J. Cole Says His Kendrick Lamar Diss Was Lame and Goofy [Reaction]

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  • čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
  • On April 7, just days after dropping "7 Minute Drill," J. Cole bows out of his lyrical beef with Kendrick Lamar.
    #jcole #kendricklamar #7minutedrill #likethat #drake #hiphop #hiphopbeef #hiphopreaction #dreamvillefest
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  • @derrickdicaprio
    @derrickdicaprio Před 2 měsíci +661

    "The Fall Off" better not have one “best rapper alive” bar on it. He gotta rap about global warming or some shit.

    • @shawnwilliam1802
      @shawnwilliam1802 Před 2 měsíci +28

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @CrownePri
      @CrownePri Před 2 měsíci +79

      @@shawnwilliam1802 you laughing but that shit serious...he better go back to rapping bout almond milk🤣

    • @Fayn757
      @Fayn757 Před 2 měsíci +34

      Facts I don’t wanna hear none of that 💩

    • @spark-minds
      @spark-minds Před 2 měsíci +6

      😂😂

    • @dominicharris5489
      @dominicharris5489 Před 2 měsíci

      Lol yall really ignorant asf 😂

  • @Jarz_007
    @Jarz_007 Před 2 měsíci +129

    This is by far the best, most objective take about this whole thing.

    • @sillynamereally
      @sillynamereally Před 2 měsíci +4

      its terrible, simply supporting Cole for business relations

    • @offense_a_byproduct_of_truth
      @offense_a_byproduct_of_truth Před 2 měsíci

      facts. especially if u seen his previous video on it, he def sensed this was coming and thet the beef wasn’t going to be cemented

    • @gabrielpuikumo1890
      @gabrielpuikumo1890 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sillynamereally you're very paranoid, i hope you're doing fine within your spirit

  • @christopherrodriguez9514
    @christopherrodriguez9514 Před 2 měsíci +227

    I want a tweet from kendrick that reads “Spoke to Cole, me and my brother are all good. Fuck Drake”

    • @timtron123
      @timtron123 Před 2 měsíci +9

      That giving off Nas Vibes lmao

    • @olisakinokechukwu5700
      @olisakinokechukwu5700 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Cole needs this right now.

    • @medinaw94
      @medinaw94 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Facts, this is Drakes fault

    • @TheDexRave
      @TheDexRave Před 2 měsíci +4

      2 v 1 drake, MAKE DRAKE FIGHT BACK! XD

    • @HolaEZITO
      @HolaEZITO Před 2 měsíci +2

      This the only way to make this situation less nasty lol

  • @user-dv4bm2pk5e
    @user-dv4bm2pk5e Před 2 měsíci +182

    Doesn’t surprise me tbh. The diss sounded half hearted and I didn’t think he believed most of the things he was saying at the time. Honestly he should’ve just dropped the project without the diss
    The most interesting part to me now is what will Kendrick do? Brush it off with a few bars? Ignore Cole completely? Or just bury him?

    • @kingchapo1
      @kingchapo1 Před 2 měsíci +36

      I honestly think dot is just gonna give him props and fully go in a Aubrey cuz let’s be honest Cole just caught a bullet meant for drake …..my opinion

    • @user-dv4bm2pk5e
      @user-dv4bm2pk5e Před 2 měsíci +22

      @@kingchapo1 we’ll see I guess. I have a strange feeling Kendrick is gonna go in on him. Check out Moosa from TDE most recent tweet

    • @thdjskxkxdjwi13
      @thdjskxkxdjwi13 Před 2 měsíci +6

      It probably depends on drake, I think Kendrick is waiting for drake to respond to drop a full diss. If drake doesn't drop this whole thing may just fizzle out. I don't think Kendrick that kinda person to go attack Cole after Cole retracted his diss.

    • @wm_9640
      @wm_9640 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Dot will spare him and focus on destroying Drake

    • @Nunchuck210
      @Nunchuck210 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Probably brush it off. Maybe even accept Cole's apology. Kinda depends on how much Kendrick hates Drake, though. If it's really like that he'll probably bury Cole just for being associated. If it's just rap beef, the first one is the most likely

  • @mikemootseng8203
    @mikemootseng8203 Před 2 měsíci +33

    Now we looking at the competition like quick submission, they tapping out before we even get a chance to miss em.😂😂😂

  • @Nostalgicknick48
    @Nostalgicknick48 Před 2 měsíci +77

    Here to listen to a hip hop scholar

    • @Eko_55_
      @Eko_55_ Před 2 měsíci +2

      Facts... no internet hype bs, just thoughtful and insightful talk

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +10

      love!

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@Eko_55_ love!

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@RobMarkman
      Yep. Subscribed. Love from the UK. Peace to the Gods

  • @iamkelz6047
    @iamkelz6047 Před 2 měsíci +172

    Kendrick definitely sent Cole a snippet of his diss track 💀

    • @GnA_000
      @GnA_000 Před 2 měsíci +16

      JFold was baffled by the snip and tucked his tail. Pathetic

    • @Nunchuck210
      @Nunchuck210 Před 2 měsíci +20

      I don't think so. I think push come to shove if Kendrick still drops a diss, J Cole will still respond to it. I just think he responded cuz he was in the middle of a roll out and on tour and Kendrick's diss pissed him off, so he wrote something in the heat of the moment, but then reflected and realized that he and Dot dont really got beef anyway. It's Dot and Drake that have the beef. Some real disrespectful shit is finna be said on both sides, and J Cole being cool with both of em is opting out. Kinda like when you have two friends that are arguing and you start to pick a side, but then the other one does something petty, and you're kinda just like, "Aight, yall figure that shit out."
      Still pretty weak from a rap fans perspective. But as a man? Yeah, I get it.

    • @colbyhemming.
      @colbyhemming. Před 2 měsíci +5

      Dot wanted to give him a chance to forfeit 😅

    • @BluEx22329
      @BluEx22329 Před 2 měsíci +10

      He sent him heart part 4

    • @calebwillillhight
      @calebwillillhight Před 2 měsíci +4

      Nah fr cause Cole ain’t have no problem dissing lil punk and nem but he knew what this was gonna be.

  • @Rahkeem_7
    @Rahkeem_7 Před 2 měsíci +19

    And now we look at the competition as quick submission
    They tappin' out before we even get a chance to miss 'em - KING KENDRICK 👑

  • @AcidBreakz
    @AcidBreakz Před 2 měsíci +32

    There’s a fine line of competition when there’s dissing involved because the disses can overstep personal boundaries in friendships and I think Cole realized when he dissed his discography, he overstepped. We all know Kendrick’s discography is top tier.
    Cole isn’t going to sell his soul and ruin a friendship for clout or because the fans want blood. Cole is better than that.

    • @BabsW
      @BabsW Před 2 měsíci +6

      That same friend dissed him though. No excuses

    • @medinaw94
      @medinaw94 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Should have never said it. Most his fans were saying it wasn't really about him. Kdot would have let it slide if shut his mouth. Now he gotta apologize and saying he will accept his fate

    • @jasondavid1187
      @jasondavid1187 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Lol what friendship? his "friend" said ..."fuck you bum" don't misconstrue respect and friendship ...and you can even question if there is respect at that point even within competition

    • @IamMrImpeccable
      @IamMrImpeccable Před 2 měsíci +3

      Why are ppl NOT understanding this. It’s a losing battle for him.
      If he go hard and diss him like “Historical” battles , he not going to La anymore period. They will crash out for Dot! And he LOVES Dot.

    • @IamMrImpeccable
      @IamMrImpeccable Před 2 měsíci

      @@jasondavid1187 You don’t think Cole & Dot were friends?

  • @thaspydaman21
    @thaspydaman21 Před 2 měsíci +71

    When a man starts talking about something messing with his peace & his spirit you can't do anything but respect whatever decision he makes. People calling it weak shows where their spirits are at it's deeper than rap.

    • @erikgonzalez2486
      @erikgonzalez2486 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Facts! I actually respect him more by being real instead of doing what everyone expects. Life always isn’t about competition.

    • @thaspydaman21
      @thaspydaman21 Před 2 měsíci

      @@erikgonzalez2486 on God

    • @roachdoggjr4648
      @roachdoggjr4648 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I respect Cole as a man for being transparent about how he felt, even though it was obvious from the track. I'll probably listen to his shit more as a result actually. That said, I lost a lot of respect for him as a competitor in the game, because we know all that talk about wanting smoke and him being #1 is cap, and even he don't believe it. What he did was weak in the context of rap and competition, but incredibly brave as a man and especially a man in the industry. I applaud him for getting ahead of it before it got worse for him.

    • @user-nr6ul3pw3q
      @user-nr6ul3pw3q Před 2 měsíci +9

      Y’all try to be so deep. It ain’t that serious. All somebody gotta do is say the words “spirit” or “peace” and critical thinking goes out the window. It’s a verbal sparring he been asking for. They were already subbing but now it’s too much to bare? I respect the position, I respect the bravery it took to go up on stage and do this but to over dramatize it was too much.

    • @jacobholley6181
      @jacobholley6181 Před 2 měsíci

      @@erikgonzalez2486man people expecting him to do??? Y’all goofy he been told the world for two years he smoke your favorite rapper. Im Muhammad Ali bro spoke something into existence that he didn’t want no part of that’s on him

  • @mississippi_burning
    @mississippi_burning Před 2 měsíci +62

    Kendrick and Cole spoke. Drake's back on the hot seat.

    • @coryjackson6944
      @coryjackson6944 Před 2 měsíci +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ngmmngw9027
      @ngmmngw9027 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Y’all don’t understand this Drake has to do nothing

    • @ProdByPalmarius
      @ProdByPalmarius Před 2 měsíci +11

      I've never known so many men to be obsessed with Drake, you're all on some diddy vibes

    • @mississippi_burning
      @mississippi_burning Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@ProdByPalmarius you’re caping for an entertainer, but we’re on Diddy vibes? This is Hip Hop.

    • @nnamdi602
      @nnamdi602 Před 2 měsíci

      Drake and gotta say nothing these rap niggas are clowns. One raps when he feels like it and the other one coppin the pleas. Not worth drake time.

  • @BluEx22329
    @BluEx22329 Před 2 měsíci +29

    "Yall got till april the 7th to get ya sh together" kendrick lamar heart part4

  • @rafaelbeltran3309
    @rafaelbeltran3309 Před 2 měsíci +17

    You just earned a subscriber. You the only youtuber speaking facts and speaking from a MATURE stand point. Respect 🙏

  • @belowthaheavenz9388
    @belowthaheavenz9388 Před 2 měsíci +78

    I feel second hand embarrassment for Cole man shii sad as hell as a hip hop fan . He’s never gonna live this down . Hes put in so much work to get to this point and now this is what people will remember him for 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @Djeucbess
      @Djeucbess Před 2 měsíci +18

      True that.. the fall off is already here😞

    • @belowthaheavenz9388
      @belowthaheavenz9388 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@Djeucbesssmh

    • @user-tz2yp5jl2w
      @user-tz2yp5jl2w Před 2 měsíci +18

      Facts. Sadly in terms of hip hop, a diss track was the last metric J Cole could use to show he better than Kendrick, because he already loses on discography, accolades, sales etc. Now he’s lost a beef in a way we’ve never seen in hip hop EVER…apologising and getting your own fans to cheer for the man who dissed you. The conversation is done and on to Drake

    • @avantikor360
      @avantikor360 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@user-tz2yp5jl2wman shit made me mad cause i grew up in early 2000s and people used to diss left and right it was apart of the culture to compete now this has made every joe budden point about him being “too friendly” TRUE and it shouldnt be

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @below.
      I think it's clear he doesn't care what people think. Hence the public apology. He's chill with fam, his financial security and evidently his faith.
      How are you doing?

  • @mitchpaopao6921
    @mitchpaopao6921 Před 2 měsíci +60

    He had to defuse the situation before Kendrick came out here trying to Kill Shot him 😂

    • @DawryMike
      @DawryMike Před 2 měsíci +18

      Fucked up part is that Kendrick might use this as ammo. He's built like that

    • @MatthewDavis-us6id
      @MatthewDavis-us6id Před 2 měsíci

      Kendrick ass had 24 hours he didn't come back

    • @kungfukenny1540
      @kungfukenny1540 Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@MatthewDavis-us6id😂💀

    • @MatthewDavis-us6id
      @MatthewDavis-us6id Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@DawryMike Well, I hope Kendrick push his buttons again

    • @lucakoselj7123
      @lucakoselj7123 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Kendrick won't do nothing. Stop hyping him up, he's no battle rapper. Hes great, but none of the big 3 are great at dissing. Subliminal shit, yeah why not. But real diss tracks? Nah they ain't built like that

  • @kedumetsinongwe4384
    @kedumetsinongwe4384 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I love how cole is being real and is not afraid of bing criticised is the position he's in. Much of what you said about him Rob is 💯 correct that he is apologizing not out of fear or incompetence but simply because he's not that person and his spirit was not in line with the diss. But i do believe that his lyrical ability is still unquestionable and that what we should know.

  • @MrDaffysci
    @MrDaffysci Před 2 měsíci +5

    This really disturbed Cole.. I don't understand it but I respect it

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci

      that's fair. Resect is the No. 1 thing

  • @jenellef9719
    @jenellef9719 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Pleas keep these videos going ur opinion on hip hop is so needed today! I like how you give respect to each person and state ur claim with pure facts. I don't always agree but I value ur opinion and u make me look at things differently.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +3

      yeah it'll be crazy if we always agreed with each other, but as long as the respect is there, Im cool!

  • @capquest4488
    @capquest4488 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Cole been subbin Kenny 4 a while even if it was subconsciously, him talking that I’m the best shit, just ain’t gonna hit the same no more cuz he’s not willing to go to war for that title

  • @belowthaheavenz9388
    @belowthaheavenz9388 Před 2 měsíci +13

    There’s HIP HOP fans and RAP fans … all the rap fans came out engaging and speaking on some hip hop shii picking sides and slandering the other side . Shii was mad weak to me . Hip hop heads know wassup !! They’re both fire

    • @kareendotson4732
      @kareendotson4732 Před 2 měsíci +1

      NAH
      THIS WACK FOR HIPHOP/RAP
      J COLE STILL TOP 30 BUT IT'S NO BIG 3 ANYMORE...HE MADE THINGS WEIRD FOR DRAKE TO RESPOND SMH

    • @belowthaheavenz9388
      @belowthaheavenz9388 Před 2 měsíci

      @@kareendotson4732 hip hop and rap are different dawg … hip hop is Kendrick Cole rap is 21 savage / future those types

    • @kareendotson4732
      @kareendotson4732 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@belowthaheavenz9388 HIPHOP IS BATTLE AND RAP IS BATTLE...
      COMMON BATTLED ICE CUBE DUDE...
      I KNOW WHAT U MEAN BUT UR WRONG KENDRICK ALBUMS ARE HIPHOP AND J COLE MAKE REGULAR RAP ALBUMS HE'S NOT INNOVATIVE

  • @Artislife1992
    @Artislife1992 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I don’t look at Cole no way. Even though us real music lovers/Hip Hop heads wanted a exclusive freestyle or something of the sort at Dreamville Fest. Always loved J. Cole because he’s transparent unlike Drake who’s just the opposite imo.
    Drake is the big fish that Kendrick wants. Even though J. Cole has been taking shots while standing next to Drake. You can’t throw rocks then hide ya hands.
    This doesn’t change Cole’s legacy at all to me. If people can look past the weak ish Drake do I don’t wanna hear fickle fans even try it with Cole. Let the jokes fly doe. This is the internet so I get it. 🤔🤔🤔

  • @BigClipps
    @BigClipps Před 2 měsíci +4

    This doesnt have to be a weekly or consistent thing but hearing your objective takes on Hip Hop moments is something to be appreciated

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +2

      gonna work on this more consistency

  • @Eko_55_
    @Eko_55_ Před 2 měsíci +7

    Just subscribed
    You're easily the most thoughtful and most insightful rap commentator I've ever heard on this app... period, no hype just real talk. And I've listened to a bunch

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +2

      thank you, i dont take that vote of confidence lightly

  • @JayPro4620
    @JayPro4620 Před 2 měsíci +25

    We’re always here for your opinion Rob. Keep it going.

    • @martinpennypacker7598
      @martinpennypacker7598 Před 2 měsíci

      the glazing is crazy

    • @JayPro4620
      @JayPro4620 Před 2 měsíci

      @@martinpennypacker7598 get off my nuts fam.

    • @ProdByPalmarius
      @ProdByPalmarius Před 2 měsíci

      @@martinpennypacker7598 it's called praise, I'm guessing your dad didn't give you much when he was punching you, right?

  • @Naya_277
    @Naya_277 Před 2 měsíci +27

    Kendrick is just the last of his kind that’s it and for Cole there should be no more Muhammad Ali talk on his tracks

    • @georgejosiah8030
      @georgejosiah8030 Před 2 měsíci

      😂

    • @hollowshrine4148
      @hollowshrine4148 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah kendrick last of his kind, mid rappers that are overhyped

    • @forgive.them.
      @forgive.them. Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@hollowshrine4148 Who is a good rapper?

    • @hollowshrine4148
      @hollowshrine4148 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@forgive.them. Im jus playin G, Kendrick is good! I like to stir up some shit from time to time lol.

  • @Jimmyjones151
    @Jimmyjones151 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Great breakdown Rob. Hope you keep putting out videos like this as regularly as you can to talk about new music etc. I’ll for sure be tuning in

  • @JohnRYT
    @JohnRYT Před 2 měsíci +3

    All weekend people and content creators have been twisting themselves into pretzels trying to defend this mid pack of a diss. Thank you for your honesty, and they all owe us an apology.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci

      I really want those apologies fam LOL

  • @dviousmindz
    @dviousmindz Před 2 měsíci +2

    that you owe me an apology part 😂

  • @kevink01639
    @kevink01639 Před 2 měsíci +40

    As a J cole stan since The Warm Up this is the lamest shit I ever seen. This was not serious or deep enough beef to publicly humiliate yourself and have this embarrassing stain on your legacy. It’s just competition and lyrical sparring. What makes it worse is every song for the last few years he been asking for smoke and for somebody to test him and how great he is. This really is embarrassing. What makes it worse Kendrick will show no mercy and still ether him

    • @ianleex6874
      @ianleex6874 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think he’s more concerned I’m creating actual problems with actual friends of his. You don’t throw a punch at someone and just assume it’s just sparring

    • @Braillionaire
      @Braillionaire Před 2 měsíci

      We're also forgetting the fact that there was no actual beef though. He big upped another rapper, and then that rapper dissed him pretty much for no reason. That was weird from jump. Hov and Nas had beef. This wasn't that.
      I thought this move was mad lame from Dot in the first place. I wanted to see the two of them compete, but I understand Cole saying that he doesn't want to do it like this.

    • @jasondavid1187
      @jasondavid1187 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ianleex6874lol they are not friends , what gives y'all the impression they are other than Jermaine asking him to pray for him 🤦

    • @ianleex6874
      @ianleex6874 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jasondavid1187 they’re entire career they are known to be friends. They have bigged each other up, made music together, planned to make an album together. Actually There’s nothing to indicate they had any reason to have a problem with each other.

    • @Rahz31
      @Rahz31 Před 2 měsíci +3

      So you rather him sacrifice his own peace to appease us? Rappers been sacrificing their sanity since Hip Hop started and gain nothing but cool points in the regards of battle. You can’t win lol

  • @MediaTorres
    @MediaTorres Před 2 měsíci +11

    It was evident in his reluctant sounding response. Jumped out the window way early. Should've just chilled a little longer and watch it play out a bit.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +2

      yeah, hindsight is 20/20. but you right

  • @Kdeen.
    @Kdeen. Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bro keep doing these videos there needed fr fr 💯

  • @earlskinner615
    @earlskinner615 Před 2 měsíci +27

    Ugh too many feelings about this. I was actually surprised that he did it in the first place. And if he hadn’t he would still have my respect. But to drop it then retract it. That part. Does that take away from any of the talk he said in his prior verses? If that didn’t really sit with his heart then I respect him talking to the audience directly. I think prior to all this he talked about being a grown family man in rap and not seeking drama in general. Seemed like he regrets letting himself get gassed by his peers to do something that wasn’t in his heart to do. Sad one for the fans but he damn near 40 with two kids and leads a pretty stable lifestyle. Is there space for someone like that in Hip Hop? And if there isn’t what does that say for Hip Hop?

    • @HandMeDeals
      @HandMeDeals Před 2 měsíci +1

      It was nothing wrong with keeping it hip hop. This a competition

  • @k2kyd220
    @k2kyd220 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It seems you are the only mature voice left in Hip Hop. Thank you, you’ve truly earned a fan. Please upload these as podcasts also. The slander on J Cole’s name right now is a bit overkill.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      thank you for the love and recognizing what Im about

  • @abbybrinkman2666
    @abbybrinkman2666 Před 2 měsíci

    Definitely my favorite rap commentary channel! So calm and objective 💯

  • @medinaw94
    @medinaw94 Před 2 měsíci +2

    "He still ill", but he is not better than Kdot. Thats always been the point

  • @alonzoterry3123
    @alonzoterry3123 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Been loving to vids Rob, been watching your content since the For the record series and always appreciated your perspective 💪🏾

  • @MRGIVENODAMN
    @MRGIVENODAMN Před 2 měsíci +77

    When I heard Cole say "if he wasn't dissing then we wouldn't be discussing him" i knew he wasn't with it.
    It didn't sound genuine and it sounded like Cole wrote those lyrics to appease Drake who had his chin on Cole's shoulder looking at Cole work

    • @HandMeDeals
      @HandMeDeals Před 2 měsíci +36

      Drake was laying his head on j cole shoulder saying that line fire papi

    • @dadidy8493
      @dadidy8493 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@HandMeDeals ayooo🤣🤣

    • @Ahmed-yv7qv
      @Ahmed-yv7qv Před 2 měsíci

      😂😂😂

    • @naicdlc6523
      @naicdlc6523 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Sounds even worse 🤣

    • @wideopenwounds
      @wideopenwounds Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@HandMeDeals”lets celebrate this diss with some champagne papi”

  • @nate_thegreat313
    @nate_thegreat313 Před 2 měsíci +12

    That Boyz N The Hood comparison was on point. Looking at his speech I can hear it but at the same time from a lyrical competition standpoint, Cole can’t just retract his words and go all out if he really wants to have his moment as one of the greatest since he be mentioning it in his verses. I love Cole but he gotta embrace the competitive spirit and go in.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +4

      i just dont think that's where he is at the moment

    • @greg2797
      @greg2797 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm interested. People keep talking about competitive spirit but y'all are ok with Wayne saying he is the best on every record but backing down from a battle. Em says he's the best but praises the other top rappers in his era and never dissed them or went bar for bar. The only instances of the top rappers going head to head are when they have an actual misunderstanding or issue with each other. Kendrick and Cole clearly are cool with each other so why would they need to go back and forth on wax? We never have seen that happen before. The biggest back and forths in rap history were always between 2 rappers who were going back and forth because they actually didn't like each other and didn't know each other. Not because of competitive spirit lol

    • @nate_thegreat313
      @nate_thegreat313 Před 2 měsíci

      @@RobMarkman Definitely hear what you mean and looking at it now from a much broader perspective I respect Cole more for even having the balls to go in front of thousands and express he felt wrong about it in his spirit. No diss tracks don’t gotta prove who’s better. Dot and Cole could’ve done Black Friday Pt. 2 which in my opinion could have been the better option

  • @watme.3914
    @watme.3914 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Nice take. No bias felt. Professional take and fair assessment. I’ve been a Cole fan ever since hearing sideline story and dollar and a dream. He to me is In a different lane then what most mainstream people will see. 7 min drill felt different because that ain’t him. He to me is different to all rappers and uniquely tells stories from a more compassionate and hopeful side. E.g Niki Minaj recent ft along with his audio hug to Mrs walker. Promoter of peace and unification. To me he sometime feel like he on some Bob Marley and Lauren Hill lane. But that’s how I view him. The Bob Marley, Lauryn Hill of Rap stands alone as number 1 in his own space. My top 3 overall in my rap game now.

  • @TheeMoonstar
    @TheeMoonstar Před 2 měsíci

    I respect you wanted to get your OWN content poppin. That's respect. I've seen and heard your voice and other platforms but it's dope to see you wanting to kinda do and talk about what you want freely 💯

  • @Cowinz
    @Cowinz Před 2 měsíci +56

    "Put your favorite rappers neck in a noose. Never letting him loose" j cole just invalidated all of his previous bars as well. He falling off forreal

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 Před 2 měsíci +13

      He better not say another bar like that!

    • @rtoriq
      @rtoriq Před 2 měsíci +4

      Why. Do. Yall. Take. This. Shyt. Seriously?

    • @davesenatus5566
      @davesenatus5566 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@rtoriqCmon Cole fan. When he released his diss weren’t y’all crying about how Kendrick’s “cooked” or that his fans were scared?

    • @Charlie2Wild
      @Charlie2Wild Před 2 měsíci

      @@rtoriq you're the one thats heated. You sound like the angry dad the has to pause between words while spanking his kid. Bro chill.

    • @rtoriq
      @rtoriq Před 2 měsíci +3

      ⁠@@Charlie2Wildyou got all that from one simple question? Lol

  • @Dmarz89
    @Dmarz89 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I have to apologize, not for saying you were wrong but for not following your work sooner. Great content objective and rational take, you actually sound like a sane person which is saying a lot when it comes to giving opinions these days knowing that the outlandish shit talk gets more attention. Salute King!

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      hahaha i'll take it. no apologies necessary but im glad you're here.

  • @thataintbool
    @thataintbool Před 2 měsíci

    yo so glad you back on. always got the dopest breakdowns.

  • @FloridaGeorgia
    @FloridaGeorgia Před 2 měsíci +6

    It's so good to see Mark with his life after MTV, Genius, and Amazon💯

  • @terrencel323
    @terrencel323 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Bruh. I'm glad you decided to do your own content.
    Subscribed. Can't wait to see what you do next.

  • @bilalmotley3699
    @bilalmotley3699 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Keep these reactions coming, Rob!

  • @The1andOnlyGlitch
    @The1andOnlyGlitch Před 2 měsíci

    Rob always coming through with an unbiased perspective! This content will be greater than anything you provided to those other platforms. KEEP THIS GOING, man. Hip-Hop needs analysis just like this!

  • @mrerri2363
    @mrerri2363 Před 2 měsíci +3

    24:58 “Cole could farted on stage as a response to Kendrick and people would called it the illest fart” that has me dying lmfao

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      but did I lie? lol

    • @mrerri2363
      @mrerri2363 Před 2 měsíci

      @@RobMarkman you right, you right lmao

  • @86Sentra
    @86Sentra Před 2 měsíci +39

    Cole took the easy way out. We gotta call it how it is. Great rapper, just not as good as kendrick

    • @MatthewDavis-us6id
      @MatthewDavis-us6id Před 2 měsíci +4

      Stop the cap

    • @86Sentra
      @86Sentra Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@MatthewDavis-us6idcole music is more accessible as a whole, but its just preference I guess. I prefer the weirdo /jazz shit but when it come to bars kendrick would never go out like this.

    • @ioverslept.
      @ioverslept. Před 2 měsíci +2

      In what universe is fixing a misstep and staying true to yourself (in front of the whole world) is "the easy way out"

    • @Dr.Zuess.
      @Dr.Zuess. Před 2 měsíci +1

      Even though j Cole went out like this until he apologized he was cooking Kendrick let's be real

    • @user-dv4bm2pk5e
      @user-dv4bm2pk5e Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Dr.Zuess.he wasn’t whatsoever though. He’s a good rapper but he’s not built like a Kendrick or a Pusha and bowed out before he even got a chance to go at him. Soft

  • @FreeSmokeMac
    @FreeSmokeMac Před 2 měsíci +3

    Rob love the channel we gotta run the numbers up for a real legend 💯

  • @princeamoakwa4057
    @princeamoakwa4057 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for this. It was mature, level-headed, fair and instructive. Subscribed.

  • @tonykemokai7353
    @tonykemokai7353 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Please keep doing these bro. Real informative. Blessings

  • @abbybrinkman2666
    @abbybrinkman2666 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love your commentary man!!!!! Keep it up

  • @ainsleyelliott809
    @ainsleyelliott809 Před 2 měsíci +71

    Come on man what are we talking about here. Apologizing? Hours later? On the biggest stage? He’s a professional rap artist. We’re making excuses for people who are paid millions of dollars to make rap music. Would LeBron apologize to Steph curry? What is this artform becoming? Sucker MCs

    • @p0pimp2004
      @p0pimp2004 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Dissing and rap ain't synonymous man. People typically diss when they have real beef. Cole clearly don't have real beef with that man. The fans trying to create something bc they wanna see blood.

    • @JD-ny3vz
      @JD-ny3vz Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@p0pimp2004Bruh MC battled before they ever made singles.
      The competitiveness of rapping has always been there stop it.
      Especially for a lyrical MC that has proclaimed to be the best rapper for the past 5 years.

  • @coronbrown9238
    @coronbrown9238 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Keep these coming Rob!!! And again. Bring that comic knowledge over here too if you want

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Comic Videos coming soon, i promise !!!

  • @BackOnMyBullish
    @BackOnMyBullish Před 2 měsíci +3

    Lmao @ you calling out the comment section for them apologies.. I rock witchu bro, you got yourself a subscriber. Hoping for your success building this thang up dolo 💪🏼

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I need those apologies!!! hahahaha

  • @SpookyRedBone
    @SpookyRedBone Před 2 měsíci +2

    i found ur channel by accident but you one of the realest in the game rn

  • @retiredhater
    @retiredhater Před 2 měsíci +1

    Actually really enjoying this format, everybody does that whole insert clip shit. this feels like a discussion w the bro not some social media shit.

  • @RazzyDreads
    @RazzyDreads Před 2 měsíci +6

    Can someone give me an example of 2 rappers who genuinely fuck with each there made back and forth dissed towards each other? Especially in the world of social media. Yall hating jus cause he values their friendship and brotherhood?

    • @aymen4226
      @aymen4226 Před 2 měsíci

      Tory Lanez and Joyner Lucas not even that long ago

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +2

      funny enough, the last two friends who went at each other that i can think of is Cole and Wale on "False Prophets" and "Groundhog's Day"

    • @RazzyDreads
      @RazzyDreads Před 2 měsíci

      @@aymen4226 they not as close as cole and kendrick

    • @RazzyDreads
      @RazzyDreads Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@RobMarkman yea but ppl want more than those type of disses. Good example tho

    • @RazzyDreads
      @RazzyDreads Před 2 měsíci +1

      @RobMarkman jus went back to listen to groundhog day and he took it light on cole and called him his brother. Same as cole tried to do and got killed for it

  • @TshoCa
    @TshoCa Před 2 měsíci +41

    A guy who hypes all the best rapper talk at least stand by it so that we can appreciate your art. because the back catalog now feels crazy can't play FPS the same

    • @ioverslept.
      @ioverslept. Před 2 měsíci +4

      What? If anything him taking the stupid shit he said back falls in line with fps, he literally gave Kdot his props

    • @PandemoniumGameDev
      @PandemoniumGameDev Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@ioverslept. he did. He also said he feel like Muhammad Ali implying he's one of the GOATs. If you can't back it up in a competition that's just empty talk

    • @RazzyDreads
      @RazzyDreads Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@PandemoniumGameDevyes implying that when he gets on track with ppl he feels like that. Not rap beefing with yo homie to prove it

    • @PandemoniumGameDev
      @PandemoniumGameDev Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@RazzyDreads for me rap is competitive, like bball. So no matter if you're friends or not, if you want the top spot you gotta prove it up. The fact that Cole backed down shows either a lack of a competitive spirit or lack of confidence. Plus beef doesn't need to be personal, it's just a competition.

    • @PandemoniumGameDev
      @PandemoniumGameDev Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-nr6ul3pw3q yeah, it's just a bad look for him overall. This is just like the dude who brags about his skills and when it's time to put it on the line, he goes missing.

  • @k.mckirdy
    @k.mckirdy Před 2 měsíci +2

    Keep this going Rob. These videos are dope

  • @producedbytyler
    @producedbytyler Před 2 měsíci

    Love your work Rob, heard you on Shade few years back keep going

  • @maDdhaus__cretive
    @maDdhaus__cretive Před 2 měsíci +1

    keep pushin my guy. great content....lets really go into the makings of bar....and all them details.

  • @TshoCa
    @TshoCa Před 2 měsíci +31

    why aint Cole put this thoughts in a record... this preaching thing sucks

    • @teasystableent
      @teasystableent Před 2 měsíci +1

      Exactly what i said

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +8

      i think we'll hear it in a record eventually

    • @geoclark7070
      @geoclark7070 Před 2 měsíci +4

      He said how he felt about himself what about that came off as preachy or him preaching to the audience?

    • @princeamoakwa4057
      @princeamoakwa4057 Před 2 měsíci

      A song about this would be great. It has to be a really good song with a great storytelling angle and point.

  • @shawnwilliam1802
    @shawnwilliam1802 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Not you naming names??? 😂😂😂 😂😂

  • @vntre_productions
    @vntre_productions Před 2 měsíci +2

    Couldn’t have said it better. Truest take i’ve seen on this. This elevates Cole in my book and speaks volumes to his terms of quality, quantity and morality as striving to always being in alignment with what is in his highest spirits.

  • @2CWILKES
    @2CWILKES Před 2 měsíci +1

    I saw one of your shorts about your billboard in Times Square...and you mentioned the universe. That's exactly how it goes with that fam. From there...i subscribed. Great work! But foreal...i felt conflicted even having this whole 'beef' be a real life thing. I value them both for different reasons and listen to them both daily. And i agree with your sentiment on 7 minute Drill. Its like when you cook for your family but you are just too tired. They feel it. Also...as a core fan of Cole...we are ouchea like..."that was such a Cole thing to do". Makes me respect him more. Nobody wants their peace compromised. Nah

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci

      thank you for the support! That Times Square billboard was special for me. Im im with you 100% agree

  • @romeobruno3739
    @romeobruno3739 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Yes do that jada and Beans breakdown. As a cole fan this move hurt men. Wanted to see Cole compete after rapping hungry for pass years.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      ima work on the jada and beans thing for sure!

  • @sunsetwavey
    @sunsetwavey Před 2 měsíci +3

    Had to get extra whiskey tonight to cope. Ma boi Cole folded 😩😩😩

  • @ptctivo
    @ptctivo Před 2 měsíci +1

    Before you get huge on here and I have a chance for this to be seen, I love what you’re doin and the approach you’re taking. Honored to be subscriber and watch your journey as you and your channel grows🫡🫡

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      much love to you. Ima try to be in the comments as much as i can

  • @King007Greatest
    @King007Greatest Před 2 měsíci +2

    First of all, salute to you Rob, true hip hop head , we love these series from you! We all bit disappointed cause we wanted a battle, i understand cole tho, especially when he f with kendrick , his only mistake is dropping a disstrack , he fell under pressure of whole world , it was an ego fight, so definitely i agree it wasn’t easy for him to say that in front the world. He took an L in rap game but got huge W in human growth terms

  • @25delly
    @25delly Před 2 měsíci +4

    I've been saying Cole doesn't believe his own words in the diss towards Kendrick, he been super complimentary for far too long to now say Kendrick is anything less than great. Is this career suicide for Cole?

  • @hova531
    @hova531 Před 2 měsíci +21

    Nah Rob, Cole cant say he's the best no more. Not with the aggression and bravado he always said it with. Because in hip-hop whenever someone claimed to be on top of something and got challenged for their position, if you dont rise to defend your claim, you lose it. And especially with public perception now, its the Big 2 with Cole a clear 3rd now.

  • @Thrivel
    @Thrivel Před 2 měsíci +25

    I don’t think he’s not into competition. I think he’s not into it with someone he respects and really doesn’t have an issue with. At first I was disappointed in Cole, but honestly he did the right thing. The internet needs to realize that this whole ordeal is really Kendrick vs Drake.

    • @magnifyvideoco
      @magnifyvideoco Před 2 měsíci +1

      🎯

    • @SurrealEtc
      @SurrealEtc Před 2 měsíci

      🧢

    • @Fayn757
      @Fayn757 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nah foh

    • @raulsouza5866
      @raulsouza5866 Před 2 měsíci

      The problem is Drake's lyrics are lame, Cole was a guy that could make a battle with Kendrick entertaining, I don't see how Drake would even touch Kendrick, but it is what it is.

    • @Ahmed-yv7qv
      @Ahmed-yv7qv Před 2 měsíci +1

      Cap, this whole ordeal is to solidify who is number 1 in the game. He’s not built for it , he can keep rapping about being the number 1 rapper but scared to back it up.

  • @MichaelMiller6
    @MichaelMiller6 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Appreciate your perspective!

  • @maestrohiphop
    @maestrohiphop Před 2 měsíci +37

    I always said the j Cole was unique cus he was able to show off his lyricism in a way that the masses could understand. More palatable

    • @BobaDavis
      @BobaDavis Před 2 měsíci +1

      Hmm, they're both relatable.

    • @medinaw94
      @medinaw94 Před 2 měsíci +6

      You mean simpler thoughts. More digestible. You gotta chew on a Kdot bar

    • @maestrohiphop
      @maestrohiphop Před 2 měsíci

      @@medinaw94 yeah exactly, you gotta hear a Kendrick track a couple times to fully appreciate it

  • @earlskinner615
    @earlskinner615 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Your thoughts have value. Keep doing your thing.

  • @dfwherbie8814
    @dfwherbie8814 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Smh I had to delete Might Delete This. I can’t take Cole seriously now. This is just a rap battle. Not street beef. Bro acting like this is 50 vs Preme. Poossay!!

    • @felipwashere
      @felipwashere Před 2 měsíci

      Bro right… the lamest thing is him “apologizing” it ain’t that serious man. If anything, this is good for the game.

  • @EayuProuxm
    @EayuProuxm Před 2 měsíci +1

    Rob, I love the pettiness. If your disagreements are public, your apologies should be public too.

  • @alphawilliams4786
    @alphawilliams4786 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Off topic love what you’re doing man!

  • @G.LD.
    @G.LD. Před 2 měsíci +2

    1. Cole said no rapper wanted it with him..turns out that was a lie
    2. He said he would body "your" favorite rapper..that also turned out to be false
    3. He said saying his name in a verse would kill n "that's word from the wise." Can you tell me if he lied or not?
    4. He said he wasn't ducking any smoke. Yup..you guessed it, he lied about that too
    At this point we dont even want the fall off. He could keep it. He needs to retire already n become a catholic preacher. All his yapping about being/wanting to be the best was all cap. Cole is exactly like the lion from the oz..no wonder he refers to himself as simba

  • @ZendayaG
    @ZendayaG Před 2 měsíci +2

    First time watching your channel and I gotta say I respect you for not shouting yelling and doing all that extra sht Ak and Budden be doing. Yes this is how intelligent ppl talk! So salute to you!
    Second thing is, you mentioned Royce. He’s good rapper and all but he not a battle rapper and when push came to shove, Lupe and Mickey facts got him up outta here. So not everyone build for the beef.

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci

      Much love, Royce had some battles back in the day with D12, and others. Royce in his younger years was very serious about the competitive side of things. Dont let the lupe / Mickey thing change your mind. But im glad we get to talk about this stuff here!

  • @micblaze401
    @micblaze401 Před 2 měsíci

    You interviewed Dot on mtv after tupab right ? Respect you doing you’re own thing and keeping it hip hop

  • @theoriginalkilox7592
    @theoriginalkilox7592 Před 2 měsíci +1

    “In every competition, there are no winners or losers, only learners.”

  • @bumphaus
    @bumphaus Před 2 měsíci +1

    This why I fuck with Rob, his takes aren't catering to any one side. He says how they are, he also explains why he thinks so.

  • @ALEJANDRO35492
    @ALEJANDRO35492 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Rob I've been watching you since I was 16 back when u interviewed Desiigner. Keep up the great work! 🔥

    • @RobMarkman
      @RobMarkman  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Panda Panda Panda... that was a good interview. Thanks for rocking with me

    • @ALEJANDRO35492
      @ALEJANDRO35492 Před 2 měsíci

      @@RobMarkman Always bro! 🙏🏽🔥

  • @marquise7200
    @marquise7200 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Cole still has been out rapping Kendrick and Drake for the past 3 years.

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou Před 2 měsíci

      Ofc when Kendrick wasn't as active 😂

    • @marquise7200
      @marquise7200 Před 2 měsíci

      @@AngeBiampandou but it’s still fact we have to give him his flowers for that drake was active the whole time

  • @SEVYNTHEVILLAIN
    @SEVYNTHEVILLAIN Před 2 měsíci +1

    all you can do is laugh 😂😂😂 he just casted a dark shadow over whatever he drops next

  • @andydeossa
    @andydeossa Před 2 měsíci +1

    thanks for having an actual educated, leveled and factual take on this. speaking facts!

  • @JEtienneMusic
    @JEtienneMusic Před 2 měsíci

    Rob I love your well rounded points of view. We all have inherent bias and like what we like. There is and never will be a universal best in this art for. It is purely subjective. There has always been room for spirited competition especially as there are people who are better in certain technical aspescts of the craft than others whether it be wordplay, rhyme schemes, unique words used, approach to storytelling. Concsiousness or vulnerability, transperency. I jave slight push back and disagreement at being overtly bragadocio but not wanting to bring smoke where it has been levied upon you. For sureskies it's easier to talk about hyperbolic threats or opps or whatever but his feature run and verses been elevated so it will be difficult to hear that King, GOAT, God talk from him for a while. I respect Cole as the man he represents himself to me. Honestly that was the most mild peice of rapping on wax beef I ever remember, and I don't just mean by way of popular or mainstream emcees. I believe both Cole and Kendrick are greats, and legends and alongside Drake, K.R.I.T anybody else they all deserve to exist and garner as much support as hearts their music can speak to. It just feels a little ironic and disengenuin to claim the top spot, or say I've chased it for uears it don't matter no more and then when someone challenges that (friend or not) I'm not with it. I don't like violence and am tired to the disproportionate numbers of homicide in the rap community, but they never said each other's names. K Dot mainly came at Drake with Cole catching strays for teaming up and his big 3 line but saying he's numero uno and Muhammad Ali. I like that Cole's the people's champ. I don't think Kendrick's verse, by way of diss was all too hard and hope however it all shakes out they all continue forging their paths and dominating the lanes they set up for themselves.

  • @JM223
    @JM223 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I appreciate the video! It’s disappointing as a fan, but brother to brother I respect Cole’s stance. Great breakdown. 💪🏾

  • @thebeautifulgame433
    @thebeautifulgame433 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You can respect his honesty but if you move the way Cole has been moving, it's hypocritical to then apologize when it's time to get in the ring.

  • @rabbani9046
    @rabbani9046 Před 2 měsíci

    Let’s do a poll on whether you should stick with that name haha
    Great show Rob 🙏🏼

  • @maestrohiphop
    @maestrohiphop Před 2 měsíci +12

    Support the real hip hop heads not the vultures!!! Love this channel Rob 💯

  • @treymcd.5328
    @treymcd.5328 Před 2 měsíci +2

    😂 Homey has a list! Calling out comments. Hahaha. But on the real I like Cole. And Rob is RIGHT. Kendrick is my fave but saying Cole is garbage? Nah. Cole is a Jedi in rapper’s clothing bro! I legit respect that & honestly it makes me wanna listen to him more.

  • @ryanmcdaniels5014
    @ryanmcdaniels5014 Před 2 měsíci

    Another great take on this situation. I’m disappointed but I also understand his approach to this “beef”. The Big 3 conversation is officially over.

  • @roup123
    @roup123 Před 2 měsíci

    This is my first time ever seen one of your videos are coming across your channel and you have the best take on what happened J Cole has the same birthday that my son has and my heart was broken when I heard this man back down to Kendrick. Because Kendrick seems to be one punch man I'm getting real f****** tired of people not going at him like they should but I really didn't want it to be J Cole either J Cole is actually better than Kendrick and Drake combined because he can take both of their Styles and murder them with it but I don't think he knows that.

  • @byronbullock5537
    @byronbullock5537 Před 2 měsíci +4

    You made some valid points however my problem with j Cole and the unnamed is that some of the stuff Cole says can clearly be attributed to someone or someone can take it that way. Another thing is Nas clearly doesn’t perform ether anymore cause he no longer stands by that record. Cole could’ve took that route. He could’ve simply deleted the record quietly and moved on. I think if the response to the record was different he wouldn’t have been affected by it. Last thing I don’t want to hear anymore I’m the best or if a rapper would bars from when the opportunity is there to match up with your closest peer was there and you ran from it. Nah I’m cool on that .

  • @ISOMCOC98
    @ISOMCOC98 Před 2 měsíci +1

    LMAO! Man came with receipts 🤣🤣 that’s awesome

  • @joeyhenderson1624
    @joeyhenderson1624 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Respect u heavy rob, doin your own thing now.