Akai AP-D33 direct drive turntable speed changing randomly

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  • čas přidán 31. 07. 2021
  • A direct drive turntable that is drifting in speed randomly
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  • @SDS-1
    @SDS-1 Před 2 lety +13

    Damn devil trying to do a voiceover

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety +11

      😁 making sure you are paying attention.

    • @SDS-1
      @SDS-1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@12voltvids lolol 😂

    • @mryamaha100
      @mryamaha100 Před 2 lety

      @@12voltvids i heard it

    • @darinb.3273
      @darinb.3273 Před 2 lety +1

      Too funny the 1st moment I heard it I was like did I hear what I thought I heard went back and sure enough I did LOL Dave reversed the audio with certain things he said LOL.

    • @andynoon2584
      @andynoon2584 Před 2 lety

      @@darinb.3273 I thought that CZcams was playing up when I heard Dave speaking backwards.

  • @ksm8997
    @ksm8997 Před 2 lety

    Yes! I was paying attention! And congrats on getting your Play Button.

  • @Thanson199415
    @Thanson199415 Před 2 lety +1

    1st like and comment / luv ur content!

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 2 lety

    I would have went for the speed control and those swtiches first - out of my experience with Technics 1200MKII drifting over the years - have to recalibrate the pitch slider - I know it's not the same turntable - but similar problem - cheers sir - good fix !

  • @Godzilla941
    @Godzilla941 Před 2 lety +2

    Marcon capacitors. Oh joy. I have a bunch of those in my capacitor junk box from an IBM PC power supply and for giggles I tried reforming them (at microamps) and as they got close to their rated voltage they all cascaded to hard short circuit. They don't like sitting unused for 25 years. :)

  • @TurntableGuy
    @TurntableGuy Před 2 lety

    Had the same table in for repair once. Changed out all those Sanyo caps. The main issue was the .47uf cap and a couple resistors in the speed circuit plus a dirty speed switch and of course, the pitch pot.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety

      Those Santo solid caps were problematic on Sony betamax back in the day. When i worked for Sony I changed out every Santo solid cap for another brand of tantalum. Not all would go bad but they failed in high enough numbers that they were changed. It was an assembly fault that caused the failure. Bend the leads and they break internal.

  • @edwintech1277
    @edwintech1277 Před 2 lety

    Good work sir. Keep sharing 👍

  • @stevenclarke5606
    @stevenclarke5606 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi Dave, I have the exact same turntable, I got it off eBay a couple of years ago , for £17 without a cartridge and it was running slow and the pitch control wasn’t able to provide enough adjustment . I found a CZcams video on it and after adjusting the two pots I got it working replaced the cartridge and it’s been working fine ever since, really great turntable.
    Were you trying to find the hidden message by spinning the vinyl backwards?

  • @dalemettee1147
    @dalemettee1147 Před 2 lety

    Dave have you been testing us with the over dub's, playing them backwards. OK, you got me. haha

  • @preston963
    @preston963 Před 2 lety

    Hi, Dave, I did own the very same model from new till my "divorce" & it got tarnished contacts on the speed switch also, but the thing I hated most was those style speed trimmer pots on the board they were common for the same problem & as I'm sure your aware many manufacturers of the day used them they were horrible.

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 2 lety +1

    @10:00 - easter egg - stepping into the black lodge in Twin Peaks

  • @Sctronic209
    @Sctronic209 Před 2 lety +2

    The speed of your voice was changing goes right along with the turntable problems.

  • @gamebay100
    @gamebay100 Před 2 lety

    Where could I buy a meter like that? I am working on a Denon DP-33F right now and I think it might have bad capacitors. I guess with a meter like that one you don't need to desolder the caps from the board?

  • @prakashm1468
    @prakashm1468 Před 2 lety

    Wow!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv Před 2 lety

    Yep switches and pots/presets are a pain in the arse!.
    The rivits at the end of the pot track are a problem with vibration.
    I have a dislike of old wire wrap pins, i solder the top few turns for stability.

    • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
      @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 2 lety +1

      I've never had an issue with the wire wraps but I do give a little weld of solder as well.

    • @zx8401ztv
      @zx8401ztv Před 2 lety

      @@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Don't get me wrong, new wirewraps are great, but over the years damp gets in to them and even though they are fully wrapped with wire i've have had problems with the connection.
      But some units never fail.
      Bad solder joints on components are far more unreliable.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 Před 2 lety

    Hmmm. I think the MOSFET gate on the digital barn was left open, and the eCows got out and did what cows do best - making electronic cowpats!

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

    Did you reverse the audio at 10:05 on purpose?

  • @GerardPinzone
    @GerardPinzone Před 2 lety +1

    I played the video in reverse. He said, " I buried Paul."

  • @danmackintosh6325
    @danmackintosh6325 Před 2 lety

    Think your speed (and direction) were drifting a little around 9:54 as well Dave! Was it an editing faux pas or a rock music "play it backwards" subliminal message though? lol (And do I now have to press the audio track onto vinyl and ruin a stylus running it backwards for the message to come through? Because YT don't support reverse play to my knowledge)

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 Před 2 lety

      OK I'm up to 13:56 so far & it's pretty evident it's no slip of the mouse in post! Got me wondering now, might have to "reverse engineer" the audio later. Noticed some video strangeness also, but not tied to every audio flip.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 Před 2 lety

      @@danmackintosh6325 There are turntables out there that can reverse the motor direction and play backwards natively with a special stylus and cartridge

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 Před 2 lety

      @@rawr51919 I don't doubt it, but your average rocker/metalhead wouldn't have had such kit back in the day (That was the reference I was making). Now you've piqued my interest though, could you suggest a TT model to look up and see what's going on with them?

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 Před 2 lety

      @@danmackintosh6325 Not sure what models do that exactly either but I know they're out there. There's at least one CZcams vid that shows one in action to play a backmasked section of vinyl the right direction

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 Před 2 lety

      @@danmackintosh6325 If it helps try looking in the direction of an Audio Technica AT-PL120, might have such a reverse playback feature

  • @marka1986
    @marka1986 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonder if CZcams would give you a copyright strike if you played music backwards

  • @b.powell3480
    @b.powell3480 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi Dave, great job ! But what's up with the backwards vocals!! Hard to understand ! Sounds like Russian!

  • @richysradioroom
    @richysradioroom Před 2 lety

    👍

  • @rogertyler3237
    @rogertyler3237 Před 2 lety

    For All The Years I've Been Fixing
    Small Electronics I Never Seen Those
    Blue Capaciters Leak.

  • @incompletefool9513
    @incompletefool9513 Před 2 lety

    9:14 Sounds like the Klein Tools scissors hit the deck.

  • @mrfrog8502
    @mrfrog8502 Před 2 lety

    4:50 It's a two phase motor not three phase. Motor block has 2 coils, 2 hall sensors and phase feedback coil.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety

      You sure about that. All the DD table motor schematics i have looked at they are 3 phase drive.

  • @keithcoltron3171
    @keithcoltron3171 Před 2 lety

    Sounds like you're voice-over is going backwards?

  • @groovejet33
    @groovejet33 Před 2 lety

    "Meeeeeooooooooowww!"

  • @MikeDS49
    @MikeDS49 Před 2 lety

    4:29 I think it was the spider's fault.

  • @mdzacharias
    @mdzacharias Před 2 lety

    The overdub audio is backwards.

  • @walle637
    @walle637 Před 2 lety

    All the caps are OK, ay? Are you paying attention? …Is, uh, considered to be a good value, and this one here is .9, so that one’s looking OK.

  • @ntsrvr
    @ntsrvr Před 2 lety

    I buried Paul.

  • @sergeaudenaert
    @sergeaudenaert Před 2 lety

    9:56 onward :-)

  • @alcoholisfreedrink
    @alcoholisfreedrink Před 2 lety

    I have Aiwa cassette deck that changes speed randomly. This motor is a rather weird one. It has a transistor, couple of resistors and a trimmer pot for the speed adjustment. This is not very stable.

    • @darinb.3273
      @darinb.3273 Před 2 lety

      Check the resistance write it down shoot it with some contact cleaner and set it to the resistance you measured, at least it should be stable after cleaning it of course if the rivets aren't bad it should be anyway. It appears you have one of the better motors (PG feed back) I would check the solder joints as well if the circuit is not damaged you should be able to make the motor rock steady in its speed again.

    • @alcoholisfreedrink
      @alcoholisfreedrink Před 2 lety

      @@darinb.3273 i actually replaced the trimmer pot with a brand new one. Still doing this. And this motor has no feedback at all.

    • @darinb.3273
      @darinb.3273 Před 2 lety

      @@alcoholisfreedrink It does have something to give a tach signal to the control circuit it MUST know that in order to regulate the speed. That makes the need for more trouble shooting. At this point I wonder if you may have a bad cap or perhaps a shorted or open resistor, it may even be a partly shorted drive transistor (leaky) it could be something in the mechanism that needs lubrication too, those motors do have torque ranges if it is excessive it could stall the motor or in some cases depending on the speed circuit cause full power to go to the motor in order to compensate for the additional load (at which point) the circuit is now sensing overspeed and it becomes a vicious rapid cycle. Another possibility is the commentator is dirty from years of use. Most of those motors can be taken apart easily and they can be inspected for pitting on the commentator and for worn brushes. EXERCISE extreme caution when taking it apart the brushes are very easy to damage they are thin and fragile so you've been warned. You should be able to monitor the motor without load and tell if it runs smoothly (not jerking or jumping in your hand) if it is that would be a very good indicator the brushes are not supplying power to one of the coils (typically 3) that will cause rapid flutter as the motor runs too.

    • @alcoholisfreedrink
      @alcoholisfreedrink Před 2 lety

      @@darinb.3273 i have seen the inside of the exact motor and there was no feedback circuit. When the deck has been playing for some time it goes a bit fast

    • @alcoholisfreedrink
      @alcoholisfreedrink Před 2 lety

      @@darinb.3273 maybe someone has put there an non original motor

  • @PoppinWheeliez
    @PoppinWheeliez Před 2 lety +2

    Vinyl is the best. Way better then CDs. Thats what the devil was saying.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety +2

      Sure if you like 45db signal to noise. I'll take my 100db signal to noise and dynamic range any day over 2 tracks of am radio.

    • @PoppinWheeliez
      @PoppinWheeliez Před 2 lety

      Lol...I knew id get you..

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety +3

      @@PoppinWheeliez
      Vinyl is fine for stuff recorded before digital but not for modern recordings.

    • @PoppinWheeliez
      @PoppinWheeliez Před 2 lety

      @@12voltvids vids are great lately. Lots and lots of variety.

    • @darinb.3273
      @darinb.3273 Před 2 lety

      @@12voltvids Indeed I learned a little bit about how vinyl is recorded really quiet parts the audio is raised slightly to go over the noise floor and louder portions reduced somewhat to stay within the limits of the vinyl itself, which is absolutely unnecessary with digital. Vinyl purists I don't think realize that, but hey to each his own right?

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot Před 2 lety

    The Backwards Talk..10:08..lol

  • @solarr2
    @solarr2 Před 2 lety

    😏😏🇵🇱😏👍👍

  • @fwgmills
    @fwgmills Před 2 lety

    Wuuhl dess neiif de Freddy is the devil!

  • @YellowJello57
    @YellowJello57 Před 2 lety

    Backmasking is a cheap way to elicit more comments