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Free flight rubber powered plane | Widgeon full build process

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  • čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
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    Building a classic model airplane free flight and rubber powered, from an old design from FROG, the WIDGEON is a nice a small first experience to anyone starting on the hobby, it uses balsa wood and tissue covering as the original model from 1954, these models are hard or impossible to find as a kit nowadays, that's why we are working on bringing this experience back, to the young and adult and anyone in between who want to start the hobby with this vintage but nice model. Most of the construction techniques are still the same and even the materials, that's why this is recommended for someone who wants to really understand the build process of model airplanes.
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Komentáře • 87

  • @waltersnowdon1243
    @waltersnowdon1243 Před 25 dny

    This is a copy of the old frog kit, one of a series of beginners kits from 1954. I built this and others from the series that year. (I am 84 years old) .I remember them as being made of much thinner balsa of high quality and the first pre cut kits I had ever seen. I used balsa cement and they went together very quickly. The wood in this kit seems to be twice as thick giving a high weight penalty. Nice though! Walter.

  • @lindamcentaffer5969
    @lindamcentaffer5969 Před 3 lety +4

    Titebond is much lighter & stronger glue. Shave the heavy prop blade with the knife edge as a scraper, & sand smooth.

  • @SeamusMcNeil
    @SeamusMcNeil Před 2 lety +4

    This has to be one of the best videos I have seen of a complete build. Thank you so much for making this so easy to follow. You have kept it all nice and simple to follow.
    Cheers.....Jim

  • @antoniodejesus5663
    @antoniodejesus5663 Před rokem +1

    Têm este kit Pará vender nó Brasil oqué posso está fazendo Pará adiquiri um kit fico muito agradecido Antônio de Jesus tonho sp Brasil

  • @user-lx7ql5vn5u
    @user-lx7ql5vn5u Před měsícem +1

    Great

  • @aeroearth
    @aeroearth Před rokem

    I built free flight models with PVA wood glue thinned about 10%. Balsa cement I found tended to dry out over time and pull away from the wood. Also the joints were brittle, whereas the PVA joints had a little flex so there was less damage in a heavy landing. A fully sheet tailplane (stabiliser) whilst simpler to build adds weight where you don't want it. I'd be looking to use 4 to 5 Lb/cubic foot wood for a solid tailplane if you want to follow the original FROG Widgeon design. Wood be useful to cut off a 10mm wide section of the tailplane trailing edge both sides then re attaching each piece with two 12mm lengths of 0.5mm soft iron wire that the Florists use. Secure the wire with thin cyano away from the hinge line. Use these to adjust flight elevation and turn.
    To avoid cutting the plan you might find the use of a small cutting mat useful, say 150mm square. After final doping the wings must be checked for warps before flight. Any warps that have crept in can be straightened over a stream of steam from a boiling kettle. Good idea to have a little wash out at each wing tip by steaming the training edge up by 2 to 3mm as this will help prevent tip stalling and spinning in.
    The "trick" to making those small models fly well is to use as light a balsa wood as possible except for the wing spars which should be 12 to 14 lb/cubic foot wood. The original kit manufacturers tended to use heavier wood as light wood does not die cut well and lasers hadn't been invented 60 years ago!

  • @stevendegiorgio3143
    @stevendegiorgio3143 Před 6 měsíci

    This looks like a very solid strong built model airplane.Stronget than the Gillows model kits.

  • @tonydewey3023
    @tonydewey3023 Před 8 měsíci

    This is quite a complex build. I was surprised

  • @tuncuzun8626
    @tuncuzun8626 Před 3 lety +4

    You are using the wrong adhesive for these type of wooden kits made mainly out of Balsa (with some additional Spruce/Beech in it). Either use "UHU Hart" or "Aliphatic Resin Wood Glue". The type of UHU you used for your built is rather a general purpose hobby glue and not well suited for this type of application.

  • @andyMSH700
    @andyMSH700 Před 2 lety

    well done.....i fly gliders,.heli in 3D, old classic planes and 3D planes but i failed miserably at free flight and control line when i was a boy....... well done for cracking it... bravo.

  • @Don.McLaughlin
    @Don.McLaughlin Před 3 lety +3

    Very nice. Looks like a good candidate for some micro r/c gear too.

    • @MrowkaJoe
      @MrowkaJoe Před 2 lety

      No, he's too heavy. Even now with rubber band can't fly well.

    • @EleanorPeterson
      @EleanorPeterson Před 5 měsíci

      I think adding 4" to each wingtip would give a very nice RC model. Modern radios have plenty of mixing options, so the V-tail would be all the control you'd need.

  • @calebbradbury7166
    @calebbradbury7166 Před 4 lety +2

    Looks awesome

  • @daveday5507
    @daveday5507 Před 2 lety +2

    This is the old 'FROG' kit. How can they get away without giving credit. If I were building a balsa kit, I would use balsa cement.

  • @osullivp123
    @osullivp123 Před 3 lety +2

    @Joyplanes RC what was the total finished weight of your plane including rubber, prop and nose weight etc.? Mine has come out close to 50g all up weight which seems on the high side.

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 Před rokem

    28:27, the wing profile used will make relatively less lift during ascent, and more during 'glide'.

  • @waynealexander9271
    @waynealexander9271 Před 3 lety

    Please let me know when you are restocked.! Nice construction insights!

  • @6bettyboo9
    @6bettyboo9 Před 4 lety +2

    I ordered mine !! So excited!! Shipping cost just as much as the plane lol !

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks! and yes, from anywhere in Europe shipping to the US is a bit expensive. Check your email for more info about your item.

  • @chrismofer
    @chrismofer Před 2 lety +1

    I've been building a Dumas kit and the laser cut parts are a godsend. My least favorite part of guillows kits I would make as a kid was cutting out and sanding all the pieces because the die cutter at the factory was dull or didn't cut all the way thru. I built the laser cut 'fly boy' from guillows and it was a really great intro to building for me. Cheers!

    • @lowercentenary
      @lowercentenary Před rokem

      Did u do ALL the steps shown here? The whole step of preventing warping to the wing was too confusing and seemed to requires more patience than I have...up until that I enjoyed this build

  • @guaporeturns9472
    @guaporeturns9472 Před 5 měsíci

    Pretty cool man!

  • @mikevlade4221
    @mikevlade4221 Před 3 lety +1

    i thought about a rubberprop to save a Motor . A glider would get into the height of 100 m?

  • @volcanowb
    @volcanowb Před 4 lety +1

    One seriously, cool dude!

  • @iwakeimidis
    @iwakeimidis Před 4 lety +2

    Nice

  • @BadChizzle
    @BadChizzle Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the fine video!

  • @hiramolivas5625
    @hiramolivas5625 Před 4 lety +1

    Eres increíble me gusta mucho tu trabajo ,estoy planeando comprarlo pero me preocupa el envío ya que soy de México

  • @johnroberts3723
    @johnroberts3723 Před 8 měsíci

    Great stuff but not advisable to cut on plans.

  • @EdFertik
    @EdFertik Před 7 měsíci

    Where do you buy your models and supplies.

  • @creativemindz1766
    @creativemindz1766 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this, do you ship to Nigeria please 🙏

  • @kidalainababy5337
    @kidalainababy5337 Před 4 lety +1

    You are a pro dude.I love your vedios.

  • @circuitandtech
    @circuitandtech Před 4 lety +1

    Nice tutorial again ....can you help me I couldn't find balsa wood and covering tissue... What to do ?

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Před 4 lety +1

      Look online! Many places sell balsa wood, and about the covering tissue is a bit harder to find but not impossible.

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 Před 3 lety +1

    Put some weight on the nose just like in the video, otherwise it won’t fly. That’s something that should be in the instructions. The alternative is to beef up the front end, maybe a hardwood nose block.

  • @johncater7861
    @johncater7861 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for posting. What do you call the T-shaped nails? My wife tells me they are called Blocking Pins.

  • @matthewspry4217
    @matthewspry4217 Před 2 lety

    Use a thin cyano glue to actually penetrate the wood and give good adhesion

  • @daleflying
    @daleflying Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video! Thanks for posting 😎

  • @AmjadKhan-cm5sm
    @AmjadKhan-cm5sm Před 4 lety +1

    great

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 Před rokem

    28:50, the stabs are HEAVY.!!! they SHOULD be FRAMED, with symmetrical profile.

  • @WanderCampesino
    @WanderCampesino Před rokem

    I would like to purchase one of these kits. Are you planning on making another run?

  • @massive611
    @massive611 Před 2 lety

    19:57, wouldn't it be easier, and more efficient/precise to glue the paper to the edge, then gently sand the paper until it falls off?

  • @davidcoetzee7369
    @davidcoetzee7369 Před rokem

    Your link to buy the model does not work

  • @meesamabbas6993
    @meesamabbas6993 Před 8 měsíci

    Why Rubber band when we have motors 🤦‍♂️, rubber band planes make me go crazy when they crash again and again.

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 Před rokem

    You could get away with less nose weight and further back c of g and less decalage. I don’t like Uhu adhesive for this. Aliphatic glue is good as is cyano. Britfix balsa cement was good but no longer available. You could lengthen the nose and longer rubber motor will give better flights. There are limitations with this sort of small model. It’s very suitable for electric though. The balance is better and with a small lipo longer flights are possible.

  • @pablorages1241
    @pablorages1241 Před 3 lety +1

    Won't the caster oil affect the tissue on the body?

    • @jimbo2629
      @jimbo2629 Před 3 lety

      Yes. It does. That’s why some use tissue over Mylar covering.

  • @MotiviqueStudio
    @MotiviqueStudio Před rokem

    I love this. I wonder how hard it would be to do your own desired hull configuration (imaginary or based on history) if you simply took the time to balance it? (Presuming what it's based on actually flies.)

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 Před rokem

    it Should be understood that an aircraft flies well when its elevator trim is optimal.! in the case of a free-flight model 'elevator trim' is FIXED; and so, some nose-up trim MUST BE built into the h-stab.!!

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 Před rokem

    it appears that your adhesive of choice is Heavier, and possible less-effective than, wood CEMENT or CA.!!! which is what SHOULD be used for wood to wood joins.

  • @Sailingon
    @Sailingon Před 4 lety +2

    Great video but music doesn't fit with a relaxing hobby

  • @Miami_Beach_RC
    @Miami_Beach_RC Před 4 lety

    I wanna get it!!

  • @kidalainababy5337
    @kidalainababy5337 Před 4 lety

    Joyplanes rc,Please make a cessna.

  • @Miami_Beach_RC
    @Miami_Beach_RC Před 4 lety

    Love your vids!

  • @DesertVox
    @DesertVox Před 4 měsíci

    The ruvver plane is not valans.

  • @09pawankumaryadaveee10

    Simply perfect and clean admire from Bharat (india in English).

  • @Helliconia54
    @Helliconia54 Před 4 lety +1

    looks like an old Frog kit.,Yes.Just checked.This is a copy of the old "Frog" widgeon.

    • @TCSC47
      @TCSC47 Před 3 lety +1

      You can find the plans at "House of Frog" web site.

  • @hiramolivas5625
    @hiramolivas5625 Před 4 lety

    Por cierto yo fui tu décimo like

  • @6bettyboo9
    @6bettyboo9 Před 4 lety

    Neat! do you ship to the USA 🇺🇸 ?

  • @lotophagi711
    @lotophagi711 Před 9 měsíci

    So much glue, so much weight.

  • @cpl_legend2700
    @cpl_legend2700 Před 2 lety

    You don't need to push

  • @JuanjoMaglione
    @JuanjoMaglione Před 2 lety +2

    "How to build the heaviest rubber powered plane"

    • @AdamantineAxe
      @AdamantineAxe Před 2 lety

      when he worried about the tissue warping that wing lol

    • @lowercentenary
      @lowercentenary Před rokem

      ​@AdamantineAxe can that step be avoided?

  • @TheJohanJonker
    @TheJohanJonker Před 3 lety

    Honestly, you could make an model from the foam board that would be better than Balsa.. -- Directly replacing balsa with foam, you can build a better more durable and lighter model ( still covered in tissue paper ) from the foam board..

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Před 3 lety +2

      I'm not sure, the foam will flex over time and loose shape.

  • @Helliconia54
    @Helliconia54 Před 4 lety

    Has Joyplanes RC bought the rights to Frog's catalogue?

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Před 4 lety

      No, we just made this plane but where can I contact them?

    • @Helliconia54
      @Helliconia54 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Joyplanes i think the company went out of business years ago.all there plans are free online. www.houseoffrog.co.uk/

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Před 4 lety +1

      That's the same website we used and yes it is a very old company.

  • @cpl_legend2700
    @cpl_legend2700 Před 2 lety

    Throw it gentle so it flight to USA😂😂😂

  • @patrikcalloch7953
    @patrikcalloch7953 Před 2 lety

    avec sa uhu on se croirait retourner en ...1971, lol

  • @somnathdende6178
    @somnathdende6178 Před 4 lety +1

    Plz replay me

  • @Stoney327
    @Stoney327 Před 2 lety

    I'd really love to finish watching BUT you need to stop that noise you call "music"? I can't mute the video or I can't hear what you're saying, but I can't stand the racket either!!!

  • @fookitrc74
    @fookitrc74 Před 3 lety

    sited dead 404

  • @johnonorgan
    @johnonorgan Před 2 lety

    music is horrible