MV Doña Paz: The Deadliest Maritime Disaster in History

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • This is one of those events that you probably should have heard of, but your history textbook made other choices.
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Komentáře • 840

  • @pOpCoRn0531
    @pOpCoRn0531 Před 3 lety +154

    Titanic: not enough lifeboats for passengers.
    Doña Paz: not enough ship for passengers.

    • @FlyingEndeavor
      @FlyingEndeavor Před rokem +9

      No working radio on board either... The Titanic at least had a means of long range communication.. the Dona Paz had none.. Vector also did not have a working radio.. Unbelievable to think... Two ships sailing in 1987 had no working radios whilst a ship sailing in 1912 had at least working long range communications equipment.. How was Dona Paz cleared to sail without a working radio and being overloaded to capacity... -_-

  • @johnpaullimbo7059
    @johnpaullimbo7059 Před 3 lety +369

    I live in Mindoro Island, one of the islands that surround Tablas Strait where Doña Paz sank. I was born a year after but my grandpa used to tell me that they avoided eating fish for a year after the disaster because of the rumors that many of the bodies were eaten by fish because many of those who died were never recovered. There were even stories that rings, earrings, bracelets, necklaces were found inside bellies of fish caught around the area where the disaster happened.

    • @vovozacodmobile3659
      @vovozacodmobile3659 Před 3 lety +51

      Rings and shoe laces were actually found in some fish after that

    • @IdontSkipAds
      @IdontSkipAds Před 3 lety +14

      Oh myy

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Před 3 lety +12

      Yup, I have heard about that.

    • @josadehaplas9391
      @josadehaplas9391 Před 3 lety +26

      During large typhoons in the area, whenever there are casualties, my parents forbade us to eat seafoods. My dad, when he was still alive, never ate squid at all.

    • @rice6682
      @rice6682 Před 3 lety +11

      the fire from the ship was seen from lemery batangas.

  • @reina_harhar7815
    @reina_harhar7815 Před 2 lety +112

    One of the survivors is a man who sells umbrellas and lives in our town. According to him, he was surrounded by fire when he swam up after he got pushed on the water from the crowd. He lost his wife after he fell and had several burn marks from the flames, he was able to survive because he was splashing the water around the flaming parts to prevent himself from inhaling more fumes until he found a wood to get on. Then he said that he was surrounded by bodies who disappeared seconds later and that's when he knew that the sharks were already having a feast. He passed away a few years ago, he has lived all by himself to mourn for his wife's loss year after year.

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong Před rokem

      I fcking respect people like that....who stay loyal beyond death.
      I hate how everyone always re-marries. I look down on that alot. Pure Hedonism. Marriage for pure pleasure is just sick imo.
      Marriage should only be for people who plan to have kids--you have all the fun in the world and do whatever you want-but the reason you got there needs to be for kids ...this is how it is done in places and times where divorce rates aren't 60% to 95%.
      Nevermind the fact that you would just be contributing to the further degradation of the institution, and you'd be a complete S#MP for it anyway for getting married for such pointless reasons.

    • @edmundpower1250
      @edmundpower1250 Před rokem +3

      Are you telling the truth? First you say he lives in your town selling umbrellas and later you say he died a few years ago.

    • @kkkkkk1946
      @kkkkkk1946 Před rokem +4

      @@edmundpower1250 no, I guess he meant he USED to sell umbrellas

    • @michaelw6277
      @michaelw6277 Před rokem +8

      @@edmundpower1250english isn’t everyone’s first language

  • @dubyadotkings
    @dubyadotkings Před 3 lety +864

    Just to be clear the sinking of the MV Doña Paz was the deadliest *PEACETIME* maritime disaster.

    • @Hi11is
      @Hi11is Před 3 lety +19

      Deadliest, ever.

    • @n8th899
      @n8th899 Před 3 lety +112

      @@Hi11is wilhelm gustloff is deadliest overall

    • @Hi11is
      @Hi11is Před 3 lety +66

      @@n8th899
      You're right, the source I used separated WWII sinkings and I didn't notice, there were eight maritime disasters more deadly than this one during WWII.

    • @whateves5369
      @whateves5369 Před 3 lety +5

      I was wondering. Cause I thought the ship that exploded in the Huston harbor in the early 1900's was the worst.

    • @dubyadotkings
      @dubyadotkings Před 3 lety +6

      @@n8th899 couldn't argue with that but my point is this pertains to peacetime. I mean there are a lot of sinkings worse than Doña Paz but those occurred during wartime.

  • @aljimjamessescon
    @aljimjamessescon Před 3 lety +111

    The company has been involved in 45 maritime accidents between 1980 to 2008, with the last one on June 21, 2008 with allegedly about 800 passengers declared dead or missing. The company then decided to just focus on cargo and then changed the name.

    • @randomly_random_0
      @randomly_random_0 Před 2 lety +17

      that last one was the MV Princess of the Stars right? that tipped over and turned upside down during a typhoon, trapping 800 people on board and drowning them to death.

    • @proactiveomnipresentvessel6569
      @proactiveomnipresentvessel6569 Před 2 lety +9

      Most known ones were Doña Paz, Doña Marylin, Princess of the Orient, Princess of the World, and the last one that lost them their passenger transport privileges Princess of the Stars

    • @MrJlaklak
      @MrJlaklak Před rokem +10

      Despite they are now cargo shipping company, they still cause accident for 2go MV Thomas Aquinas

    • @rolandnewman7831
      @rolandnewman7831 Před rokem +1

      ​@@proactiveomnipresentvessel6569

  • @grapesofwrath1984
    @grapesofwrath1984 Před 3 lety +29

    Sulpicio was forced to “change name” because they were no longer allowed to operate after several other tragedies. Yes, that wasn’t even the last one.
    Interesting how that works. The company is banned from operating ships, but the people who own the company can just form another company.
    They’re no longer in the passenger business though. And Philippine maritime safety record has dramatically improved since then.

  • @andreitt
    @andreitt Před 3 lety +75

    I remember the shipping company gained a notorious moniker, "Suspicious Lines."

  • @rl8571
    @rl8571 Před 3 lety +71

    There was alot of anger generated during this event but since a high majority of the passengers were in low social economic status, it was
    quicky forgotten.

  • @danilovesstrings
    @danilovesstrings Před 3 lety +198

    As a Filipino, it still breaks my heart everytime I read or hear about this Tragedy. I hate calling this tragedy an accident because the company murdered these people. Their negligence was murderous.

    • @millennialwaffen1382
      @millennialwaffen1382 Před 3 lety +1

      Walang may pake

    • @justinallen9104
      @justinallen9104 Před 3 lety +23

      @@millennialwaffen1382 it got your attention...hmm...

    • @94monks50
      @94monks50 Před 3 lety +11

      @@millennialwaffen1382 bakit ka nag comment?🤫

    • @justinmatthewa5393
      @justinmatthewa5393 Před 3 lety +6

      @@millennialwaffen1382 tanga

    • @Mochrie99
      @Mochrie99 Před 3 lety +15

      It's absolutely disgusting, and I truly am flabbergasted that I have never heard of this. I was 12 around the time it happened. I assume it got lots of global coverage, I don't know how I'd never read or seen anything. How horrific!

  • @homeric29
    @homeric29 Před 3 lety +51

    My aunt was supposed to have taken Doña Paz on that fateful day and in fact her name is listed in the passenger manifest. Thankfully, by some circumstance or other, she wasn't able to go through with her trip and avoided being a statistic.

    • @axcelplegino6228
      @axcelplegino6228 Před 2 lety +1

      What's her reaction when the Dona Paz collided with another ship

    • @homeric29
      @homeric29 Před 2 lety +5

      @@axcelplegino6228 I was told that her name was actually on the ship's manifest (the passenger list) but she didn't find out about the disaster until about a day or two afterwards and I can only imagine the shock and horror she felt after learning about her narrow miss mixed in with the intense gratitude for having been spared the ordeal that claimed the lives of thousands.

  • @carjac820
    @carjac820 Před 3 lety +10

    The sinking of Dona Paz is just the beginning of the Sulpicio Lines misfortunes. They have involved in numerous disasters that only results in small number of survivors after that. The last disaster they have is when the current company's cargo ship collided with a ferry ship that resulted in more than 50 deaths.

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin Před 3 lety +15

    Unlike the Titanic that sank in the middle the ocean, this happened in a populated area, bodies were washing up on the shores of nearby villages and getting tangled in villagers fishing nets for weeks afterwards.

  • @adalan20
    @adalan20 Před 3 lety +16

    i was young then when it happen , and all of the price of all fish products was drop , my mother told me no one wanted to buy fish for the whole month because of the dead bodies floating for every parts of every islands nearest from the scene , squid , cattlefish alike are those forviden to eat said by the phil coast guard because they say in the interview that those creatures are the ones that feed on the dead bodies floating in the sea.

  • @reconteam91
    @reconteam91 Před 3 lety +23

    Sulpicio Line was known as Suspicious Line because of so many of its ships sinking or breaking down. Blood is still on the hands of its owners, regardless of changing its name.

  • @filvasaylaje5683
    @filvasaylaje5683 Před 3 lety +86

    Sulpicio Lines Inc. was dubbed as the shipping coffin by the local media because of its 45 incidents which resulted the tragic events althrought its 40 years of operation forcing its family owners to switch its company name to Philippine Span Asia Carrier Corp. and also changing services from passenger to freight services.

    • @tiercel5561
      @tiercel5561 Před 3 lety +4

      I've actually ridden a few of thier ships bound for Puerto Princesa where one of the tragic incidents happened. At least, it was just the boat that sank with little to no casualties.
      Even then, I think people thought that it would be better to go there by plane.

    • @alitheakorogane
      @alitheakorogane Před 2 lety +1

      But apparently, even though they changed their name, they were still involved in another tragic accident involving 2GO's MV St. Thomas Aquinas in 2013. Their cargo ship named MV Sulpicio Express Siete crashed unto the passenger vessel in Cebu, causing it to sink.

    • @nikkolodian9517
      @nikkolodian9517 Před rokem +1

      @@alitheakorogane yes, I remember that in the news. Sad that many people perished in that tragedy. May those souls rest in peace.

  • @FourOf92000
    @FourOf92000 Před 2 lety +9

    for the record, the ship that rescued those few who survived the _Doña Paz_ sinking was named MS _Don Claudio._

  • @shawnkeith1164
    @shawnkeith1164 Před 3 lety +420

    The sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff took nearly twice as many lives, and is also largely unknown.

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, I don't know 🤷‍♂️

    • @pompeygerry
      @pompeygerry Před 3 lety +38

      Shawn Keith- You beat me to it, Estimates for the Wilhelm Gustloff was up to 11,000 lost.

    • @carstenhuitsingh2239
      @carstenhuitsingh2239 Před 3 lety +38

      And the SS Steuben and the freighter Goya. Also the freighter Cap Arcona who had Pow's on board and was attacked by British bombers. I'm not saying it wasn't a tragedy wat happened to the Doña Paz, but this was a ship in peace time and the passengers boarded voluntary, knowing it was overcrowded. Being torpedoed by a Russian submarine when you just survived those same Russians and the deadliest winters in living memory has between 50.000+ and 100.000+ people there lives. Because they were Germans no one cared, but there deaths must be remembered just as all the soldiers who gave their lives for that case.

    • @whitlatch1999
      @whitlatch1999 Před 3 lety +7

      I think worst here is referring to the fact that there wasn't enough lifejackets (or any in this case), 7x to many people, the crew wasn't helping, the captain had no clue what was happening, oil was spilled, there was fire?????, I can see the reasoning for this being the worst but not the most fatal

    • @annegrey3780
      @annegrey3780 Před 3 lety +40

      was just about to comment that MV Dona Paz is the worst peacetime* maritime disaster, there are at least 6 disasters that were worse in WW2:
      The Wilhelm Gustloff
      Goya
      Armenia
      Junyō Maru
      Toyama Maru
      Ryusei Maru

  • @davidmcconnell1074
    @davidmcconnell1074 Před 3 lety +5

    Sulpicio wasn’t finished after the Dona Paz. Her sister ship M/V Dona Marilyn went down with 400 souls in a typhoon the following year.

    • @theobuniel9643
      @theobuniel9643 Před rokem +1

      And then there was MV Princess of the Stars in 2008. That was EVERYWHERE in the news when I was a kid.

  • @ianmorris7485
    @ianmorris7485 Před 3 lety +11

    For anyone who has ever travelled on a Filipino ship or ferry on internal routes, what happened on the Dona Paz would hardly be a surprise. Some of the poorest safety records in the world and safety regulations that are a joke.

  • @dalekidd420
    @dalekidd420 Před 3 lety +66

    I actually remember this in the news at the time it happened. It really doesn't surprise me that no fault was ever found. In that part of the world, bribery is king, and everyone in the public service is for sale. What does surprise me, I suppose, is that the executives of that company were not simply lynched.

    • @hoyden1960
      @hoyden1960 Před 3 lety +1

      Kinda like the USA

    • @pdenigma9444
      @pdenigma9444 Před 3 lety +11

      Nowadays that stuff isn’t tolerated, the coast guards hands out violations whenever a ferry is overboard. But President Cory Aquino, the president at the time, was corrupt af, so it was not surprising that they got away.

    • @mnm2156
      @mnm2156 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pdenigma9444 hah. Let's not get this thread overrun 😂

    • @pdenigma9444
      @pdenigma9444 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mnm2156 Will be interesting to see the debate war that might spark out xD

    • @millennialwaffen1382
      @millennialwaffen1382 Před 3 lety

      @@pdenigma9444 Oh please my grandfathers toilet got clogged up in 1989 was it Cory fault?

  • @SELoggOff
    @SELoggOff Před 3 lety +95

    Simon: Because this company still exists, and we don't want to get sued; all of this is "fully alleged".
    Business Blaze is slowly creeping into all facets of Simons "Fact Boi" empire.....

  • @pjv9361
    @pjv9361 Před 3 lety +14

    Dude I'm from the Philippines. This really happened. Sad to see because the passengers here are usually the "poorest of the poor".
    Our school immersion trip requires us to take a trip on a ship like this with a third class ticket in order to be able to experience extreme poverty and to build empathy.

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname Před 3 lety +45

    The word maru (丸, meaning "circle") is often attached to Japanese ship names. ... The term maru is used in divination and represents perfection or completeness, or the ship as "a small world of its own". The myth of Hakudo Maru, a celestial being that came to earth and taught humans how to build ships.
    Had to look that up after seeing the name on a few ships from Japan.

    • @MichChief
      @MichChief Před 3 lety +6

      I had read that the reason Japanese ship names use the term "maru" is that like a circle, they will end at the same position that they started....meaning they are blessed with a safe voyage and will return to their original port. I am certainly no expert....just relaying what I have read.

  • @VinzCo
    @VinzCo Před 3 lety +27

    Sulpicio is pronounced like "suspicious", that's why the joke here is the company was known as Suspicious Lines

  • @ForgiveUsAll
    @ForgiveUsAll Před 3 lety +68

    My Grand mother, auntie and uncle died in this tragedy. And their bodies were never recovered.

  • @UnderTension
    @UnderTension Před 3 lety +19

    A video on the MV Wilhelm Gustloff sinking would seem a good natural follow up to this, being the deadliest wartime shipping disaster.

  • @xcaliber7779
    @xcaliber7779 Před 3 lety +12

    In naval academies and maritime schools they discuss this incident as a cautionary lesson to would be mariners. Even months after the incident they were still gathering bodies in Tablas Strait and nearby islands. They label this as Asia's Titanic.

  • @devstar3429
    @devstar3429 Před 3 lety +7

    According to what I heard, My Lola and Aunty (father's mother and sister) were supposed to board there to visit my father in Manila, but for some reason weren't able to. Since there's no such thing as cellphone back then he didn't know they were unable to board (the "telegrama" took several weeks to reach it's destination).. When he learned of the disaster he was among those who went to identify the bodies of their loved ones. He couldn't find their bodies, he assumed they were lost in the sea.. I can only imagine his relief when he learned they weren't able to board the ship that day. My parents haven't even met yet at that time.

  • @Mochrie99
    @Mochrie99 Před 3 lety +5

    It's insane that given the horrific death toll, that I've never heard of this disaster, even though it only happened less than 35 years ago.

  • @isaacmelgar9647
    @isaacmelgar9647 Před 3 lety +105

    As Filipino, I am genuinely concerned and disgusted that this company is still afloat (unlike many of their other ships)

    • @gc7673
      @gc7673 Před 3 lety +11

      lol really? you might be surprised that a lot of the shipping companies in the Philippines are owned by the same family (the Go's) or related to them. does that disgust extend to them? if so you might forever consider avoiding travel by sea in ph :D

    • @isaacmelgar9647
      @isaacmelgar9647 Před 3 lety +11

      @@gc7673 Well yes it does, my family has always used Super Ferry or 2GO if we travel by sea. The thing that disgusts me the most is that these are detailed, well publicised incidents which have been circulated in the media for years and yet due to their wealth and connections, nothing has been done to improve their safety records or tighten the regulations about ship maintenance, crew training and even passenger safety

    • @christiancleofas7451
      @christiancleofas7451 Před 3 lety

      @@gc7673 the family of bong go?

    • @gc7673
      @gc7673 Před 3 lety +4

      @@christiancleofas7451 i have no idea if bong go is related to the shipping tycoons that own psacc and their sister companies.

    • @michaelurgelles937
      @michaelurgelles937 Před 3 lety +13

      You can express your opinion without telling us you're a Filipino. Annoying af

  • @fritz1990
    @fritz1990 Před 3 lety +34

    Sadly, there are a lot of incidents like this that people don't know about.

    • @Joesmoothdog
      @Joesmoothdog Před 3 lety +9

      People know about them but they're not sexy enough for the media. If the Titanic had been carrying 4000 African, Irish, Chinese and Indian factory workers would there have been one movie ever made?

    • @hyljix
      @hyljix Před 3 lety +2

      Like the sinking of the M/S Estonia

    • @hyljix
      @hyljix Před 3 lety +4

      @jayzee a lot of people know about the Sewol ferry already because of the documentary

    • @hyljix
      @hyljix Před 3 lety +1

      @jayzee look up the m/s estonia too

    • @donnamariedavidson5065
      @donnamariedavidson5065 Před 3 lety

      I didn't even know about this one and I'm glad I watched this. My goodness, this left me so sad.

  • @tankshot3256
    @tankshot3256 Před 3 lety +26

    Alas her sister ship Dona Marilyn sunk also during a typhoon a year after.

  • @tjriddley9078
    @tjriddley9078 Před 3 lety +247

    I’d love to see a video about the Edmund Fitzgerald 💜

    • @krisk6954
      @krisk6954 Před 3 lety +11

      I'm pretty sure he's done one on one of his other channels maybe history highlights I swear I've seen a video about that from him

    • @sassykaren7587
      @sassykaren7587 Před 3 lety +4

      Tj Riddley I would enjoy that as well. I was just a kid when the song about the Edmund Fitzgerald came out. As I got older, I began learning about what happened to it. I really hope that Simon will make a video about that.

    • @andrewsweet8583
      @andrewsweet8583 Před 3 lety +13

      @@sassykaren7587 There's a 1000 vid on youtube about that

    • @ntsst3
      @ntsst3 Před 3 lety +4

      I agree. In the meantime you can listen to the song!

    • @kathy6803
      @kathy6803 Před 3 lety

      Look for it

  • @rblovenyoto1303
    @rblovenyoto1303 Před 3 lety +4

    MV Doña Paz is happened in Mindoro strait or it is called tablas strait. I remembered that we avoid eating fish even sqiuds atleast for a year.

  • @kswsquared
    @kswsquared Před 3 lety +9

    You should also do one on the MV Princess of the Stars. Decades apart, different circumstances but still in the same stretch of water.

    • @CriticalMaster95
      @CriticalMaster95 Před 3 lety +3

      Also they were both operated by the same company, Sulpicio Lines (nicknamed Suspicious Lines).

  • @jesusbeloved3953
    @jesusbeloved3953 Před 3 lety +3

    You did a very good job delivering the story of this ship, Simon. Several years ago, the History Channel did a piece about it. I’d forgotten just how horrific a tragedy it was. How very, very senseless.

  • @gerivega
    @gerivega Před 3 lety +7

    As a Filipino, I glad that there are videos like this. This happened 32 years ago so a lot has changed. Tragedies like this should be remembered so we can improve and not make the same mistakes. Do you think the over loading of the ship was done only one time? Of course not. It has been done for several days and years but it only sank once. Oil tanker without a license is that common in other parts of the world?

    • @courageousteen1734
      @courageousteen1734 Před 3 lety

      I don’t think so , most of Shipping line in country overload its ship especially during peak season.

  • @simonjames9481
    @simonjames9481 Před 3 lety +27

    MV Dona Paz
    Deathtoll- 4,386 (some says its more than 5000)
    Survivors- 25

    • @pauloravena1298
      @pauloravena1298 Před 3 lety

      Are you on crack?

    • @exio6241
      @exio6241 Před 3 lety +9

      @@pauloravena1298 its true dude only 25 or 26 survivors

    • @lonelyguy688
      @lonelyguy688 Před 3 lety

      are you on crack? even Titanic can't carry that count of passengers lmao

    • @pauloravena1298
      @pauloravena1298 Před 3 lety +8

      @@lonelyguy688 well I too doubt it but then again we are talking about Philippines here. Even today buses and other public service vehicles are always full like literally even there's even an couple of inch spaces they'll still accept passengers. This kind of behaviour should be stop at our country its no excuse even its a 3rd world country and theyll say they do it for extra income. Peoples lives are at stake.

    • @pauloravena1298
      @pauloravena1298 Před 3 lety +3

      @@lonelyguy688 correction it change cause of the pandemic

  • @endoftheworld29
    @endoftheworld29 Před 3 lety +12

    I love it when Simon is pronouncing Sulpicio in a Italian accent. 😅 Anway, yeah I lived around where the ship sank and we stopped eating fish for a month or so since the we found rings and buttons inside the belly of the fishes that were caught around the area. One of my neighbor was lucky enough to eat a fish that ate a button. Probably that fish ate the bodies of trap victims inside the vessel.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 Před 3 lety +5

    0:50 - Chapter 1 - Lady peace
    3:05 - Chapter 2 - Fire in the sea
    6:50 - Chapter 3 - The aftermath of tragedy

  • @andreaslermen2008
    @andreaslermen2008 Před 3 lety +5

    Besides the Wilhelm Gustloff, there were also the Goya, Steuben and Cap Arcona, all sunk at the end of the Second World War in the Baltic.
    The main tragedy of the Dona Paz: that one was avoidable.

    • @jarryclark4179
      @jarryclark4179 Před 3 lety +3

      He meant; The Worst Maritime Disaster during "Peacetime"

    • @TheKweenII_09
      @TheKweenII_09 Před 2 lety +1

      @ not misleading, MV Doña Paz sinking was the worst peacetime maritime disaster, fella

    • @TheKweenII_09
      @TheKweenII_09 Před 2 lety

      @ sometimes MV Doña Paz sinking was called Asia' Titanic

  • @castertroy2649
    @castertroy2649 Před 3 lety +6

    way back 90s when travelling on land to Visayas, I always see grave crosses on some cliffs and shore lines... I was told that those were erected by families who lost their member(s) on the Dona Paz..

  • @mikegrazick1795
    @mikegrazick1795 Před 3 lety +12

    At sea, no one is truly safe. The sea remembers its own.

    • @kam70111
      @kam70111 Před 3 lety +2

      True. It remembers me too but my time has yet not come.

  • @Gifulas
    @Gifulas Před 3 lety +192

    You could make a disaster channel and expand the Whistler CZcams Empire!

  • @pixelkatten
    @pixelkatten Před 3 lety +9

    The expression "Charlie Foxtrot" comes to mind.

  • @jannabiklt
    @jannabiklt Před 3 lety +5

    I remember this only from my Father's Stories. My Grandmother (Father's mother) and one of my Uncle almost got into this ship. Fortunately, they cancelled their trip or got delayed. Forgot the reason.

  • @rolanalcantara5430
    @rolanalcantara5430 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for covering this event (I guess). Not really sure why it's on this channel as I don't recall any other video from this one that covers similar tragedies. Perhaps, you should open another channel around disasters and calamities as another has suggested? In any case, I thought this story was handled well. I'm only sad that this had to be the video that puts a spotlight on my country, but then again - negligence is not uncommon here (I'll leave it at that). I'm a big fan of most of your channels, keep it up.

  • @iamshemite
    @iamshemite Před 3 lety +5

    I remembered this tragedy , i was about 6 to 7 yrs old .. my father used to bring to his work place in a boadcast station , and saw the whiteboard on the side the pictures of victims and names of passengers that missing.. it was true that it was over its capacity and so many pssengers wc are not on the manifest ..

  • @borisxanovavich4466
    @borisxanovavich4466 Před 3 lety +4

    I live in a place where many of the victims were from. At a time where many were already on hard times, this was another tragedy that really put a damper on things. A festival where we wear smiling masks was made in order to distract people from the sinking. It worked a lot. The local economy got started again, and the sinking was quickly out of daily gossip. We still hold the festival even today (no festival this year, pandemic and all that).

  • @oldman975
    @oldman975 Před 3 lety +3

    You should do a video on the Sultana,a Mississippi riverboat. It’s boilers exploded and the ship sank with around 1,200 lost in 1865. It’s the largest maritime disaster in US history.

  • @notimportant1542
    @notimportant1542 Před 3 lety +8

    MV Doña Paz also known as Asia's Titanic

  • @bradley163
    @bradley163 Před 3 lety

    Well, that bummed me out. Thanks, Simon!

  • @samsungtesz2193
    @samsungtesz2193 Před 3 lety +1

    U talk about this tragic event in this video.
    Cool stuff Mr. Whistler 🤩👍

  • @kamagoong
    @kamagoong Před 2 lety +1

    Had some relatives die in the Doña Paz.
    That ship has become a source of countless ghost stories and urban legends.

  • @therealtalk4927
    @therealtalk4927 Před 3 lety +18

    “The Titanic of Asia”

    • @tiercel5561
      @tiercel5561 Před 3 lety +2

      And it was well deserved to be called as such for the shakedown it made on the passenger ship industry. It's not perfect, but hey, it's safer on the seas now.

  • @cannon0587
    @cannon0587 Před 3 lety +2

    I was just thinking yesterday u should do the doña Paz. Thank u

  • @AndrewJohnYoung
    @AndrewJohnYoung Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this video

  • @juliusc1331
    @juliusc1331 Před 3 lety +2

    Not that Sulpicio lines license to ferry passengers was finally revoked years later after several more accidents. They changed thier name and started only shipping cargo but still got into another accident. :-(

  • @mariobalindan110
    @mariobalindan110 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for featuring this Simon, I'm from Philippines

  • @kyaobet88
    @kyaobet88 Před 3 lety +3

    This is a sad tragedy in the history of the Philippines anyway ever since the Sulpicio line changes it's company name and it's operation from passenger to freight/cargo passenger shipping disasters with big casualties are now rare

  • @debbiekerr3989
    @debbiekerr3989 Před 3 lety +1

    I really enjoyed your video, and this terrible tragedy is something I never heard of.

  • @hoodlyfe6731
    @hoodlyfe6731 Před rokem

    Fact Boi your awesome, love you simon and everyone on your channels

  • @TheEvilCommenter
    @TheEvilCommenter Před 3 lety +4

    Good video 👍

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 3 lety +5

    Yeah I remember when it disaster took place and is even all the more horrible that most of these people burned alive and the death toll was much much higher than the Philippines government was willing to acknowledge. And only gave the people who were on the passenger list which is about 1500 the equivalent of about 300 American dollars in compensation. Although it is said to have been over 4,000 plus on the ship including a whole battalion of Filipino soldiers.

  • @jacques855
    @jacques855 Před 3 lety +11

    What do fighting the British for your nation's sovereignty, being one to the top students in the history of Cambridge, taking part in WWI and WW2, being part of the creation of the league of nations and the UN as well as being a close confident of Churchill all have in common? They were all done by Jan Smuts! Please do a video on him!

  • @tedthesailor172
    @tedthesailor172 Před 3 lety +3

    Well - he's right. I've never heard of it, but overcrowded ferry sinkings in the Philippines is fairly common...

  • @JTelli786
    @JTelli786 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the deadliest maritime disaster to occur during peace. The deadliest maritime disaster ever was the Wilhelm Gustloff which took an estimate of 9,600 lives after being struck by torpedoes from a Russian submarine.

  • @MoisesJrFurto
    @MoisesJrFurto Před 3 lety +6

    It wasn't just tragic. What happened to some of the survivors was horrific.

  • @Doggy-B
    @Doggy-B Před 2 lety

    A very accurate introduction Simon.
    Had indeed not heard of this tragedy until it was briefly mentioned, i am sad to say, on another channel.
    so I searched it and lo-and-behold.
    here I am.
    is there a topic u haven't covered on YT? 😂

  • @tur3xpa475
    @tur3xpa475 Před 3 lety +4

    Sulpicio Lines has many fatalities than their Competitors Which is Whilliam,Gothong,Negros & Aboitiz

  • @TheLoxxxton
    @TheLoxxxton Před 3 lety +7

    Those Craaazy Philippines man what a wild ride that must have been! Where do I sign up for the rush of a lifetime?

  • @harrismagalona9028
    @harrismagalona9028 Před 3 lety +2

    Another ship of their company sank at Manila Bay due to sailing their ship amidst of a typhoon warning MV Princess of the Orient

  • @wjcastillo0814
    @wjcastillo0814 Před 3 lety +7

    Odd Nukes that got created. The brits created a nuclear land mine that used chickens to keep it warm.

  • @raipo
    @raipo Před 3 lety +3

    This and the sinking of MV Princess of the Stars were really horrific

    •  Před 3 lety +2

      + other Philippine shipping sinking.

  • @CocoaBeachLiving
    @CocoaBeachLiving Před 3 lety +2

    Definitely surprised me too.. I appreciate you telling us about this terrible tragedy. Horrible

  • @Celisar1
    @Celisar1 Před 3 lety +1

    Simon, the probably deadliest disaster in naval history is not this one here but the sinking of the German ship Wilhelm Gustloff in January of 1945 by a Soviet submarine.
    The Wilhelm Gustloff was carrying a crew of 173 (naval armed forces auxiliaries), 918 officers, NCOs, and men of the 2 Unterseeboot-Lehrdivision, 373 female naval auxiliary helpers, 162 wounded soldiers, and 8,956 civilians, for a total of 10,582 passengers and crew.
    By one estimate 9,400 people died, which makes it the largest loss of life in a single ship sinking in history.

    • @randomly_random_0
      @randomly_random_0 Před 3 lety +1

      that was WARTIME, this Dona Paz sinking is during PEACETIME

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@randomly_random_0
      That doesn’t matter since it’s about naval history in general.
      Also it was mostly fleeing women and children who drowned or froze to death in the ice cold water.

  • @taun856
    @taun856 Před 3 lety +2

    While not having nearly as many fatalities (`98), The Yarmouth Castle is another tale of neglect and even cowardice by the Captain. (Like the Edmund Fitzgerald it was the subject of a Gordon Lightfoot song)

  • @michaelimbesi2314
    @michaelimbesi2314 Před 3 lety +3

    The incident wasn’t really Sulpicio Lines’ fault. The most likely explanation is that the Vector apparently had a pretty janky steering setup and the way the ship behaved confused the crew of the Doña Paz into thinking it wouldn’t collide with them

    • @DavidFMayerPhD
      @DavidFMayerPhD Před 3 lety +3

      So the fact that more than 4,000 persons were on a ship with room for 600 was an accident?

    • @CriticalMaster95
      @CriticalMaster95 Před 3 lety +2

      Honestly, both companies, Sulpicio Lines and Vector Shipping, were at fault. The Vector was unseaworthy and was operating without a license, lookout or qualified master. The Dona Paz was dangerously overcrowded, with over 4,000 people on board, and had a fake radio license.

    • @mrdojob
      @mrdojob Před rokem

      @@DavidFMayerPhD The fact that 4000 passengers decided to board, many ticketless when the ship was clearly overcrowded somehow is never spoken about. The crew of the Vector, Dona Paz AND passengers were at fault.

  • @FloozieOne
    @FloozieOne Před 6 měsíci

    I had heard of this disaster before but didn't realize the scale of it or the incredible number of casualties. To think only 26 of 4,600+ survived is just mind-blowing and to think of all those families eagerly awaiting holiday festivities with family and friends having a hole blown out of their hearts when they learned of the fate of their loved ones. When I was 15 I was caught in a gasoline explosion. I was pretty far away but I still got badly burned on the arm that was closest. The pain was absolutely exquisite and went on for over a year. I was lucky, the burn was treatable and I had excellent medical care but it took over 1 1/2 years before I regained full use of the arm. I have been terrified of fire ever since. Today, at 70 y/o, I am still ultra careful around anything that could catch fire.

  • @Holmes846
    @Holmes846 Před 3 lety +2

    I’d love to see a sideproject or megaproject video about marine salvage, more specifically Pearl Harbor or the Costa Concordia.

  • @anthonyC214
    @anthonyC214 Před 3 lety +1

    In the United States, we have 7 Maritime Colleges. If you are in the cadet program if must pass a 7 part US Coast Guard test. Fail two parts, you need to retake the entire exams several month later. If you pass , you get your 3rd mate license.
    If I go to sea, I would only sail on a US or GB flag vessels as it is well known you can not "buy" you license in either the US or GB.
    How do I know????my daughter graduated from State of NY Martime College .

  • @halowize
    @halowize Před 3 lety

    New subscriber love you all

  • @aldo90731
    @aldo90731 Před 3 lety +1

    The deadliest maritime disaster in history is supposed to be the Wilhelm Gustloff, torpedoed in the Baltic Sea by a Soviet submarine in winter of 1945. It is estimated to have been carrying 9,500 German refugees fleeing the advance of the Red Army. Only about one hundred people survived.

  • @JohnGuzik
    @JohnGuzik Před 3 lety +22

    Wilhelm Gustloff enters the chat . . . . "Am I a joke to you? Dona Paz are rookie numbers, gotta get those numbers up, son!"

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 Před 3 lety +1

      That's what I was thinking
      10,000ish died in that one

    • @johan-achternaam
      @johan-achternaam Před 3 lety

      That was the first thing on my mind

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 Před 3 lety +1

      Ah but all 3 of you knew about it. Did you know of the Doña Paz?

    • @14gears55
      @14gears55 Před 3 lety

      Since it was a warship, perhaps they disregarded it? Maybe they should have said ‘commercial maritime’?

    • @johan-achternaam
      @johan-achternaam Před 3 lety

      @@nicosmind3
      Never heard of it

  • @TheGhost418
    @TheGhost418 Před 3 lety +17

    You could do the Québec city bridge! The one that fell twice before getting it right.

    • @deemariedubois4916
      @deemariedubois4916 Před 3 lety +4

      P B That would be an excellent topic. The Mohawk of Kahnawake renowned for their skill and agility when it came to high-steel construction were the hardest hit when the Quebec Bridge collapsed. They called it Shontoskwenne, pronounced “soon-doe -SKWONN-nay,” which means “when the bridge fell.” Twenty two Mohawk families lost breadwinners when 33 of the tribe, most in their 20 & 30s were killed in the collapse. No other community was hit as hard as the Mohawk who were left with 25 widows and 53 fatherless children.

    • @caledonrevxp
      @caledonrevxp Před 3 lety +1

      I agree that would be a good video.

    • @bigdmac33
      @bigdmac33 Před 3 lety +2

      Or what about the Lac Megantic disaster?

    • @TheGhost418
      @TheGhost418 Před 3 lety

      @@bigdmac33 Yes, this, but I think it would need a mega project or to feature on his future disaster channel instead of side project

    • @caledonrevxp
      @caledonrevxp Před 3 lety

      @@bigdmac33 Great suggestion, That would be a perfect video for Simon to do. And like this video, massive explosion caused by gross negligence.

  • @lovarols5161
    @lovarols5161 Před 3 lety +2

    I happened to board their ships during the mid 2000s travelling to Uni in Cebu to my home province. Its been fine, however one of their ships capsized as well around 2008 in Romblon.

  • @westwest123
    @westwest123 Před 3 lety

    Can you share your lighting setup for your video?

  • @lxtechmangood9503
    @lxtechmangood9503 Před 3 lety +2

    Had never heard of this accident before

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Před 3 lety +1

    A pretty horrible situation, operated by people who should have never been in charge, just as irresponsible as the captain of the Costa Concordia, but much, much worse...

  • @GeorgieB1965
    @GeorgieB1965 Před rokem

    "Allegedly" is Simon's favorite word to use on his channels.

  • @orig1990vintoy
    @orig1990vintoy Před 3 lety +1

    Google is really watching. I was reading a case, Vector v American Home Assurance which was about this collision. Today CZcams recommended this video to me in a different device.

  • @narzereth
    @narzereth Před 3 lety

    This is the deadliest PEACETIME maritime disaster. There was a ship in ww2 called the MV wilhelm gustloff that was hit by 3 torpedoes and sunk with a loss of 9000 people. Thus making it the deadliest wartime maritime disaster and or the deadliest maritime disaster yet.

  • @strawberryowl962
    @strawberryowl962 Před 3 lety +2

    I think you should clarify that it is the deathliest peacetime maritine disaster so that some people can actually focus on the lives that was lost there.

  • @insignia_real2464
    @insignia_real2464 Před 3 lety +1

    Fun Fact: the docked Dona Paz picture was located in Tacloban City, Leyte, Philippines.

  • @jmchez
    @jmchez Před 3 lety +14

    "Don" in Spanish is an honorific akin to "Señor" (Also, equivalent to "Signore"in Italian) but more elevated or respectful. Don and Doña come from the Latin, "Domino" or master (same as "dominate"). I'm guessing that "Sulpicio" was the last name of the founder of that company and "Paz" was his wife's or daughter's first name.

    • @sheevpalpatine7588
      @sheevpalpatine7588 Před 2 lety +9

      Don Sulpicio Go=founder of Sulpicio lines
      Doña=Lady
      Paz=peace
      Doña Paz=Lady of Peace

    • @TheKweenII_09
      @TheKweenII_09 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sheevpalpatine7588 never heard that before

  • @hupaogaming9559
    @hupaogaming9559 Před 3 lety

    this man is grindin fr

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 Před 3 lety +1

    This company has one of the worst maritime records, had more than 3 major shipwrecks in the past 50 years. Claimed more than 10,000 lives yet its still alive

  • @rjcarillo1414
    @rjcarillo1414 Před 3 lety +1

    Do a video about the Princess of the stars which is under Sulpicio lines. That sinking was a huge controversy

  • @SlapShotRegatta22
    @SlapShotRegatta22 Před 3 lety +8

    New York City aqueduct system starting with the Croton Aqueduct that still stands today!!

    • @debbiekerr3989
      @debbiekerr3989 Před 3 lety +2

      That would be a great subject to cover.

    • @chicomarx213
      @chicomarx213 Před 3 lety +1

      I made the very same suggestion about a week ago...would for sure be a good topic..!

    • @SlapShotRegatta22
      @SlapShotRegatta22 Před 3 lety

      @@chicomarx213 Simonnnnnnnn! Let's do it mate!

  • @charisanna4914
    @charisanna4914 Před 3 měsíci

    I read an account from one of the salvage divers looking for bodies afterwards. There were really young kids on board, too, just totally shattering