I think this a great in-between a destination and TT. Easily towable but ment for extended stays at picturesque locations. I would want to use it in a more off grid situation. My suggestion would to throw a HUGE solar package option. Something in the 600-800ah with 800-1000W and a 3000-4000 inverter. Or a way to have an onboard generator. Great looking rig!
Love this! Just some ideas - an aerodynamic front cap with storage for sewer/power accessories/propane. Would also love an aluminum/azdel version. I love that it has no slideouts!
One change to make it perfect. Make the curbside porch railing removable in order for provisions to attach a motorcycle ramp to park and haul a motorcycle on the porch. It'd be totally awesome to have such a great RV that can haul your motorcycle without having to be a toy hauler. EDIT: Make the curbside porch railing a fold up motorcycle ramp!
That would have to be a longer ramp than what would fit in the space that railing is in. Look at the angle the rear step is at, that is the angle a built in ramp would be at. That's way too steep to run a bike up. A safe, usable ramp would have to go out out at least 6 feet from the top edge of that patio, probably more like 7 feet. If the flip up ramp went from the floor level all the way to the ceiling of that patio, it might be enough length to run a bike up. Plus, it has to handle a big cruiser bike that's around 800 lbs + the rider. So, minimum 1000 lb capacity.
@TrashPanda5150 That's why I'm thinking a folding ramp. In the up position it'll go from porch floor to ceiling (about 7 feet), unfolded it would be about 14 feet long. ...which might make the RV wheelchair accessible too?
I want this so bad but without the dishwasher, so there'd be more room. We don't make many dishes in my family. This is just so cool. You could put up screening on the patio to keep the bugs at bay too! So cool.
It was bound to happen. They designed a travel trailer with a tiny house style layout. You know that, despite reservations, some will buy these and use them like travel trailers; not like destination models. It will be interesting to learn how they hold up. If they fare well, it wouldn't surprise me when other manufacturers follow Timberwolf's lead with their own versions. Personally, I love this concept. Porches are cool. I think solar would be great with all that roof space. The biggest issue would be where to locate the extra batteries? The ceiling fan is a must with that high ceiling, either to circulate heat or cooled air. Unless this model has thick walls and double-pane windows I imagine it wouldn't be optimal in coldest or hottest weather. That wall o' appliances is pretty cool; especially that dishwasher. I'd hope for a 50A power connection for those days I want to run the A/C, wash some clothes, and microwave a bag of popcorn at the same time. Stairs are the way to go with bedroom lofts. Ladders are, as they used to say in the UK, Right Out!
Oh i'm sure people will buy them for towing and I'm sure there are stores that will tell them It's A-OK. I won't be one of them though. to me it's still a destination trailer and with that hitch weight it feels like a 3/4 ton tow when you are moving it
This is so 'thinking inside the box', but in a totally different way. I'm digging the overall design and idea of this. Hope they move the bar a bit for others to start looking in this direction as well.
This looks almost perfect. If they could find a way to give more headroom in the shower for us taller folks, then it'd be perfect. It also couldn't hurt to try to do some kind of aerodynamic front cap. I love this idea and am curious to see if it really takes off.
Josh, I know this is an older video, but my wife and I looked at this unit. Here would be a suggestion. Move the bedroom over the deck, lose the second small loft. Make an option for a pull out sofa or recliners in the living room, that way you could sleep some kids or another couple. Put a sky light in the bathroom. I am 5'9" tall and the shower is just to low. That way, you could lower the front of the trailer, get a taller ceiling in the bathroom and make the trailer reasonably towable. Add solar and an inverter. It is a cool concept, but would only work for a few situations. We really liked it, but trying to tow the thing would really be a pain, particularly in the wind and rain. Just a our two cents.
Wow towing one of these cross country? I hope you have a very solid and capable truck. These are not really "tuned" for towing with a big flat front and tall center of gravity. They're made more for getting them there and leaving them there
Love this! Maybe put an aerodynamic front with storage to help with traveling. It would be nice to have a floor level step in shower, super slide, screen porch, solar to power everything while boondocking and a bit longer. Love to see RV manufacturers getting into these types of trailers. Thanks for another great video Josh! 😊
they could put a small storage room in the front not connected with the rest of the inside rooms to help with the aerodynamics and you'll have a small place to put your hoses and outdoor gear. and ik they can doo the easy without making it any longer at least the design I'm thinking of.
I'm an old single guy, thinking about getting and RV to live in till I croak. This thing looks NICE. Just big enough for me and maybe a cat. I hope they add a solar option to it. Any idea how well this thing will hold in heat though? i see all these windows and wonder how insulated it would be in the winter.
Well THIS looks Fun!!! My suggestions; if it’s billed as off grid capable then it should definitely have solar standard with an optional extended package that way it could operate without propane. Swap out stove for induction cooktop add convection microwave where the stove is. Omit dishwasher- free up counter space and delete that weird glass washer thing. Love the fireplace but it could be downstairs where that table is. Remove that wonky table and add another staircase for the 2nd loft.
I agree with you about the solar, but not about the induction stove. Just my opinion, but heating and cooking with electricity rarely makes sense to me as it just uses too much battery capacity and a gas range uses very little propane. If you really want an induction cook top, it is easy enough to just plug in a portable unit, but much harder to add in a gas range and oven.
@@kcgunesq I have an aversion to open flame and propane fumes that’s just a bit about me😀 I was thinking like you, portable induction cooktop that can be stored away in a drawer. Allows much more counter space for meal prep. It’s fun to imagine isn’t it👏
I LOVE IT! I could park that at my daughter's house in her back yard and visit when I want with a place to stay. Or haul it if I wanted. That porch is genius! Good bathroom (sans shower height) plus the storage capacity is great and the price is fantastic!
I’ve been waiting for this video! I love the porch and would personally screen it in (I live in Florida). I would love to see more of these. It would be nice if it was a little longer and had a slide in the living room. The only downside is the shower height. I’m 6’3”, but I’m also lazy so I wouldn’t mind using the seat. Absolutely love the tiny house feel this has!
Man, that's an awesome idea to have on a lot in the mountains of TN that I can go to on the long weekends and take a little time off from my FL home. It's much better than a tiny home because it's shorter and can still be moved a lot easier but still have all of the comforts you would need...and then some. Or maybe even park it on the backside of my property in FL and airbnb it some. Very cool!
Smaller ‘park model’ or gravel road lake-side ‘park model’. If you have a near lake plot with a modest septic and simple running water, add 800W solar and a 3K inverter + batteries. Summer retirement bliss!
I would love to see manufacturers at least offer the option for a large solar package from the factory, on every model they can fit such an option. I know this isn't really designed for moving that often but a V-nose that tapered down on the top as well couldn't hurt the efficiency aspect, plus it gives space for enclosed propane and battery storage.
To be honest, I'm really digging this rig. More like a tiny house by "build tiny" from NZ..the only difference is that it has a water/waste tanks to be fully go Off-Grid. I hope more RV company can set this kind of trend. RV/TINY home trailer. Cool. Go! Go! Go Idol #rvnerd
I love the direction this is going. For me, as a park camper mostly, an adequate solar package to tend the battery would be enough and off road tires need not apply. The total and complete lack of outside storage is a consideration. That said, I don't know if I would give up any interior amenities for it as I have a truck with a bed to cart gear around. Though that does introduce a bit more work into the equation on every trip.
This unit is so interesting! My husband and I would like to buy some hunting/camping property someday and something like this would be perfect to park there
For us, first and foremost I have to look at any RV from the vantagepoint of my 6'7" husband so this is not something we would be interested in, but is sure does have a lot of great features! I love the back porch and the fact that it has W/D option in a TT under 30'. Even though it has no slides it has a very open feeling. One could work around the fact that there is no outside storage with very little trouble.
Finally, instead of obsessing with “storage” that’s a bunch of randomly placed tiny compartments it’s a camper that’s livable with usable interior storage. If you need more storage, put the crap it in the tow vehicle. They could come out with a hard side pop up for the upper loft level to make it more aerodynamic for towing. A ramp to use the back deck as an open toy hauler be awesome too.
WOW! Thanks for the link! This thing is insane and I love it! It definitely has the destination camper vibes but that really has the "homey" feels! Thanks!
@@JoshtheRVNerd This is so good I'm watching it again! I've long loved Embers, Cougars and GeoPros (my original love lol). This is not perfect, but there's sooo much to like. Definitely would want a maxed solar package, and perhaps some option for a generator. I wonder if a aero cap for the nose couldn't be added to create a big of storage and make it a bit less of a brick. Perhaps a generator mount on the tongue? Just random thoughts I think would make it even better
I haul RV's for a living and have hauled this unit on multiple occasions. It is not a fun experience hauling. It catches tons of wind and can really push your truck to its limits. Its a really solidly manufactured TT though just don't plan on moving it much.
Just when you think you've seen it all, Cherokee said "hold my barley pop!" The shower is the only major issue for me but I'm a sasquatch, so I'm used to ducking. Love this thing!
@@JoshtheRVNerd The more I think about this model, I wonder if it would be smart to offer a version where the living area has the smaller headroom and the kitchen is open. Like fifth wheel upper living. You’re sitting most of the time in the living room and standing in the kitchen and bathroom. I love the lofted bedroom and the bonus loft still.
I'm still waiting for a "toy hauler" that has 4 fixed walls, with a patio that folds down & an awning that folds out (both could be half sized for a smaller patio with a solid roof. Yup it wouldn't even be able to haul toys, but it all seriousness this is KEWL!
This is a cool camper. I love the windows & porch. The loft bed not so much. Because I'm old. But I can imagine taking something like this to the mountains.
Love 90% of this. however.... Maybe it's hard to see on the video, but looking at the kitchen, I see drawers below stove for pots and pans, the above the dishwasher area for plates, cups, etc., drawers for utensils, maybe even a junk drawer. ...and only that double cabinet over the sink for pantry and larger appliances? They should figure out a pantry area, or something better for the under step storage. Maybe a roll out shelving unit (or 2 narrow ones side by side) under there?
It’s a weird style of camping for sure. Folks with something like this tend to be kinda minimalists who will only have things like the dishes they use almost daily
Perfect for Tiny Home to a Small Family cabin! Needs solar with lithium batteries. I really love the fireplace in the bedroom! I'd love Theater seating with optional swing tables and instead of small dining a TV on a swing arm with sound bar. Maybe even a thin form factor smallish fireplace
First ting I would purchase is some screen netting, long ribbon magnets, and enclose that patio, with a cut in the screen at the stairs with a magnet on either side to close it.. Magnets for easy removal
My wife saw this.. Add 4 feert or so interior OR 2 moderately deep slides. (def not a super slide deep enough for a dinette) just enough to open it just a tad, and a small awning off the porch.. Yep, park it in a seasonal site on the lake, a "iced tea" bevy, and enjoy the sunset.. This is a nice niche that is gonna be a winner
It'd be great if they could mount the rails for solar and put in the chase but leave it as an option to get the electronics or not. Basically eliminate the need to poke holes in the roof if you do want to do solar but not put all the cost into every unit. Plus that way you have the option of going with the turnkey factory option or selecting your own components to match your use case.
Glad you showed this one! This is the only video where the storage under the stairs was addressed. I think I’d forego the dishwasher for extra counter prep space. Love the sink functionality. Too bad they didn’t drop the floor in the bathroom to give a taller space in the shower.
Love the design. Have they considered making storm shutter or screen panels to enclose the porch. The idea being that during travel or stormy weather the porch can be protected and then after you open them and secure them to the side like commercial trailer's rear doors.
I would take that without the front loft to give more head room in the shower. Maybe make the back loft the extra “bedroom”. Or, heck, make it couples camper only and loose the lofts. I am in it for the back porch. And yes. Make solar an option.
Oh, this is so out of the park and on the beach cool! This is the perfect trailer for the guy who wants the outdorzy overlander look without the supper heavy duty and sky high pricing of the current proper over-landing trailer. This one is still a little rough around the edges, like missing rear view camera and low hanging sewer connection piping just begging to be snagged on something and ripped off. Relocate those so you won’t be snagging them as you move across camp site or access road obstructions, and you’ve got something here. The washer/dryer AND Dishwasher combo is a treat. Will I buy one of these? Absolutely not! But I am really excited to see this one. But my interest is directed more towards a Happier Camper HC1 Breeze. Nice, light weight, flexible and roomy for its size.
We saw this at Best RV in Turlock ca we were going to buy its big brother the timberwolf 39CA but then we fell in love with the NEW 2024 FOREST RIVER RV WILDWOOD GRAND LODGE 44VIEW Because of the double loft and has more head room so now we are patiently waiting to be delivered from Indiana
Love it! Just need a back up camera so you can see behind you. Love the no slides, just wondering about solar? Could add a marine type fire place to burn wood, so when you are off grid, you are still nice and toasty. I could see myself in this one. ❤
If that thing comes in at a somewhat reasonable price, it will be a better value that most "tiny homes" I've seen. Also may beat the old single wides I've seen in a lot of old vacation parks.
Put a mini spit a/c mounted on the front and leave the roof open for massive solar options. Windows are a bit much, not sure how they would be for heating and cooling. Otherwise very nice.
I actually saw one of these at a dealership in Royse City TX yesterday. It looks nice however I personally don’t feel like it’s something you want to be traveling with. It looks like it’s going to fly apart. I give it 1k miles before things get loose, 3k miles before things start falling apart. I think it’s better suited for a lake lot owner’s get away point, meant to be transported as minimally as possible
Thanks Josh, I saw a preview of this on another channel and it is great to get your full walk-through. With this one I would for sure want huge inverters so I could run everything except maybe the washer and dryer, but that would still be nice. I would personally put every panel I could on that to get to 1200 watts at least. I like the overall idea. I am not sure about the steps and the shower having big feet the stairs look small and the shower for sure is too short, but might work with the seat.
it really needs big solar package with 2-3kw of solar + 15-25kwh of battery and a good 3000-4000w inverter. i would replace the cooktop with an induction and replace the oven with a microwave/airfryer combo unit. the unit is laid out in a tiny-home feel and function and they need to equip it as such. if they put the airfry/microwave combo above the stovetop and use the bottom for a dishwasher you can use the counter top on the other side as more storage.
This is a great tiny home. No amount of saying its not will change my mind. I'd definitely drop it on a site with a good solar package and maybe occasionally drive it somewhere. You almost have to have a 3/4 ton to tow it and most people dont have that
Cool concept. If I was younger and didn’t mind the steps I’d be all over this. And I’d get the benefit of buying an HD truck. Excellent video as always. Keep up the great work.
Might not be a tiny house but certainly does a little better than one. If I had a lake front property, a land for hunting and fishing, or wanted to start an AirBnB, this will be in my top 3 options. Minimal utility construction and ready to go.
I would like an off grid package "big available package". I'd take that puppy boondocking...beach camping? I wish they made it in a 5th wheel version! Awesome bit of something new 👌
Josh: WELL I've got to say this Cherokee no slide RV definitely hits almost all the marks. It has the rolling bed, head and mess bases all covered and it's rest stop and truck stop accessible. But it might be a smidge too tall to fit in our barn for winter storage and it might be another smidge too heavy for our Chevy baby duramax 1500 Silverado to safely or easily tow. But other than that, this looks like a nice niche camper that fits well between a well equipped 5th wheel and a park model RV. And who knows, maybe with a little corporate engineering tweaking to the sewer, water and electric connections this could be Cherokee’s gateway into marketing tiny homes. It’s likely to be some person or family’s perfect living solution. Respectfully, W.S.
It's interesting. They oughta put some tie downs on the deck for bikes and stuff. It wouldn't offend me if they put a ramp for side loading things on the deck like a small ATV or motorcycle either but maybe that's just me. Thanks for Sharing, Josh!
This has my interest. It's everything I could ever want in a travel trailer for full-time living. The hard part is deciding how frequently and easily I can tow it, let's say, a couple of hours from the home station for a quick getaway for a week or more. My second option is the XLR boost 27 qbx, But it's very hard to get towing reviews on how it feels to tow all of these travel trailers. To get more information on the towability and ease of maneuverability.
I love this! I’d prefer the staircase to come out a little further so the pitch is better for dogs to get down safely. As it is now, do you think the steps would be safe for a dog to get down?
Very unique. It makes me think of a houseboat. I'd treat it more as a destination trailer in place of a cabin. Its size would work well for a property with minimal flat space such as you have in the mountains.With that use I would want a good sized solar system. The tankless water heater would have to go as it can't be used in cold weather which defeats the purpose of using it on a mountain property.
The small loft ladder should be in the middle of the rv, with the sofa and table swapped and the rear door on the camp side instead of centered. The rear patio should have the steps on the camp side rather than the rear, and if you made the patio about 2ft longer you could still have two chairs side by side. Max factory solar would be nice. I think keeping the 'camp side' focus would make it reach more of an audience, and the loft ladder being in the middle would let that space function better.
I honestly considered this concept for the campground I’m going to be living at the next year. I won’t be traveling with it, I have some amenities at the lot to include a dock, outdoor shower, covered patio etc. so I’d be okay with smaller interior and reasonable house like qualities. It’s also small enough to tow with my half ton rather than having to upgrade trucks or have it delivered to and from. I know they call this a travel trailer but I couldn’t see moving it more than a few times before having some issues - I could be wrong though.
It's a travel trailer by technical classification only. This thing is NOT designed to be toted around with regularity. She's made for getting there and parking it
Wow, this is a really fascinating design. I see a few potential issues though and one recommendation: First issue is that most campgrounds I've been to would not be friendly to a rear entrance and you'd likely be stepping in the weeds or mud getting in an out. Second issue is that really lo frame and sewer hookups. I could see it bottoming out while going over curbs or any uneven ground. One suggestion is they build a front storage box that could contain the battery and allow you to keep cords and tubes in. Also, where's the spare tire?
Love this idea but the kitchen area needs reworking, there’s not enough countertop space. I would like to see the recliner removed and the counter top extended out with some more storage or the extra space can be used for a bigger oven and a convection microwave. If they use a 10.2 fridge instead of the residential fridge they can expand the countertop space on that side as well. Dishwasher seems like a waste to me but that’s a personal preference.
This is a really cool RV, but I suppose the practical side of me can’t get over the lost space due to the covered patio. Instead, a fold-down patio for when you are at your destination added length when towing, but added space (main floor bedroom, added living space) for the majority of the time.
I love the idea and I hope they make this a family of RVs. I'd love another few feet added for kitchen space and storage. Not sure how to accomplish more head height in the shower but that would be a must for me at 6'2". Beyond that, i love this setup for like a guest house or destination trailer idea. Can't see spending a month here like some 40+foot destination rigs but a long weekend to a week would be an adorable getaway
This is the second model of this I've seen. The other was the larger version. The only thing nice about the interior on these, is the kitchen. Unfortunately, the kitchen should be at the other end with easy access to the deck/outside. The larger version does have a side door, making it a little more practical for RV parks. Obviously, the low ceiling height in the shower is due to the loft above it. So, it would make more sense for the bathroom to be more centrally located to get more height, even if you have to sacrifice some bathroom space. A more functional layout would be along the lines of the kitchen at the deck end, giving easy access to the outside from the kitchen/dining area. Add a dedicated dinette along the opposite side. Bathroom space directly behind the dinette, leaving the kitchen open to the living/entertainment space at the other end. Then add a side access door. The electric fireplace/heater location is just dumb. Heat rises. If the idea is for having an auxiliary heat source, having it in the loft make no sense at all.
I think this a great in-between a destination and TT. Easily towable but ment for extended stays at picturesque locations. I would want to use it in a more off grid situation. My suggestion would to throw a HUGE solar package option. Something in the 600-800ah with 800-1000W and a 3000-4000 inverter. Or a way to have an onboard generator. Great looking rig!
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agreed, it seems almost tailor designed for a remote getaway and an off-grid package would round it out nicely.
Love this! Just some ideas - an aerodynamic front cap with storage for sewer/power accessories/propane. Would also love an aluminum/azdel version. I love that it has no slideouts!
Ibex has an aluminum/azdel similar thing coming. I just got footage last week
One change to make it perfect.
Make the curbside porch railing removable in order for provisions to attach a motorcycle ramp to park and haul a motorcycle on the porch.
It'd be totally awesome to have such a great RV that can haul your motorcycle without having to be a toy hauler.
EDIT: Make the curbside porch railing a fold up motorcycle ramp!
Ooh I like that!
@@JoshtheRVNerd (pats self on back) 😎😁
As a rider, I was thinking the same thing.
That would have to be a longer ramp than what would fit in the space that railing is in. Look at the angle the rear step is at, that is the angle a built in ramp would be at. That's way too steep to run a bike up. A safe, usable ramp would have to go out out at least 6 feet from the top edge of that patio, probably more like 7 feet. If the flip up ramp went from the floor level all the way to the ceiling of that patio, it might be enough length to run a bike up. Plus, it has to handle a big cruiser bike that's around 800 lbs + the rider. So, minimum 1000 lb capacity.
@TrashPanda5150 That's why I'm thinking a folding ramp. In the up position it'll go from porch floor to ceiling (about 7 feet), unfolded it would be about 14 feet long.
...which might make the RV wheelchair accessible too?
I want this so bad but without the dishwasher, so there'd be more room. We don't make many dishes in my family. This is just so cool. You could put up screening on the patio to keep the bugs at bay too! So cool.
That dishwasher was surface mounted as I recall so should be pretty easy to remove I'd think though it is standard on the build
It was bound to happen. They designed a travel trailer with a tiny house style layout. You know that, despite reservations, some will buy these and use them like travel trailers; not like destination models. It will be interesting to learn how they hold up. If they fare well, it wouldn't surprise me when other manufacturers follow Timberwolf's lead with their own versions.
Personally, I love this concept. Porches are cool. I think solar would be great with all that roof space. The biggest issue would be where to locate the extra batteries? The ceiling fan is a must with that high ceiling, either to circulate heat or cooled air. Unless this model has thick walls and double-pane windows I imagine it wouldn't be optimal in coldest or hottest weather. That wall o' appliances is pretty cool; especially that dishwasher. I'd hope for a 50A power connection for those days I want to run the A/C, wash some clothes, and microwave a bag of popcorn at the same time. Stairs are the way to go with bedroom lofts. Ladders are, as they used to say in the UK, Right Out!
Oh i'm sure people will buy them for towing and I'm sure there are stores that will tell them It's A-OK. I won't be one of them though.
to me it's still a destination trailer and with that hitch weight it feels like a 3/4 ton tow when you are moving it
I appreciate the way you try to answer everybody's questions, not many others on youtube are like that.
Man I try. Thank you! It's tough when there's so many hours in the day
@@JoshtheRVNerdlololol
This is so 'thinking inside the box', but in a totally different way. I'm digging the overall design and idea of this. Hope they move the bar a bit for others to start looking in this direction as well.
lol great description
This looks almost perfect. If they could find a way to give more headroom in the shower for us taller folks, then it'd be perfect. It also couldn't hurt to try to do some kind of aerodynamic front cap. I love this idea and am curious to see if it really takes off.
That would be cool!
Josh, I know this is an older video, but my wife and I looked at this unit. Here would be a suggestion. Move the bedroom over the deck, lose the second small loft. Make an option for a pull out sofa or recliners in the living room, that way you could sleep some kids or another couple. Put a sky light in the bathroom. I am 5'9" tall and the shower is just to low. That way, you could lower the front of the trailer, get a taller ceiling in the bathroom and make the trailer reasonably towable. Add solar and an inverter. It is a cool concept, but would only work for a few situations. We really liked it, but trying to tow the thing would really be a pain, particularly in the wind and rain. Just a our two cents.
May be your two cents.. but I'm buying in. I like what you're saying here
My grandson just bought one of these. We are going across the country July 4th, from NY to CA, can't wait. It's going to be GRRRRATE!!! 😍👍
Wow towing one of these cross country? I hope you have a very solid and capable truck. These are not really "tuned" for towing with a big flat front and tall center of gravity. They're made more for getting them there and leaving them there
Solar is a must!!!
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Love this! Maybe put an aerodynamic front with storage to help with traveling. It would be nice to have a floor level step in shower, super slide, screen porch, solar to power everything while boondocking and a bit longer. Love to see RV manufacturers getting into these types of trailers. Thanks for another great video Josh! 😊
Thank you for watching!
they could put a small storage room in the front not connected with the rest of the inside rooms to help with the aerodynamics and you'll have a small place to put your hoses and outdoor gear. and ik they can doo the easy without making it any longer at least the design I'm thinking of.
@@cupcake_gremlin almost like a front tack room on a horse trailer!
@@JoshtheRVNerd exactly 💯🔥
I'm an old single guy, thinking about getting and RV to live in till I croak. This thing looks NICE. Just big enough for me and maybe a cat. I hope they add a solar option to it. Any idea how well this thing will hold in heat though? i see all these windows and wonder how insulated it would be in the winter.
Well THIS looks Fun!!! My suggestions; if it’s billed as off grid capable then it should definitely have solar standard with an optional extended package that way it could operate without propane. Swap out stove for induction cooktop add convection microwave where the stove is. Omit dishwasher- free up counter space and delete that weird glass washer thing. Love the fireplace but it could be downstairs where that table is. Remove that wonky table and add another staircase for the 2nd loft.
I'm making that area the cat loft
I agree with you about the solar, but not about the induction stove. Just my opinion, but heating and cooking with electricity rarely makes sense to me as it just uses too much battery capacity and a gas range uses very little propane. If you really want an induction cook top, it is easy enough to just plug in a portable unit, but much harder to add in a gas range and oven.
@@kcgunesq I have an aversion to open flame and propane fumes that’s just a bit about me😀 I was thinking like you, portable induction cooktop that can be stored away in a drawer. Allows much more counter space for meal prep. It’s fun to imagine isn’t it👏
Now this has my full interest.
It’s definitely interesting!!
I LOVE IT! I could park that at my daughter's house in her back yard and visit when I want with a place to stay. Or haul it if I wanted. That porch is genius! Good bathroom (sans shower height) plus the storage capacity is great and the price is fantastic!
Sounds great!
Wow! Very cool concept. I love the use of vertical space for dedicated sleeping areas instead of encroaching on the living/dining area.
Glad you like it!
I’ve been waiting for this video! I love the porch and would personally screen it in (I live in Florida). I would love to see more of these. It would be nice if it was a little longer and had a slide in the living room. The only downside is the shower height. I’m 6’3”, but I’m also lazy so I wouldn’t mind using the seat. Absolutely love the tiny house feel this has!
Man, that's an awesome idea to have on a lot in the mountains of TN that I can go to on the long weekends and take a little time off from my FL home. It's much better than a tiny home because it's shorter and can still be moved a lot easier but still have all of the comforts you would need...and then some. Or maybe even park it on the backside of my property in FL and airbnb it some. Very cool!
Yeah I think it could be a nice alternative to a cabin for some folks
Smaller ‘park model’ or gravel road lake-side ‘park model’. If you have a near lake plot with a modest septic and simple running water, add 800W solar and a 3K inverter + batteries. Summer retirement bliss!
I could see that!
Absolutely , give it a solar package, just beautifully designed.
Ty for sharing
I would love to see manufacturers at least offer the option for a large solar package from the factory, on every model they can fit such an option. I know this isn't really designed for moving that often but a V-nose that tapered down on the top as well couldn't hurt the efficiency aspect, plus it gives space for enclosed propane and battery storage.
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To be honest, I'm really digging this rig. More like a tiny house by "build tiny" from NZ..the only difference is that it has a water/waste tanks to be fully go Off-Grid. I hope more RV company can set this kind of trend. RV/TINY home trailer. Cool. Go! Go! Go Idol #rvnerd
Thank you for watching!
I love the direction this is going. For me, as a park camper mostly, an adequate solar package to tend the battery would be enough and off road tires need not apply. The total and complete lack of outside storage is a consideration. That said, I don't know if I would give up any interior amenities for it as I have a truck with a bed to cart gear around. Though that does introduce a bit more work into the equation on every trip.
Dang! This is pretty awesome. It works as a tiny house for me. Plus the mobility of being built to actually tow!
Yep yep!
This is the one I'm getting, I was fortunate enough to fit into the shower perfectly. Sorry RV Nerd 😂
Glad it works for you!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you so much, I am too
This unit is so interesting! My husband and I would like to buy some hunting/camping property someday and something like this would be perfect to park there
For us, first and foremost I have to look at any RV from the vantagepoint of my 6'7" husband so this is not something we would be interested in, but is sure does have a lot of great features! I love the back porch and the fact that it has W/D option in a TT under 30'. Even though it has no slides it has a very open feeling. One could work around the fact that there is no outside storage with very little trouble.
Ty Carol!
Finally, instead of obsessing with “storage” that’s a bunch of randomly placed tiny compartments it’s a camper that’s livable with usable interior storage. If you need more storage, put the crap it in the tow vehicle.
They could come out with a hard side pop up for the upper loft level to make it more aerodynamic for towing.
A ramp to use the back deck as an open toy hauler be awesome too.
Yes, this definitely have an available big offgrid package! Great layout there.
For that price, it's absolutely reasonable!!!!
It's a really cool rv but I hope you can put a security gate in the front of that sliding door entry way, that's a lot of glass.
WOW! Thanks for the link! This thing is insane and I love it! It definitely has the destination camper vibes but that really has the "homey" feels! Thanks!
Yes it does!
@@JoshtheRVNerd This is so good I'm watching it again! I've long loved Embers, Cougars and GeoPros (my original love lol). This is not perfect, but there's sooo much to like. Definitely would want a maxed solar package, and perhaps some option for a generator. I wonder if a aero cap for the nose couldn't be added to create a big of storage and make it a bit less of a brick. Perhaps a generator mount on the tongue? Just random thoughts I think would make it even better
@Josh I'd live in this full time right now.
👍🏻 And no theater seating for you to hate lol :)
I haul RV's for a living and have hauled this unit on multiple occasions. It is not a fun experience hauling. It catches tons of wind and can really push your truck to its limits. Its a really solidly manufactured TT though just don't plan on moving it much.
It definitely doesn’t strike me as a good one for towing. Just leaving it somewhere
Just when you think you've seen it all, Cherokee said "hold my barley pop!" The shower is the only major issue for me but I'm a sasquatch, so I'm used to ducking. Love this thing!
"Barley pop" love it!😂
Ibex has a thing like this coming all in one flat level for you taller types
@@JoshtheRVNerd The more I think about this model, I wonder if it would be smart to offer a version where the living area has the smaller headroom and the kitchen is open. Like fifth wheel upper living. You’re sitting most of the time in the living room and standing in the kitchen and bathroom. I love the lofted bedroom and the bonus loft still.
I like this a lot. My only question would be whether my dog could climb the stairs. Everything else is great!
Bring the dog and let’s find out
Absolutely loved the entire RV.... right up until the shower..... deal breaker.
I would love to park this on some property & live in it!!!
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I'm still waiting for a "toy hauler" that has 4 fixed walls, with a patio that folds down & an awning that folds out (both could be half sized for a smaller patio with a solid roof. Yup it wouldn't even be able to haul toys, but it all seriousness this is KEWL!
That would be cool!
This is a cool camper. I love the windows & porch. The loft bed not so much. Because I'm old. But I can imagine taking something like this to the mountains.
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Your screen name makes me laugh every time
Love 90% of this. however.... Maybe it's hard to see on the video, but looking at the kitchen, I see drawers below stove for pots and pans, the above the dishwasher area for plates, cups, etc., drawers for utensils, maybe even a junk drawer. ...and only that double cabinet over the sink for pantry and larger appliances? They should figure out a pantry area, or something better for the under step storage. Maybe a roll out shelving unit (or 2 narrow ones side by side) under there?
It’s a weird style of camping for sure. Folks with something like this tend to be kinda minimalists who will only have things like the dishes they use almost daily
Perfect for Tiny Home to a Small Family cabin! Needs solar with lithium batteries. I really love the fireplace in the bedroom! I'd love Theater seating with optional swing tables and instead of small dining a TV on a swing arm with sound bar. Maybe even a thin form factor smallish fireplace
First ting I would purchase is some screen netting, long ribbon magnets, and enclose that patio, with a cut in the screen at the stairs with a magnet on either side to close it.. Magnets for easy removal
I like that!
My wife saw this.. Add 4 feert or so interior OR 2 moderately deep slides. (def not a super slide deep enough for a dinette) just enough to open it just a tad, and a small awning off the porch.. Yep, park it in a seasonal site on the lake, a "iced tea" bevy, and enjoy the sunset.. This is a nice niche that is gonna be a winner
So glad you covered this model.
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It'd be great if they could mount the rails for solar and put in the chase but leave it as an option to get the electronics or not. Basically eliminate the need to poke holes in the roof if you do want to do solar but not put all the cost into every unit. Plus that way you have the option of going with the turnkey factory option or selecting your own components to match your use case.
Ibex does that. I think it’s smart
Glad you showed this one! This is the only video where the storage under the stairs was addressed. I think I’d forego the dishwasher for extra counter prep space. Love the sink functionality. Too bad they didn’t drop the floor in the bathroom to give a taller space in the shower.
Glad I was able to bring you a few extra details. TY for watching :)
Love this thing, and BIG PROPS to the BIG FRIDGE, ALL RVs should have a big fridge IMO.
TY for watchign :)
YES, definitely Solar ‼️
Love the design. Have they considered making storm shutter or screen panels to enclose the porch. The idea being that during travel or stormy weather the porch can be protected and then after you open them and secure them to the side like commercial trailer's rear doors.
Haven’t heard of anything like that
I would take that without the front loft to give more head room in the shower. Maybe make the back loft the extra “bedroom”. Or, heck, make it couples camper only and loose the lofts. I am in it for the back porch. And yes. Make solar an option.
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Oh, this is so out of the park and on the beach cool! This is the perfect trailer for the guy who wants the outdorzy overlander look without the supper heavy duty and sky high pricing of the current proper over-landing trailer.
This one is still a little rough around the edges, like missing rear view camera and low hanging sewer connection piping just begging to be snagged on something and ripped off. Relocate those so you won’t be snagging them as you move across camp site or access road obstructions, and you’ve got something here. The washer/dryer AND Dishwasher combo is a treat.
Will I buy one of these? Absolutely not! But I am really excited to see this one. But my interest is directed more towards a Happier Camper HC1 Breeze. Nice, light weight, flexible and roomy for its size.
We saw this at Best RV in Turlock ca we were going to buy its big brother the timberwolf 39CA but then we fell in love with the NEW 2024 FOREST RIVER RV WILDWOOD GRAND LODGE 44VIEW
Because of the double loft and has more head room so now we are patiently waiting to be delivered from Indiana
44view is amazing! I went thru one when it first came out m.czcams.com/video/07t8aWQty3o/video.html
Great "outside the box" concept! (even though it truly is a box)
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Love it! Just need a back up camera so you can see behind you. Love the no slides, just wondering about solar? Could add a marine type fire place to burn wood, so when you are off grid, you are still nice and toasty. I could see myself in this one. ❤
Interesting idea!
I friggin’ love this rv!
It’s really fun for sure
If that thing comes in at a somewhat reasonable price, it will be a better value that most "tiny homes" I've seen. Also may beat the old single wides I've seen in a lot of old vacation parks.
I am suspecting it’ll be far far less expensive than a true tiny home
So strange it looks like a tiny home build. Next level to a destination trailer
Def needs solar! I am loving this little trailer as a possible guest house on our property!
I’m liking the concept for sure maybe for easier towing make the front more streamline possibly as a 5th wheel
If it was meant to be a fifth wheel it would already be a fifth wheel
Put a mini spit a/c mounted on the front and leave the roof open for massive solar options. Windows are a bit much, not sure how they would be for heating and cooling. Otherwise very nice.
This is a nice tiny house replica that is meant to be hauled once and then parked and plugged in👍
That's about how I see it as well. TY Sir
I actually saw one of these at a dealership in Royse City TX yesterday. It looks nice however I personally don’t feel like it’s something you want to be traveling with. It looks like it’s going to fly apart. I give it 1k miles before things get loose, 3k miles before things start falling apart. I think it’s better suited for a lake lot owner’s get away point, meant to be transported as minimally as possible
Yeah I wouldn’t want to tow it more than I had to
Thanks Josh, I saw a preview of this on another channel and it is great to get your full walk-through. With this one I would for sure want huge inverters so I could run everything except maybe the washer and dryer, but that would still be nice. I would personally put every panel I could on that to get to 1200 watts at least. I like the overall idea. I am not sure about the steps and the shower having big feet the stairs look small and the shower for sure is too short, but might work with the seat.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i would add solar panels, satellite dish, and mini water generator and i am all set
it really needs big solar package with 2-3kw of solar + 15-25kwh of battery and a good 3000-4000w inverter. i would replace the cooktop with an induction and replace the oven with a microwave/airfryer combo unit. the unit is laid out in a tiny-home feel and function and they need to equip it as such. if they put the airfry/microwave combo above the stovetop and use the bottom for a dishwasher you can use the counter top on the other side as more storage.
This is a great tiny home. No amount of saying its not will change my mind. I'd definitely drop it on a site with a good solar package and maybe occasionally drive it somewhere. You almost have to have a 3/4 ton to tow it and most people dont have that
I think 3/4 ton is the safer way to go between that hitch weight and rough blocky shape
Cool concept. If I was younger and didn’t mind the steps I’d be all over this. And I’d get the benefit of buying an HD truck. Excellent video as always. Keep up the great work.
I get that. All the steps are a problem for some folks for sure
Needs to be a tad longer with some bunks somewhere and would love it
U know there’s a larger version…
Might not be a tiny house but certainly does a little better than one.
If I had a lake front property, a land for hunting and fishing, or wanted to start an AirBnB, this will be in my top 3 options.
Minimal utility construction and ready to go.
Awesome Ty!!
I would like an off grid package "big available package". I'd take that puppy boondocking...beach camping?
I wish they made it in a 5th wheel version!
Awesome bit of something new 👌
That would be cool!
Josh: WELL I've got to say this Cherokee no slide RV definitely hits almost all the marks. It has the rolling bed, head and mess bases all covered and it's rest stop and truck stop accessible. But it might be a smidge too tall to fit in our barn for winter storage and it might be another smidge too heavy for our Chevy baby duramax 1500 Silverado to safely or easily tow. But other than that, this looks like a nice niche camper that fits well between a well equipped 5th wheel and a park model RV. And who knows, maybe with a little corporate engineering tweaking to the sewer, water and electric connections this could be Cherokee’s gateway into marketing tiny homes. It’s likely to be some person or family’s perfect living solution. Respectfully, W.S.
Yeah it's a really interesting take on the concept. They were VERY specific about not calling it a tiny home since it is fully self contained
It's interesting.
They oughta put some tie downs on the deck for bikes and stuff.
It wouldn't offend me if they put a ramp for side loading things on the deck like a small ATV or motorcycle either but maybe that's just me.
Thanks for Sharing, Josh!
Ty. Cool idea
Agree, would like to put dog crates, bikes, etc. tied down out there with something to protect the glass if something gets loose while traveling:)
This has my interest. It's everything I could ever want in a travel trailer for full-time living. The hard part is deciding how frequently and easily I can tow it, let's say, a couple of hours from the home station for a quick getaway for a week or more. My second option is the XLR boost 27 qbx, But it's very hard to get towing reviews on how it feels to tow all of these travel trailers. To get more information on the towability and ease of maneuverability.
It's definitely not something made with regular towing in mind btw. This is really designed from bottom-up for getting it there and mostly leaving it
I love this!
I’d prefer the staircase to come out a little further so the pitch is better for dogs to get down safely.
As it is now, do you think the steps would be safe for a dog to get down?
These are pretty industry standard steps. I know folks who have pets in/out of their RVs currently and don't see why that would be different here
Man they got all the stuff i want in a tt but in a true non bh format. Win.
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Very unique. It makes me think of a houseboat. I'd treat it more as a destination trailer in place of a cabin. Its size would work well for a property with minimal flat space such as you have in the mountains.With that use I would want a good sized solar system.
The tankless water heater would have to go as it can't be used in cold weather which defeats the purpose of using it on a mountain property.
I see it the same way - kinda like a cabin
Beautiful. Josh you are great. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
So kind of you! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well :)
Im in love with this unit. Ive watched every video of it. I thoroughly enjoy your tours and couldn't wait for you to do.one of this. Thank you! 😊
Awesome! Thank you!
I’ve seen this before, I love it!!
I was waiting for Uncle Josh’s review on this one !
Hope it was worth the wait
@@JoshtheRVNerd for sure it it’s the best review 👍🏿
The small loft ladder should be in the middle of the rv, with the sofa and table swapped and the rear door on the camp side instead of centered. The rear patio should have the steps on the camp side rather than the rear, and if you made the patio about 2ft longer you could still have two chairs side by side. Max factory solar would be nice. I think keeping the 'camp side' focus would make it reach more of an audience, and the loft ladder being in the middle would let that space function better.
Yeah the rear loft over the deck is kind of a tricky thing
I honestly considered this concept for the campground I’m going to be living at the next year. I won’t be traveling with it, I have some amenities at the lot to include a dock, outdoor shower, covered patio etc. so I’d be okay with smaller interior and reasonable house like qualities. It’s also small enough to tow with my half ton rather than having to upgrade trucks or have it delivered to and from. I know they call this a travel trailer but I couldn’t see moving it more than a few times before having some issues - I could be wrong though.
It's a travel trailer by technical classification only. This thing is NOT designed to be toted around with regularity. She's made for getting there and parking it
I wish the porch fence was doored in to let my dog freely run in and out on it
Wow, this is a really fascinating design. I see a few potential issues though and one recommendation: First issue is that most campgrounds I've been to would not be friendly to a rear entrance and you'd likely be stepping in the weeds or mud getting in an out. Second issue is that really lo frame and sewer hookups. I could see it bottoming out while going over curbs or any uneven ground. One suggestion is they build a front storage box that could contain the battery and allow you to keep cords and tubes in. Also, where's the spare tire?
Unsure on the spare actually..
I’d love this as a guest house on a piece of land. Or a lake house:)
Kinda how I saw it
There should be at least an option for solar.
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Solar prep at minimum. With 12v refrigerators you don’t get the vent to run the cables. Easier to put it in when they build it. That is cool though!
Love this idea but the kitchen area needs reworking, there’s not enough countertop space. I would like to see the recliner removed and the counter top extended out with some more storage or the extra space can be used for a bigger oven and a convection microwave. If they use a 10.2 fridge instead of the residential fridge they can expand the countertop space on that side as well. Dishwasher seems like a waste to me but that’s a personal preference.
Yeah, this is definitely a different critter. I do agree. The kitchen counter space is very very limited in here.
This very well may be my tiny home. I can put this out back on my Pops' property
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2 ac units ducted and tinted windows along with battery tinder and euro chairs with footrest not recliners
I think it needs a solar package , yes… 😊❤
I. opposite I really don't like all the windows but oh my gosh I love TBE fest of it.
Love this, def think solar package should be an option.
Ty. What size seems right?
Josh. Youre the greatest!
Super kind of you. TY so much
This is a really cool RV, but I suppose the practical side of me can’t get over the lost space due to the covered patio. Instead, a fold-down patio for when you are at your destination added length when towing, but added space (main floor bedroom, added living space) for the majority of the time.
Yeah everything is a push pull
The covered patio, that is an actual patio is one of the main selling features of this unit.
I love the idea and I hope they make this a family of RVs. I'd love another few feet added for kitchen space and storage. Not sure how to accomplish more head height in the shower but that would be a must for me at 6'2". Beyond that, i love this setup for like a guest house or destination trailer idea. Can't see spending a month here like some 40+foot destination rigs but a long weekend to a week would be an adorable getaway
I suspect we will see 1-2 more of these layouts
Put enough solar on it to operate the 12v system.
This is the second model of this I've seen. The other was the larger version. The only thing nice about the interior on these, is the kitchen. Unfortunately, the kitchen should be at the other end with easy access to the deck/outside. The larger version does have a side door, making it a little more practical for RV parks.
Obviously, the low ceiling height in the shower is due to the loft above it. So, it would make more sense for the bathroom to be more centrally located to get more height, even if you have to sacrifice some bathroom space.
A more functional layout would be along the lines of the kitchen at the deck end, giving easy access to the outside from the kitchen/dining area. Add a dedicated dinette along the opposite side. Bathroom space directly behind the dinette, leaving the kitchen open to the living/entertainment space at the other end. Then add a side access door.
The electric fireplace/heater location is just dumb. Heat rises. If the idea is for having an auxiliary heat source, having it in the loft make no sense at all.
Yeah upstairs fireplace is uncommon but not sure where it would go
Very nice. My only dislikes is the shower height and the fact you can’t stand up in the loft if you’re aggressively folding laundry.