From Manager to Director: Guide to Managing Managers

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  • čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
  • Level-up Engineering Podcast episode 56: From Manager to Director: Guide to Managing Managers - Interview with Mike Seavers (VP of Online Development, Epic Games)
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    In this interview we're covering:
    -Differences between managing ICs and managing managers
    -Story of transitioning from manager to director
    -Necessary skills to managing managers
    -Common mistakes of new directors
    -Warning signs for new directors
    -Choosing from director candidates
    -Support from executive leaders to new directors
    -Story of coaching a director new to managing managers
    -Bonus advice to managing managers
    Excerpt from the interview:
    "I first became a director and started managing managers about 17 years ago. My team consisted of five sub-teams, about 50 people combined, and I had six or seven managers reporting to me. We were going through an Agile transformation.
    I spent all my time focusing internally, working with my team. I attended stand-ups, we were teaching Scrum and we were introducing new tooling to manage the Agile process. We changed our release method and other internal processes.
    I was proud of what we managed to accomplish, but when it came time for performance reviews, I received the worst review of my career. My peers and everyone around me outside my team said in their feedback that they had no relationship with me. They didn’t know what I was doing, they just saw me making changes in engineering without involving the leaders of the project management team, the release management team, or the QA team."

Komentáře • 48

  • @sesvx0
    @sesvx0 Před 30 minutami

    if not the most useful and insightful content on the eng manager -> director transition. wish Mike would publish more stuff.

  • @oasisfullfilled7617
    @oasisfullfilled7617 Před 4 dny

    This is a great interview. His perspective is very enlightening

  • @nitsnik
    @nitsnik Před měsícem +1

    Great to hear you Mike! More practical than ideal talks (very rare these days specially in front of camera).

  • @whitewolfstudios4727
    @whitewolfstudios4727 Před 2 lety +24

    It's so refreshing to see someone being totally honest, and I can agree with him on many levels. I recently got hired at a company and after I passed the interview, the VP suddenly promoted me to Director with a salary bump, and as thankful as I am to this person, I was feeling a bit scared to jump into the role so suddenly. I think this video gave me a lot of useful pointers and a bit more confidence to try my best at the new role, so thanks very much :)

    • @kcrl
      @kcrl Před 2 lety

      Qap

    • @MrTeslaX
      @MrTeslaX Před rokem

      how is it going, Sir!

    • @FancyKarolina
      @FancyKarolina Před rokem +2

      It's been 10 month! Do you have an update for us about your engagements? :)

  • @sumzero5857
    @sumzero5857 Před 2 lety +9

    Appreciate the transparency of lessons learned through failure. Biggest value!

  • @igrai
    @igrai Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent interview! So many learnings, esp. of the errors to look out for

  • @freddymaccheese
    @freddymaccheese Před 7 měsíci

    This was an amazing interview. I will be rewatching for sure

  • @Positivelysierra222
    @Positivelysierra222 Před rokem +1

    So many golden nuggets!! 😊 thanks Mike

  • @williammanana1067
    @williammanana1067 Před 4 měsíci

    Sounds very genuine and truthful. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @edwardpinto7905
    @edwardpinto7905 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the candid no BS tips and for sharing your experience in your tech leadership journey

  • @deepakcs2001
    @deepakcs2001 Před rokem +1

    Very useful video, many takeaways for managers to transition to new Director leadership role.

  • @davu6712
    @davu6712 Před 7 měsíci

    thanks for this! Great to hear your perspectives

  • @dmytroprokopenko1472
    @dmytroprokopenko1472 Před 9 měsíci

    Great talk, thanks!

  • @millermiaotianzhang
    @millermiaotianzhang Před 8 měsíci

    First 90 days is amazing!

  • @aprilleamoroso7860
    @aprilleamoroso7860 Před rokem +6

    About what Mike mentioned about communication, there is more into that. As Directors, we have to not just communicate, but effectively articulate our thoughts in a way that we can influence our listeners.

  • @CyKoS100
    @CyKoS100 Před 6 měsíci

    Learned a lot and I'm from manufacturing industry as a Production Supervisor. Thank you!

    • @FancyKarolina
      @FancyKarolina Před 5 měsíci

      It is so great to hear that some of this (or maybe most) is applicable across industries! 🙏😊

  • @kduy14
    @kduy14 Před rokem

    thanks for sharing, i am really interested in these kinds of topic

  • @DeanDavisMarketing
    @DeanDavisMarketing Před rokem

    Mike is such a cool dude !!!

  • @JayPatel101
    @JayPatel101 Před měsícem

    In working at Big 4, you get and do well as director when you manage up. You also got a opportunity because of your ability to schmooze. I was told directly by a donut boy that my abilities are not going to help me get ahead. And as interviewee said, he had to switch the company to get the bump. Of course also being in the right place at the right time. It's not rocket science to have this role.

  • @MightyNicM
    @MightyNicM Před 5 měsíci

    Learned quite a bit from this, thank you!!

    • @FancyKarolina
      @FancyKarolina Před 5 měsíci

      I am so happy to hear that! Thanks for sharing! 😊🫶

  • @jamesoyowe8316
    @jamesoyowe8316 Před rokem

    Wow you are so honest

  • @KenWeiG
    @KenWeiG Před rokem +1

    I’m currently a manager but I don’t attend daily and managing people in working level… in fact I am behaving like what a director is behaving most of the time.

  • @aprilleamoroso7860
    @aprilleamoroso7860 Před rokem +3

    In my perspective, as a Director, Time Management is just the second on your list. The first thing is Priority Management. If you prioritize effectively, you'll be able to produce more valuable outcome within a shorter time

  • @newjdm
    @newjdm Před rokem +1

    So if you’re not agreeing to promote someone, should you be prepared to lose them?
    How would you weigh replacing/training a new hire in their place?

  • @TheKWAMEMENSAH
    @TheKWAMEMENSAH Před 4 měsíci

    Amazing

  • @zuowang5185
    @zuowang5185 Před 5 měsíci

    whole hearted disaggree with his 52:25 point

  • @aprilleamoroso7860
    @aprilleamoroso7860 Před rokem +1

    Mike is great in providing information but the interviewer is not connecting.
    May I ask, im relation to what you have mentioned about how you fail as a first time Director, what did you do to make that right and improve your numbers?

  • @tonya3308
    @tonya3308 Před rokem +1

    This is by far the best video regarding this topic. Karolina did a great job of asking questions and letting Mike talk. Great job!

  • @rick-zee
    @rick-zee Před rokem +3

    Thanks for this interview! Would you be able to share the list of books Mike Seavers had read?

    • @lvlupeng
      @lvlupeng  Před rokem +1

      Hi!
      There are a few great books highlighted in the blog posts covering his interviews:
      codingsans.com/blog/managing-managers
      codingsans.com/blog/self-managed-teams

    • @rick-zee
      @rick-zee Před rokem +1

      @@lvlupeng thanks much!

  • @sharnie528
    @sharnie528 Před rokem

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @zuowang5185
    @zuowang5185 Před 5 měsíci +1

    how do you weed out incompetent people who were previously at leadership persitions in well known companies, and all they do is talk? like ex-CTO of Riot, or ex-CEO of paypal. You kick them out and they just go be a director somewhere else

  • @andyc178
    @andyc178 Před 11 měsíci +5

    the interviewer was kinda mid. mike's responses were golden tho

    • @FancyKarolina
      @FancyKarolina Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hi! It’d be great if you could give some constructive feedback, I am always looking to improve! 😊

    • @firastounsi6402
      @firastounsi6402 Před měsícem +2

      @@FancyKarolinaFollow-up on answers, challenge some of them with deep-in questions, build a logic story into your narrative/your questions, you don’t have to tell the interviewee how great his answer was after each answer .. that’s some of ad-hoc the tips after watching half of the video

    • @FancyKarolina
      @FancyKarolina Před měsícem

      @@firastounsi6402 thank you for taking the time to write this down!

  • @ahsanmohammed1
    @ahsanmohammed1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great guest. Great info. Horrible mic used by host.

    • @lvlupeng
      @lvlupeng  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Hey there! Thank you for your feedback, please check out our fresh episodes, we have seriously upgraded since then 🙌🏻

  • @aprilleamoroso7860
    @aprilleamoroso7860 Před rokem +2

    Hiring and Firing as per what Mike said, is a responsibility of the HR Team. Directors are data people. We analyze data and act based on our analysis. If the action required is to fire or hire, we coordinate and discuss with the process owners, who in this case are HR peeps.

  • @maxmeattle3376
    @maxmeattle3376 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This guy is a bad manager and a very toxic leader. The reason to connect with other peers and managers is so that 1) You can make them successful, and 2) They can make your team more succesful, thus making them more effective and the company more effective. Instead, this persons company and they themselves are just focused on ‘knowing people’ and ‘optics’. Terrible manager, terrible training and he will not be a person we hire in any company

    • @2amtv
      @2amtv Před měsícem

      Nothing he said contradicted either of your points.

  • @pditty8811
    @pditty8811 Před rokem +3

    Great interviewee, interviewer seems disengaged.