Full 3D Character Workflow Explained - Sculpting, Retopo & Textures
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- čas přidán 25. 11. 2018
- In this video tutorial, we cover all the steps from start to finish when it comes to making a CG character for film and games. We cover concept sculpting, retopology, uvs and texture painting in Substance Painter.
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I am watching from the future and.... you can paint across Udims in Substance Painter!!!! :D :D :D
what is Udims?
@@Neilien Udims are like layers for UV's, except they are next to each other instead of stacked.
usually, you are only able to texture within one UV block right? with Udims you can spread it over multiple blocks, which was always fine for separate meshes and materials but now you can smoothly paint from one Udim to the next in the viewport like some mad digital painting genie
Me too brada
In which version?
I am from even further in the future and Adobe has decided that users should be so complacent, so removed painting across UDIMs... also AI rules over the world, Elon Musk has gone bonkers and 99% of 3D artist only do furry stuff
I really appreciate how you guys talk about realistic approaches to the process in actual production. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. It's super helpful and appreciated.
Thank you guys for all the work you put into these vids! Honestly you guys are the only solid source on CZcams that answers all of these really specific questions for us beginners! Just bought a bunch of your premium tutorials, keep up the great work!
Needed something like this. Cheers guys.
My Monday are much better with every flipped normals video on my morning. Thank you for the job your are putting into.
#BackToTheGrass
Thank you so much for this series, it's so helpful and clear! The discussions are hilarious and it makes everything much less daunting!
Thank you for such an in depth process video. I'm always curious about pipelines, since it seems like everyone has their own variation of the same thing.
Hi, I saw few of your tutorials since last couple of weeks and I must say that you guys are savior, learned a lot from you guys, specially the way you guys discuss that give loads of knowledge , Thank you so much sir.
Found you guys channel recently, love it btw and really enjoy listening to your podcasts when sculpting, etc. Thanks for all the advice and work you guys do!
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it :)
Incredible! This helps connect the dots to appreciate what people go through in the actual flow to bring out beautiful images on the big screen! It also gives a view into the characters' life cycle before it matures to act out in a scene!!!!
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it Alkesh :)
that is the best intro i have ever seen, thank you.
Thank you Alexander!
You guys are great to watch and hear. I bought 2 tutorials a couple days ago. I feel like I grasp more knowledge from you two then I did in school 🤦🏾♂️🤙🏾
Fantastic! That makes us very happy
this porjection step is what I nearly missed so i am really greatfull for you guys explaining the process. I am still pretty new to sculpting in zbrush but after doing the manual retoplogisng in maya for this current project im doing (which has some interesting anatomy). then I was about to go into zbrush and try and match the detailing I already did, but i had this red warning in my head as I was thinking that it was surely not the way to approach it. so I am glad to know that you just need to project the sculpt onto the low top mesh and that I didn't waste any extra time on this :)
Thanks for that retopo landmark loops tip, I more or less do that as I go or do it part by part on broken up models, but doing a pass on all major feature loops before filling anything else in is something I should try on my next full body character.
definitely interested in hearing more about the problems with smoothed uvs and the others mentioned in the displacement map section
This is the video I've been trying to find
I can look up how to do any individual part, I wan't to know the process.
Thank you.I did'nt know why I didn't think to just project the displacement map in ZBrush
Thank you for your videos, its good to hear it from people who know what they're talking about.
Thank you for another great video :) I'd be very interested to see how you guys go about detailing human characters! With Creatures you have so much creative freedom when working on details but humans (especially young people) have very smooth skin. I really struggle with that aspect once i am done getting the proportions and muscles right. I would love a video elaborating how to properly add pores, wrinkles, veines and the like.
Thank you for making this video. You help me a lot of understanding the workflow of a character .
I have been looking for this kind of video for a long time. Very big help for beginners like me!
Thank you guys this really clarified some things about character workflow, especially the retopo part.I just picked up your Vray Tutorial, but now I need to get these premium character tutorials so Merry Christmas. Oh please post the Substance Tutorial asap that is a much needed tool as they have us using Mudbox in class...death to Mudbox
Thank you so much, this is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Love ur videos.
I am so glad that you guys mentioned blender as a great tool for modelling and retopology!... I have learned a lot in this video especially the blocking of retopology!
Its really a fantastic tool!
Awesome as always! Big thanks guys!!!! ❤️💜♥️
Thank you so much for this video. There is so much to learn here. 😄
You guys have really helped my workflow a a lot! Thanks for all the information.
thank you! i'm just starting out and this video was super helpful!
I am looking forward to seeing this Painter tutorial... I still need to figure out how to view displacement maps.
Cool! Thank you for tutorial ;) really professional!
Já vou dar like antes de assistir só pela iniciativa de compartilhar esse assunto conosco!!!
Every tutorial on this channel are awesome.
Thank you!
Thank you so much guys! This video answered many questions for me. One thing I'm not sure about yet is breaking symmetry on the character - like when moving facial features around a bit and all that... Where would that step happen in the pipeline?
You guys are awesome. Thanks for making this video
Very informative, you guys are awesome!
Fantastic info, Thank you.
I want to know the folder arrangement/organization system for big projects. Great video by the way.
Really helpful! Thank you!
Very helpful. Hope to see a full character pipeline from scratches to final render shot just like Hollywood movies
Nice overview, thanks for sharing guys. Regarding Maya's performance when doing retop, it's worth coming out of quad draw every once in a while and clearing your history - it really speeds things up.
Thanks! And yes - that's essential. Otherwise it slows down a lot and makes Maya unstable.
Bless you guys!
I just spend the day retopologizing at work a sculpt I also did xD Displace and normals from zbrush work great so time for some substance painter!!! So kind of good timing x)
Thanks for sharing this bro it's very explanatory
Helped a lot thanks :)
Thank you so much
This video is worth its weight in gold! Thanks a lot for sharing this info. I’ve been wanting to know this process since I started 3D art in 2017... When you are working on the low poly retopo, do you subdivide/smooth to get the more refined, higher poly version, or is that just adding more polys manually?
This is wonderful!
Helpful Exclusive Tutorials
How to Retop a Full Character
flippednormals.com/downloads/how-to-retopologize-a-full-character/
UV Mapping Characters
flippednormals.com/downloads/uv-mapping-characters-25-off/
Concept Sculpting for Film & Games
flippednormals.com/downloads/concept-sculpting-for-film-and-games/
Bless this channel
Bless you
Cheers! Great video guys. explaining whole process beautifully. At one point I'm lost though. You said and I know that Substance Painter doesn't support multiple UV maps on single model. That's why I always use a single UV map or multiple parts for single model. But in this video you guys create multiple UV maps and import it on Painter and Painter behaves like it's a single UV map. So is there an additional step I'm not aware of or what?
Great video. Thanks for sharing :)
Cheers!
Hi my teachers i just want to say i love you
Thanks for your help and i have to tell us, you are very nice people and very clear !! I hope you continue ever an ever.. Super Kanal !!!!
Great. Its very helpfull
17:15 retopo
Wow nice i was looking right something similar
Thank you about this
thanku so much sir .
thanks for this video, good and neccesary informations to know!
Glad it was helpful!
i um was not aware - i retoppod after I finished the final model but it worked out fine thankfully 😅
I just found a golden channel
Good video,,
the world of 3d is fascinating, sorry for my english ,,, greetings
That's exactly what I was looking for to learn the pipeline. I'm a 2D artist who just started learning 3D and I have troubles with understanding the workflow.
Guys, love you so much! Just switched from 2d to 3d and your videos are so fcking usefull. Big thanks to you!
Thank you so much Paul!
How detailed should the character be before you bring the retopo character into the substance painter? I ask because it looks pretty hi-res in painter in terms of the details. Btw, thank you for this helpful and informative tutorial.
Amazing video. Ive been looking for a more structured workflow. Do you have any suggestions for a more cost effective alternative to sub paint?
Hey guys!
First of all, I'd like to tell you that your tutorials are by far my favorites one (and I've seen a lot of them). The fact that you are two to comment makes the video twice as interesting.
Otherwise I have two small questions about the workfow in studios.
I often see in tutorials for software like Maya, people who fully modelize characters without using zbrush. Is this practice still common? Is there really an interest to sculpt characters or animals whitout zbrush? I have the feeling that it's much slower and outdated but I may be wrong.
I also saw recently in one of your tutorials that you recommend to prepare the base mesh in a software like Modo to get real units and proportions. Is it a recommendation or is it the classic workflow of studios / professional world? Because in almost all modeling videos on zbrush I see artists starting with a simple sphere or zsphere.
Anyway thank you for your free tutorials because it's also a lot of work ;)
Hey, I noticed if you do it right, zremeshing at half a few times gives you clean topo.
Just a thought.
just one question, if im working on hardsurface model with some smaller surface details , can the displacement project those details onto a low poly version accurately? or do i need to retopo those small details roughly?
Great Video! So when you are doing a hero character for film, you paint the low poly retopo mesh? What if you do a high end detailed character like Godzilla, i think then its necessary to see how the displacement map deforms the mesh to paint all the little details, right?
3 Years into the future Substance painter supports UDIMS, great video guys keep em coming.
Fantastic. Every video I get more inspired. My main goal is modeling/sculpting, but everything looks great to be done makes me want to inject knowledge with a syringe. A question, could one start the modeling in Maya/Max and then export to ZBrush?
Yes, absolutely!
You could say for example, model your base mesh in Maya and then export it as an OBJ into ZBrush so you can start sculpting on it. The reason many artists prefer to start with Zbrush is because it allows for a more organic creativity right at the start as the character is being designed - Then worry about the technicalities/retopo later.
Hi guys I follow you since long ago and appreciate a lot your tuts, I keep coming back to this one, so I’m actually kind of watching it from the future even though I watched it in the past ;) any update on substance / Udims pls?. Thnx so much in advance.
is concept sculpting better than sketching/drawing vice versa? just wondering
Great videos guys! a question i have about the high poly, so you don't need to have things like the eyes, teeth, gums, tounge, maybe even eyesbrows modeled, those can be done in the lower poly. But in that case there wouldn't be any details that are tramsfered to them when baking right? just the rest of the body would have that?
I watched the video a few times! Really enjoyed the flow! I have some basic questions: If I understood the process - 1. sculpt to your heart's content (almost, as I learned in your projection video!); 2. export to, say Maya and re-topo; 3. make UV Udims; 4. Export re-topo'ed geo in zBrush; 5. sub-divide to ...say...a couple of millions of poly to do projection; 6. generate maps to be used in, say substance painter (I hear you on Udims). Now my questions: (a) although UVs where done in Maya at the lowest sub division level, right after retopo was done, artist doesn't need to do UVs again after subdivision/re-projection in zBrush, right? (b) If I heard it correctly, retopo'ed version will be used by riggers and animators to deform. Is that re-topo'ed lowest level, or retopo'ed after subdividing in zBrush and projecting all details back on it? I am guessing the former...but would love to hear the confirmation from the pros! If that is the case, does sub-divided /re-projected geo play any role in animation, or its life ends after maps were generated? I wonder though, when the camera is close to the face, and animator wants to use the clusters to move vertices to create expressions, will rigging on low poly geo transfer well on the detailed character? Would love to see some demo of such character acting someday! Anyways...thanks a lot for all your work!
Hi Alkesh!
A: Correct - the UVs will follow the ZBrush model and remain when you subdivide. If the reprojection is too big of a shape change, you might want to do a quick unfold after reproj though.
B: Yes - the retopoed version is the one used by riggers and animation. The riggers sometimes make their own version which is *even* lower, though. Sometimes you'd use a render mesh which is level 2 subd from ZBrush.
Hi! Thank you for explaining all the process, you were perfectly clear. I have a question: at 19'13" we can see 5 edged polygons, I thought it was a very bad thing to do. Did you replaced them by 4 edged polygons or is it not that bad?
A bit late but since they haven't answered: Yes, they (The N-gons) are very bad. They mess with the loops of your topology.
I assume they either fixed it off camera or were using a bad/hastily made mesh to show overall process.
Hi guys, could you potentially cover smaller details like texturing the eyes and teeth and switching between them and the main mesh on painter? It's just a small part of the process I'd like to understand better. Thanks.
It's just a separate subtool
cool retopo is my nemesis
If you delete history when re-topoing with quad draw it will fix the lag temporarily until you need to delete history again.
It would be nice digging deeper and learn how to deal with different parts of the face, like eyes or inside mouth. And maybe tips or advise dealing with blendshapes? They should be treated all as different objects cooked separatedly, but is there any proper way of not making the work many times for small changes?
Hello! At time mark 37:39, you start to talk about production discussion to cover what comes before and after, lighting etc. have you done that yet? I recently began looking at some videos on peach fuzz creation and rendering. Would be good to hear from you where that comes in the pipeline for modeling and animation. Thanks!
Hey guys, love your channel! I was just wondering if your paid tutorials are beginner friendly and easy to follow along (for example not using hotkeys without telling which tool that is and where it can be found, etc.) ?
It depends on the tutorial. Check the description box on the right side of the product. It will state beginner, intermediate or advanced level
Great video! Was wondering if you guys will ever do a grooming video for hair. Maybe an intro video to something like X-Gen
We will do exactly that! :) Very much on our list.
@@FlippedNormals I second this request. And teeth/mouth insides for animating would be fantastic
Can you do one on how to create characters for meta verse and if there are any differences in the approach?
Is it common to mirror for example the hands on the uv map to save space and give the face for example more uv space? Im talking about game design.
Funny, my rig teacher in school prefer bent fingers for rigging, he says that it makes it easier to get the rig orientation for the bones
Hello guys, nice tutorials all over your channel , i'm kinda new to it so , wow . I have a question that if you answer it will really save me from a stroke. What if you want to pose your game-ready character ? Is this something you do before the retopo process ( cuz i understand that this is going to be a pain in the ... in the afterwards process) , or is it something that you do after you have ended the symmetry - friendly whole process ( from modeling to texturing), by rigging it etc ? This is also a very time consuming process. I mean normally in a studio you would not do the pose , right ? It's only all about correct topo uvs and stuff , correct ? But if you want to show your work in a portfolio or something , I've seen that posing is an extra to have. So what is the correct - usual - less time consuming way to do it ? I haven't seen all your videos so i don't know if you have mention it anywhere, if so the link would also be appreciated. Cheers
36:11 that’s me face when I first see the light after a 12h game of thrones marathon
That was my face after season 8
Definitely from future here!
I keep hearing Lorax instead of low res, jk i really love the work you are doing right here
guys I love your videos, I have a question is really difficult to find a proper workflow for fur and hair, I mean you can find a lot of tutorials of how to make fur and Hair and that's not the real problem BUT there's almost no information about the proper placement in a production for fur and hair, for exmaple in maya if you make the fur in the hero character file, when you reference such character it looses the fur... the workflow I am doing right now is making the fur and hair in the render scene and export the ptex and groom information in case I need fur or hair in other render scenes, I find this wrong but is the only way I have found. thank you.
The performance issue in maya is related to the history, script delete history and switch back to retopo tool and bob is your uncle . You can try to disable the history but I ran into some issues doing that.
This is Jenn. Where do I order ur tutorials? You guys are absolutely just amazing!!
Hi Jenn! You can find them here :)
flippednormals.com/creator/flippednormals/
Actually wrap is out for zbrush, and the annual license is 50% off just today ! Go get it guys :D
Where is the wrap feature in zbrush? Is there a tutorial out?
Do you have a text version of the workflow available? For example Concept sculpt > retopologise etc and whether to do high res or low res sculpt first?
The projection step - is there a difference between importing the hi-rez into 3DSmax and then exporting it for baking in painter vs importing the lorez into Zbrush for projection and then exporting it to painter? Thank you
Thanks for the video! ~~~ Only I don't get it, In the end that ugly looking mesh after retopo is going to be the final character!? And that beautiful final sculpt, it's not going to look like that!?
Thanks my life Makers...
I don't really understand much of the differences between painter and mari. What I got from it is that if painter added udim support and supported bigger maps, it would be pretty much interchangeable with mari, with the added benefit of having smart materials (which you can make yourself using substance designer) and some other features that make your life easier when texturing. Is that a good explanation or is this an oversimplification? I've wanted to try a film pipeline for some time because you can get much more detail and realism out of it, but I don't really get the difference to a gaming pipeline after the retopo and uv stage of things and I was afraid I couldn't get good results using painter for this kind of work.
Painter is only for texturing whereas Mari is a full 3d suite like Autodesk stuff, Blender, etc. I believe it also has PTEX which is a texturing that doesnt need uv's that Disney created to speed up character creation. Probably has some more stuff as well. I only have experience with Blender when it comes to 3d suites but I read into Mari a little.