how to fix a very slow 3090
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- čas přidán 23. 12. 2022
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Wild to think how those signal caps got knocked off the back of a covered PCB like that. Always learn two things here. Send my card to you when it breaks, and learn diagnostics.
I find interesting his RMA got denied. Almost as if nobody ever bothered to run any diagnostics or visual inspection. They´ve probably just plugged it in and "if it works, it works".
I've tried learning diagnostics, but I couldn't figure out what was wrong with my friends 1080Ti, so I just went ahead and sent it to NWR for repair.
Edit: Apparently, there was nothing wrong with it, and now I believe that either the DDR4 memory or the PSU is the issue.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq but the gratis warranty repair would probably be denied anyway for mechanical damage
the backplate does come with some holes punched through it, chances are the bloke got unlucky enough to have his card bumped in just the right way
kinda funny how aesthetics compromised protection on this one but at least this seemed like a cheap fix
After watching your video I checked to see if my card was running at the right speed. And it was not. After a bit of research I realized the card was in the incorrect slot. I moved it to the proper slot and suddenly was running at 16x. I learned something and have you to thank. I use my card for AI and don't know if that change affects my work but it's nice to know I have the power if I need it. Thank you.
Always educating and shows the detail that Tony puts into each job !
Very interesting! When you mentioned the Bus Interface, I opened GPU-Z and was (at first) shocked to see my 3090 showing x4. Was afraid it meant a broken cap. However after some Googling, it turns out that I plugged my GPU into a PCIE slot that only supports x4 mode - I should have plugged it into the slot right above to get 16x! Without this video, I wouldn't have noticed it - thanks.
Noob mistake.
It's a little bit hard for me to understand how you were able to fit your card in a 4x slot. 4x PCIe slots are those little ones. Usually the long ones are 16x or 8x. I've never seen a long slot supporting only 4x speed. It may have some motherboard BIOS settings that limit the speed to 4x but otherwise you should've got 8x.
@@Dandan-tg6tjit's very common for the board manufacturers to have undersized 16x sockets. It all depends on how many onboard components they have. Such as, SATA, m.2, wifi, onboard video, and many others. The more they have the less bandwidth available for the expansion sockets. I have seen a few 16x sockets only supporting a 1x lane of speed. Sometimes if you have a 16x socket and you plug something into it that is 16x, It may disable another socket or cut the speed in half of another slot. You have you read the specifications in the manual. Those specs are topically not listed on the "features" summary on retailers product page. It's not specific to any manufacturer, they all do it. A new thing is some of the boards with 2 or 3 M.2 slots will have different speeds on each one so they don't match. Again that's to have more bandwidth for other components. This started happening when on board components were added to the motherboards as time goes by.
@@batemanjo9 Guess you're right. I never encountered this problem but I always was paying attention for the added components to have their dedicated controllers also onboard.
Both you and Alex down in Northridge, CA have excellent diagnostic and technical skills. The fact that you both can save these expensive GPUs so easily and with such confidence is a pleasure to observe. I almost wish I had a broken GPU that I could send to you so I could watch you repair it.
You can alway buy a cheap used none working 3090 on eBay.
@@AwesomeBlackDude That's one way, I guess. Then I could sell it back on ebay, lol.
@@markpmar0356 Most people have attempted to fix the card so you re probably not getting an easy fix
it's so helpful watching U'r vids! thanks 4 being there!
I learn new things every time watching videos from this channel.
Amazing vids as always and great to learn new stuff thank you and as always keep up the great work .
thanks !
I love watching these videos.
Great job, Yet again, Tony. Keep it up!
The thumbnail alone deserves a like
Thanks for the upload 💟
Great work!
Amazing repair!
Amazing Very good work as always
Thank you so much 😀
bro bro bro, you guys are masters
wow, you just fixed the smallest part of the board. +1 for today!
Can you make a GPU manufacturer tier list of sorts? I think it would be really helpful.
You're amazing
1:32 Wow, how would one know that?
I mean this is incredible how you can identify problems
I don't repair cards but I also knew it was going to be capacitors near the PCI-e slot once he said that the card wasn't using all the lanes. Not because I'm smart, but because I follow a lot of GPU repair channels and every time when there's a video with this problem it was caused by missing capacitors near the PCI-e slot. So it's one of those issues that you learn from previous experience. These guys probably repaired hundreds of cards so you begin to notice patterns.
I guess experience
the input electron steam needs some sort of buFfäir. : ?
Go evga go!
My 3080ti was super slow when I first installed it. I had to clean out all drivers and reinstalldr the Nvidia drivers and it fixed it. BUT, just days later the card quit altogether. Luckily the RMA was accepted and had a replacement in just a couple days.
love watching your vids , when i get a customer with a bad gpu i will send it your way . love how thorough u are
EVGA continues in production other hw, well except for graphics cards (2060super in my rig)... Merry Xmas from Europe, Czechia
You are amazing, brilliant, smart and methodical man.
i wish i could be honored to meet you when i visit USA someday.
god bless you and your family.
I wished I had your skills… I would open a repair store in my town
3dmark has a pcie bandwidth test which might be helpful for cases like this.
i am using free version. Maybe paid version has this feature i dont know.
I dont like 3dmark anyway. its slow.
4:56 2.0 x16 on a 3090 partially still limits performance because it basically is 4 times slower than a 4.0 x16 link. for little next to no drop you need to ensure the link speed is at least 3.0 x16
I think I would be nice if you could run a PCI-E bus stress test with a 4.0 CPU/board after repairing data lines. PCI-E 4.0 is known to have much lower margins for signal integrity issues than 3.0. I worry that any repair that alters the impedance of the differential pair might cause rare random issues due to PCI-E transmission errors.
Have motherboard on order. Hopefully it will work as expected.
thats what im thinking too. especially when people fix pads with wires. that will cause reflections.
I would'nt think about lanes capacitors, this is why the experience is always good to have.
Why the hell people dont care about their money those days. I mean why mess with such an expensive card ?
Thanks a lot for the video.
wow
hey, love your videos
also can you tell me what size of solderballs you use? I would like to try some things on an old GTX 470
0.45mm
Tony, do you have your channel on Odysee? If not then you should definitely make one. Also you have a nice taste in YT Music. Another great video ofcourse!
I do for another channel, not this one.
No need. Odysee has very low view count.
Nice job, but how does one manage to break some tiny capacitors off the mainboard? Was the manufacturer or user responsible in this situation do you think?
Part both.
Not covered properly by the shield.
User not careful.
this is this is why back plates are important even if you can get slightly better cooling
Was wondering that myself.
@@rochester3 Can get better cooling with a back plate if it's made of copper or aluminum, and thermal pads are used behind GPU and memory. Back plate becomes a passive heatsink.
@@Lurker-dk8jk vs chassis fans blowing air directly on to the PCB is the benefit of not having a backplate!
Just wanted to mention that you can use nail polish, if you don't have solder mask.
this mask is nothing more then a resin for SLA 3d printing
Where I can find that boardview, pls
05:00 well it should not be PCI-e 2.0 x16 at the time you test the card...
i don't expect 4.0 because of your system test but 3.0 should be for that cpu/mobo you have
I will definitely consider you if my GPU starts failing and an RMA is denied for whatever reason
Why are you using MSI 3080 schematics? How can one determine if the schematics of a certain brand and model are the same for a different brand and model?
Do you ever find yourself in need of donor boards? If so what kind work best?
pretty much any 20 or 30 series cards are good for donors.
Right now i only have couple of them.
how w turn into v
I have a Sapphire RX580 8GB Nitro+ and in Gpu-z it says it supports 8X3.0 and i tested my motherboard with another GPU and i can Get 16X 3.0 is it possible that i may have the same problem with my RX like this 3090 does?
Maybe your motherboard is not 3.0.
Mine is not.
how the hell did those get knocked off is the real story.
Does it not matter that the top capacitor was soldered on kinda crooked? I mean it looks like its even soldered to the one next to it a bit.
The solder pad was likely damaged. Easier to just solder onto the exposed trace.
Like and comment for the grow
How much would you charge to shunt mod a 3090 FE for me for a higher power draw? Yes I know I can do it myself, but if I can have someone with great hands to do it and support the business I would like to take that path. I want a higher power draw for my 3090 FE.
If you provide me with the resistor, i can solder it on for you for 30 bucks.
The accountability for this mod is on you especially on FE which is already running hotter then its competition.
I find comfort in the thought that I can just send you my card and you’ll probably do a better job than whatever the clowns that deal with RMAs can
Of course ourse I learned something today, that people shouldn't use their expensive 3090s as frisbees 😁
I have this same card and getting high memory temps of 102😩😩😩 I need help
get a backplate heatsink with fan
i've tried resetting the notification setting for the channel. Hopefully, from now on, I will have 'all' notifications.
If you have too many, they stack up and do not notify.
@@northwestrepair I'll look into that but I really only get a handful a day... sometimes none (on fridays). I always keep an eye out for new content from your channel so I'm only a day behind on this one.
360p is a little rough on the eyes. love the content.
I think higher rez is still uploading, the video is new
So its okay if some caps touch? How do you know if its safe 2:07
they are trace connected
do you have a schematic from the evga video card board?
dont know what that is
@@northwestrepair Google translator
What is the most common card you repair?
Nvidia
i wanna send my 1080ti to you for a fix so bad
bump
Hi there, I love your videos and have learned a lot from them.
Recently I have gotten a HD 5850 which doesn't perform at full speed, I checked GPUZ and as it turned out it wasn't working at x16 rather at X1 speed, is there any settings I should change for it to work at full speed or might there be a faulty part on it that prevents it from working at full capacity?
I know , it's a very old GPU but a free GPU is a good GPU so I was wondering if anyone can help me?
Make sure the card is under load when you check the pci-e speed, I don't know what would cause it to report x1, is it in the first pci-e slot?
If it's on a modern mobo which is using a NVME drive, then the drive will use the pci-e bandwidth
Check data lines front and back.
@@northwestrepair I think I found the problem, seems like the the cappacitors are faulty like in the video, look at the link below:
drive.google.com/file/d/17g8K9Xz1UXIvi1UnItQF-n4iZB3L1xMM/view?usp=drivesdk
@@sirfairplay9153 Remains at x1 even at full load, I have attached a picture of what I believe is the problem, similar to the video
what I find hilarious about EVGA is their downfall is purely reasons of inflated ego.
Would seem as though evga is dodging rma…… my 3090 is acting strange or my monitor will isolate the problem tomorrow
Cheap HDMI cables maybe.
@@northwestrepair This can definitely be an issue if a cheap/defective HDMI or Display Port cable is being used. I recently bought an LG C2 which can push 4k 120hz and my previous HDMI cable couldn't handle the bandwidth even though it was labeled as an HDMI 2.1 cable, bought a better certified (not expensive mind you, 10$ on amazon) cable and the issue was gone.
Rule of thumb is not to buy a cable longer than 6ft since affordable ones tend to be less reliable the longer they are.
Just a suggestion for you, you should get those tiny, tipped grinding pens from Alex at NothbridgeFix as they are really good, I'm using one instead of grinding mobos like you do. Great channel and some of the great work that you do is specialized work that very few can do, especially refloating and reballing gpus, next time I need a gpu fixed I know where to send it to, GREAT WORK and a great channel, KEEP IT UP and make longer videos as its a pleasure to watch😁👍.
Just a quick question, what do you think is the best bang for your bucks RTX gpu these days, as I want to buy one, either new or used to use with a gaming desktop with an i9 12900K cpu and 64GB (kit of 2x32GB) DDR5-5600Mhz ram, the mobo is a GIGABYTE Z690 AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.x), any help would be greatly apricated, thanks
I was thinking about it but its expensive.
Comment. 🤭
Thanks
You mean SNAIL speed?
You could've let it slide, bro. I mean, we're not exactly subscribed to his channel for English lessons, are we? 🙂
lol
mice
Snails are gross
sup man , enjoy your videos. if my card ever breaks im gonna hit you up on discord. much love.
I have my 970 GTX on the shelf in front of me. Will really miss EVGA.
Thanks for showing the serial number 2110103987002680, I'm going to register the card as my own now at EGVA.
LOL goodluck.
Serial numbers are shown allover the world.