2019 FK8 Civic Type R : 400whp!! EBTec Dyno Record Broken! Stock+Bolt-ons, 93 Octane, Hondata custom
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 16. 11. 2020
- Stock turbo, stock fuel system, PRL High Volume Intake, gold tape wrapped Inlet pipe, PTP Inlet pipe blanket, PTP United Speed Racing turbo blanket, PRL Intercooler, PRL Charge Pipes, United Speed Racing lava wrapped racing down pipe, PTP United Speed Racing down pipe blanket, AWE Tuning Touring edition front pipe and exhaust, custom EBTec Hondata FlashPro tune. 397whp!!! This final snap was the same 3 runs from the last clip from the video with the scale smoothing removed. At 397, there began to be a little bit of knock in 2 of the cylinders. The final tune I'm running is the 391whp/367wtq as this was the sweet spot for power with no knock in any cylinder. This was officially proclaimed by owner and operator of EBTec to be the official record for stock turbo, stock fuel system Type-R on 93 octane for wheel horsepower on their dyno!!!...and they tune a LOT of Hondas. đ Driving impressions and street trial video coming soon. Meanwhile, track prep continues. less than 1 week away!
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And just so you all know...I was standing to the side of the car and holding the camera out for the shot that looks like I'm standing right over the engine during the pull. đ
Sick car and solid numbers!!!
Hell yeah another solid Fk8 in GA đ„đ„ congrats
Thanks man! It feels good. Lol đđ„đš
@@MotoRX1 oh I bet it does hehehe enjoy the heck out of it.I need to get mine tuned soon
I'm hoping to film a driving impressions/street pull vid this weekend. Then track on Monday!
@@MotoRX1 looking forward to it đ„đ„
Hey, good video. A buddy of mine owns a Type-R and showed this to me. I own an Evo but saw your license plate, so we in the same state. Just subscribed!
Hell yeah! Thanks. I tossed a sub back to your channel as well! I'll be searching through your library a bit later. đ
sounds really good nice numbers I had ebtec tune my fk8 R also
Sweet! Yeah, I'm mainly sharing this video to spread word of the great things happening at EBTec. I had been on the fence about the tuning session...so glad I pulled the trigger. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Yea definitely I would definitely recommend ebtec for anyone thatâs looking to get a dyno tune in ga
Subbed for more content!! Thinking of getting one as a daily. Fk8 type r next to my s2k sounds good lol
Thanks! Buddy of mine has an FK8 and an S2K. I'm jealous. But I love my CRX, and I'll have an S2K one day. Lol
More content is coming! Slowly...still figuring out this video editing thing. Lol
@@MotoRX1 wish I kept my b16 crx si đą. Bought an rx8 after it then sold for a mk7.5 gti then built 380whp sti. S2k has been mine for almost 10 years now! Makes around 450whp supercharged(kraftwerks) on 16psi
@@TonyAutoWerks Sounds like a nice lineup. đ I bet 450 in a S2K is wild!
@@MotoRX1 yeah it's sketchy lol. Ap1 life đ
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Semper Fi, I get my Hondata Friday and hope to be making some good power with the bolt ons I have now. Just need downpipe and charge pipes until FBO.
Good luck with gains! đ Rah!
Awesome car bro!!! Iâm the young guy in the keep that was messing around with ya!!!
Dude! I got it on video...I may feature it. Lol Thanks man!
I was watching the footage. I caught the part on film where we were talking, but the camera angle was crappy. I'll see if I can include it. đ It was a fun run!
Sick af I wanted a type r before I got my q
I've been eyeballing the Qs. They look so good...waiting for Nissan to climb out of their funk. Really excited for 400z
I was at Home Depot yesterday picking up a bathroom vanity in my 2019 Type R
so l was parked right at the exit door
Wow the comments l got from customers coming out of the store was amazing! And mostly from the older generation (like me) mine is also black but completely stock.
They say, if you buy a Type-R, you better like attention, and talking about your car. đ„ Love it!
@@MotoRX1
So true! Hey what do you think of a ECU piggy back unit?? Would like around 350ish HP for the track
@@Jack96993 czcams.com/video/TE9D4yBIWw0/video.html This lap of Road Atlanta was running the 343 tune. I was using Hondata basemap tune with mishimoto intake, catless downpipe, front pipe, turbo blanket, and intercooler upgrade. đ€
@@MotoRX1
Your Type R must be a track monster!
Any issues with understeer? I was on Road Atlantic doing a Petit LeMan parade lap in my 78 911SC got it up to 120 on the back straight, have no idea were the pace car went : ) I did a lot of track time with my Porsche Turbo S at Roebling, Barber, CMP & VIR
I haven't tracked my Type R yet as l need to sort out what's required for occasional track use ie brakes, tires & ECU mod
Now that it's up on power, if I give it too much throttle in low speed corners the wheels can break loose and it can start to push. Otherwise, she almost handles like an AWD on the track. Get some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, upgraded pads and front rotors, and replace your brake fluid with Racing Brake Fluid rated 600 or higher... you'll be set to attack the track. The Hondata tune is just icing on the cake. đ
Nice gain Hp and torque! Type R is my dream and hopefully to get one someday!!
I am totally in love with mine! đ€You get yours soooon!
check out the past-gas episode on the type -R .i was sold after that and i haven't regretted it
I will have to check it out. Love Donut Media!
Hey whats up man! I recently moved to Atlanta myself and have been looking for the Type R's haha . Do you go to any meets ?
I can point you the way. đđ The first Sunday of every month is Caffeine & Octane (C&O) at Perimeter Mall in Dunwoody. Have a pretty big group of caRs that get together for that. Follow me on Facebook (Moto RX) and DM me. I can get you plugged in. đ đ
Thanks for the video. Always wanted the type r and about to pull the trigger on a 2021 this weekend. Silly question though: what would the car make with FBOs minus the tune?
I'm not 100% sure actually. I was FBO with basemap tune when I went on the dyno. Plus...306hp stock is at the crank. Maybe somewhere close to 300-315 whp FBO with no tune.
@@MotoRX1 copy that. I'm also reading multiple reviews that the stock numbers from the factory are really underrated. Some of these type Rs are actually making 300 hp to the wheel fresh out the dealership. Insane!
@@tjchawla from what ive seen on mine and my friends is 260whp, 270whp with hondata 93oct basemap and 320whp custom tuned
Verus diffuser, don't ask me how I read that correctly off the vid.
What is the name of that diffuser shown in the very beginning? Thanks.
It is Verus Engineering. đ„đ„
In my top 3 favorite mods.
www.verus-engineering.com/shop/product/a0192a-rear-diffuser-10th-gen-honda-civic-type-r-1194?category=52
I assume that most of the tuning involved adding timing since the stock fuel system is pretty much maxed on the basemaps. How much timing could you add over the basemap and which basemap did you go in with?
I know the tuning is mainly timing and commanding peak boost earlier for the Bosch ECU. I don't know what the timing number was for my tune, unfortunately. But, I was using the 93 octane/intercooler/race downpipe/increased throttle response map at baseline.
hey love the car and just a question, i also have a FBO type r and i got a problem right now, i keep going through spark plugs and the car can barely hold a WOT pull, is it the plugs im getting? or the igntion timing perhaps being off? and what plugs was the car in the video running?
Car has only had stock NGK plugs. Unless you've got some crazy hot tune that would require aftermarket iridium plugs, I would stick with OEM. Did you have it tuned when it was cold? Could be running lean in this hot time. Tuner will want data logs and they can tell you if it is still running the correct AF ratio during power pulls.
@@MotoRX1 I actually ordered ngk plugs Iâm just waiting for them to come, and my car was actually tuned in hot Florida weather, I also sent my tuner data logs just waiting for him to get back to me and Iâm just getting other peoples input. The turbo runs about 26 psi rn so that might be a bit intense, but thanks for your response I appreciate it đđ»
Hey, any time. đ
Good luck with the hunt. Hopefully your issue is easily resolved. I'm curious to hear what you find whenever the tuner gets back with you.
@@Hamster99ful what ended up being your issue?
I own this car now! I KNEW it was modded before lol
đŻ For real?!
There were a few minor cosmetic mods I left on it when I traded, but all the performance adding parts were reverted back to stock. đ
A bit late on the video but I am looking at buying a Type R in the next week. What is the best year to go with as money is not an issue, just want the best year they made them
I am partial to the 2019. They added the volume knob and A/C buttons that make the infotainment more usable, but it was before the added Honda Sensing and piped/fake intake noise added in-cabin. Mine was 2019. đ
I have a 2019 ctr with muffler delete, drop in k&n filter and a custom tune and made 353hp375trq. All that money for bolts on and not much more power than I haveđ€Šđżââïž. But it does sound good when you are telling us about the bolt on goodies.
Guess it depends on your tuner. Mase engineering Jax Florida. Heâs the man. I have a civic ep3 with a k24/20 stock cai, custom exhaust, Hondata made 225hp
Bolt-ons matter when youre going max effort 400+whp
Tune is mod #1
Flex fuel e20 and Race MAF #2 and#3
Downpipe/Front pipe/ FMIC #4 #5 #6
Turbo inlet #7
HPFP and LPFP #8 #9
HP line modified #10
Injectors #11
Full bolt-on E50 stock turbo 450ish whp
Big difference from 350 to 450
Looks like you are maxing out your fuel pump, good luck.
Thanks! Yeah, figure it's only a matter of time...so send it until it goes and then upgrade. đ
hows loud is the inside of the car at 75 MPH? wondering because i have PRL catless downpipe thatim going to install on my 19 type R when it warms up and been looking at the AWE touring but have never found video clips with a catless downpipe
Dude, the volume is not bad at all. Now I will not lie...catless downpipe with the AWE TOURING is AT LEAST 114dB on a sound meter at 50 feet away inside a large open shop at full tilt. You put your foot down and everyone gon hear you rowdy. đ€Ł But the 180 drone canceling tech claim is not BS, it WORKS really well. So below 2500-3000 rpm at half throttle and gingerly driving, she is pleasantly grumbly and deep. Cruising at any speed below 4000rpm if you are at maintenance throttle, not gassing but not slowing, its almost quiet. I love my exhaust setup.....but I may have a change coming. đ€đ€«
@@MotoRX1 thanks man thats what i wanted to hear. Every clip i could find while looking at exhaust has all been catted.
Any time! Anything you ever wanna know, I'm always down to jaw about the car. đ
@@MotoRX1 i have prl catless downpipe with awe exhaust its loud at fuck when u on highway driving im thinkin goin high flow cats
Pissed I got a cvt fk7 sport..... wish it was a regular auto. Idk what performance mods I can even do to this car without it blowing upđ€Šââïž
Not sure what is available for the FK7 Sport in a CVT. But, don't be mad at your now car for not being mod-friendly. Look at it as a way to save money on car parts until you get your tuner dream! đ đ
All pulls were done at 4th gear?
Yes they were. All 4th gear pulls. đ
When you say knock, is that a bad sign for the engine?
It can be if it happens a lot. Knock, or spark knock, pre-ignition, pre-detonation (lots of names for it) is when your fuel system is maxing out and can't provide the fuel for the air and timing. The cylinders lean out (more air than fuel in the mix) and temperatures in the cylinder rise. As they get high enough, the gasoline spraying into the chamber ignites due to just the residual heat in the cylinder...before the spark fires. This causes booms in the cylinder that are out of time. Engine starts fighting itself to run. Bad running situation for the engine.
I see those front honeycombs by the fogs there call cut out. Did you do that? Or did you find ones that are already done?
I bought those actually. Got them here...
racingbees.com/products/2017-honda-civic-fk8-type-r-fog-light-mesh-replacement-covers
@@MotoRX1 that's awesome thanks so much man! I'll be getting my Type R in about a week or to 2018 Aegean blue! So excited!
Hell yeah! You are going to love it!
@@MotoRX1 I test drove a white one and loved it! So I had to make sure I had enough money for it. I also found a good exhaust and intercooler as well check it out its at 27won.com best flowing highest hp power exhaust and drown canceling and there intercooler is nice too check it out
@@MotoRX1 once I get her I will have to show you it and start on my build the 27won products look really good as well the price too. I hope to have the same hp or close to it and safely drive and enjoy it! I'm so ready for it!
I dont own a ctr but I'm thinking about it. Why does everyone with a FK8 CTR have PRL everything?
Quality parts, competitive pricing, phenomenal customer service. I have never had a problem with or regretted buying a PRL part. Plus, made in USA. No JDM tax or wait time. đ
Is it stock cluth? You have any problem slip or something like that?
Yes, stock clutch. And no, no clutch slipping issues. đ
Just can't be too aggressive on the throttle or the tires get away from you. đđ„
Ahh alright, thanks mate stay safe on the road, iâll be waiting for other vids about your ctr love the build đ€đŒ
How much was the tune bro ?
If you want an exact number, you need to get up with James Emmino at EBTec. ebtec-corporateoffice.business.site/#details
But I will approximate... appearing in person for the dyno tune, less than I paid for the Hondata FlashPro. đ
Were they able to give you a full tune within the 3 hours
Closer to 4 hours, but yes. đ
How much did everything come out to bro like an estimate?
You mean everything I've done to the car everything? Or the tune?
@@MotoRX1 everything in total to make 400whp
For this setup to make 400whp... keeping in mind I installed all the parts myself, plus custom tune... about $5K. đ€đđđ„đ„đ„đ„
My brothers r made 390 wheel. FBO n pump
Seems to be the magic numbers... 390-400. That's awesome! đ
I wonder what i can make with mine i habe same setup but running e30
I think the guys I know running FBO, E, and meth are around 440-450. Maybe 425-430?
@@MotoRX1 ohh thts nice numbers im just flex fuel kit no meth thts to much lol
Yeah, I don't have any plans to modify the fuel system. đ
Jeremy Rosario did 400 on 93 with prl intake, prl intercooler and a downpipe may 15 2020 in Florida. 389.66 torque and 400.80 hp.
Removing smoothing doesnât do much to numbers unless the power is erratic.
Show uncorrected values. Thatâs where the truth is.
No one and I mean no one using uncorrected numbers on a dynojet can hit 400 on 93 with bolt ons only stock turbo.
Yeah 400whp is a tough one to belive. I installed my XDi pump finally and was tuned yesterday. With my mods:
PRL front pipe
PRL catless Downpipe
PRL high volume intake
PRL thermal coated inlet pipe
PRL Intercooler
PRL charge Pipes
Hondata
Stock turbo
Stock exhaust
93 octane
Best numbers were 390.44 whp 394.66 tq
There was an error code (which he disabled) that popped up with the MAF. I also didn't drill that high pressure line out because, and I admit, I got lazy and it looked like a pain in the ass to take that line out. Lol. But we're assuming that since it is the stock line going in a bigger pump, it could be the reason why after 5600 RPM, the graph gets jumpy. Like it is fighting for that extra fuel or something.
Soooo now I ordered the race MAF from PRL, and when his mechanic guy comes back home, he'll take it out and drill that line for me, then we'll see if we can break 400whp on 93.
I would be interested to hear the outcome! đ„ Keep me updated. đ
@@MotoRX1 Sure will. I didn't think my PRL street MAF was a problem with full bolt ons. But after some reading about MAFs, I can see why. I also figured with the pump upgrade, even on 93, I'd be able to make 400whp or slightly above.
I just wanted to keep the build simple and just get 93. I know the limitations, but I don't feel like mixing gas at pumps. Lol. I have access to all grades of fuel where I go, but just prefer 93 đ€·ââïžHe has other Type R's on his dyno with a few bolt ons and e30 breaking 400whp. Less mods than me, but that flex fuel is helping them a lot. One car made 434whp less than a week ago on his dyno. I'm still going to atick with 93 though.
Big MAF, big power on 93, you need the P600. Only issue then is the fuel pump. 400hp on stock fuel/turbo really taxes the fuel delivery system. So even if you want to "not" upgrade fuel, you still have to upgrade fuel. đ€ đ
Well, I have the XDi high pressure fuel pump, so I'm not on the stock fuel pump. If that's what you meant by stock fuel. I'm definitely not maxing out yet on fuel.
This was in cold weather I'm assuming
đ It was pretty chilly that day. A 2020 with slightly less mods on a much colder day this week eked out 4 more horses đ€Łđ€Ł. 401. Tuner messaged me and informed me I had been dethroned. I had my 15 minutes. Lol. I be back in February with a new exhaust. đ„
It was very cold
I feel like a lot of people build these cars to be dyno queens then just sell them
Agree with this, or show queens. Drive mine daily, drive it on the track, drive it in the mountains...just drive it! Like it was made to do. đ€
@@MotoRX1 Good to know, I drive mine a lot too!
Mine is a 19 with 31k on it!
@@2141mario I'm right at 25k myself!
@@MotoRX1 Right here with you guys at 37k haha.
Exhaust?
USR catless downpipe, AWE Touring Edition exhaust (including front pipe).
Fk8 needs some serious cooling mods otherwise all these power only add further woes
Absolutely! I have some ideas in mind for that when it's time. đ
@@MotoRX1 1 track day and I was sick of the overheating issue. oil cooler, intercooler, wrapping all the pipes, upgrading to js racing front grill and cooling bonnet, and last but not the least deleting the AC.
Deleting the A/C is next level! đ„
I have blankets on inlet, turbo, and down pipes and open front grilles. Looking at a Koyo radiator and Acuity reverse flow hoses next. đ
Good numbers although it clearly shows max power not whp
It was measured at the wheels. đ
@@MotoRX1 why not show transmission loss and flywheel hp figures too?
@@jeryjohn I did not get a baseline dyno at full stock. Only way to calculate drive train loss is to compare a stock whp pull to stock bhp (at the crank). My baseline dyno pull was with all the aftermarket parts and Hondata base map tune. The power gain was measuring custom tune vs out-of-the-box tune. đ
@@MotoRX1 drivetrain losses are calculated by letting the car rev down in neutral it has nothing to do with the baseline run, sorry i think you misunderstood my question
Oh, my bad. I'm a mechanic. I know what the dyno is for...but I really don't know anything about them or how to adjust tune settings. I was uploading the provided base maps with the Hondata on my own, but I paid a shop for the hot tune. đ
Its bid said many times the fuel system will not let you go safely over 400hp unless you add meth injection to it or use the hondata fuel upgrade, so that tune with oem fuel system is not all that safe i wood say safe is 360 or to 375 tops for me
You are correct. In the description I mention that at the 397hp mark we got knock and the car pulled timing out of two cylinders. We backed off and I left the dyno with the 391/367 graph. That was peak power level with optimal A/F ratios and a clean pull with no knock. đ
Idk I am running a custom tune from redstar motoring stock turbo and fuel system E25 423whp. Have zero knocking issues or fueling issues.
@@joeautomotive8582 Absolutely! That Flex Fuel makes a difference. I'm not running any ethanol...just 93 octane pump gas. If I added the PRL flex fuel kit and re-tuned I could get more out of it. đ
@@MotoRX1 definitely
@@MotoRX1 wished i could get E85 around me. would have to drive 80 miles just for it so no flex fuel kit for me :(
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@@MotoRX1 from the đŹđ§đ€ same in GB
type R's killing Golf R's đ đȘđȘ
Always glad to hear that Type-Rs are out there killing the competition, worldwide! đ€ Track season is about to start back up in 1 WEEK! I'm hunting Focus RSs. đ€Ł
@@MotoRX1 good luck in track season dude Japanese engineering always wins đ
@@cryptobond0079 This was from the end of last season... czcams.com/video/laWpbNVJj9A/video.html
Me and this guy are gonna be going at it again at Atlanta Motorsports Park in 2 weeks. Swing back by...lots of new videos coming! đ„
Official world record? Bahaha
Lol. No...no world record here. It was a record breaker for the dyno tuning shop I was at. >> E.B.Tec is the premier Honda tuner in the Atlanta area. They tune LOTS of Hondas and have tuned quite a few Type-Rs. For THEIR dyno....for a stock fuel system, stock turbo FK8... mine has made the highest horsepower before introducing knock at the top of the fuel system.
A new 28k GTI will be right there next to you with just a damn tune.
Why hondas need to upgrade all kind of stuff to get an extra 80hp????
I'm a big fan of the Golf platform. Nearly bought a GTI a couple of times.
Excited to see the next Golf R. đ
10k kswap integra or civic will smoke that 28k gti too, you're just missing the point..
@@sanhson108 u are out of your damn mind if you burn 10k on a engine swap for a car worth 5kđđđ
@@Mk5forLife u r out of damn mind if u think the car is actually worth 5k, 10k is more like the car n the kswap, turbo n tune. But ur still missing the point. So theres no point explaining
Sure, lol
Go smoke some mustangs and camaros from a roll lol
All day! Hell yeah.
Is it just me or do these new civics sound like ass
Yes. đ€Ł There is no exhaust that sounds "good". Lol
Sick car and solid numbers!!!
Thanks! As you can hear, I was excited. đ
Almost at 9!