Well you worked hard on the video so I will share my comments. I played as a pro from 98 to 03. Mostly overseas and grew up in Chicago getting to play often with and against some of the greatest that the Chi produced. And while I have not played against either of these 3, I am certain that MJ is the GOAT. The case I make for this is rooted in several aspects of Mike's game and persona and mentality vs LeBrons. I know you said Kobe is your favorite...I only hoop in his shoes and no one else's out of honor for his life and work and contributions to the game. But MJ is the GOAT. Sure we can talk about being 6-0 in the finals but that would not be complete with adding that he NEVER saw a game 7 in the finals. That speaks to his murder mindset. He does not want to just beat you. He wanted to destroy you and take away all hope. No one ever accused Bron of this. He also always let his game talk for him. You can not find video of MJ talking about himself and how great he is however Bron is constantly singing his own praises while Mike's opponents did the talking on behalf of his game. That's different. Bron is an exceptionally gifted player...a freight train...his mind is sharp...and his skills are a result of his work to make sure his body is both fed and trained to be a long lasting pro. However his legacy is marred in my eyes by two very concerning faults. He is NOT CLUTCH at all having made 19 of 107 clutch shots ( www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895 ) where MJ has made 50% of his ( playtoday.co/blog/guides/lebron-vs-jordan/#:~:text=Throughout%20his%20career%2C%20Jordan's%20stats,closing%20minutes%20of%20the%20game. and he is completely unreliable at the free throw line when it matters dropping from 75% regular season to 66% in the clutch (over a 3 year span www.82games.com/random23.htm ). And he is a known flopper ( czcams.com/users/results?search_query=lebron+flopping ). And sure he is not the only flopper nor the first...but he is the ONLY one to do it while being the face of the NBA which prompted the first ever fine and penalty for flopping. No one ever thought to do that when Rodman, Divac, and Laimbeer would flail around. His flopping speaks to his character...it tells me that he is a whiny person and that in the league that used to have t shirts when I played that said NBA - No Babies Allowed is unacceptable. As someone who has experienced BOTH eras, I can confidently say that today's basketball is the better basketball. Basketball is a game of rhythm and flow and now that the league has removed the brutal defenses that my era faced, the game flows as evidenced by the most 50 point games ever this season (not counting when Wilt played). In the 90s it was so incredibly physical that Rod Strickland said that he faced two bullies in the paint after he beat his man off the dribble. The thugs in the league then were incredible enforcers and often played dirty in a way that is thankfully unacceptable today. Today there are FAR more skilled players at every position whereas my era, guys were one maybe two dimensional.
MJ Goat!🐐 Kobe’s third on the list LeBron James is either 10th or 11th. This is no hating. I just watch his game and it’s not what the media portrays it to be.
As soon as I see Jordan, Lebron and Kobe in a title or on the same video I don't even have to watch it to know B.S. is in abundance. Kobe belongs nowhere near the GOAT conversation. All things considered and put in context, Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan and Lebron are the 5 greatest NBA players all-time. Jordan was labeled the GOAT back in the 90s and no player has ever been a threat to his airness mythical title until Lebron James. Jordan and James are the two most dominant non bigs ever. Just opposite sides of the same coin.
You call LeBron Excellence when the man started out shooting a free throw average of 75% and never got above it in all of the years he has played in shooting 75% in free throws and never play in defense that's what you call Excellence know the other two had Excellence Larry Bird had Excellence there are players that had Excellence but LeBron James does not have Excellence because to be the greatest player you have to play the same on both ends of the Court you have to play the same hardness on defense as you do on offense and LeBron James did not do that and has not done that
I don't think LeBron James is even in the top six of the greatest players of all time the first two is Michael Jordan and then nearly a duplicate of Michael Jordan was Kobe Bryant LeBron James is not even in the picture of greatest player because the man did not play defense
It's because of the three-point shot the defense was spread out where when Michael Jordan was slamming on everybody three or four players at the same time LeBron James wasn't slamming on anybody because there was nobody in the middle it was all spread out the offense was spread out so the defense was spread out because of the 3-point shot there has not been a mid-range shooter that has even come close to Michael Jordan there's not hardly any mid-range Shooters out there the three-point shot has actually ruined the game of basketball it is either dunk or a 3-point shot and that is not pretty basketball that is not great ball movement that is not making great passes like they did back during Jordan's Journey and if you want to compare it to games played Michael Jordan blows LeBron James away in every statistic the only thing that LeBron James has over Michael Jordan is longevity that has nothing to do with the greatness of a player daddy that just means that LeBron James like I said before never played defense that is what is hardest on your knees is defense he is vertical jump was about 10 inches shorter than Michael Jordan's that's why Michael Jordan could hang in the air Kobe's was about 6 inches blasting Michael Jordan's if you watch Kobe shots they were quick shots they were not hanging in the air and wait for the defender to come down they were get the ball off before the defender got his hands up there has been nobody that has been able to hang in the air like Michael Jordan since Michael Jordan the way you are describing this is stupid all you have to do is look at the statistics you haven't mentioned the shity average of LeBron James free throw shooting which is a very big part of basketball he was never over 75% from the time he came into the league you would think he would get better but he hasn't it still 75 or below that's a shity free throw average Junior High girls average that
See you never mentioned defense you never mentioned the difference in defense that Kobe Bryant played and Michael Jordan played compared to LeBron's no defense and the two greatest players of all time were not floppers everybody knows LeBron James is a Flopper I don't even think his own fans can say he's not a Flopper and then I go back to defense again the man had no defense the man rested on defense that's why he had the longevity
😅 and LeBron never played defense so why don't you put that out there why don't you put that LeBron has lasted so long because he only played one end of the Court the reason Michael Jordan did not last that long was his knees and defense wears out your knees a lot more than offense it's no wonder LeBron James has lasted so long he never played defense that's where he rested how many all defensive teams has LeBron James been on
1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Larry Bird 5. Magic Johnson 6. Tim Duncan 7. Bill Russell 8. Wilt Chamberlain 9. Kobe Bryant
But but but. lol I can’t help but laugh when I see Kobe being put in these conversations. Like bro, there’s 8-10 other names before you get to the Kobe debate.
Lebron outside 3 feet is 37%. Go look up lebrons career clutch fg% 🤢. All this while being a player compared to a freight train that never gets called for charge and gets 2 free shots everytime he flops or misses. Lebron is not top 5 all time
@simplecleaning4296 I can give you the sources for his stats if you want. His career clutch stats are the most shocking. 20 out of 117 clutch shots made in his career 17.5%. 7 from 57 from 3 point range 12.3%. And those stats are just 5 seconds left in the 4th or overtime with a shot to either win or tie the game. It doesn't even include the multiple premature panick bricks he throws up with 6 or more seconds left. And espn would have you believe he's the most clutch player of all time 🤣. Most nba media skew stats to make him look way better than he actually is. They straight lied about his +/- this last season to spread the narrative that his team is shit without him on the floor. I don't blame people for believing he's better than that he is because that's all they talk about and a quick google search will have you believe that too. But if you actually look into the stats and put them in proper context he for sure is not top 5 all time
@biz09ification Once again, cherry-picking stats is crazy. In the playoffs, LeBron james is actually 7/12 with one second on the clock. Compared to the last 9 MVP winners, it is 6/50 in those same situations. The last 5 seconds of a playoffs game tied or up 3 LeBron James is 6/13, last 10 seconds, 24 seconds 10/25,"Last 30 11/23 Last min 21/45 in the situation. Most game winning shots with 11 by far the most ever in the playoffs, most buzzer beats with 5 by far the most ever, in fact LeBron James has hit over 10% of all of the buzzer beats in the playoffs history. Best in elimination games over 10 games, eliminating opponents he's the best, and also game 7s LeBron James is the best ever. Ever clutch situation LeBron James is one of the best in the playoffs by a mile.
Michael Jordan of course is the number goat in the NBA
Well you worked hard on the video so I will share my comments. I played as a pro from 98 to 03. Mostly overseas and grew up in Chicago getting to play often with and against some of the greatest that the Chi produced. And while I have not played against either of these 3, I am certain that MJ is the GOAT. The case I make for this is rooted in several aspects of Mike's game and persona and mentality vs LeBrons. I know you said Kobe is your favorite...I only hoop in his shoes and no one else's out of honor for his life and work and contributions to the game.
But MJ is the GOAT. Sure we can talk about being 6-0 in the finals but that would not be complete with adding that he NEVER saw a game 7 in the finals. That speaks to his murder mindset. He does not want to just beat you. He wanted to destroy you and take away all hope. No one ever accused Bron of this. He also always let his game talk for him. You can not find video of MJ talking about himself and how great he is however Bron is constantly singing his own praises while Mike's opponents did the talking on behalf of his game. That's different.
Bron is an exceptionally gifted player...a freight train...his mind is sharp...and his skills are a result of his work to make sure his body is both fed and trained to be a long lasting pro. However his legacy is marred in my eyes by two very concerning faults. He is NOT CLUTCH at all having made 19 of 107 clutch shots ( www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895 ) where MJ has made 50% of his ( playtoday.co/blog/guides/lebron-vs-jordan/#:~:text=Throughout%20his%20career%2C%20Jordan's%20stats,closing%20minutes%20of%20the%20game. and he is completely unreliable at the free throw line when it matters dropping from 75% regular season to 66% in the clutch (over a 3 year span www.82games.com/random23.htm ). And he is a known flopper ( czcams.com/users/results?search_query=lebron+flopping ). And sure he is not the only flopper nor the first...but he is the ONLY one to do it while being the face of the NBA which prompted the first ever fine and penalty for flopping. No one ever thought to do that when Rodman, Divac, and Laimbeer would flail around. His flopping speaks to his character...it tells me that he is a whiny person and that in the league that used to have t shirts when I played that said NBA - No Babies Allowed is unacceptable.
As someone who has experienced BOTH eras, I can confidently say that today's basketball is the better basketball. Basketball is a game of rhythm and flow and now that the league has removed the brutal defenses that my era faced, the game flows as evidenced by the most 50 point games ever this season (not counting when Wilt played). In the 90s it was so incredibly physical that Rod Strickland said that he faced two bullies in the paint after he beat his man off the dribble. The thugs in the league then were incredible enforcers and often played dirty in a way that is thankfully unacceptable today. Today there are FAR more skilled players at every position whereas my era, guys were one maybe two dimensional.
I definitely appreciate your post and your perspective as well. I can definitely understand why MJ is considered the GOAT
LBJ shouldn’t be with these two guys. He’s not skilled enough
Facts 😂😂😂
No only Mj only never thought of the two as a Goat,the impact that Jordan made in NBA the two only benifitted from it
Bird,Bird,Bird!!!
MJ Goat!🐐 Kobe’s third on the list LeBron James is either 10th or 11th. This is no hating. I just watch his game and it’s not what the media portrays it to be.
As soon as I see Jordan, Lebron and Kobe in a title or on the same video I don't even have to watch it to know B.S. is in abundance. Kobe belongs nowhere near the GOAT conversation. All things considered and put in context, Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan and Lebron are the 5 greatest NBA players all-time. Jordan was labeled the GOAT back in the 90s and no player has ever been a threat to his airness mythical title until Lebron James. Jordan and James are the two most dominant non bigs ever. Just opposite sides of the same coin.
You call LeBron Excellence when the man started out shooting a free throw average of 75% and never got above it in all of the years he has played in shooting 75% in free throws and never play in defense that's what you call Excellence know the other two had Excellence Larry Bird had Excellence there are players that had Excellence but LeBron James does not have Excellence because to be the greatest player you have to play the same on both ends of the Court you have to play the same hardness on defense as you do on offense and LeBron James did not do that and has not done that
Lebron 🎉 the GOAT 🎉🎉king James
😂😂😂 LBJ ain't never get 3 peat, Kobe, Bird, MJ did it. 😅
I don't think LeBron James is even in the top six of the greatest players of all time the first two is Michael Jordan and then nearly a duplicate of Michael Jordan was Kobe Bryant LeBron James is not even in the picture of greatest player because the man did not play defense
It's because of the three-point shot the defense was spread out where when Michael Jordan was slamming on everybody three or four players at the same time LeBron James wasn't slamming on anybody because there was nobody in the middle it was all spread out the offense was spread out so the defense was spread out because of the 3-point shot there has not been a mid-range shooter that has even come close to Michael Jordan there's not hardly any mid-range Shooters out there the three-point shot has actually ruined the game of basketball it is either dunk or a 3-point shot and that is not pretty basketball that is not great ball movement that is not making great passes like they did back during Jordan's Journey and if you want to compare it to games played Michael Jordan blows LeBron James away in every statistic the only thing that LeBron James has over Michael Jordan is longevity that has nothing to do with the greatness of a player daddy that just means that LeBron James like I said before never played defense that is what is hardest on your knees is defense he is vertical jump was about 10 inches shorter than Michael Jordan's that's why Michael Jordan could hang in the air Kobe's was about 6 inches blasting Michael Jordan's if you watch Kobe shots they were quick shots they were not hanging in the air and wait for the defender to come down they were get the ball off before the defender got his hands up there has been nobody that has been able to hang in the air like Michael Jordan since Michael Jordan the way you are describing this is stupid all you have to do is look at the statistics you haven't mentioned the shity average of LeBron James free throw shooting which is a very big part of basketball he was never over 75% from the time he came into the league you would think he would get better but he hasn't it still 75 or below that's a shity free throw average Junior High girls average that
No the game de evolve overall with that phony king for akron ohio talent physically maybe
See you never mentioned defense you never mentioned the difference in defense that Kobe Bryant played and Michael Jordan played compared to LeBron's no defense and the two greatest players of all time were not floppers everybody knows LeBron James is a Flopper I don't even think his own fans can say he's not a Flopper and then I go back to defense again the man had no defense the man rested on defense that's why he had the longevity
😅 and LeBron never played defense so why don't you put that out there why don't you put that LeBron has lasted so long because he only played one end of the Court the reason Michael Jordan did not last that long was his knees and defense wears out your knees a lot more than offense it's no wonder LeBron James has lasted so long he never played defense that's where he rested how many all defensive teams has LeBron James been on
No. There is no GOAT.
KOBE IS THE GOAT
Kobe ain’t top 5
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Larry Bird
5. Magic Johnson
6. Tim Duncan
7. Bill Russell
8. Wilt Chamberlain
9. Kobe Bryant
Get ur ball knowledge up
How people say Kobe is better than MJ when MJ taught kobe how to win. Many people copy just like Mike. 😂😂😂
@@Nokizzy860That's your opinion tho.
Kobe aint. Shot barely 45% from floor. Not efficient enough. His FG% is almost the same as westbrick 😂😂😂😂😂😂
But but but. lol I can’t help but laugh when I see Kobe being put in these conversations. Like bro, there’s 8-10 other names before you get to the Kobe debate.
Lebron outside 3 feet is 37%. Go look up lebrons career clutch fg% 🤢. All this while being a player compared to a freight train that never gets called for charge and gets 2 free shots everytime he flops or misses. Lebron is not top 5 all time
@@biz09ificationThis's a lie.
@simplecleaning4296 I can give you the sources for his stats if you want. His career clutch stats are the most shocking. 20 out of 117 clutch shots made in his career 17.5%. 7 from 57 from 3 point range 12.3%. And those stats are just 5 seconds left in the 4th or overtime with a shot to either win or tie the game. It doesn't even include the multiple premature panick bricks he throws up with 6 or more seconds left. And espn would have you believe he's the most clutch player of all time 🤣. Most nba media skew stats to make him look way better than he actually is. They straight lied about his +/- this last season to spread the narrative that his team is shit without him on the floor. I don't blame people for believing he's better than that he is because that's all they talk about and a quick google search will have you believe that too. But if you actually look into the stats and put them in proper context he for sure is not top 5 all time
@biz09ification Once again, cherry-picking stats is crazy. In the playoffs, LeBron james is actually 7/12 with one second on the clock. Compared to the last 9 MVP winners, it is 6/50 in those same situations. The last 5 seconds of a playoffs game tied or up 3 LeBron James is 6/13, last 10 seconds, 24 seconds 10/25,"Last 30 11/23 Last min 21/45 in the situation. Most game winning shots with 11 by far the most ever in the playoffs, most buzzer beats with 5 by far the most ever, in fact LeBron James has hit over 10% of all of the buzzer beats in the playoffs history. Best in elimination games over 10 games, eliminating opponents he's the best, and also game 7s LeBron James is the best ever. Ever clutch situation LeBron James is one of the best in the playoffs by a mile.