM on this channel, up ya booyah!
haha thanks. yeah it's mad when you think of it . I've played this stuff all my life and never gave it much space on the channel. maybe I should do more :)
a full trad album of chatGPT tunes :D :D
@@banjoguyollie do you play in sessions or gigs these days?
Awesome.
Sweet mother of god. We are absolutely f#%ked 😂
Hahaha... Astonishing!
🔥🔥🔥
This was fantastic. Love how you took something fairly bland sounding and turned it into something great.
This is what I was looking for(AI to help me make irish tune). Goosebump 🤩
Great team!
Wow, i was surprised that chatgpt has become the source of many things, even tune.
ImGine this for an soundtrack for an open world fantasy game 😊
Perhaps ChatGPT gave you something to start, but you made it amazing. I would love to see a similar video but about retro gaming music and maybe show us more of the material provided to you. Thank you for all your amazing work, you are extremely entertaining.
Exactly for this type of work like this modern AI is created - AI making foundation from raw idea. and after that humans bringing that to perfection.
Recently i asked chatGPT for the next lottery numbers… the answer startet with: „unfortunately…“. 😒But hej… at least it delivers good sound…🥳
Hm, it's hitting some uncanny valley levels for me. It's like a tune you think sounds great you heard in a dream, but then you wake up and it's not all impressive in the waking world.
You did a neat job with it though.
Interestingly I did think about that . It think it's mostly because I did mention chatGPT in the first place . It unconsciously triggers that feeling of "fake".
I've been playing irish music 30 years and they're technically in the top tier type tunes among the hundreds and hundreds of tunes I've learned. None of my fellow Irish traditional musicians thought they sounded off or bad in anyway. In fact I've learned and played far worse tunes than that over the years.
I'd wager if I did a video without mentioning AI they would have sounded absolutely fine :D :D
@@banjoguyollie The tunes actually sound cool (from the perspective of someone who has been playing trad for more than 20 years), as you said. If you hadn't said anything about the AI I wouldn't have thought they were generated this way. I did also try this a couple of weeks back and the results were much, much worse. Maybe they changed something or it is just luck with the AI. Did you generate a handful and then kept the ones you liked best or were those the first results?
My trials were all asking the AI for jigs, maybe it is more difficult for the AI to generate credible ones. I will give reels a go 🙂
Really cool video!!!
@@banjoguyollie Hmm, not sure. I'm an trad folk musician myself, part American and part Irish in repitoir, so my opinion probably counts less, but if you hadn't mentioned chat GPT, I probably would have figured they were just subpar modern compositions.
ah yes , I'll have to agree that they do sound more modern Irish than say your standard Fleadh Ceoil session tune. But that part is down to me having selected those two out of many that were generated , for that exact reason :)
It's a really good tune 😔
Ask ChatGPT for some Castlevania-like or Megaman-like tunes. Honestly, I can't get enough of those particular styles of music, but I'm also thinking they are a bit more difficult to pull off well.
There exist a ton of traditional tunes written down in the simple ABC format, which is easy for a language model to work with. They're part of GPT's training corpus. Other styles of music either don't have as much information, or they're in formats which aren't nearly as easy for language models to make sense of (try making guitar tabulature with chatGPT!)
Mr. Ollie, I must ask, what is that wind instrument in the second song that you use that sounds so smooth? The one that seems like a metal pipe. You use a wooden soprano (?] recorder (correct?) and then the metal pipe one seems to be for the deeper tones.
the first one is a Tin Whistle in D, with a wooden embouchure made by Olivier Bouchard , the second is a Low Whistle in D (an octave lower) made by Jean Pierre LeMeurs .
@@banjoguyollie thank you so much for the reply and details!!! :)
@@banjoguyollieSo, I ordered a Low D Whistle, should arrive in two weeks. I have some mild music background with keyboard, and a little bit of messing around with shakuhachi, so going to see if I can learn this one. I don’t suppose you put together the sheet music for the second tune? I noticed the Ai generated pattern, but did you ad lib in a session style, or did you write it out first? Are they shared on Patreon?
mm dont I think I kept the abc notation for either of them. tbh I just learned them by ear anyway when they were generated . I did ad lib all the incidentals and extra notes for ornamentations yes , as you would any tune in Irish music . That part is usually left to the musician playing the tune .
@@banjoguyollie Okay, that makes sense considering the style! As I’m learning the basics of Irish music, I’m seeing more now and appreciating it more as well. The ornamentations and slides, really impressed how you can seemingly handle any instrument. Also shows that the human element to this music is still very much there, and that’s good to know. Great job.
aye, and a foine job it did too.
From now on AI stands for Artificial Irishness.
Impressionnant, dont l'exécution du musicien, on dirait qu'il sait y faire :D
ChatGPT did the easiest part :)
Love the last line.
So, having done this now, do you think AI is something that can make *new* Irish tunes, or music in general? This is coming from someone keeping AI at arm's length - it just seems to me that the AI can pull from the characteristics of a particular genre and regurgitate a unique tune out of it, and maybe even mix two or more genres together, but do you think it could go beyond that? You can argue that's all we've been doing for eons, just mixing things together, but a lot of it seems more fresh than what I imagine AI could pull. To pull an example, I don't believe AI could have invented the sound Radiohead has before Radiohead made it even if it had all the same sources Thom Yorke had when he started really writing music.
yeah I think for very derivative stuff like this, and traditional musics in general are very derivative since they operate within a standard set of parameters like keys and time signatures and codified progressions, it does a more than adequate job. It'll spit out exactly that, something that is codified and withing the parameters of the genre. What it won't be able to do is extrapolate and create sth that breaks those rules in a meaningful way , or at least not unless you ask it specific ways which then doesn't make it all "AI" generated since you are the operator.
what I can't see it do , as you mentioned is create a new style / sound , especially considering so much of what makes Radiohead, Guns n roses, Nirvana etc... ( a genre defining band in general ) , what they are is not only is their ability for transgression . Not to mention the context of the time period at which they appeared
The melodies are very poor. Fortunately, you have made a nice arrangment from them.
Original was a little drab. Your expert style turned these into works of art. I guess nobody will have to write their own music anymore. Just get a computer to compose something, improve on it yourself, and wham... original piece with less labor. Arts will start spewing out of people like me who have little creative talent. Is this a good thing, or a bad thing?
Je pense que c’est une bonne chose que certaines personnes continuent à composer, pour moi on peut tous le faire (même si ça peut rester très simple) et je n’aimerai pas que l’intelligence artificielle remplace entièrement notre société ! Après, ce n’est que mon avis.
Not a bad thing here I guess. ChatGPT is not an "artist", just a tool - and Ollie used it just right, with his "expert style" as you said.
There will always be a huge human background work to make beautiful melodies - the most memorable music does not need AI (or very little).
i think the second song could be an interlude in the first song.