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Hey Yam, I'd like you to talk about gear, exclusively. More precisely about the wear and tear of it, do we have to change it often (even without faling/crashing, etc.) or we can just use the same gear for multiple seasons. Thank you in advance, love the content and I've decided to start riding because of you. Learned lots of stuff!! Cheers from Bulgaria!!
*cries in Floridian*
Only a 2 days-course is required to get whatever bike you want ? *Cries in European*
For their Defense, they have much wider, longer and squarey roads than us so they don't need that much learning as we do in the first place
I still hate it tho :)
I was thinking the same thing! Where I live a motorcycle license will cost you just shy of 2.000 USD and it takes several weeks with both theoretical courses and driving courses!
@@jonasblm yo wtf that actually insane
2k USD? That's a whole used SV650
My first thought when I heard that. Lucky bastards :)
Here in Poland course takes several months. In details there are 20 hours of theory followed by an internal exam afterwards 20 hours of practice/riding on a parking lot first and then on the streets with instructor. Once you are done with the course you can sign up to a national exam which is pretty damn tough. First part of the exam takes place on the closed place/lot, where you have to perform several different tasks; these are: u-turns in eightish shape, slow slalom, fast slalom (they check your speed), emergency breaking, start from the stop on an ascending hill. They even check if you can lead your bike while walking next to it...sic! If you are successful with these tasks they take you on a street. Riding can take up to an hour.
Total cost is around 500-600 USD for a course and around 50-60 USD for an exam. I think I do not have to tell you that most people fail during their first approach. Sick system.
On the other hand that explains a lot why US youtubers like Yammie talk a lot about entry level bikes while here in Europe most people with full A licence usually jump on >600cc for a starter.
Cheers!
@@conViction0000 People don't go straight go 600cc cuz they cant do it legally anymore. Unless theyre above 24 of course or had a2 for 2 yrs so the beginner bikes are still very much a viable option
Where there's a will, there's a way.
If you're set on riding at some point like I was then I highly recommend just slowly buying pieces of gear one at a time long before you get that bike.
@@Constantine909 been doing it since I was 16 I’m about to be 18
Yep need a good amount of grandpa's will
Damn right.
@@Constantine909 that's what I did too.
The more I watch this channel the more I realize that buying a motorcycle from 1990 for 750 bucks and giving it a full service myself in a shed was the weird route to take
I wish you've made this video 3 months ago. Oh well, when I sit on my Duke 390 I forget every cent I spent 🥰
I was able to score a used 2017 Duke 390 with 700 miles for $3600.
Buying a bike in January is always a f’ing steal.
College students: "What do you mean a loan isn't free money"
thats right wing apologism. dont post that here.
@@PartikleVT don’t leftsplain
@@PartikleVT What the hell is apologism?
What the hell does politics have to do with making fun of college students?
Why are you telling someone else what to do?
Why do I feel like you are a very punchable person?
Why does it seem like the entire persona of your sad existence is based on politics?
Why do you exist?
Are you real?
Damn, Yammie is making bank if he can give away an $18,000 bike on top of all of the others. Glad to see how he has grown and is still the same Papa Yam that we all know and love.
I’m in army bootcamp where we only get our phones once a week and I’m watching this video
Lol nothing wrong with that dude! Thanks for serving 👍 stay positive during the training.
Hey serious, thank you for your service my man. Cheers and much love.
You get to use your phones now?!! wtf...
Once a week? What the fuck? You shouldn't get them at all, we sure as hell didn't. God damn
@@TheTyphoon365 lmfao and for this long to watch a video lol? We got them after each phase for 10 minutes to call home lol
In 2017, I bought a lightly used 2011 DR650 (dual sport) with 1,100 miles and it was $3,750.
MSF course was $235.
GA Taxes were $135.
GA Annual registration $25.
Progressive insurance $67 month.
Gear was around $1,400 (Shoei+Sena, jacket+armor, pants, boots, backpack)
Was roughly $7k for me starting with nothing. New 2019 KTM Duke 390 $5100ish out the door, full set of riding gear $1100ish (Helmet, Jacket, Gloves, Boots, Cardo Packtalk Bold). Motorcycle school was $330. DMV motorcycle license fees $80. Insurance was $144 for first payment then 74$ a month.
That's not including many other things I bought like tools so I could work on the bike. Also aftermarket parts I got for my bike. It gets real expensive real quick lol
How are u liking the bike? That’s in my top 5 of first bikes and that’s pretty much as much as I wanna spend. I’d definitely rather buy new if possible
@@rickymahoney6664 a 390 duke is a perfect first bike. And even a fun cheap daily
Cost me 8000$ for my Z650,1000$ of gears,another 1000$ for the moto school and 700$ for registration and 100$ for license. Only cost me +/- 250$ a month for riding and it worth every penny.Anyway if i would used my suv to go to work i would pay that in gas every month.
Actually going through the buying process rn and this is incredibly spot on. Spent about 200 MSF, 600 gear (local shop had an amazing bundle deal on Alpinestars/icon gear), and 3k on my bike (2009 ninja 650r) after new tires, title, maintenance, etc.
I'm a junior in high school and about to be 18. There's a lot of things you got to do to get on your iron steed. Get a job, save money, get a car truck ext (trust me as much as you want to you can't live off your bike), get your license (c class), start to work on your msf course (in Texas looking around 150 to 250 dollars), and then finding the bike you want. DONT BUY BRAND NEW, trust me I want to too but instead of getting a 2021 or whatever year we're in when yall read this, get something one or two years old. After that ride. (When something around two years old it shouldn't be massively abused. Still get the bike inspected by a professional
I'm not from the Usa so I don't know but I would never get a loan on a bike if you can't buy the bike with your money you just can't afford it
Edit just hear yammie say the same thing
In the Netherlands that's pretty much true for anything but a car or a house. In the US it is much more common however to use a credit card for all sorts of stuff.
In the US debt is the most heavily marketed product of all time. Personally I believe that debt equals slavery, so I try to go cash only, especially for toys. It does take a lot of hard work and self control to build yourself up to be in a position to do it though.
Credit in America is looked at the same way it is everywhere else, it's just Americans tend to use ours more because what's the point of having a good credit score if you never use it? And sometimes it's nice to just have something new even if you can't just buy it outright. Also, let's say I wanted a Kawasaki H2R, because it's my absolute dream bike, but thats $55,000 USD, that's as much as a lot of vehicles. No one in their right mind is gonna buy a bike outright for $55k unless you're filthy rich and can do stuff like that. So what would you buy it with? Credit.
that's the a big difference between the mentality of the USA and for example Europe.
Its a yes and no kinda thing does debt suck hell ya but 13k out the door for,my 2016 zx14 did i have that cash?? Hell nah so it went more like this.
well do i have a job??
Well ya.
can u come up with 200 bucks a month??
Ya for sure.
Well if u sign here shes yours.
Okay deal.
I doubt most motorcycle guys would say no to a bike they want when they can make it affordable for you.
I live in a mid size city in central Mexico (around 1,000,000 inhabitants). The city is very old, so the center wasn’t “envisioned” for cars... that means narrow streets and the largest road is 3 lines with a top “legal” speed of 45mph. This means that small displacement bikes are the bread and butter ranging from 1k usd for a 150 cc Honda/Suzuki 4 stroke to a whooping 3k for a gixxer 250. It is important to note that in Mexico prices always include taxes and there are no “hidden” costs.... what they say is what you get.... credit? No problem, they will throw in a free insurance to incentivize the purchase. Registration? Just an initial 35 bucks plus another 35 for plates( you may need to splurge on plates every 4 years if the government party changes or the government is low on cash). Insurance is not mandatory and there is no regulation on protective gear... which means that people run on open face helmets made in China that cost 15 bucks... throw in a pair of gloves for another 12 and that is as good as it gets. Driver license is a dream right now, our state provides permanent driver licenses for 100 usd and no exam needed. ( my wife got hers and she doesn’t know how to drive a car XD)
Maintenance? Lol, I paid 60 bucks on full service and scan of my bmw with both tires changed
To sum low cost of owning a motorcycle in Mexico makes up for our low salaries
My .02 cents: I’m about 1 year into serious street riding. I’ve racked up 18k miles on mostly Texas backroads and my take away is... Tires are the biggest cost. I get on average 3k miles to a rear tire. So quick math means in one year I’ve now replaced my rear tire 6 times and my front tire 3 times. Add that to the fact that your never gonna want just one riding jacket and one helmet and you’ve got yourself quite an expensive hobby... so worth it though 🤙🏻
I spent $2000 on a 2014 ninja 300, a few hours cleaning up the scratches with compound and polish, a few hundred for new tires and all the maintenance that might or might not have been done. Has been a great bike to learn on and plan on keeping it even when I get my next bike.
2000$? Jesus, a 2014 Ninja 300 is 6000$ in Europe...
@@VMAdventures88 it needed some loving but mostly cosmetic with clear coat scratches and overdue maintenance. Normally they go for around $3000 to $3500 out here. The girl I got it from originally bought it for $3300 and dropped it her first time trying to take it around her block and it scared her.
@@mikeantoniato1199 Nice deal you got there. Is this your first bike?
@@VMAdventures88 no I actually started out on a kawasaki z125. I rode it last year for about 2000 miles and only decided to move up to a 300 due to the wind and hills out here keeping my z125 from hitting the speed limits. I don't really intend on going bigger. Might just add a cruiser to the collection. I still have the z125 and the ninja 300. Both are bought in cash so no need to get rid of them
@@mikeantoniato1199 Maybe a ninja 650 would be a great fit after some time...
last summer I bought my ninja 300 for 2500$ CAD on craigslist and spent around 700 on gear +400 on insurance/year +900 for motorcycle school (in quebec it’s different &expensive). it’s been a lot more expensive than I thought it would be - im only 21 years old - but it’s well worth the cost. ive never felt anything as fun as motorcycling and i love this new hobby👍🏼
thank you yammi for getting me into bikes it’s been an awesome experience so far
Ahhh shoulda done it in Ottawa. $536 for MSF here
New 2019 Husqvarna Svartpilen 701: $7500
Dealer and reg fees: $700
Insurance: $120 year
HJC helmet, leather gloves: $200
Everything paid up front.
Great first bike, legal and on the road for around $8500. Say $400-500 per year in gas/oil /tires to keep it going.
A word of advice for those who really want to be price conscious riders; Cheap car and nice bike is always better than nice car and cheap bike.
Came to realize that eventually! Sold my "nice" car for a POS Sentra just to ride my new bike, and I'm happier than ever
That’s kinda what I’m leaning towards. Get a cheap truck for the winter and nice bike for every other season
Just a heads up boss, if you plan to commute/ ride around 4/5 days a-week you most likely will need a new set of tires every season or 2 at best and oil changes and small maintenance. Could be more than that I would plan for worst incase
@@revellations7741 I ride one to two days out of the week. I have experience in small engine repair and have always done my own maintenance on cars, dirt bikes etc. An extra couple hundred a year won’t kill me. I would not have gotten into riding if money were an issue. Just giving viewers an idea of potential costs based on my experience
@@rickymahoney6664 I do the same. Bike for nice days, truck for anything else.
About 4 years ago when I first got into motorcycling I bought a 2007 FZ6, I paid 4500 and it had 12,000kms on it. As I was looking for a jacket I saw one in Marketplace turns out the seller had a nice Joe Rocket mesh armour and shell, rain suit, and helmet for I think I paid $150. I figured that was cheap to get started and if for some reason I didn’t like the sport, I’m not put too much money and can easily recoup. I then bought some nice Joe Rocket pants on sale ($200 I think) that zip up to my coat, found some nice boots for about $200 I had good gloves. After taking my M1 I signed up for M2 course which was great! I recommend that course to EVERYONE! I now have my full M I ride as much as I can upgrade my helmet, still ride my FZ6 I think it’s a great bike. Great video! Thanks
Be patient and get used. You can get a 2 year old low mileage bike for 1/2 the price if you are patient. Don't limit just to local and you'll find that gem.
How do you get it if it is far away?
I’m early. So hear me out. Give away bike... the new klx 300sm👀
Got to get those holdover deals!
I purchased my 2019 Duke 390 in May last year. Brand new still with 0 miles. Got it out the door for $4,900 total including tax/title. $180 HJC helmet, my leather work gloves, Icon super duty boots for $120 and I was riding. Bought an Aplinestars jacket for $280 a month later.
So $5,480 in total for my first motorcycle. Coming up on a year with it and I can honestly say I still enjoy the hell out of this bike.
I began riding in 2018 and got a Kawasaki Vulcan 500. I was about 4500 in with bike, fees, gear insurance, and msf course
How much was ur insurance a year ? Also which country
@@chiqui4559 Was just under 800 USD for full coverage the first year.
While I stare at my 19 R1 every time I drive into my garage and can't ride because of Anchorage AK weather.....I really appreciate all of this great content!
My grom was 17.74% lmao, financed when I was 19 I'm 21 and I paid it off a few months ago early because I realized I was getting fucked in interest.
Jesus Christ private... 🤣🤣
@@dh2477they really got me lol, looking at the contract I signed I think I was going to pay a total of $6500 for a fucking grom lmao. I put $1200 down and somehow still owed $3500.
@@GenericExotics you must have had zero credit. I'm sure you'll get a much better rate going into your next loan.
@@clint_a_210 I had like 2 credit cards at the time but nothing else, my credit today is much better though
Damn they really tried fucking u. You live and you learn I guess. I really want a Grom but I’m gonna try paying in full if I get one. Still hard to make a decision for me
I am just amazed by 2 days course for a motor cycle license.
I just started my drivers lessons for motor cycle license, and i need to have a drivers license for a car first then need to be over 24 to a for all types of motor cycles.
When you first start you have to do motor handling cource 5-9 lesson (90min) around 600/700 EU with a handling exam and a theory exam, after that you can go start the public road course which is about 5-9 lesson again 600/700 eu, and finally you have a final exam which is about 250 EU.
this might sound excessive but holy shit i would not jump on the back of someone who only did a two day course.
Just bought my 14th ever motorcycle last week! Yamaha Tenere 700. This thing is freaking sweet! 11k OTD with tax, reg, etc. Already got about a grands worth of upgrades planned.
ADV bikes are THE WORST for endless sweet upgrades. I'm half way through accessorizing the baby GS that I bought last fall for my 60th birthday.
That conned a friend into buying a KLR650 and he sends me daily emails of his never ending money pit upgrades. 😕
PS - The Tenere does look mega awesome. Congrats!
Got started for 2500 dollars, 2000 for a 2007 Honda shadow spirit, 250 for the msf class, and another 250 on gear
Bought a $2000 '01 Honda Shadow 750, did all my basic courses and others on that bike, I put about 9k miles on it over about 6 months including a Pittsburgh winter... (9 degrees is chilly), then sold it for the same $2000 i paid for it, once I had bought my vulcan 2000 and was confident on the bigger bike. Those small bikes get no credit for all they have done and continue to do for motorcycling. Best learner cruiser ever. Especially for bigger people(250lb+).
That's just the stuff you need. Wait til you start buying the stuff you want... 😬😬😬
Yeah I found this out quickly 😂 Leo Vince exhaust, fender slims, mirrors.... it adds up!
Great content. At some point my friends were buying lake houses. I had no attraction to sitting in one place every weekend and mulching. For me, the expense of motorcycling is my lake house and I spend far less. I budget my motorcycle as my fun/recreation money and just allow myself to spend some money on it. I would rather ride than mulch any day! $250 payment for a premium bike, some fuel, $500 in tires a year and some insurance. Not bad:-)
I'm with you, brother! Also I love tinkering on the bike(s) and cleaning them. Keeps me out of trouble and out of the bars :)
I just spent $300+ at revzilla on shit i really dont need......
That's funny:-)
Sounds like they let you off easy this time!
@@robsadler5605 Lol.! Exactly!
"Motorcycle: 7000
Gear: 800
Total paid including interest: 7,800"
Wow yammie that is a good interest rate you found on that loan! Or you may have messed up the math there...
I was thinking the same thing. Although he did say people with good credit lol
I've just started (license 2020. 11., bike arrived on friday) here how it looks like for me in EU - Hungary with VAT:
- New Honda CB650R (bike, quickshifter, insurance, plate, etc) total cost: $10.035
- License: $500
- Gear (Full leather, Scorpion EXO1400 carbon helmet): $1.500
So TOTAL: $12.035
The VAT here is pretty high (27%), but the insurance is pretty low without loan ($35/year).
There are a few bits and pieces I will add to the list (frame sliders, tail tidy, intercom, phone holder) so it's safe to say the end will be somewhere $12.500-13.000.
A good pair of rubber here are around $270-330, 1gal of higher octane gas (100octane E5) is around $5.7.
I believe that's all. :)
I haven't gotten a bike yet, but it's looking like I'm gonna need to take some more hours at my part time job so I can save up the cash to just buy the MF outright, cuz loans, credit, and interest are all huge pains in the ass and I don't wanna deal with that crap! I just wanna get my fix of V-twin happiness without it ruining my finances!
YES! Pay cash! I hate banks. Credit is against my religion. 😃
F'n banksters. 😈
I've spent around $5000 in my first year to get into riding. i'm in Canada so things like MSF and insurance are WAY pricier. Got a solid used bike for $1500, threw $500 getting it in tip top mechanical shape. I didn't cheap out on any gear (I only had the helmet and jacket to take the course in case I sucked and didn't pass) and don't regret any purchase I made. I think it can be done way cheaper but I wanted to set myself up as best as I could and save me money down the road in case anything unforeseen happened to my finances. The hard part has been not endlessly spending more money because this hobby is a black hole of possible purchases and I'm deep in it please send help (or cash).
I’m looking to get my first cruiser in LA and I’ve been following your videos and they are so helpful. You rock🤘🏾
A motovlogger from the Philippines started off with a 150cc bike then went straight to getting a zh2. Worked well for him although it wasnt his best decision
Hey Papa Yam, big fan just wanted to say I recently bought my first bike. It's a 2020 Vitpilen 401 I bought in cash brand-new it set me back about 8k NZD (from New Zealand btw) about 8.5K in-total after registration etc and gear cost me about 1.6K for everything but pants. Now saving up for some slide frames and a good disc lock as I recently had a drop well doing a low speed U-turn (scratched her up abit T_T). You have been a big inspiration and a great source of info for this baby squid to get started on 2 wheels and I have been having a blast! Thank you so much without you guys it would not have been easy for me to get into this hobby.
I was surprised how much money I had to spend in the first few months of owning a bike, no more designer shoes and belts instead it’s gear and mods
$1550 got me 1994 Magna one owner perfect shape with 5,400 miles, Harley cover and helmet, and BMW boots. $15 for Harley riding gloves used but brand new looking. $25 for an IICON riding jacket that couldn't have been used more than twice. 1 year of insurance was about $450. MSF was $295.
$2200 all in for my first year my friends. Though I did spend a minimal amount on oil and filter also. And I get compliments every ride! You don't have to spend a fortune to get on a motorcycle!🤘😎🤘
I wish the MSF course was $150, in Cali it’s $350
Just completed the OCMT for 350$, and 40$ for a second chance coverage.
I did not take any course here in socal. I went straight to the dmv and took the written test and the driving test which is super simple, it only cost me like 39 bucks to get that M1 endorsement.
@@Two_wheels_dasher yea my first attempt on the dmv course I used a cbr 600 and fail but I just got a Yamaha r3 so hopefully I’ll do better
In Canada it's $500.....
@@unsafe_at_any_speed damn that is expensive
I don't even ride motorcycles, but now I have a undying need to go buy a rice-rocket. wasn't interested in it either until today
In the Netherlands, you need to pass two practical exams and a theory exam before you are allowed to ride. These will set you back in total about €300/€400 euros by themselves. Furthermore, you can only plan an exam through a driving school, which will only let you take them if you have had practice lessons with them. Overall, if you're a very quick learner, you're still looking at around €1000 to get your license.
I all ready knew how to ride a scooter with gear, took me about 22h of lessons = aka 1100 EUR + almost 500 total for the practical exams. Spend about 600 on gear (and owned some things all ready) and needed about 60 EUr for my theoretical exam..... then the bike including some check up in the garage, new tires and was all ready an additional 400 EUR. My total was almost 1600-1700 only for the license.... and I all ready new a lot of the basics.... 1000 does not cover the basic fee even when you re a quick learner.
My bike was 3500 (ninja 300 (2012)) and spend 400 in addition in the garage and on my gear another 600 ..... in the end of the road you re looking at 6000 EUR at least if you want to own everything including up to date gear and bike without doing everything yourself.... I don't now about when you graduated, but in 2021 this is what I paid in total over 2020 to get everything together :) not meant to attack or anything! Just want to elaborate on all the extras that come with the license as well and if you just got 1000 in the back I don't think you ll have enough to reasonably start riding... My aunt got an older bike and owned a lot of gear all ready. She paid around 3000 total... but she does everything in her own garage and not use the bike for commuting like I do :)
with only the mandatory lessons (night, country, highway) and the exam fees you´re looking at about 1000€ already, without just one practice lesson, without theory, without entry fee to the driving school. That is if you get a good deal here in Bavaria. Overall you should calculate about 1500€-2000€
@@redo1dr 100 % agree
Money well spent imo
@@shannonjanssen3828 I was just talking about the license yeah, and only if you are a quick learner. I am actually hoping to get my license this week :D. Cost me about €2000 euros in lessons + exams already. €600 for a helmet, about €400 for all my other gear.
Am actually planning to get an SV650 for about €5000 euros.
Beginner rider here. 2020 new Kawasaki 650 Vulcan S ABS. About $9.5k. $6.5k after $3k down payment. Added extended 5-year warranties from the dealer. Gear from RevZilla in cash: overpants, gloves, helmet, Jacket. Roughly $700. Purchased bike with loan. Helps build our credit in our situation. and everything warrantied or covered with insurance so we can walk from the loan in the event of a total loss.
I have ordered a full set of gear this week (including pants!) total is about $1100. still got to take a riding course and a written and road test for a class 6 license (Alberta, Canada) probably cost me another $1000 then I'll look for my first bike. thinking of the Svartpilen 401 atm.
When I got my first bike 20ish years ago, I spent $100 on a full face helmet that was on clearance and that was it.
Back in the day, we'd have given our eye teeth for a fancy helmet. I made do with an old lard bucket and I was mighty glad to have it. I knew a guy who had to use a moldy cantaloupe rind... and he was glad to have it. But these kids today think they need a fancy helmet with an expensive DOT rating. We made do with what we had.
Canada:
Used Ninja 300 14,000km: $3000 + tax- $390
License plates, safety and used vehicle package: $160
Helmet used (like new from trusted friend): $150
2 used like new alpine stars jackets (spring/fall, summer): $200
Five gloves: $70
Alpine stars smx boots: $180
M1: $20
M2 course and test: $540
Insurance for bike: $80 a month-Desjardins
Plate stickers for year: TBD
Well I am 16 and I ride an KTM rc 125 and it’s really good gets the job done
I was budgeting for gear and bike over the next couple months and decided to see what is going on in the world of our Yammie Noob. Low and behold he came with the perfect content for my needs once again.
I am from Europe, can tell smth - if you buy used bike and new gear, starting with 125cc you can close up to 2-3k usd for bike and 500-1k usd for gear (helmet, gloves, shoes, jacket). Lets say used R3 - 4k usd for bike. Some 600 - well, some 5k usd will give you nice bike.
Budget was pretty damn close. spent 4K on a used bike great condition and as far as gear goes its pretty close. only thing i don't have is riding specific boots. Recommendations on a hot weather jacket Yam? Down here in San Antonio and you know how hot it gets
Over here in Sweden, I had to take a special motorcycle course before I could ride, which cost around $1500 (including all the exams).
Of course, that's because I already had a car driver's license, so the course was relatively short.
Technically you can find an experienced rider to teach you, but you definitely want to get a few lessons in to know all the tips and tricks for passing the exam, and the exams itself are not cheap either.
That's much more than $150! Good thing it's worth it.
The German school is about that but is very very thorough. A dozen or so classroom hours plus time on city streets, Bundes Straße and Autobahn b.
Wtf kostar det inte runt 7000 eller något?
@@emilmujanovic5891 Might be cheaper depending on where you live, how much time you need on the bike, and of course the school. My wife and I both took the course and all exams with an instructor near Stockholm, and we both spend around 15000 sek.
That is including the Risk 1, Risk 2, Theory, Practical 1 and Practical 2 exams. I don't remember the exact break-down (this was a few years ago), but as I recall those exams were not cheap either.
Makes sense it is more expensive around the capital than down in Jönköping!
With numbers like this I'll happily take a dual Sport conversion Craigslist special that idles at 12 rpm, I can't afford this mate!
Seems pretty accurate. In Canada so prices are a little higher - spent $1,700 on a Katana 750, about $2,200 all said and done once I swapped tires and did brakes etc. $700 on gear to start riding. Not too bad for my first bike.
Just bought my first street bike. 2020 Z900 in blue. $10,200 out the door, they took $500 off since it was last years model. Love it! Makes me want a zh2 as my next bike down the road. I paid cash, full coverage insurance was $1064 for the year with bike replacement one model year newer and road side assistance through progressive. I’m 28, no tickets, no accidents.
My experience so far: 1. Ninja 300 (Grand total 4,449) payment of $110 and $42 on insurance. 2. GSXR-600 (Grand total 8,600) Payment $182 and $130 insurance. 3.GSXS-750($7,500 Grand total)payment $180 and $45 insurance. Just a broad spectrum of bikes and classes that you can use for close reference as to pricing.
Have you ever heard of the brand Malaguti, its one of the cheapest bikes. The XSM costs only 3.300€. I would love to see you on one 😂
Cheap espresso my guy?! 😂
a suzuki gn is cheaper 2000 euro brand new
and also a honda click is 850 euro for a brand new one
Bought my first bike in 2020 a Yamaha Fazer 600 from 1999 with 30.000km on the clock. Bought it at the Yamaha dealer and it was from the 1st owner. The bike cost €2500,-. Then i bought my gear there as well and they gave me a Nice discount on that. So i got the jeans and jacket for arround €350,- my helmet was €250,-. Oh and i almost forgot my license that was arround €1600,-. This is an example from the Netherlands.
I started riding on a pre-owned ninja 500r with gear of only a Helm, Gloves, jacket and pants (with steel toe work boots) of only 3k$ including MSF course and registration. Insurance is up to you with personal sales. P.S i don't condone riding without insurance. Bought 200$ electric warmed gloves for winter riding after the summer had past. Also suggest base layer thermals for cold rides. Then riding all year is very possible.
Disagree on a lot of what was said, you can easily get away with a lot less. For a first bike, do not buy new and do not buy on credit! Buying a $1500 bike is perfectly fine, (get a ninja 500 or something) just go see it with someone who knows a thing or two. 1st bike was an old yamaha sr185, cost me $350, aside from regular maintenance all I needed to do is change fork oil (which i guess is technically maint as well), insurance on it was $450 a year and I rode it for a couple years. Once you know how to ride, then you can buy new if you want but for a first bike, get it cheap but make sure its in good shape. As for gear, when you are still not sure if motorcycling is for you, the only two items I would buy new are a Helmet (HJC has great options for under 150$), and gloves for $50. For a jacket, a heavy denim or leather jacket will do or just buy one second hand, for shoes, just get sturdy leather ones that cover the ankle. All of a sudden you go from $1000 to $200 or $300. After a year if you're still into it, buy whatever you want. PS. if you buy a small displacement beginner bike on credit and pay it off over 5 years as you mentioned, after a year or two you will get rid of the bike to upgrade to a bigger one and continue paying for a bike you no longer own. I love you man, but this video is absolutely terrible.
My first bike 10 or so years ago (after many years of not riding) was a Yamaha SR250. I rode the wheels off that thing for 2 years (even one long trip just to see if it would make it!) and it was a great bike to learn on. I don't think I paid over $800 for it. I must still have a soft spot in my heart for a small, simple bike because I just bought a Honda CT90. I have 15 bikes total bikes now so you have to factor in the cost of addiction as well! "Can't just have one!"
Thank you Yammie, I appreciate your work day after day. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the community. (I laugh often with your funny things also) thanks you so much.
I just found a 2020 suzuki sv 650 for 5500 bought it on loan to help build credit. Great budget bike I definitely recommend
Looking back, I wish I would have bought my first bike on credit. It is an '05 Honda Shadow that I bought for $1,900. It had what I thought would be a cheap fix. In reality, it cost $750 on top of about $1,000 of me trying to do it myself at first. I had my dad buy the bike because I thought he would know if it was a lemon or not. I could have bought a Harley Sportster 1200 for all the money I spent on fixing the bike. I didn't get the bike because I thought the insurance would be too expensive and I would drop the bike. I have yet to drop my bike now. I think I got all that out of me at the MSF course. I spent a ton on gear. I want to look good since I ride I cruiser, so I have been playing around with gear. Helmets also have been a pain to figure out what I want. I bought a cool LS2 helmet on sale for about $150 that is worth $400. I mostly use my half-helmet. All-in-all, I think I spent close to that $800 mark on gear. I wish I bought all this on credit. I'm about to graduate, so I could have afforded the payments until after I graduated.
I'm about to grow out of my current bike. It's great to ride around the city, but I like to do long-distance riding. If the wind is too fast or dense, I struggle to get my bike to the speed limit. It's another reason why I wish I bought a 1,200 cc cruiser. My dad is a wimp and keeps thinking I can't handle anything. I believed him. I'm a pretty safe driver. I just need a modern bike to get me around a little more comfortably.
I was literally just thinking about this today. Then this video shows up. Yammie you already know what I need man
MSF in New Mexico...3 hour e-course, 5 hour classroom, 10 hour range, $190. $30 for new license. Wish you would have talked about maintenance...
Eurobro here, I spent about 6000€ total, which was at the lower end of the scale imo.
License: ~1800€, very expensive as you might guess. That included the driving school, exam fees and safety course fees after 2 years of license ownership
Gear: ~1300€, i overspent a little (deliberatley) on the helmet. I defenitley wanted to include proper pants, so 800€wouldnt cut it. I could have reduced it to ~1000€ without making sacrifices for safety.
Bike: 2500€, Versys 650 (2007) with ABS, fresh tires and service - best bang for the buck. The Versys is an excellent and fun bike for a mature beginner, dont meme on me. :-D
Liability insurance and tax was 400€.
Ready to go!
HAHAHA!! Americans complaining about bike prices. we pay 220% of the U.S. price and the insurance (for a noob) is about 1800$.
Got a cbr600f4 for 1475$ helmets on clearance 106$ glove 80$ change the handle bar for dirt bars to change seating position to change the bike from super sport to a street classe is 600$ which im saving 1200$ on the licence plate in QC .🇨🇦 ...MSF equal course cost 800$ to 1100$ insurance is 450$ for the year..
Thanks Yammie! I’m about to buy my first bike and your videos are so helpful.
In Iowa, you don’t even need to take the MFS course. You just have to take the written test and then show up for the riding test. You can take the MFS course here but it’s optional, or it was back when I got my bike license.
Same here in Kentucky. The MSF class might be required now, but wasn't when I got a license. I took the MSF class soon after getting my license and highly recommend it.
In the netherland buying new is an option but I would not recommend, buying used think about prices like:
Personally i have had more than 10 bikes and currently an yamaha r1 and aprilia rsv1000 factory(video's on my channel :)).. i ride quite a lot (30-50k km per year)
and i buy all parts and tires etc with good deals.. spending about 500 a month on my bikes' costs.. buying new gear at least once or twice a year too.
Buying bike and gear will be about 5000-6000 euros and about 270 euros a month for a middle class bike.
Buying cheap but good bikes would be around 2000-4000 euros
(Bikes like a 2000-2005 600cc racers, nakeds and sumo's)
Buying mid class bikes will be around 4000-6000 euros
(Bikes like a 2002-2006 1000cc racers, 2005-2010 600cc racers, nakeds, dorsoduro/hypermotard)
Buying high end bikes will be around 8000-11000 euros
(Bikes like duke 1290, 2015 r1, z1000 etc)
Gear I would say you will spend around 750-1000 on; personally i recommend buying boots, gloves, leather suits (almost new) secondhand and helmet brand new
Gas is about 2000 euros a year when u ride about 16000km a year with about 15km per liter of gas.
Tires, brake pads, chain and sprockets, oil etc would be about 750 per year when u ride about 16000km(10000 miles) a year
Gas is about 167 euros a month.
So maintainance is about 62.50 euros a month.
Insurance will be about 15-30 euros a month for basic coverage.
Road taxes are 10 euros a month.
Yes please keep showing us expensive hard to get parts for foreign exotic bikes. You're certainly not boring the shit out of us.
Used bike with 1 helmet $1100 (cruiser older than I am), tags/title/fees $68 , Helmet $50 (Half shell), Endorsement $33, little above minimum Insurance per year $134, full tank of gas $15.
total cost $1400 2013 year
I started with $1500 got a rebel 250 helmet and gloves... It gets you started then you can continue to save while you ride... Rebel 250s don't lose their value they are 1100 no matter what
My MSF in NY was $300 10 years ago. Across the border in PA the state it is free.
For my setup I'm spending
$3000 for on my 2002 honda 919 hornet
So far another $100 on mirrors and rear blinker set up
Using old work boots
Normal jeans
Hand me down jacket and gloves
And $200 on my helmet.
I know I'm cutting a few corners safety wise but I'm also surpassing the minimum in some areas. I also plan on upgrading my jacket and maybe boot and gloves. I feel like I'm kinda in limbo skills wise. I rode for a year and a half and then took a 3 year hiatus for professional reasons before the itch to ride got too bad. I'm hoping it'll be like riding a bicycle but the roads and conditions are way different than what I learned on
Awesome video, looking into getting my msf and starting my journey on a bike this video is super cool
Motorcycling is a luxury hobby. I advise only to get a motorcycle if you have the cash saved for it. Or only get a small loan. Gear is expensive so budget some money for that.
Depends on how expensive the motorcycle is... let’s say your spending $15k on a bike and you qualify for a 3% loan. If you take that 15k and invest it conservatively, you can expect a 5-7% annual return. Also, with inflation, the value of the dollar falls 2% every year. So, financially speaking, you’re best to buy lightly used, and invest that cash while you pay off the loan. Personally, I pay the depreciation and any initial taxes/fees up front, and leave the equivalent cash in the markets to continue to grow. The interest will be a wash all said and done.
I'm sure the Indians will agree with you while riding 125cc's bro. It's a mode of transport as valid as cars and busses
I spent about 6K for a brand new 2017 Kawasaki z650 (it was a leftover in 2019). Spent about $850 in riding gear which includes a shoei rf 1200, a dainese riding jacket, and a pair of $35 riding gloves. Now mind you I was under 25 and it was my first bike so insurance was about $1100 for the year. NJ beginner's riders course is about $350. Also keep in mind buying brand new means if you want to do any modifications like fender eliminator or exhaust you can really start burning through cash 😅🤣.
I think you should have added the 3% cost of the loan to give a true cost since few ppl are getting a 7k loan on credit with 0% interest
NOT ALL states require you take a MSF course in order to get an M Class endorsement Noob....In PA, you go grab a learners permit which is good for a year cost is $10 bucks. Now you must possess a driver lic..then you can go find the starter bike and start riding. My advice if your completely NEW to motorcycle take an MSF course. Once your supremely confident LOL, in order to get the M class endorsement on your DL in PA and a lot of other states, all you do is take a eye, and a 'written' test at the local PA DMV location P/F along with a riders proficiency test. The most difficult part of the riders proficiency test-doing a figure 8 in a tight box. The instructor says HD owners fail this 95% of the time, come back on a smaller bike. Also know with your eyes closed, where your ignition on/off switch is, all the stuff on your switchgear..lights, turns, on/off , etc. The last motorcycle I purchased off Ebay was my Daytona 955i..$3500 mint w/6880 ..no finance ..so insurance is cheap $98/year. vs my Ducati 999 which had $6000 FBF prepped testastretta L twin engine alone, $4000 worth of Ohlins suspension, Pierobon, Termignoni, goodies etc. So good motorcycles are out there inexpensively...and loads of fun..oh and a great set of tire Contimotions which are more tire then 98% of us can use, less than $200 120/70 190/55 pair so tires are cheap considering. Great info Noobs !!!! Now where's that Daytona 955i review !!!!!
in Germany only the licence is arround 1800 $ and if you want a car licence it is another 1800 $ because these are completely seperated
A little north of 2k for me. got a 2009 kawi er-6n 650 with some cosmetic blemishes for $1600 + gear and paperwork. amazing starter bike imho. a year later i sold it for the exact same amount and picked up a 600. (since then the 600 has been costing me an arm and a leg)
I’ve considered all of these except for one: tires. That one did slip my mind and I’ve heard people tell me they aren’t cheap.
Msf in Ca is around $350
X2, for my son to join me 😬
Dude! You guys don't giveaway free motorcycles! It's technically a raffle that has to be paid for! Stop lying!
technically you can buy 1 t-shirt and win a bike ... so you got the shirt making the bike free.
or you support the channel on patreon where you get the perks attached to the patreon + you can win a bike.
the way they set it up it's actually "free" for the one that wins ... ofcourse it's payed for by all the patreons and merch buying ppl ...
Also I think u get a free entry by sending fan mail
@@user-go9tc3cw4b but stamps are 50 cents now lol
2020 Ninja 400 KRT ABS: $5,300 w/ everything
Gear: $3,850 (I went for the most protection, including airbag vest)
MSF Course: $330
Permit: $10
Insurance: $580 per year (full coverage w/ roadside assistance)
Licensing exam: $45
Random stuff for the bike(keychains, tank grips, motovlog, etc): $700
Worth it lmao
Short answer for where I live in Europe:
€1000 to get licence
€1000 to get a full set of protective gear
€5000 to get a decent 2nd hand motorcycle
total: €7000
The MSF equivalent in Toronto is about 500 bucks!!! And that's just to get your M2!! There's M1 (written test. Learning permit), M2 and M.
Yeah, the M1 exit is about 500 bucks. You don't have to take it to get your M2 but it is encouraged. Same thing with the M2 exit to get your full M.
In Germany approx. 1500 € for a license. Months of theorie, practical lessons and examinations in both theory and praxis.
Love the noob and beginner-friendly content going on lately.
national average $100....Maryland is almost $400 right now. and booked for the entire year on the east coast(since there is only 1 location) you have to drive 2.5 hours to the closest Harley dealer on the west coast to get in this year.
Just bought a 97’ ZX7 “Money Pit”
Paid 4K for it, worth 3k
Off to good start
And ...
I dropped it night one
hey might not be my place to suggest but maybe you could start a series talking about how different people of different ages can go about starting and financing the motorcycle hobby (college students, new-grads/ young employees, middle aged idk something like that) ? I know for a fact that as a college student id be really excited to see something like that
This is a good idea! I honestly took an extra job and made a reasonably calculation by talking to some schools, looking online and talking with friends (Europe 6000 eur is more than needed) and I took an extra job that I let put the salary in an account of my parents so they will put it in a save account. Got to save about 400 each month by working an extra 8 hour shift as an barista and taking on 6 extra hours on my extra job that I also put in the account. --> 1 year later I had the majority together and started lessons :)
in germany you have to pay atleast 1300 - 1800 for a drivers license. more if u fail the test
I’m from Ireland and a duke 125. Costs about 6000 dollars brand new and if you were to take out credit for it you’d be spending about 7000 dollars in total
How about top gun with the win today? Good to see him riding well again.
I bought my first bike, a 1997 Suzuki GS500E, cash two years ago for around $1250, and I've spent roughly the same on gear. In Sweden, however, getting your license is a pretty big thing, and that probably cost me around $2500 all in all. And now my BMW R1150GS is in for a yearly service and to get a new front tyre (Pirelli Scorpion Trail II), and just that sumbitch is almost $200, work charge not included..
Not sure if you mentioned this or not, but making sure that you're picking the right motorcycle "FOR YOU" based on more then just the bikes looks and horsepower. A new rider should sit on a few bikes and ride them if possible (probably easier to do this with new versus used) to make sure that they are comfortable with the bikes feel, sound and most importantly the rider triangle. As this is the position that they will be in for long periods of time while riding the bike. This will help prevent them from trading it in after just a few weeks for something else and potentially losing money on that first bike. Also, always better to buy that first bike used than new in my humble opinion.
Motorcycles are expensive, just because it puts a extra strain on most people finances to get the extra vehicle. If you were to finance a bike at least pay off 50% plus of the bike during purchase good way to build credit. In Canada our big limiting factor is getting insurance on the bike you want. eg you get a gsxr 1000 at age 20 "if" you can find a insurance company your looking at 6k to 10k per year to insure that bike.