No Fault Divorce WRECKED Crowder's Marriage, How No Fault Divorce Is DESTROYING American Families
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The saying is: “why agree to a contract when the other party is incentivized to break it”
Good thing this isn’t an applicable saying then
@@jloiben12ok BETA
@@jloiben12it is applicable though
@@jloiben12 🤡
Maybe viewing marriage as a contract to begin with is why your marriage failed
If you think that your spouse should continue to pay for your lifestyle at the level you knew it during your marriage you should stay married.
The court says the children need to have a similar lifestyle between homes/parents.
@@vade137 that's great. The court says lots of things. I wonder what the law ACTUALLY says about these matters when you get past the individual feelings of various family court judges?
@@vade137It defeats the purpose if you are taking soo much that the parent giving can't afford anything anymore because they are forced to give up 40-50% of their pay after taxes.
@@vade137the court just wants their cut
@@smashers2060100% they have to collect ____ amount of dollars to prove they’re “doing their job” and they don’t care how they get it. The amount of fees they take out for child support is ridiculous and they take it from both parties for “facilitating” the exchange.
"Irreconcilable differences" should mean, "You wanna leave, go. Don't pass Go, don't collect $200! - or any other money". Child support should always apply, but it has to be reasonable..
There is no "irreconcilable differences". The moment she wants to leave, she invents the most abusive, horrid, vile husband she possibly can, anyway. The very moment.
@@hairybubbles127 Well, I guess those are pretty irreconcilable! 🥴 Yes, I know many who've gone through this nonsense..
"Child support should always apply"
no it shouldn't. because the child is part of the marriage. you leave the marriage, you can grab your underwear, your toothbrush, some shoes and a bag and walk your ass out the door with just that.
@@MrDravousbingo. If she wants the kids, and she wants to leave, she ought to be able to support them.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036that's why men used to get custody then we decided women should have them and men pay for it in truth the kid should go with who can raise them which also means pay for them.
Marriage is a huge gamble. Period.
No. Choice a better partner.
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 You think people want to chose the wrong partner on purpose? 🙄
@@aldaoroman no, they just make bad choices or they are unable to attract a good partner
If you're rich, pre-nup...
No its not its Russian roulette
In Sweden a divorce is a filling fee and the two involved divide assets on their own. No alimony or child support. When he has the kids he pays. When she has the kids she pays. If she isn't working guess what she has to be an adult and get a job.
What if when they were together she quit her career to raise the kids while he was a work?
@@Donny_Double_Dip the divorce shouldn't be a cash grab. Period. She chose to quit working. She leaves that's on her. Just like any other couple breaking up.
@@abcdefghijklmno66109 she chose to quit working so the husband could keep working while she raised the kids. Thats the reality of a lot of divorces.
I’m assuming if the man chooses to leave she still doesn’t get anything? You act like this is a highschool relationship 😂
@@Donny_Double_Dip it is the dissolving of a relationship. It doesn't matter if they are 18 or 80. The government is the only difference between a girlfriend/boyfriend and a wife/husband. Without the government getting involved it is the exact same as a normal breakup. Kids? She pays for the kids when she has them, he pays when he has them. Look up a documentary called "Divorce corp". It dives deeply into this topic.
@@abcdefghijklmno66109 lol again. You’re acting like one parent doesn’t sacrifice their career. I don’t know if you’re like 18, never been with someone or just willfully ignorant but you’re not using critical thinking skills on this one lol
My husband and I literally had this conversation last year; that we would act like adults, raise the kids together and not argue in front of the kids if we found ourselves not loving each other anymore. To divorce, the cost, splitting custody, etc, it is just a nightmare for everyone involved. My husband and I love each other very much, we are in it for the long haul with our 3 kids, but if the time ever came then we would work together and raise the kids.
So even after your kids were grown you’d spend the rest of your life in an unhappy marriage ?
@@admiller67 “For better or worse, in sickness and in health, till death due us part”
I took those vows seriously when I married my husband. And I would never let myself become unhappy in my marriage, we are a team and we would work it out before it ever got that bad that we would think about divorce. We were just hypothetically talking and discussing worse case scenarios that would happen; we had been already having the tough conversation while working on our will if we both died and what would happen to our children.
@@admiller67don’t get married ever in your life with this mindset. You aren’t going to be happy every single day.
@@ki11aqueen5sorry, but i rather walk away from an unstable, difficult marriage than be struggling for the rest of my life. Life is too short to be unhappy
Even in Goodfellas Pauly had the sense to tell Henry to go back to Janice. Families are fractured and no longer help each other. Government and lawyers are now the family guide.
Karen was his wife. Janice was the goomar.
Paulie was banging Karen
@@Hotsaucedeluxe Oh yeah! Shit! I messed that up 😑. “Karen! what did you do Katen? What did you do!?” I should have remembered
I have an incredible story that I wish I could share with the world… I’ve been through some incredibly tough times due to a divorce, and being screwed by a system that cares more for “mom” than “family”
The Judicial system will bankrupt the Man and even confiscate all assets and future income.
That's criminal and should stop. There have been Men who committed suicide because everything they had was taken and any half of any future income they make will be confiscated by the courts.
Great video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
i have been in such a situation. i love my woman and unfortunately we separated about two years ago, but i could not let her go, so i had to do all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual adviser who helped me bring her back, now we are back together, and i must say i am enjoying every moment.
wow, please how did you get a spiritual adviser, and how do i reach her?
Her name is queen stella laveaux ,and she is great at what she does. you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
Because you a wimp.....
If you get a no fault, the person not wanting a divorce keeps all the assets
Wellllllll
not if you believe in traditional gender roles. then the wife should get half.
@@ashishpatel350traditional gender roles only work in the context of actual Patriarchy.
@@ashishpatel350traditional gender roles would mean the wife gets nothing if she leaves the marriage. The fuh?
@@DestructoDisk nope wife gets half of all assets .
And since she married him before he had any money it's pretty much half of the family assets. Seems definitely gay Steven doesn't want to do his husbandly duties
There's a reason why this kid has never been married he doesn't understand human behavior
I had a buddy who went to Vegas with his GF, after they both got drunk they thought getting married was a good idea. It lasted about a year, and it was a very turbulent marriage. It finally dissolved when she pulled a knife on him and stabbed him, he had a leather jacket on and the knife hit the zipper so there was no penetration. He divorced her shortly thereafter.
I bet he wishes there had been no penetration from the onset of that relationship 😂
I bet she was like a carnival ride in bed though.
Clearly at least one party is always responsible for a divorce I mean who files the divorce papers
I wanted the divorce, but she filed first to get sympathy from the courts. You can say I dragged my feet so my fault or you can say she is manipulating the system.
Maybe one side is abusing the other, and the victim filed first. Who's responsible for the divorce?
Women 70%+ of the time
@@CristiNeagu I like the way you think.
@@Cyrieus She may have filed first so that it would be held in HER jurisdiction (if you guys were separated at that time). Blue/liberal leaning counties are atrocious and women often abuse this (thankfully my attorney gave me heads up so we got in front of this). I read your comment above and also went through a painful divorce. You are not alone brother. I hope you and your children continue to get closer now that they are out of high school. Young men have no clue how evil women can truly be. Especially to good faithful men who desire nothing more than to have a family.
Women have the power - yet like Schroeder women choose the path which they benefit from.
They play the piano for the rest of the Peanuts gang? 🤣
(I knew what/who you meant, but I couldn’t pass it up)
Nope. Once the marraige is put into a court room the lawyers start playing the game of how to make the most money...and men and women are fair game. So, if a marraige ends up in court, escpecially if there are children, then most likely the man led a bad marraige.
Tim: I'm talking specifically about no fault divorce, not all these other scenarios where someone would clearly be at fault.
Other guy: WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER SCENARIOS WHERE SOMEONE IS CLEARLY AT FAULT TIM?!
Yeah, Sean has the worst take on this whole thing.
You nailed it. And Tim is 100% correct about No Fault Divorce. The men ALWAYS LOSE. The woman can cheat, be physically abusive, and do every other sort of evil and she STILL gets 50% of everything accrued during the marriage. Not to mention bank accounts that existed prior to marriage. If the balance goes below 1 PENNY from what the initial balance was b4 the marriage she gets half of the account. Pure insanity.
The problem being that Steve was obviously at fault. No one should abuse their spouse.
@@socrates1016 She didn't do any of those things, rather, Steven never proved any of those happened. Sounds like you're whining to back up someone who abused their spouse.
@@HandsomeLongshanks His take is worse than Tim's saying that a judge should use religious text to enforce legal matters?
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How does a judge force two people to live in the same house? Does Tim suggest judges be given the power to enforce where people sleep or how they spend their money?
Tim says "Then don't get married." Yeah, that's literally the feminists' trick of devaluing marriage. Yes, you leave the definition & requirements of marriage in tact, but what you've done is stripped marriage from most people *so that all the societal benefits of marriage disappear.*
It's like making buying a house more difficult so only the most intent & capable do it, but the end result is communities full of renters, and we know those communities are worse than those filled with owners.
Dude. Dude. My ex's perso ality did a 180. I didn't have bruises, but i did get death threats, then threats to harm our kids. Then there was harm done...I left. Best decision ever.
Why does the man suffer the most in divorce?
Lawyers. The End.
The one who makes the most money ends up funding the divorce. Could be a Woman, but usually its the Man.
is that the case?
@@TonyLewisOKR In terms of suicide rates yes
They don't always.
Tim, you are 100% correct. Today, it makes no sense for a man to get married at all. He looses everything even if he’s the injured party. I know! I’ve been divorced in Texas.
Nope. Depends on the lawyer. But, if you end up in Divorce Court the best thing you can do is swallow your ego and get out ASAP...the lawyers will take everything they can and make you hate your family.
You should follow the Lord and get married his way. Marriage isn’t about money, but about reflecting God’s glory. Live for God not money.
I could see weak men like Tim and Steven no longer being able to married.
@@mystdragon8530 God is fictional, marriage of other forms existed long before humans invented Abrahamic Religion.
Donating to gay Jared after he stuck his nose in a another man's marriage, yeah y'all both figs for that.
Jared knew her before Crowder, they are friends. Crowder is GAY...
@@mattnewby123 oh he knew her before hand, oh why didn't anyone say that from the jump? that completely justify him trying to keep a man from being in his kids lives 100%... you would think that if you're brain damaged.
@@mattnewby123 Oh, he knew her beforehand. Why didn't anyone say that from the jump? That totally justify him wanting to keep a man from seeing his kids 100% OK... You would think that only if you're brain damage.
@@kaosapprentice ill quote Crowder... "Fuckin watch it!"
@@mattnewby123 posted half the clip and expect me to care? Try again... You watch Tim Pool, maybe Crowder at some point? so you know people post things that makes them look good and the other look bad, right? Right? Where's the rest of the footage?
Honestly I don't care to see it this whole thing is non of our business it's between him, God and his wife. As much as he's a public figure when it comes to politics, his marriage ain't no of our business and should've stayed private, she's wrong for posting that out of context clip trying to gain sympathy points, yeah that kind of emotional terrorism doesn't work on me.
No fault divorce and feminism. I have the same story as many men. Had a manipulative and narcissistic wife. Was cheated on twice and still did all I could to save the marriage. I had hoped that asking her to rededicated ourselves to each other with a renewal of our vows. Within three months I was living seperate and in the process of a divorce. In the end I realized I was just holding on for the kids. The kids expressed they knew how unhappy I was and that gave me the confidence that they already knew that the marriage was over. I was able to get out of the mental abuse loop I was in.
Then set in the manipulation of the court system. A lawyer gave her all the right things to say and the court system ate it up and over time my custody went from 50/50 down to every other weekend. The scary part was a learning that that is how the state prefers it because they get money based on if there is a parent that has more custody than the other. I finally will stop being robbed this year as my kids graduate high school. I really wish that child support had specific things it could be spent on. A family should not be able to go on vacation using child support. There are unfortunately evil, vindictive and demonic ex-spouses out there. Thank you President Regan for all that you started. You may have not wanted it to become all it has been, but a significant amount of men are being robbed financially and tortured with the loss of time with their kids.
The problem is you cant specify what child support gets spent on. She is making $1000, the kids cost $500. If she was solely responsible for the kids she would have to pay the $500 and only have $500 leftover to do whatever else she wanted or needed to do with that money. The court orders you to pay the $500 so now she has an extra $500 to buy shoes and get her nails done. Whether she straight up uses your child support check to pay for her personal BS or she uses the check to take care of the kids and that frees up her extra money for personal BS, you are still funding her extra BS.
I make a similar argument in credit card rewards groups for comparison who say that Statement Credits are worse than pure Cashback. Its the same damn thing. I get $50 cashback I can go spend that $50. I get a $50 statement credit, that reduces my credit bill by $50, freeing up $50 of my own money that I can spend. The end result is the same amount of free money.
YOU supporting your kids allows HER to spend more money on herself, period.
Sorry man, but as a child raised on child support, i think that as long as the children are properly fed and educated, there's no problem if the child support money gets spent on things like vacations.
@@TheJosman there is an issue if the other side cannot afford vacations due to child support. California is all screwed up that one can “marry up” and have no need for the money, but the other side would benefit the children from having the money. It is just a screwed up situation period. Some how I cannot imagine you were included in the discussions of child support and the effects of it. If you were, I think there is a problem there in my opinion.
Apparently I just learned last week my great grandma was unhappy her whole marriage and therefore most of her life but couldn’t get divorced, her only hope was he would die at war but he survived ww2.
So your average woman then? 🤣
Simply look at its advocates. They are all the sort that treat a spouse as a "will do for now until something better comes along". People who treat others and disposable do not be determining how society evolves. They only determine how it dies.
Bruh needing a contract to keep a woman is not the flex you think it is. Holy fk.
The laws SHOULD be No Fault divorce is allowed... but you walk away and get nothing.... you want the money, then you have to prove a fault in the divorce. Sounds like a reasonable compromise. Logical.
I had a no fault divorce. I got to leave with my life and my dogs. That was enough
This is a country where women are incentivized to sleep around and it is the norm to get married after sleeping around, for both men and women. How can you ever expect marriages to work in that case? There is nothing really different between marriage and any other relationship except for the whole legal mess you signed yourself into. Women used to hold out until marriage, and having a child out of wedlock was an even bigger tabboo. But now you have effective contraceptives, abortion and a warped culture where its strange if a woman hasn't slept around with multiple partners by the time she gets married. I think marriage is a dying custom that will vanish, at least in the west, within a few hundred years at most.
So my beautiful loving wife, took all of our equity out of the house and used that to divorce me and leave me with a house completely underwater (2008). I will never get married again..
Damn! Sorry bro.
@@MarineScoutSniper She eventually remarried a high school sweetheart. I got to keep and raised my kid and got a Harley as a divorce present for myself, so win-win, I guess.
How did she do that without you knowing?
@@77thNYSVthey probably had a Home Equity Line of Credit or something similar and she ran up legal fees using the credit because she was party to the estate intil the divorce was finalized. When the ex-husband was awarded the house, he was responsible for paying back the line of credit.
@@77thNYSV We had a 50K line of credit with the bank (HELOC) and they had send checks that you could use to access the money. They were in the safe and she had access to them.
I will never get married. I'm 45 , have kids, supported my kids rightfully so but I will never fork over my money to another adult, unless my kids need assistance. But sure as hell not a grown adult
I warned crowder his wife was in it for the money in 2015. He called me names and blocked me. Crowder is getting what he deserves.
@@chadcadsonvii5258 thanks Chad. Much appreciated. Are you in Sydney? I have asked thousands of men in sydney to help me out with some things and they are all too afraid. They won't lift a finger to help me even after all I have done for them..
Some people just don't want to hear the truth. I lost friends by forewarning them too. It turned out I was right.
Why cant people just live together and not get married?. It literally only changes how the state handles your assests and taxes. If theres abuse of any kind then ideally you should be with someone long enough to find this out BEFORE you get married. Which means dont get married until you truly know someone. ( heres a hint. It usually takes longer than a year to really get to know someone )
Marriage in America is a Government Business for the Lawyers and Judicial System.
They want you to get married and divorced and remarried again and again.
Do NOT get married, its way too dangerous these days for men, the laws need to change first and take money out of the equation
You just need to find a good foreign religious girl and you're all set 👍
@@stephencorbin4043passport bros has entered the chat😂👍
Ever heard of a prenup?
@@TeachAManToPhish yeah, good luck with that 😂
Or, have a religious marraige for children. Keep the Government Contracts out of it.
If you don't want to handle the responsibilities of marriage, don't get married.
If you think there is a point where you could withhold sex from your partner unreasonably, do not get married.
Marriage is for adults, not for children in adult bodies.
What does it mean to “unreasonably withhold sex”?
@@admiller67 1 Corinthians 7:3-8
"The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights (goodwill, kindness, and what is due her as his wife), and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have [exclusive] authority and control over her own body, but the husband [has his rights]; likewise also the husband does not have [exclusive] authority and control over his body, but the wife [has her rights]. Do not refuse and deprive and defraud each other [of your due marital rights], except perhaps by mutual consent for a time, so that you may devote yourselves unhindered to prayer. But afterwards resume marital relations, lest Satan tempt you [to sin] through your lack of restraint of sexual desire."
If you aren't actually willing to follow Jesus by following His word then DONT GET MARRIED. It really is that simple.
BTW this isn't one sided towards gender, in the middle ages men who could not perform were allowed to be divorced by their wives after the elders of the town came into the bedchambers and watched the men fail to have intercourse.
@@admiller67 Using sex as a bargaining chip, or as a punishment, especially in petty scenarios, especially at length.
@@Selrisitai so women should become sex slaves and be down to have it whenever they're told??
Marriage is a religious institution .. if you do not believe in God and you are not a religious person .. marriage is NOT for you.
It’s not religious. People were married before 200 ad and Christianity existed. Religion is what screws up marriage. It’s a spiritual thing, not a legal thing.
I disagree, there have been non-religious formulations of marriage since forever. But marriage SHOULD be treated with the seriousness of a religious obligation. It's a lifetime commitment.
do indians marry?
do native americans marry?
do jews marry?
do buddists marry?
Marriage has nothing to do with "God" or Christianity. Marriages have existed before Christ and will exist after him.
And afterall what can your religion conserve? the pope himself said gay marriage is ok.
You sound the same as the guys that say white people invented time....
You think people weren’t married before Christ?
Which God? Yahweh, Christ, Krishna?
*25K a MONTH?!* How many shoes does she need? How many houses must she buy? What even is this?
Actual justice warrior has never found a woman's issue he wouldn't simp for
I think his main problem with this is he really hates crowder and so whatever side is the opposite of crowder is the side he's going to fall on.
Women: I gave up my dream of working 30 years as a dental hygenist, you never even got me a full time nanny, I didnt even have a top of the line Bentley.
The state shouldn’t be involved in marriage. No more state marriages period. Religious institution only.
The core problem isn't "no fault divorce," that's just one of the late-stage symptoms. The core problem is that the state abolished family clans because they rivaled the state for power. The result of that was a power gap wherein there were no large family tribunals to determine who did what wrong, knowing the man and woman involved, leading to a need for women's rights in order to satisfy that failing. The issue then became two part: 1) that's not the system women evolved for, they lie, a lot, and it takes family members to go "yeah, she's a liar, just ignore her" who are in charge of what happens if anything when lies are told and 2) the state realized that destruction of the family unit yields greater power. Now we have no fault divorce, the state pushing single mothers through propaganda designed to destroy what might otherwise be healthy relationships, and even the state taking children from their families to have them castrated through hormones or otherwise. Next up is literal pod-people, artificial wombs with mass sterilization (hello, mRNA,) and government + megacorp raised slaves.
That relationship was over Long ago. Go look at the change my mind videos, earlier ones. She was in the background, her body language speaks volumes. She wanted to be anywhere but there and would f about on her phone. Youll see .
She was a 304.
Guy, you restored my faith in humanity. It took some scrolling but finally found some sanity. Tim is wrong. A marriage doesn't get destroyed by no fault divorce. The marriage isn't any less destroyed if a wife desperately wants to be anywhere but with you but legally can't leave.
@@thenightingale7405 if not mistaken, it was Prior to being married... for sure before the twins. But i may be wrong on the marriage part. cheers, and thanks.
@@fetus2280 All I am saying is that the marriage is destroyed the moment that one party truly decides that they want out. Legally trapping them there doesn't make it any less destroyed.
@@thenightingale7405 gotcha.
How does one sit and listen to this shit and come away thinking they gained something?
Many who get married by a pastor or a priest don’t understand that not only is a a covenant with each other but a covenant with God.
People don’t take that serious anymore. It’s sad.
Hard to take religion seriously when you know the definition of faith
@@TyrannoJoris_Rex You mean when you _don't_ know the definition of _faith?_
@@Selrisitai Nope
People need PRE marriage counseling . Most people don’t even put in 1/10 of the effort in working in their relationship as they do with the wedding.
If you're married income is shared. You can't block one from using your estates money because it is their money too.
Tim is right here…. Marriage is a sacred covenant.
You get married, you make it work come hell or high water.
You’re still a virgin aren’t you?
Crowder wasn't willing to man up though
The only point he has here is that Marriage is serious and most people should not get married to certain people unfirtunately you can never really tell. Howevere there are ways to reconcile and it doesn't require both adults to forcibly live together, it's legally binding not spiritually binding.
If you want to go this way, then you will end up with wayyyyy more single parents. Not ideal.
@@ikkas00 probably yea. Marriage seems to be a little to strict for the spirit if you know what I mean...
1:47 that exact fact has turned some men off getting married at all. Add to the division of wealth a continued payment after the divorce for years or sometimes just forever and you can see why men are leery of tying the knot.
She shouldnt be entitled to crowders resources if shes not married to him.
Then he should've had a prenup stating so
If we turn over the authority of divorce to the ecclesiastical authorities, rather than the government, it solves most of the problems.
All you need to get a marriage annulled in the Catholic Church is enough money to pay them off
No fault divorce is a huge problem. Without amending that, I can only tell young people that a prenuptial agreement is essential if you are determined to get married.
Unfortunately the mindset of newer generations has been significantly corrupted, and it is very hard to tell who is a person who will stick with you through the hard times (spoiler alert: there will be hard times). In my own case, my ex and I had 6+ years of good marriage and 2 kids, both Christian, but when I became physically ill and depressed, she checked out after about 1 year. Refused to speak to me, refused counseling, refused to even talk to pastor at the church. I’ve been left to fight for equitable custody, support two households (she works very little), and pay all the massive legal fees for 2 attorneys. How could I recommend marriage to any young man? Unfortunately I cannot, but I would tell them if they choose to marry, a prenup should be a requirement.
Steven crowder being a closeted homosexual is what ruined his marriage me thinks
No one should ever get married without researching the legal and the monetary ramifications of the worst most binding contact you will ever enter into.
I just watched his latest episode, it was pretty funny and I it LOOKS like Crowder has recovered and is back to his usual funny but informative ways.
Anyone else agree?
He was never funny or informative
Tim is right, people are too quick to divorce…relationships take work. This is a discussion that should happen BEFORE marriage.
Tim thinks two American citizens rights should be taken from them and they will be forced into a relationship they want out of.
The divorce discourse seems to mainly be held by those who’ve never been through a divorce and it shows. Even getting in front of a judge is a miracle and you don’t go for the lecture, you go for legally enforceable decisions. Even then getting a judge’s orders enforced is another monumental effort. And women should NOT have to get BEAT UP in order to get divorced that’s ridiculous!
You think "No fault divorce" causes the destruction of Families? Wrong Tim, it's the Feminist Society, Marriage lost its meaning, it's no more "Until death do us apart", no more "One man with 1 woman" or women being Virgins on the wedding night, ¿So What's the point? A Man can't even be sure the Baby is "His" yet he bears the Responsibility even if he doesn't want to.
Marriage Lost its meaning=No Fault Divorce
@@MarineScoutSniper thanks to Feminist sympathizers
Lmao all 3 of my babies came out looking like little clones of my husband, even our daughter. I'm pretty sure most men can tell if the baby is theirs and not knowing based on looks is rare, though I know people it's happened to. Most babies share a resemblance to their father, and when in doubt, DNA tests.
Sounds like you're mad that we don't live in a religious state
@@TeachAManToPhish Are you "Proud" of how Relationships become meaningless?
Shawn needs to spend some time on the Sprinkle Sprinkle side of the internet. There are a huge number of women who are only marrying with the idea of benefiting financially from divorce. If divorce wasn’t so lucrative for these women, they’d never even have considered getting married.
Marriage is a partnership. People confuse that with being in love or something. Yeah, being in love is obviously the ideal, but people seem to think that's all it is, and worse, people's interpretation of what love is now, is some kind of chemically induced feeling or emotion, rather being an active choice. Love is a verb, not a noun (in this context)
But not a financial partnership.
@@MarineScoutSniper - Right. It's a partnership for building a family, instead of a business. Considering it's supposed to be the atomic building block of a civilization, it's pretty damn important, and sadly it's not seen that way anymore, which is why our civilization is tragically sinking into the abyss right now 🤦♂️
@@kyled.7748 agreed
Thankyou someone said It. Sorry but reality is you will fall out of love at some point during a marriage 9 times out of 10. At some point you have to actually work on it and deal with the annoying parts see past that and fall in love all over again. It's a prosses and worth it.
Serial monogamy is the norm. It's just addiction to the rush of chemicals that comes with a new relationship, which tend to fade off a bit after 2-3 years. After 3-5 years lots of people leave their relationship, believing they're no longer in love and/or that they're just not the right person.
Marriage is definitely a vocation and something designed for society’s sake. It isn’t Dating+
This. Also the lack of mentioning that one of the biggest reasons for marriage is to have children bothered me. In Japan for example couples are encouraged to wait until their children have come of age to divorce because it is better for a kid to be raised in a home with both parents, and thus better for society later down the line, than to have children raised in broken a home.
@@newmoonlake precisely, and I’d consider that example to be the minimum if we wanted to adopt a similar standard practice.
I notice that families usually do better these days when they stick together even after the kids are older. Especially for people of more modest income. You see it in Asian and Hispanic communities to this day and it garners great success. I have a dozen Mexican friends who would otherwise be on the streets after college. One friend in particular helped buy a massive home and currently lives with 4 siblings and 1 sibling in-law, two parents, 3 grandparents, and two small kids. His generation was the first to be get into college, and the next generation already has their education covered at the age of 2 and 3 years old.
Westerners dropped this practice around the turn of the century when opportunities were best achieved in the smallest family unit possible. Going out some place and setting down new roots in a booming local economy i.e. the nuclear family. Assuming the original family unit started out from nothing, you’re usually setting the children’s opportunity counter back to near zero once they’re out of the nest. If they didn’t make the right choices, or never knew the right choice to begin with, they’re usually screwed.
BASED Tim went off, loved it.
He'll go off in court for the defamation case he's a part of.
@@SciontheDark You're part of the problem. Keep your opinions to yourself, I feel like I lost I.Q. points reading your reply.
@@playanddisplay3636 Did it strain your brain that hard to read a big word like "defamation?" Don't hurt yourself.
@@SciontheDark Don't use your whole repertoire of four syllable words in one reply. You're silly and clearly insecure. Peace. 😆🤣
@@playanddisplay3636 I'm not the one who thinks abusing your wife and whining about losing in the divorce is "based."
Why are divorces so expensive?
Because they’re worth every penny.
Lawyers
Yes. if you get married and have children, you do whatever it takes to provide those children with a full family.
I’m with Tim on this. It’s a sacred covenant. I worked at a gas station and still saved up for a 1ct diamond ring because I wanted her to know how serious I was. She had to chase me for years and for a girl to finally catch her man it’s like winning the Super Bowl and the World Series for her. She was the happiest wife and I tried to be the best husband and father until I lost her to cancer
I’m so sorry for your loss. Such a sweet story
Good lord it's bad take after bad take.
First, Crowder was abusive. If the Ring camera video is the abominable way he behaves *when people are watching*, I can only imagine how bad it was when no one could see him.
Second, the business is community property in the state of Texas. She was involved in building it. Crowder himself has not been ordered to pay support. The BUSINESS has been ordered to provide an equitable allowance to Hillary *as a founding member*. All of that is being eaten by legal fees from the divorce and Crowder's personal lawsuits against her. The strat is clearly to bury her in legal fees she cannot pay, while he has near unlimited resources. Yeah. That's fair. /s
Third, your threshold is a woman being beaten by her husband to the point of hospitalization? That's so goddamn disgusting it's hardly worthy of a response, but abuse takes a lot of forms. Some of those forms are very hard to prove. Your "ideal" here will lead to an explosion in female suicides. How do I know this? Look at the suicide rate pre-divorce reform ad after. But I guess dead women are cool as long as a man is guaranteed to keep his money, amirite?
Finally, I find it interesting that you've continually ignored ALL evidence of Crowder's wrongdoing and use of lawfare. You continually bend yourself into a logical pretzel to paint Crowder (and men more broadly) as innocent victims. I can't tell at this point what is genuinely your opinion, and what is a grift designed to be used as intellectual masturbation by an increasingly mgtow oriented audience.
22yrs. Same man. No marriage. Different banks. The way I see it is we are married. If we got married on paper my value drops 60% if we file taxes together. Where's the initiative to get married? To have a family? It's been destroyed.
That guy's example is stupid because when you're still married the money is a marital asset and legally belongs to both people
Only if the money is in a joint account. If your finances are separated it doesn't belong to both. Why so many men keep separate accounts now.
Oh, now I understand why Sean is so adamant against Crowder. He's getting married and he's entirely projecting
If a wife wants to leave, then she leaves the family. Kids stay with dad and everyone knows who left. Same thing if the husband wants to go. Adultery is leaving the marriage and family. Who ever leaves pays the one that didn’t regardless. Ex-wife needs to pay for a maid so the husband and kids can live the same life style.
Amen, Tim, that view is EXACTLY the view that everyone should have about marriage. It’s been the pillar of traditional marriage for literally HUNDREDS if not thousands of years! I know it’s like acid to the ears of people who think “Times have changed, man” “Marriage isn’t like that any more, man” “If you don’t like someone, screw ‘em, get out of the marriage, you gotta be happy and that’s all there is to it” These are the same people that leave jobs if they feel like someone looked at them funny, just leave. College just isn’t working out cause it’s hard and I don’t like things that are hard, just leave. The people in my church don’t greet me every time I go and I don’t like the music they play, just leave. Any little inconvenience, any bother, anything that isn’t just the exact way they want to live their life, just leave. God forbid they feel any discomfort and learn from hard times and what it means to stay loyal. This generation is going to end up alone at the end of their lives and wonder what they could’ve done better. Ah screw it, it was everyone else’s fault, they made me feel bad
AJW needs to stick to crime stats.
No Fault Divorce means marriage is pointless. Only incentive is that useless tax cut.
Why is he pretending that staying home with your kids isn't a privilege that most people won't get.stop victimizing that privilege. It like ohh nooo I get to spend time with my kids and family ohhhh noooo. It's a privilege not a burden.
Obviously you've never been a stay at home mom. It is a privilege, but it is also an immense amount of work and dedication. It also requires that you give up many years of your youth that otherwise could be spent on employment opportunities that you otherwise likely won't get. It is a sacrifice just like the man working and supporting the family is sacrifice.
@@daughteroftime8047 It's not a sacrifice, it's an investment in your future. It could be said exactly the same about a husband - he's sacrificing his best years to support a family while he could be pursuing passions. Raising kids is an investment for a wife, istead of wasting your best years on a useless cubicle rat race, you raise children and enshure your safety when you're old.
Raising kids and running a household is a full time job. If anyone needs proof of the value of that work, they only need to look at the cost of having someone else look after your child all day while you're working. Being able to support a family on a single income is a privilege sure, but you're missing the point. It's not without it's own costs. First, it's actual work. It's not spending an hour cleaning then watching TV all day. Second, being a stay at home parent means taking yourself out of the workforce. You aren't earning a salary or gaining experience to put on your resume for several years. That heavily limits the jobs you'll be qualified for and the salary you'll be able to negotiate if/when you go back to work. Employers are far more likely to select applicants with more experience and more recent experience, especially in tech fields where things move quickly.
@@kirillkokorev817 I literally said that the man was also making sacrifices for his family.
@@nightshadesalad well put. Thank you for having some sense!
Shouldn’t date if you’re not willing to be committed and married! It’s not a sport or hobby!!
ok but what if you are willing to commit. you get married to someone who vows to commit to you. and then a year later they start getting distant and and hateful towards you, neglect you, don't do anything a spouse should. How long do you live like that?
@@bobowon5450first would try to work it on and if nothing happens or don’t get better then I think it’s best to get a divorce.
@@bobowon5450i think that's somewhere between irreconcilable differences and abuse (yes abuse can be reciprocal, people are messed up) not a legal expert but i think those would be considered "faults"
As if that is going to stop Women playing to get Money from the Man
@@KyronettaAnd who do you think gets the short end of the stick
Gotta love Tim’s fake badass stories
"For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”
Marriage is a choice. Don't make the wrong choice with the wrong woman or man.
Who makes sure of that?
@@aldaoroman You do. Take responsibility for yourself and your actions.
@@tak178 Why should I also take responsibility for her choices?
@@aldaoroman You have a problem with reading comprehension.
I actually agree with Tim on this one... when one marries, one is not only agreeing to the contract between man & wife but the institution of marriage itself. Of course, times will get tough, but that's when one must find the resolve to push through. "No fault divorce" is an embarrassment to the institution of marriage.
Don't get me started on children outside of wedlock, IVF & of course children in a homosexual relationship.
You don’t have a wife
Tim, I 100% agree with you!!
Divorce is about Federal Govt being in your personal business for tax purposes and being an enforcer of Religious marriage contracts. Neither should be allowed.
You can get married and not be recognized by the GOVT.
Religious marriage and a State/Fed recognized marriage are different.
You have a choice.
If you don't like the Fed Govt being in your Religious and personal life, Change the Govt or make a choice.
Marriage and family values (religious) have been bastardized by the Fed Govt upon its recognition of a Religious contract.
The problem isn't divorce.
We have been married 40 years - 2 kids and 4 grandkids. Both of our names are on everything. We started off with nothing built a family, home, and life together.
Pick the right mate. It is about commitment - there are good times and bad times for both people.
My parents are like you and your spouse. But the mindset of younger generations is corrupted, and it is very hard to tell who is a person who will stick with you through the hard times. My ex and I had 6+ years of good marriage and 2 kids, both Christian, but when I became physically ill and depressed, she checked out after about 1 year. Refused to speak to me, refused counseling, refused to even talk to pastor at the church. I’ve been left to fight for equitable custody, support two households (she works very little), and pay all the legal fees for 2 attorneys. How could I recommend marriage to any young man? Unfortunately I cannot, but I would tell them if they choose to marry, a prenup should be a requirement.
Yeah... you and I are regular people.
Crowder is making millions, and his wife can take a bunch of it through divorce.
It's basically a scam.
It used to be, if it was built in the marriage it is split in the divorce.
I think that there is also the problem that a woman with kids will find it harder to find another husband than a man with a good job. So that does need to be compensated for. Also, you have to determine men from using the marriage to by pass people religious restrictions. Also, there is something up with having a person miss out on their 20’s when looking for a job. You can’t make that time up and you can’t tell if she would have made more money.
Tim pool: relationship expert. 😂
I get the feeling Crowder ruined Crowders marriage.....but yes, we need to get rid of no fault divorce.
I don't think No Fault Divorce would apply to Steven Crowder's divorce...
Thanks a lot, Pres. Reagan.
the only thing that wrecked Crowder's marriage was his abysmal treatment of his wife. It's videotaped FFS.
I agree with Tim.
Yep, Tim has a point here and in funny sense ot is the Christian position. The only way out is death, so if that isn't a possibility for you then don't get married. The problem is that people think marriage is to make you happy and you have to be a good person to enjoy that marriage... what if instead marriage is meant to make you a better person and to keep you in that training when it gets tough, you find happiness in it. Another way to think about it is that marriage is NOT a spa for self pampering but a GYM for self improvement. When my wife and I went through pre Cana we were taught among other things horror stories and then were always told "if this is a problem or a non negotiable, it is better for you to not get married". Millennials (crowder being one) unfortunately were not raised to have the emotional/psychological/spiritual fortitude to be married (be it because of government education or Gen x missing their duties) so it will take a lot of training to be married and we are seeing the struggles now.
Nah bro, Stephen Crowder wrecked his own marriage by being an insufferable asshole.
I thank God everyday for no fault divorce. I was married to an abusive violent, dead beat cheater
I put him out, filed for divorce and after two years I was free to go on with my life if he “ loved “ me he had no business boinking a 15 year old girl while I worked to support both of us
Want to stop divorce? Grow up and be better men
No one needs to put up with your BS
Even if you don't get married they will get you with common law.
Agree with Tim. Seriously people just divorce at the drop of a hat nowadays. Relationships will have ups and downs, life has ups and downs get used to it, grow up and act like responsible human beings and work things out, learn to compromise and know that both of you can be wrong at times, accept responsibility and acknowledge your mistakes. You are not princesses nor princes. Stupidity and selfishness is astounding these days 🙄
Spoken like someone with no real dating experience
Marriage is a gamble because of no fault divorce. My fix is: if it’s a no fault divorce, you both leave with what you came into the marriage with. That’s it. Whoever’s name is on the car title gets the car, same for the house, business, income, whatever. Whoever can provide better for the kids also gets the kids
Dodged that lol. I don't think I'd give up my peace and quiet for anything.
Holy matrimony is beautiful. Wifey and I were joined in the eyes of Jesus, and His Majesty sustains us and keeps our marriage growing stronger and healthier each day. Jesus truly is the answer, but both individuals need to adhere to His commands for it to function properly.
I think people are for Jared because it always seemed like Crowder was bullying Jared... back when Jared was working for Crowder.
With no-fault divorce ... marriage being civil not sacred ... you avoid most of the fighting and lawyers who will charge you $400 per hour for just one lawyer. Admit you want to ban divorce entirely, or are you banning marriage entirely ;-) Also I don't accept Tim as my priest ;-)
Tim is absolutely right here!