@@iz6130 I did think of this being an issue, but I couldn’t see a way of Courtney not being targeted after not getting immunity. He’s not really a villain but I’d have to say Duncan would probably be the most likely to fill the void.
@@VyseNodge duncan makes sense, even if not he would’ve been courtney’s “side kick” in the season and it would’ve been cool for the “side kick” to out last the main villain
I think this is interesting cast but I would change the boot list a little Ep 1: None Ep 2: Geoff and Bridgette Gaffers: Heather, Leshawna, Gwen, Dj, Harold, Duncan, Tyler Grips: Lindsay, Beth, Izzy, Trent, Owen, Justin, Noah Ep 3: Izzy Ep 4: None Ep 5: Trent Ep 6: Aftermath (Izzy, Trent) Ep 7: Gwen (Izzy returns on Gaffers team) Ep 8: None (Noah and Tyler switch team) Ep 9: DJ quits Ep 10: None (Courtney debuts earlier on the gaffers) Gaffers: Heather, Leshawna, Izzy Courtney, Harold, Duncan Grips: Lindsay, Beth, Tyler, Owen Justin, Noah Ep 11: Izzy Ep 12: Aftermath ( Gwen, Dj, Izzy) Ep 13: Owen Ep 14: Heather Ep 15: None (Merge Leshawna, Lindsay, Beth, Courtney, Tyler, Noah, Duncan, Harold, Justin Ep 16: Leshawn Ep 17: Noah Ep 18: Aftermath (Owen, Heather, Leshawna, Noah) Ep 19: Justin Ep 20: Tyler Ep 21: None Beth, Lindsay, Courtney, Harold, Duncan Ep 22: Beth Ep 23: Courtney Ep 24: Harold Ep 25: None Ep 26: Winner: Duncan Alt: Lindsay
@@VyseNodge Noah and Justin would make a good rivalry because In total Drama Drama Drama Drama Island Noah says toJustin the Anti-me which could be Something
i so agree, maybe like replacing Bridgette with eva, and than swapping owen and eva’s placements could make this perfect, especially with the lack of development from eva and the gender imbalance with the final 5 (all referencing this video). i still would have liked to see this happen over the original tda, though
still wish he could've been the villain of action over justin, he had the brains for it and due to his early elimination in island he didn't have many relationships or attachments to anyone enough for him to be reluctant in getting rid of them and/or using them
@@cherryraid1129 I wish Noah was in action and was the villain instead of Justin and Justin was in world tour instead of Noah and had a huge rivalry with Alejandro and get final 5.
Tyler especially would've greatly benefited from being a three season character. Action would've been perfect to use him for comedy as well as fleshing out his relationship with Lindsay (which would've then gotten rid of that arc from World Tour,probably for the best). Considering that Action was the season to focus the most on comedic relief characters I feel Tyler and Noah would've been great additions to the season as Noah's snark and wit and Tyler's slapstick and lack of brain cells would've given us some really funny interactions and moments,if Tyler managed to merge I can only imagine how great he could've been around Harold,we were so close to greatness.
@@RaffehNaseer i have seen literally no one give him any praise or like him- i'd say he's COMPLETELY underrated as a comic relief character as well as just a good side character in general. plus he's super wholesome, a lot to love!
@@alemonyoyo69420 I really do like Tyler, however, in order to be ‘underrated’ you also have to be relevant to story, and Tyler isn’t really important to any storylines…
I love this idea so much! Tyler would've been great in Action and he got so far it would make him a more popular character. Him being a part of the '3 season' group would work. Especially with his relationship with Lindsay.
I always liked the idea of, a Courtney, duncan, and harold final 3, where, say, Duncan wins the challenge, and has to choose his finalist he wants to fight in the finale, and despite cortney being his girlfriend, he picks harold Because he is so fed up with Cortney walking all over him
This Final 3 could be epic tbh. I also would like a scenario where Harold chooses to eliminate Duncan over Courtney, essentially making up for when he took out his anger on Courtney in TDI. Or with Courtney eliminating Duncan so that she can legit crush Harold in the Finale for what he did in TDI. Kinda bothered me how TDA just drops Courtney’s hatred of Harold. Could’ve been a good plotline with Duncan coming to prefer Harold over Courtney as she becomes more overbearing.
I really do think TDA should've given us the full 22 person cast! Katie & Sadie deserved more development, so did Ezekiel. Eva had so much potential, Cody just shouldn't be left out, and Noah/Tyler are self explanatory
I have a theory that the reason Beth was never on bottom two in a voting ceremony was because the participants thought that she would be an "easy" competitor to go against in the finals, and pretty much only saw that she had a chance to win when she had actually won something. (Same thing with Cody, but Beth has more potencial than him as we saw), TDA finale being a half quiz and half insane challenges could fuck up half of the merge fellas.
16:11 I'd argue that Harold's an even bigger powerhouse than Lightning. He has an insane amount of skills and his intelligence is one of the highest the show has. He's also very athletic and physically strong, just not quite as a physical powerhouse as Lightning but Lightning is also dimmer than a box of broken lightbulbs.
I like this version of events because if I'm not mistaken 3/4 times that Lindsay has been eliminated were dissatisfying because it was clear the writers just didn't know how to realistically eliminate her... Just very contrived. (And the other elimination was All-Stars where they essentially unwrote all her development over 3 seasons and made her dumber than she was at the start of Season 1)
I've always thought the 3 best finalist duos for Action were the one we got, Duncan vs Harold and Harold vs Lindsey. I disagree with the notion many people have of Beth doing nothing the whole season, and I quite like the opposites meeting her and Duncan provide, which is what the other two duos would have done as well. I think all 4 of those characters were the highlights of the season, which is why Courtney and Owen returning annoys me so much as they over centralize the episodes on them when they aren't that interesting and kinda ruin the arcs already existing between those 4. So seeing Harold vs Lindsey here is quite fun.
Beth being a finalist is the reason Action isn’t my top season, otherwise it probably would be Duncan, Harold, Lindsay and Justin carried the season, Courtney was more an annoying brat than she was a schemer. Eliminating 3 out of the first 4 back to back to back killed the vibe, Lindsay’s elimination was awful, and Episode 23 is very forgettable In fact, might as well stop watching after 22 because that felt like more of a finale than the actual one
The finale should have been either of 2 options Courtney vs Lindsay or Duncan vs Harold. These 2 have great rivalry in first 2 seasons, and to see them finally get it over and duke it out in finale would have been satisfying. Courtney vs Lindsay would have been equally great finale as they also had great rivalry that needed more development to be perfect. It’s brains and skill vs stupidity and sheer luck.
Honestly I think this would play out amazingly, but I feel like either Courtney or Justin should make it a bit further just so that there’s still the threat of a villain winning in the final episodes
@@cauapereira1019 Heather would be on a team full of people that she wronged in season 1 Justin would have an army of dumb characters at his disposal Izzy’s motley TDDDI trio would be together and probably heathers only real chance at surviving Justin and his slaves, assuming Eva is willing to cooperate with Heather The other team has a big messy situation with the love square all together Dj doin the same old same old Not sure what Lindsay and Tyler would be doing
You’d essentially have a whole lot of TDI alliances coming back. On one hand, (assuming that Geoff is on the left team and Bridgette on the right team because of their own placements in the middle) the old Bass alliance of Duncan, Geoff, DJ, and Courtney is back in business on Left Team. You’ve also got Gwen, Trent, and Leshawna working together on the same team. Tyler and Lindsay are likely allies, leaving Owen and Harold essentially screwed if they can’t stay out of the way, prove their usefulness in challenges, or cause drama among the two alliances. On the Right Team, you’d essentially have two groups vying for control as well. Team E-Scope (consisting of Izzy, Eva, and Noah) is likely together. Likewise, Justin probably has the support of Katie, Sadie, and Beth. That leaves Bridgette, Heather, Cody, and Ezekiel up for grabs. Bridgette isn’t going anywhere near Eva, and neither is Heather. Beth won’t work with Heather either. I don’t see Ezekiel being invited to either alliance because of his past sexism. Cody, however, has a chance of getting onto Team E-Scope. The way I see it, Heather and Zeke are most likely to be eliminated early for the Right Team, while Owen and Harold are most likely to go early for the Left Team. After that, you have a war of alliances. I’d say that the friendship between Duncan and Gwen causes serious tension between Duncney and Gwent. Who knows how that turns out with Trent on the same team as Gwen and with Courtney there too? On the other team, either Izzy or Eva is likely to mess up big and throw a tantrum (Eva did in TDI, Izzy did in TDA). This likely leads to Justin’s alliance dominating Right Team. Overall, an interesting season at the beginning because of all of the drama and strategy, but likely grating by the end as uninteresting characters like DJ and Geoff make it through while annoying ones like Katie and Sadie also do.
I feel like the actual finale should've been duncan vs harold since the characters were both rivals and it could be something like duncan keeps harold around to torment him, but harold ends up winning immunity.
Did you ever see the 2 part podcast about how a “cartoon director” would change TDA? It’s by Derek Jackman, and I think you’d really enjoy it. His reasoning behind eliminations were very creative, and he brought up a lot of valid flaws to the season.
I don’t think Bridgette would get eliminated in episode 3. She was a “surfer girl” so she probably would’ve done great in the surfing challenge so her team wouldn’t have voted her off even if they lost. Trent and Bridgette could’ve swapped places but the Gwen and Trent falling apart situation would’ve had to have been more rushed and I don’t think that could be done favorably. You could switch Bridgette and Izzy but Izzy being eliminated 2nd leaves a more favorable gap between her being eliminated and her coming back so it’s not like she leaves and comes back immediately. The only other thing I could think of is maybe in episode 4 along with Trent being eliminated Bridgette could quit? Maybe she couldn’t push herself to make it any farther without Geoff. They could even use an excuse for Bridgette being a host on Aftermath like Chris tells her off camera to quit she would have to host on Aftermath with Geoff and she agrees since she wants to leave to be with Geoff.
Personally, I would have swapped Noah and Tyler. Tyler doesn’t really have much to do after he wins back Lindsay, while Noah still had his plot lines with Owen and Justin. You can just as easily say that Justin targeted Tyler since he stole Lindsay alliance away from him. Cool vid tho
Normally I’d say that a true strategist would never make such a stupid and petty decision (Noah and Owen are close, while Tyler and Owen aren’t, ergo Noah is the smarter choice to eliminate), but Justin is nothing but extremely petty, so I agree lol.
Imo, Eva could replace Geoff and Noah would replace Bridgette, they would have had more of a role, especially Eva, who was no longer used along with Katie and Sadie. (Katie and Sadie should honestly stay as a one dimensional contestant(s) Eva honestly had more character and the Total 4X Drama redeemed her, her and Noah would have absolutely KILLED Justin (literally) And with Izzy, it would be amazing if the Izzy, Noah and Eva alliance returned, that would be the stuff of gods. In my opinion, this should have been the elimination order: 16th/15th: Trent & Gwen *Teams Start* *Team 1 - The Killer Grips* Leader - Noah Members: Eva, Izzy, Duncan, Harold, Leshawna *Team 2 - The Screaming Gaffers(was this the name of the team?)* Leader - Lindsay Members: Beth, Justin, Heather, DJ, Owen My Way(It starts now): 14th: Owen (Honestly had no character this season, compared to Island and World Tour) 13th: Beth (What did she even do this whole season?) 12th: Heather (Not a major contestant anymore, honestly had no role this season other than being bald) *(Izzy Joins Team 2)* 11th: DJ (Quit because of Alliance with Chef) *(Owen Rejoins)* 10th: Izzy (Suffering their first loss, the team agreed to vote off Izzy since she barely helped in certain challenges and was plain crazy, Noah and Eva are now the only hope to eliminate Justin) 9th: Leshawna (Hated doing that, but everyone else just had a better role, sorry) MERGE (Courtney Joins) Remaining: Noah Lindsay Justin Eva Owen Courtney Duncan Harold 8th: Owen (Yeah no, just no, I don't see why he was brought back this season, he would have fit more in All Stars imo) 7th: Eva (Sadly, Justin manipulated Lindsay into voting Eva, Courtney wanted her gone and literally held Duncan hostage and made him vote her off, Noah is the last one left) 6th: Justin (Noah had convinced Duncan and Courtney that he was evil and to vote him off, Lindsay accidentally voted for him when she was supposed to vote Courtney instead, since she lost the challenge) 5th: Harold (He played a good game, but everyone else had bigger roles, especially Noah) 4th/3rd: Courtney & Noah Courtney: (She was annoying and Duncan had enough) Noah: (Played a major game, needed this season to assure his iconic-ness in World Tour anyways) 2nd: Lindsay (THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BRUH😭😭 But fr, she had more depth than her own friend, and this was HER SEASON, none of these vids about Action would have existed if Lindsay's voice actor didn't have a family matter (Idk if it was major, but whatever it was, I hope that family member or anything else is okay now.) 1st: Duncan (Relatable, keeping him as the winner just felt right, don't worry, Lindsay wins in certain countries)
Okay, so this vid is funny to me, because I didn't find it until after I started it, but I actually DO have a fanfic on AO3 that is a rewrite of TDA, which includes both of these characters in the cast! (It's called 'Total Drama Refilming Action' if you're curious. At the time of this comment, I've gotten up to Episode 15 released) I find it interesting because in your Episode 14 you booted Noah, but kept Tyler in the merge. For me, it's the other way around. Tyler's on the Gaffers and Noah's on the Grips, and other than that the teams aren't changed (Courtney gets on the Grips). Tyler is mainly the gag character in the Gaffers and the moral support as opposed to the others drama. He tries to be a team player but most of his attempts backfire, though Gwen in my version sticks around until Episode 13 with the Gaffers mad at her, so Tyler flies under the radar of people to eliminate. He and Lindsay are on different teams, but he tries to keep in touch with her anyway, despite her not knowing his name (and she never learns it in this season because it'd contradict WT). He finds out about Justin's schemes after the Gwen incident, and they clash a little, especially on how Justin treats the girls (respect women) (and in this version Justin actually does stuff). Episode 14 is more so of a Tyler focused episode as he makes an attempt to be a valuable player, only to be taken advantage of by Duncan (Duncan and Courtney are in an alliance and a relationship), and turns out Lindsay becomes more competent with her helping him and her starting fire. He and Lindsay are forced to be against each other in the tar pit fight, but neither decide to hurt each other. Lindsay nearly gets caught by a paradactyl, but Tyler sacrifices himself to get her to safety and let her win the round. Despite him throwing the point essentially, he decides it's more important to help others be strong players rather than prove himself. And he and Lindsay are closer together despite Lindsay still not knowing his name. Unfortunately Duncan lost the tiebreaker of that challenge, but Duncan is able to convince Heather and Leshawna to vote for Tyler to save himself. So Tyler leaves. But he's okay with it because in his mind, he didn't lose. (There's even a bit where Lindsay says that if she wins, she'll share the money with him) As for Noah, he is on the Grips, and he immediately has beef with Justin. This is due to past history they had before the show. (They went to the same middle school, Justin was always president due to his looks, and Noah was the secretary, and Justin not only proved himself an irresponsible executive, but he treated Noah like dirt.) Noah KNOWS what Justin is about. So because he won Island, Noah plans to start an alliance with Owen and use him to gain strategies on how to win. Owen, being naive, sees this as a friendship, something that Noah, at this point in the show, is not familiar with. This makes the Grips divided in two once Trent is eliminated, because Justin has Beth and Lindsay deceived, and Noah has Owen and Izzy (Because Izzy is Owen's chic and not into Justin). Justin and Noah have a brains vs beauty rivalry going on that starts drama for the entire Grips team. Beth is into Justin, but Justin is using her. Lindsay is stressed from the clashing and wants to prove herself as a leader. Owen is into Justin so he wants everyone to get along. Izzy is... Izzy. The big difference with Justin and Beth's alliance and Noah and Owen's alliance, is that Justin, at the point I'm at in the rewrite, has not changed his opinion on Beth. She is a tool for him and he thinks she's ugly. (Oh yeah my rewrite Justin is really narcissistic and hates ugly people) Noah on the other hand sees Owen as a tool at first, but overtime due to Owen's kind nature, Noah begins to actually like and care about Owen, and even see him as a friend. Justin finds out about that friendship and plots to break them up in Episode 10. He does so by reminding Noah of their past and where that got him, making Noah want to prove himself as not like Justin, so Noah breaks it up with Owen. Unfortunately this breakup causes Owen to break his jaw and get medically evacuated from the game. (He doesn't come back.) Justin manipulated the situation to break the alliance clashing on the team. Owen's injury, Noah, not intentionally, caused it. This is guilt Noah will feel throughout the rest of the season. (Owen is in the Episode 12 Aftermath, and he says that he has no hard feelings about it btw) Izzy gets booted because she called Justin 'not cute' (again, Justin is narcissistic, and though Noah is sarcastic and insults Justin regularly, it also makes it less meaningful to Justin when Noah says it). So Noah has no more allies, and he isn't getting any from his team, because Beth and Lindsay are TICKED that Noah broke Owen's jaw. They think he did it on purpose when he didn't, and he has a bad way of apologizing. (This is the Grips version of the Leshawna spa incident. So both teams have a member that they are ticked at for something.) So you'd think Noah's screwed, right? No. Along comes Courtney to join the team. And she has won every single challenge for the Grips up to the Merge. AND she single handedly has wiped out HALF of the Screaming Gaffers. (By Episode 13, The Gaffers had six people, Gwen, Heather, Duncan, Leshawna, Harold, and Tyler. By the Merge, it's just Duncan Leshawna and Harold left.) Justin and Noah both realize this and that they have an even bigger threat than each other. They both know they need to do something about it and get rid of this CIT. They might even have to work together despite everything... And that's where I'm at. I like your version though. I think Tyler's character arc is very interesting and it's nice to give Lyler some love.
12:33 Justin’s elimination needs fixing, he was unfairly eliminated since he rescued Courtney which was the entire point of the challenge. But all of a sudden Chris changes the rules so Justin loses and gets voted out.
I agree that it’s an unfair challenge, I didn’t want to change it as to honour the rules of the season. If I was to completely rewrite this episode I’d probably just make Chef the princess and have everyone compete.
Here’s the rundown of Action Duncan- Good Beth- Pointless Owen- Dumb Return Courtney: Nightmare Harold- Awesome Lindsay- Amazing Justin- Great Leshawna- Good as usual Heather- Decent Izzy- A Mess DJ- Good Gwen- Just Sad Trent- WTF Happened Bridgette/Geoff- ☹️
You’ve got it a bit wrong. Duncan - Great, but had too much plot armor and shouldn’t have made finale because of it. Loved his interactions with Courtney and Harold, though. Definitely helped carry throughout much of the middle and end of the season. Deserved final 4 or final 5. 8/10. Beth - Not involved in any drama and didn’t have any reason to stick around after Justin left. Just a bland character tbh. Only worked as Justin’s pawn, and didn’t even get to really tell him off like she did Heather in TDI. Didn’t have chemistry with anyone else, really. Added nothing later on. 3/10. Courtney - Breathed life into TDA, which had grown kinda stagnant with the Grips having no drama going on among them. Gave us a real antagonist too (Justin refused to lift a finger for anything and didn’t have any strategy beyond looking good). Definitely deserved her placement. 9/10. Owen - Was fine at the very beginning, but shouldn’t have come back. Added nothing to the later episodes and just sort of got in the way of the real dynamics. 3/10. Harold - Harold was awesome this season. He showed off his skills quite a few times, had great interactions with many other characters, and was quite funny a lot of the time. He definitely should have made it further than Beth. I think he deserves final 4 or final 3. 9/10. Lindsay - Amazing development and humor. Lindsay really showed her stuff this season. She really did deserve to go further, as the only way the writers could axe her was by making her accidentally vote herself off. Deserved finale or final 3. 9/10. Justin - Wanted to like Justin, and he was funny quite often, but he disappointed regularly as an antagonist. Didn’t do well in any challenges, didn’t try to keep the loyalty of Lindsay and Beth by contributing or charming them beyond a smile every now and then, and didn’t have any real merge strategy. 6/10. Leshawna - Hated what they did with Leshawna tbh. Too much farting and too many depressing episodes. I do like the lying plot, as it shows a legitimate flaw of hers and threw the Gaffers into a good drama, but didn’t like how it was executed. 5/10. Heather - Heather was fine, but too much of her character revolves around hair gags. I did like how shocking her elimination was, though. She was fine. Letting her get past the first episode was bs, though, as legit everyone would have voted her. 7/10. Izzy - Izzy was entertaining as always. Her second elimination was kinda bs though, as Justin only did it because she said he wasn’t attractive to her. Would’ve been better if he did it because she’s the only one on the team who doesn’t like him. Still, Izzy did her job and left. Can’t be too upset. 7/10. DJ - The cheating plotline was interesting, but DJ as a character kinda isn’t. He doesn’t have conflicts with the others, so I think him getting out early is good. Liked him enough. Probably the most interesting angle they could’ve done with him. 7/10. Gwen - Gwen was good in the first few episodes and I suppose she did drive some good drama with getting Trent voted off. Because she was too attached to the 9-Trent plot, though, I’d say that I didn’t like her performance at all. Definitely deserved this placement. 3/10. Trent - Completely ruined as a character and really didn’t feel like the guy from TDI at all. Trent could’ve been written to just be jealous of Duncan and therefore tried too hard to suck up to Gwen to prove himself better, only to make his team think of him as a traitor. This saves Gwent and doesn’t make the first few episodes terrible. Instead, we got 9-Trent. I hate 9-Trent. 0/10. Geoff & Bridgette - Both were flanderized in the first two episodes, but I guess it’s fine because it’s an okay gag and the Aftermath segments were pretty interesting. Overall, liked them. 5/10.
I think that Harold vs Lindsay should’ve been the finale. In canon, Beth had no reason to be in the finale, I think the writers were too busy subverting expectations that they forgot who to consider as finalists. And I hate how Duncan won after bullying Harold the whole season. Beth and Lindsay swap positions, Owen getting out in the space episode instead of Harold. Duncan and Courtney getting out in ep24 double elimination.
Tbh, I like the idea of a Harold vs Courtney Finale better. Both are incredibly powerful competitors and they have a hateful history. Could be a very intense finale.
My cousin and i came up with the idea of having harold vs duncan in the final 2 while having Courtney being in 3rd because then it could be very compelling to have the two dudes who hate each other and have a bully vs bullied dynamic which i think would be great. It would sound similar to cam vs lightning in revenge but 1. This wouldve happened before that so it would be very interesting in the dynamic and 2. My cousin hasnt seen revenge yet so he doesnt know about that ending, he has only seen the 1st episode of revenge
tyler really should have been in as. and leshawna. and for Pete’s sake, Anne Maria too… and brick. I’m mad they didn’t add tyler, leshawna, dj, Anne Maria, and brick weren’t added in as. anyways, I LOVE how you shaped this vid, and added Noah and Tyler too. they deserved to be in it,..
THIS IS MY CAST FOR TOTAL DRAMA ACTION (THIS SORT OF INCLUDES A BIT OF MY WAY ) Cody ✅ Gwen ✅ Heather ✅ Izzy ✅ LeShawna ✅ Bridgette ✅ Justin ✅ DJ ✅ Lindsay ✅ Duncan ✅ Geoff ❌ Courtney ❌ Trent ✅ Noah ✅ Eva ✅ Owen ✅ Beth ❌ Harold ✅ Tyler ✅ Sadie ✅ Katie ✅ Ezekiel ❌
Noah is my favorite character and he should’ve won 1 season imo maybe some sort of another season with the original cast instead of the reboot Noah was great
I know I'm quite late and it's a slightly unusual pick, but I'd replace Tyler with Katie (and give Sadie the elimination you gave Bridgette). I love Tyler but I think the possibility of Justin being able to manipulate Katie, who'd feel isolated with Sadie going out early, is a really interesting dynamic. All the eliminations flow in the same order you laid out here up until after Justin is eliminated (normally where I stop watching). After this point we're left with Katie, Lindsay, Harold, Duncan, Courtney and Owen. You need at least one of Duncan or Courtney in the final 3, otherwise the dynamic is all off due to everyone being heroic. This presents two elimination order options I see: A) 6th: Katie, 5th: Harold, 4th: Owen, 3rd: Courtney, Final: Lindsay v Duncan B) 6th: Owen, 5th: Katie, 4th: Duncan, 3rd: Courtney, Final: Lindsay v Harold It's a bit annoying trying to decide her as I'm against late entrants/returning players being finalists or winning, so Owen and Courtney can't win, putting Katie in the final feels wrong and I don't want a m-m final. I think option A is probably the better of the two as Duncan and Lindsay clash better as finalists than Lindsay and Harold. Tyler would've been a lot of fun and is awesome, but he really feels like his only plot is being in a relationship with Lindsay and kind of just ends up being carried through thanks to there always being someone else to vote off. Alongside this it makes the targeting of Beth over Lindsay potentially make more sense as Beth could help act as a glue keeping Lindsay attached to Justin & Katie or have her be the target of a boys alliance between Justin, Duncan and Harold as they are out-numbered.
I love this idea cause Izzy, Noah, and Tyler, wouldn't like Justin But Lindsay, Beth and Owen like Justin So the first out can make for a fun round where Owen has to make the final decision, although Noah and Izzy would probably just tempt him with food
Could be explained as Bridgette taking charge for the challenges because she is a surfer before promptly messing up so badly that even Trent trying to throw the challenge can’t save the Gaffers lol. Would make sense too, with Bridgette off her game after Geoff left and maybe feeling resentful that everyone voted for Geoff when Heather was legit right there.
Also Sadie and Katie should have been on tdwt so when they both interacted with Alejandro they both fight and you know how Katie said that she is prettier than Sadie? Keep that in mind. So Sadie is sad and she goes to Lindsay since first season they were nice with each other and Katie goes to Alejandro and she says that “I feel like I did something wrong to Sadie because I said that I was more prettier than her” then Alejandro says that Katie is more beautiful and Katie blushed and then Alejandro says “ Katie you are more beautiful because Sadies body size… ehh but yours is perfect!” Katie was so mad that he said that about her BFFFL and she ran away from Alejandro and told Sadie what Alejandro said about Sadie. Sadie was furious and I feel like they could have got farther since Lindsay is robbed kinda early and Katies voice actor could voice Katie more and I feel like they could have made it to merge too! Since that whole scene happened with Katie and Alejandro then they had plot armor and I feel like they replace where Courtney and Blainely got sent out so like Katie got voted off because of some people voted her because they thought she was useless and they could use Sadie for votes after on. Sadie was heartbroken and she said “ Wait! I am coming with you!” Everyone is like saying Sadie to shut up and Sadie then says “ I hated when you were voted off in the first season! It was horrible! Do I am coming with you!” Chris then says that she can go because of the same reason like the blah blah blah and happy ever after for Sadie and Katie and OH MY GOD I SPENT SO MUCH ON THIS
I feel like Lindsay would choose the raccoon since it was the cutest and Harold would choose the chameleon since it is the closest to his snail Leshawna. And then with Tyler and Lindsay as a twi person alliance, they would vote off Harold. Then Tyker would intentionally sliw diwn so he can give Lindsay a fair chance, since it is what she would have wanted. And maybe Tyler could promise to give 3/4 if the money to Lindsay, with Lindsay promising to take Tyler and Beth to a tropical vacation, and Tyler accepting it, as he understands how important Beth is to Lindsay as Tyker is to Beth. Lindsay could promise to get some things fir Tyler as well.
That would be way too boring, as it would provide very little tension in an already-lagging finale. Tyler and Lindsay aren’t going to be very competitive against each other.
In my opinion I think that Noah and owens placements should be swapped and instead of Duncan getting out Harold does. Then in final 3 Duncan tries to get Lindsay out but tyler self votes to save Lindsay.
I would've replaced Geoff and Bridgette with Noah and Tyler, cause if they were gonna be made hosts of aftermath anyway then I would've preferred that they just weren't in it at all, and also out of all the "geek" characters I would've much rather seen, Noah or Harold go against duncan
Action is my favorite, the only thing id change is the final, it couldve been Duncan vs Lindsay, Duncan vs Harold, Harold vs Lindsay, even Courtney against any of then mentioned, but they chose Beth 💀
Doesn’t seem like it tbh. Tyler being mad at Justin for flirting with Lindsay and Lindsay deciding between the two is honestly an interesting arc idea that could’ve given TDA some much needed drama with the Killer Grips. Beyond that, Tyler isn’t ever really going to be on anyone’s radar with everyone else feuding. Makes sense that he’d go far in this scenario, but that he also wouldn’t make finale.
@@DoomzdehI meant that Tyler reached the finale on his first 2 videos, and also made it very far on the next two, I don't have a problem with it, it was just a funny thing to point out
Tyler is good but Eva would be better than Noah cuz Eva can have character development and interact with more people unlike Noah who was just more cannon fodder than a real character until season 3 or the tdi special
@@dingdongpaddiwack funny joke tda was much better than TDWT and i will die on this hill. TDWT was the beginning of the end and bastardized season 1 characters. people say 'trent was handled poorly in tda' and- you're right, but it doesnt compare to the mishandling that was done in TDWT. another thing- chef and chris are at their peak in this season, and same with the setting and challenges. it allows you to suspend disbelief and gives the same vibe that the original had in surplus- a reality show. TDWD doesnt have that, its absurdist at best and downright nonsensical at worst. and the claim that ROTI is genuinely worrying me about ur mental health, u good man?
@@dazedandconfused5711 I kinda agree with you. Most of the OG cast was derailed by TDWT, but that derailment started in TDA. And unlike TDWT, TDA just felt boring. The cast was smaller and the episodes felt like they just dragged on. The challenges in Action, for the most part, were boring and not as memorable as in Island or World Tour imo. At least ROTI felt like a breath of fresh air with a new cast compared to the disappointing follow up that Action was. I'm surprised the show didn't get cancelled after TDA.
Let me know your thoughts here!
i think it was amazing! i have a question though, with courtney being eliminated at i think final 6, who would fill in the main antagonist role?
@@iz6130 I did think of this being an issue, but I couldn’t see a way of Courtney not being targeted after not getting immunity. He’s not really a villain but I’d have to say Duncan would probably be the most likely to fill the void.
@@VyseNodge duncan makes sense, even if not he would’ve been courtney’s “side kick” in the season and it would’ve been cool for the “side kick” to out last the main villain
I think this is interesting cast but I would change the boot list a little
Ep 1: None
Ep 2: Geoff and Bridgette
Gaffers: Heather, Leshawna, Gwen, Dj, Harold, Duncan, Tyler
Grips: Lindsay, Beth, Izzy, Trent, Owen, Justin, Noah
Ep 3: Izzy
Ep 4: None
Ep 5: Trent
Ep 6: Aftermath (Izzy, Trent)
Ep 7: Gwen (Izzy returns on Gaffers team)
Ep 8: None (Noah and Tyler switch team)
Ep 9: DJ quits
Ep 10: None (Courtney debuts earlier on the gaffers)
Gaffers: Heather, Leshawna, Izzy Courtney, Harold, Duncan
Grips: Lindsay, Beth, Tyler, Owen Justin, Noah
Ep 11: Izzy
Ep 12: Aftermath ( Gwen, Dj, Izzy)
Ep 13: Owen
Ep 14: Heather
Ep 15: None (Merge
Leshawna, Lindsay, Beth, Courtney, Tyler, Noah, Duncan, Harold, Justin
Ep 16: Leshawn
Ep 17: Noah
Ep 18: Aftermath (Owen, Heather, Leshawna, Noah)
Ep 19: Justin
Ep 20: Tyler
Ep 21: None
Beth, Lindsay, Courtney, Harold, Duncan
Ep 22: Beth
Ep 23: Courtney
Ep 24: Harold
Ep 25: None
Ep 26:
Winner: Duncan
Alt: Lindsay
@@VyseNodge Noah and Justin would make a good rivalry because In total Drama Drama Drama Drama Island Noah says toJustin the Anti-me which could be Something
Eva should’ve also been in action, and we could get to see more of Eva, Noah, and Izzy vs Justin
i so agree, maybe like replacing Bridgette with eva, and than swapping owen and eva’s placements could make this perfect, especially with the lack of development from eva and the gender imbalance with the final 5 (all referencing this video). i still would have liked to see this happen over the original tda, though
@@shooflyesap771 which Owen placements, the first or second one
@@Sombil27I think they meant the second one ¿?
Yeah fr
Eva got enough screen time in aftermath interviewing strangers.
I love how you give Tyler, Noah and Justin such a good arc.
@@Justanormalhumanecoming from you egg
I feel so robbed that Noah and Tyler basically never interacted, because I love both of them and they could be so funny.
World tour The New york episode I see london episode what do u mean they never talked
@@TD_CodyBrody “basiclly”
I think Noah is a really good character but didnt have enough screentime so this video was perfect
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still wish he could've been the villain of action over justin, he had the brains for it and due to his early elimination in island he didn't have many relationships or attachments to anyone enough for him to be reluctant in getting rid of them and/or using them
@@cherryraid1129 I cant see him being a villan 😭
@@cherryraid1129 I wish Noah was in action and was the villain instead of Justin and Justin was in world tour instead of Noah and had a huge rivalry with Alejandro and get final 5.
@@cherryraid1129yeah fr, they should have done what they were planning originally
Tyler especially would've greatly benefited from being a three season character. Action would've been perfect to use him for comedy as well as fleshing out his relationship with Lindsay (which would've then gotten rid of that arc from World Tour,probably for the best).
Considering that Action was the season to focus the most on comedic relief characters I feel Tyler and Noah would've been great additions to the season as Noah's snark and wit and Tyler's slapstick and lack of brain cells would've given us some really funny interactions and moments,if Tyler managed to merge I can only imagine how great he could've been around Harold,we were so close to greatness.
Adding two of my favourite characters would improve any season. Tyler is seriously underrated, and Noah is hilarious. Also great video!
No offense but tyler is extremely ovverated
@@RaffehNaseer i have seen literally no one give him any praise or like him- i'd say he's COMPLETELY underrated as a comic relief character as well as just a good side character in general. plus he's super wholesome, a lot to love!
@@alemonyoyo69420 I really do like Tyler, however, in order to be ‘underrated’ you also have to be relevant to story, and Tyler isn’t really important to any storylines…
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110
He’s Lindsay’s love interest
@@Duval-In-The-Wall true
I love this idea so much! Tyler would've been great in Action and he got so far it would make him a more popular character. Him being a part of the '3 season' group would work. Especially with his relationship with Lindsay.
Finally! He noticed the Noah vs Justin rivalry!
I always liked the idea of, a Courtney, duncan, and harold final 3, where, say, Duncan wins the challenge, and has to choose his finalist he wants to fight in the finale, and despite cortney being his girlfriend, he picks harold Because he is so fed up with Cortney walking all over him
That is the best possible final 3
and duncan winning and getting revenge against harold rigging votes to get courtney out in s1
@@ilovememoriesbyconangray no Harold ate
This Final 3 could be epic tbh.
I also would like a scenario where Harold chooses to eliminate Duncan over Courtney, essentially making up for when he took out his anger on Courtney in TDI.
Or with Courtney eliminating Duncan so that she can legit crush Harold in the Finale for what he did in TDI.
Kinda bothered me how TDA just drops Courtney’s hatred of Harold. Could’ve been a good plotline with Duncan coming to prefer Harold over Courtney as she becomes more overbearing.
I really do think TDA should've given us the full 22 person cast! Katie & Sadie deserved more development, so did Ezekiel. Eva had so much potential, Cody just shouldn't be left out, and Noah/Tyler are self explanatory
Same goes for world tour, full cast all three seasons I think would be better
Plus Noah having lost Total Drama Action to pretty boy Justin would better equip him in dealing with Alejandro in World Tour.
I have a theory that the reason Beth was never on bottom two in a voting ceremony was because the participants thought that she would be an "easy" competitor to go against in the finals, and pretty much only saw that she had a chance to win when she had actually won something. (Same thing with Cody, but Beth has more potencial than him as we saw), TDA finale being a half quiz and half insane challenges could fuck up half of the merge fellas.
16:11 I'd argue that Harold's an even bigger powerhouse than Lightning. He has an insane amount of skills and his intelligence is one of the highest the show has. He's also very athletic and physically strong, just not quite as a physical powerhouse as Lightning but Lightning is also dimmer than a box of broken lightbulbs.
I like this version of events because if I'm not mistaken 3/4 times that Lindsay has been eliminated were dissatisfying because it was clear the writers just didn't know how to realistically eliminate her... Just very contrived. (And the other elimination was All-Stars where they essentially unwrote all her development over 3 seasons and made her dumber than she was at the start of Season 1)
4/4 times. Her eliminations are always unfair
I've always thought the 3 best finalist duos for Action were the one we got, Duncan vs Harold and Harold vs Lindsey.
I disagree with the notion many people have of Beth doing nothing the whole season, and I quite like the opposites meeting her and Duncan provide, which is what the other two duos would have done as well. I think all 4 of those characters were the highlights of the season, which is why Courtney and Owen returning annoys me so much as they over centralize the episodes on them when they aren't that interesting and kinda ruin the arcs already existing between those 4.
So seeing Harold vs Lindsey here is quite fun.
Beth being a finalist is the reason Action isn’t my top season, otherwise it probably would be
Duncan, Harold, Lindsay and Justin carried the season, Courtney was more an annoying brat than she was a schemer. Eliminating 3 out of the first 4 back to back to back killed the vibe, Lindsay’s elimination was awful, and Episode 23 is very forgettable
In fact, might as well stop watching after 22 because that felt like more of a finale than the actual one
The finale should have been either of 2 options Courtney vs Lindsay or Duncan vs Harold. These 2 have great rivalry in first 2 seasons, and to see them finally get it over and duke it out in finale would have been satisfying.
Courtney vs Lindsay would have been equally great finale as they also had great rivalry that needed more development to be perfect. It’s brains and skill vs stupidity and sheer luck.
Honestly I think this would play out amazingly, but I feel like either Courtney or Justin should make it a bit further just so that there’s still the threat of a villain winning in the final episodes
What if action had a full cast, and the teams were divided based on who was on what couch in the ending of the opening to Action
then the left couch team would be basically all the protagonists and the other one all the minor characters
@@cauapereira1019 Heather would be on a team full of people that she wronged in season 1
Justin would have an army of dumb characters at his disposal
Izzy’s motley TDDDI trio would be together and probably heathers only real chance at surviving Justin and his slaves, assuming Eva is willing to cooperate with Heather
The other team has a big messy situation with the love square all together
Dj doin the same old same old
Not sure what Lindsay and Tyler would be doing
You’d essentially have a whole lot of TDI alliances coming back.
On one hand, (assuming that Geoff is on the left team and Bridgette on the right team because of their own placements in the middle) the old Bass alliance of Duncan, Geoff, DJ, and Courtney is back in business on Left Team. You’ve also got Gwen, Trent, and Leshawna working together on the same team. Tyler and Lindsay are likely allies, leaving Owen and Harold essentially screwed if they can’t stay out of the way, prove their usefulness in challenges, or cause drama among the two alliances.
On the Right Team, you’d essentially have two groups vying for control as well. Team E-Scope (consisting of Izzy, Eva, and Noah) is likely together. Likewise, Justin probably has the support of Katie, Sadie, and Beth. That leaves Bridgette, Heather, Cody, and Ezekiel up for grabs. Bridgette isn’t going anywhere near Eva, and neither is Heather. Beth won’t work with Heather either. I don’t see Ezekiel being invited to either alliance because of his past sexism. Cody, however, has a chance of getting onto Team E-Scope.
The way I see it, Heather and Zeke are most likely to be eliminated early for the Right Team, while Owen and Harold are most likely to go early for the Left Team.
After that, you have a war of alliances. I’d say that the friendship between Duncan and Gwen causes serious tension between Duncney and Gwent. Who knows how that turns out with Trent on the same team as Gwen and with Courtney there too?
On the other team, either Izzy or Eva is likely to mess up big and throw a tantrum (Eva did in TDI, Izzy did in TDA). This likely leads to Justin’s alliance dominating Right Team.
Overall, an interesting season at the beginning because of all of the drama and strategy, but likely grating by the end as uninteresting characters like DJ and Geoff make it through while annoying ones like Katie and Sadie also do.
I feel like the actual finale should've been duncan vs harold since the characters were both rivals and it could be something like duncan keeps harold around to torment him, but harold ends up winning immunity.
Did you ever see the 2 part podcast about how a “cartoon director” would change TDA? It’s by Derek Jackman, and I think you’d really enjoy it. His reasoning behind eliminations were very creative, and he brought up a lot of valid flaws to the season.
I’ve not seen that but I’ll look into it, thanks for the recommendation
Do you have a link to this?
@@Woodenfan czcams.com/video/WuFJuNddnU4/video.html
Sauce?
I don’t think Bridgette would get eliminated in episode 3. She was a “surfer girl” so she probably would’ve done great in the surfing challenge so her team wouldn’t have voted her off even if they lost. Trent and Bridgette could’ve swapped places but the Gwen and Trent falling apart situation would’ve had to have been more rushed and I don’t think that could be done favorably. You could switch Bridgette and Izzy but Izzy being eliminated 2nd leaves a more favorable gap between her being eliminated and her coming back so it’s not like she leaves and comes back immediately. The only other thing I could think of is maybe in episode 4 along with Trent being eliminated Bridgette could quit? Maybe she couldn’t push herself to make it any farther without Geoff. They could even use an excuse for Bridgette being a host on Aftermath like Chris tells her off camera to quit she would have to host on Aftermath with Geoff and she agrees since she wants to leave to be with Geoff.
Personally, I would have swapped Noah and Tyler. Tyler doesn’t really have much to do after he wins back Lindsay, while Noah still had his plot lines with Owen and Justin. You can just as easily say that Justin targeted Tyler since he stole Lindsay alliance away from him. Cool vid tho
Normally I’d say that a true strategist would never make such a stupid and petty decision (Noah and Owen are close, while Tyler and Owen aren’t, ergo Noah is the smarter choice to eliminate), but Justin is nothing but extremely petty, so I agree lol.
Action except Trent doesn’t have the number 9 obsession would be a video on its own
Action tried desenvolving characters that were already desenvolved, this is hy this season would be cool if had more non mergers :)
Imo, Eva could replace Geoff and Noah would replace Bridgette, they would have had more of a role, especially Eva, who was no longer used along with Katie and Sadie. (Katie and Sadie should honestly stay as a one dimensional contestant(s)
Eva honestly had more character and the Total 4X Drama redeemed her, her and Noah would have absolutely KILLED Justin (literally)
And with Izzy, it would be amazing if the Izzy, Noah and Eva alliance returned, that would be the stuff of gods.
In my opinion, this should have been the elimination order:
16th/15th: Trent & Gwen
*Teams Start*
*Team 1 - The Killer Grips*
Leader - Noah
Members: Eva, Izzy, Duncan, Harold, Leshawna
*Team 2 - The Screaming Gaffers(was this the name of the team?)*
Leader - Lindsay
Members: Beth, Justin, Heather, DJ, Owen
My Way(It starts now):
14th: Owen (Honestly had no character this season, compared to Island and World Tour)
13th: Beth (What did she even do this whole season?)
12th: Heather (Not a major contestant anymore, honestly had no role this season other than being bald)
*(Izzy Joins Team 2)*
11th: DJ (Quit because of Alliance with Chef)
*(Owen Rejoins)*
10th: Izzy (Suffering their first loss, the team agreed to vote off Izzy since she barely helped in certain challenges and was plain crazy, Noah and Eva are now the only hope to eliminate Justin)
9th: Leshawna (Hated doing that, but everyone else just had a better role, sorry)
MERGE (Courtney Joins)
Remaining:
Noah
Lindsay
Justin
Eva
Owen
Courtney
Duncan
Harold
8th: Owen (Yeah no, just no, I don't see why he was brought back this season, he would have fit more in All Stars imo)
7th: Eva (Sadly, Justin manipulated Lindsay into voting Eva, Courtney wanted her gone and literally held Duncan hostage and made him vote her off, Noah is the last one left)
6th: Justin (Noah had convinced Duncan and Courtney that he was evil and to vote him off, Lindsay accidentally voted for him when she was supposed to vote Courtney instead, since she lost the challenge)
5th: Harold (He played a good game, but everyone else had bigger roles, especially Noah)
4th/3rd: Courtney & Noah
Courtney: (She was annoying and Duncan had enough)
Noah: (Played a major game, needed this season to assure his iconic-ness in World Tour anyways)
2nd: Lindsay (THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BRUH😭😭 But fr, she had more depth than her own friend, and this was HER SEASON, none of these vids about Action would have existed if Lindsay's voice actor didn't have a family matter (Idk if it was major, but whatever it was, I hope that family member or anything else is okay now.)
1st: Duncan (Relatable, keeping him as the winner just felt right, don't worry, Lindsay wins in certain countries)
Amazing idea! I really love these ideas. Though also I have to say Gwen is just fine in this season, shes still like how she was in S1 mostly.
Okay, so this vid is funny to me, because I didn't find it until after I started it, but I actually DO have a fanfic on AO3 that is a rewrite of TDA, which includes both of these characters in the cast! (It's called 'Total Drama Refilming Action' if you're curious. At the time of this comment, I've gotten up to Episode 15 released)
I find it interesting because in your Episode 14 you booted Noah, but kept Tyler in the merge. For me, it's the other way around.
Tyler's on the Gaffers and Noah's on the Grips, and other than that the teams aren't changed (Courtney gets on the Grips). Tyler is mainly the gag character in the Gaffers and the moral support as opposed to the others drama. He tries to be a team player but most of his attempts backfire, though Gwen in my version sticks around until Episode 13 with the Gaffers mad at her, so Tyler flies under the radar of people to eliminate. He and Lindsay are on different teams, but he tries to keep in touch with her anyway, despite her not knowing his name (and she never learns it in this season because it'd contradict WT). He finds out about Justin's schemes after the Gwen incident, and they clash a little, especially on how Justin treats the girls (respect women) (and in this version Justin actually does stuff).
Episode 14 is more so of a Tyler focused episode as he makes an attempt to be a valuable player, only to be taken advantage of by Duncan (Duncan and Courtney are in an alliance and a relationship), and turns out Lindsay becomes more competent with her helping him and her starting fire. He and Lindsay are forced to be against each other in the tar pit fight, but neither decide to hurt each other. Lindsay nearly gets caught by a paradactyl, but Tyler sacrifices himself to get her to safety and let her win the round. Despite him throwing the point essentially, he decides it's more important to help others be strong players rather than prove himself. And he and Lindsay are closer together despite Lindsay still not knowing his name.
Unfortunately Duncan lost the tiebreaker of that challenge, but Duncan is able to convince Heather and Leshawna to vote for Tyler to save himself. So Tyler leaves. But he's okay with it because in his mind, he didn't lose. (There's even a bit where Lindsay says that if she wins, she'll share the money with him)
As for Noah, he is on the Grips, and he immediately has beef with Justin. This is due to past history they had before the show. (They went to the same middle school, Justin was always president due to his looks, and Noah was the secretary, and Justin not only proved himself an irresponsible executive, but he treated Noah like dirt.) Noah KNOWS what Justin is about. So because he won Island, Noah plans to start an alliance with Owen and use him to gain strategies on how to win. Owen, being naive, sees this as a friendship, something that Noah, at this point in the show, is not familiar with.
This makes the Grips divided in two once Trent is eliminated, because Justin has Beth and Lindsay deceived, and Noah has Owen and Izzy (Because Izzy is Owen's chic and not into Justin). Justin and Noah have a brains vs beauty rivalry going on that starts drama for the entire Grips team. Beth is into Justin, but Justin is using her. Lindsay is stressed from the clashing and wants to prove herself as a leader. Owen is into Justin so he wants everyone to get along. Izzy is... Izzy. The big difference with Justin and Beth's alliance and Noah and Owen's alliance, is that Justin, at the point I'm at in the rewrite, has not changed his opinion on Beth. She is a tool for him and he thinks she's ugly. (Oh yeah my rewrite Justin is really narcissistic and hates ugly people) Noah on the other hand sees Owen as a tool at first, but overtime due to Owen's kind nature, Noah begins to actually like and care about Owen, and even see him as a friend.
Justin finds out about that friendship and plots to break them up in Episode 10. He does so by reminding Noah of their past and where that got him, making Noah want to prove himself as not like Justin, so Noah breaks it up with Owen. Unfortunately this breakup causes Owen to break his jaw and get medically evacuated from the game. (He doesn't come back.) Justin manipulated the situation to break the alliance clashing on the team. Owen's injury, Noah, not intentionally, caused it. This is guilt Noah will feel throughout the rest of the season.
(Owen is in the Episode 12 Aftermath, and he says that he has no hard feelings about it btw)
Izzy gets booted because she called Justin 'not cute' (again, Justin is narcissistic, and though Noah is sarcastic and insults Justin regularly, it also makes it less meaningful to Justin when Noah says it). So Noah has no more allies, and he isn't getting any from his team, because Beth and Lindsay are TICKED that Noah broke Owen's jaw. They think he did it on purpose when he didn't, and he has a bad way of apologizing. (This is the Grips version of the Leshawna spa incident. So both teams have a member that they are ticked at for something.) So you'd think Noah's screwed, right?
No.
Along comes Courtney to join the team. And she has won every single challenge for the Grips up to the Merge. AND she single handedly has wiped out HALF of the Screaming Gaffers. (By Episode 13, The Gaffers had six people, Gwen, Heather, Duncan, Leshawna, Harold, and Tyler. By the Merge, it's just Duncan Leshawna and Harold left.)
Justin and Noah both realize this and that they have an even bigger threat than each other. They both know they need to do something about it and get rid of this CIT. They might even have to work together despite everything...
And that's where I'm at.
I like your version though. I think Tyler's character arc is very interesting and it's nice to give Lyler some love.
The fact that Lindsay and Beth's friendship made a huge difference in TDA
14:48
Finally… a challenge that was MADE for Tyler… I’m so proud 🥹
12:33 Justin’s elimination needs fixing, he was unfairly eliminated since he rescued Courtney which was the entire point of the challenge. But all of a sudden Chris changes the rules so Justin loses and gets voted out.
I agree that it’s an unfair challenge, I didn’t want to change it as to honour the rules of the season.
If I was to completely rewrite this episode I’d probably just make Chef the princess and have everyone compete.
@@VyseNodge yeah that’s what I would do, Justin sacrifice the win but in a fair way.
Here’s the rundown of Action
Duncan- Good
Beth- Pointless
Owen- Dumb Return
Courtney: Nightmare
Harold- Awesome
Lindsay- Amazing
Justin- Great
Leshawna- Good as usual
Heather- Decent
Izzy- A Mess
DJ- Good
Gwen- Just Sad
Trent- WTF Happened
Bridgette/Geoff- ☹️
You’ve got it a bit wrong.
Duncan - Great, but had too much plot armor and shouldn’t have made finale because of it. Loved his interactions with Courtney and Harold, though. Definitely helped carry throughout much of the middle and end of the season. Deserved final 4 or final 5. 8/10.
Beth - Not involved in any drama and didn’t have any reason to stick around after Justin left. Just a bland character tbh. Only worked as Justin’s pawn, and didn’t even get to really tell him off like she did Heather in TDI. Didn’t have chemistry with anyone else, really. Added nothing later on. 3/10.
Courtney - Breathed life into TDA, which had grown kinda stagnant with the Grips having no drama going on among them. Gave us a real antagonist too (Justin refused to lift a finger for anything and didn’t have any strategy beyond looking good). Definitely deserved her placement. 9/10.
Owen - Was fine at the very beginning, but shouldn’t have come back. Added nothing to the later episodes and just sort of got in the way of the real dynamics. 3/10.
Harold - Harold was awesome this season. He showed off his skills quite a few times, had great interactions with many other characters, and was quite funny a lot of the time. He definitely should have made it further than Beth. I think he deserves final 4 or final 3. 9/10.
Lindsay - Amazing development and humor. Lindsay really showed her stuff this season. She really did deserve to go further, as the only way the writers could axe her was by making her accidentally vote herself off. Deserved finale or final 3. 9/10.
Justin - Wanted to like Justin, and he was funny quite often, but he disappointed regularly as an antagonist. Didn’t do well in any challenges, didn’t try to keep the loyalty of Lindsay and Beth by contributing or charming them beyond a smile every now and then, and didn’t have any real merge strategy. 6/10.
Leshawna - Hated what they did with Leshawna tbh. Too much farting and too many depressing episodes. I do like the lying plot, as it shows a legitimate flaw of hers and threw the Gaffers into a good drama, but didn’t like how it was executed. 5/10.
Heather - Heather was fine, but too much of her character revolves around hair gags. I did like how shocking her elimination was, though. She was fine. Letting her get past the first episode was bs, though, as legit everyone would have voted her. 7/10.
Izzy - Izzy was entertaining as always. Her second elimination was kinda bs though, as Justin only did it because she said he wasn’t attractive to her. Would’ve been better if he did it because she’s the only one on the team who doesn’t like him. Still, Izzy did her job and left. Can’t be too upset. 7/10.
DJ - The cheating plotline was interesting, but DJ as a character kinda isn’t. He doesn’t have conflicts with the others, so I think him getting out early is good. Liked him enough. Probably the most interesting angle they could’ve done with him. 7/10.
Gwen - Gwen was good in the first few episodes and I suppose she did drive some good drama with getting Trent voted off. Because she was too attached to the 9-Trent plot, though, I’d say that I didn’t like her performance at all. Definitely deserved this placement. 3/10.
Trent - Completely ruined as a character and really didn’t feel like the guy from TDI at all. Trent could’ve been written to just be jealous of Duncan and therefore tried too hard to suck up to Gwen to prove himself better, only to make his team think of him as a traitor. This saves Gwent and doesn’t make the first few episodes terrible. Instead, we got 9-Trent. I hate 9-Trent. 0/10.
Geoff & Bridgette - Both were flanderized in the first two episodes, but I guess it’s fine because it’s an okay gag and the Aftermath segments were pretty interesting. Overall, liked them. 5/10.
I think that Harold vs Lindsay should’ve been the finale. In canon, Beth had no reason to be in the finale, I think the writers were too busy subverting expectations that they forgot who to consider as finalists. And I hate how Duncan won after bullying Harold the whole season.
Beth and Lindsay swap positions, Owen getting out in the space episode instead of Harold. Duncan and Courtney getting out in ep24 double elimination.
Tbh, I like the idea of a Harold vs Courtney Finale better. Both are incredibly powerful competitors and they have a hateful history. Could be a very intense finale.
My cousin and i came up with the idea of having harold vs duncan in the final 2 while having Courtney being in 3rd because then it could be very compelling to have the two dudes who hate each other and have a bully vs bullied dynamic which i think would be great. It would sound similar to cam vs lightning in revenge but 1. This wouldve happened before that so it would be very interesting in the dynamic and 2. My cousin hasnt seen revenge yet so he doesnt know about that ending, he has only seen the 1st episode of revenge
Idk why they didn't have Noah and Tyler in TDA since they were fan favorites but at least they did fairly good in TDWT.
Noah being in anything makes it better :)
Love everything about this, Harold-Lindsay finale is excellent
I personally think total drama action should focus on more of the non fan favorites
tyler really should have been in as. and leshawna. and for Pete’s sake, Anne Maria too… and brick. I’m mad they didn’t add tyler, leshawna, dj, Anne Maria, and brick weren’t added in as. anyways, I LOVE how you shaped this vid, and added Noah and Tyler too. they deserved to be in it,..
The way Katie was supposed to be in this deason plus Eva wouldve DEVOURED these challenges
THIS IS MY CAST FOR TOTAL DRAMA ACTION (THIS SORT OF INCLUDES A BIT OF MY WAY )
Cody ✅
Gwen ✅
Heather ✅
Izzy ✅
LeShawna ✅
Bridgette ✅
Justin ✅
DJ ✅
Lindsay ✅
Duncan ✅
Geoff ❌
Courtney ❌
Trent ✅
Noah ✅
Eva ✅
Owen ✅
Beth ❌
Harold ✅
Tyler ✅
Sadie ✅
Katie ✅
Ezekiel ❌
Noah is my favorite character and he should’ve won 1 season imo maybe some sort of another season with the original cast instead of the reboot Noah was great
I know I'm quite late and it's a slightly unusual pick, but I'd replace Tyler with Katie (and give Sadie the elimination you gave Bridgette). I love Tyler but I think the possibility of Justin being able to manipulate Katie, who'd feel isolated with Sadie going out early, is a really interesting dynamic.
All the eliminations flow in the same order you laid out here up until after Justin is eliminated (normally where I stop watching). After this point we're left with Katie, Lindsay, Harold, Duncan, Courtney and Owen. You need at least one of Duncan or Courtney in the final 3, otherwise the dynamic is all off due to everyone being heroic.
This presents two elimination order options I see:
A) 6th: Katie, 5th: Harold, 4th: Owen, 3rd: Courtney, Final: Lindsay v Duncan
B) 6th: Owen, 5th: Katie, 4th: Duncan, 3rd: Courtney, Final: Lindsay v Harold
It's a bit annoying trying to decide her as I'm against late entrants/returning players being finalists or winning, so Owen and Courtney can't win, putting Katie in the final feels wrong and I don't want a m-m final. I think option A is probably the better of the two as Duncan and Lindsay clash better as finalists than Lindsay and Harold.
Tyler would've been a lot of fun and is awesome, but he really feels like his only plot is being in a relationship with Lindsay and kind of just ends up being carried through thanks to there always being someone else to vote off. Alongside this it makes the targeting of Beth over Lindsay potentially make more sense as Beth could help act as a glue keeping Lindsay attached to Justin & Katie or have her be the target of a boys alliance between Justin, Duncan and Harold as they are out-numbered.
I'm glad I found this in my recommended
I love this idea cause Izzy, Noah, and Tyler, wouldn't like Justin
But Lindsay, Beth and Owen like Justin
So the first out can make for a fun round where Owen has to make the final decision, although Noah and Izzy would probably just tempt him with food
This is why in my elimination orders Tyler and Courtney are in and Noah debuts mid-season like Courtney in the original
do one on what if trent was in tdwt how would it play out?
This is funny how Bridgette got out on the Beach Episode
Could be explained as Bridgette taking charge for the challenges because she is a surfer before promptly messing up so badly that even Trent trying to throw the challenge can’t save the Gaffers lol.
Would make sense too, with Bridgette off her game after Geoff left and maybe feeling resentful that everyone voted for Geoff when Heather was legit right there.
Also Sadie and Katie should have been on tdwt so when they both interacted with Alejandro they both fight and you know how Katie said that she is prettier than Sadie? Keep that in mind. So Sadie is sad and she goes to Lindsay since first season they were nice with each other and Katie goes to Alejandro and she says that “I feel like I did something wrong to Sadie because I said that I was more prettier than her” then Alejandro says that Katie is more beautiful and Katie blushed and then Alejandro says “ Katie you are more beautiful because Sadies body size… ehh but yours is perfect!” Katie was so mad that he said that about her BFFFL and she ran away from Alejandro and told Sadie what Alejandro said about Sadie. Sadie was furious and I feel like they could have got farther since Lindsay is robbed kinda early and Katies voice actor could voice Katie more and I feel like they could have made it to merge too! Since that whole scene happened with Katie and Alejandro then they had plot armor and I feel like they replace where Courtney and Blainely got sent out so like Katie got voted off because of some people voted her because they thought she was useless and they could use Sadie for votes after on. Sadie was heartbroken and she said “ Wait! I am coming with you!” Everyone is like saying Sadie to shut up and Sadie then says “ I hated when you were voted off in the first season! It was horrible! Do I am coming with you!” Chris then says that she can go because of the same reason like the blah blah blah and happy ever after for Sadie and Katie and OH MY GOD I SPENT SO MUCH ON THIS
noah, tyler and eva are like the most underrated characters
What’s the better final 2?
Duncan Vs Beth
or
Lindsay Vs Harold
Duncan vc Harold better
This content is very underrated, keep it up! :)
I feel like Lindsay would choose the raccoon since it was the cutest and Harold would choose the chameleon since it is the closest to his snail Leshawna. And then with Tyler and Lindsay as a twi person alliance, they would vote off Harold. Then Tyker would intentionally sliw diwn so he can give Lindsay a fair chance, since it is what she would have wanted. And maybe Tyler could promise to give 3/4 if the money to Lindsay, with Lindsay promising to take Tyler and Beth to a tropical vacation, and Tyler accepting it, as he understands how important Beth is to Lindsay as Tyker is to Beth. Lindsay could promise to get some things fir Tyler as well.
That would be way too boring, as it would provide very little tension in an already-lagging finale. Tyler and Lindsay aren’t going to be very competitive against each other.
In my opinion I think that Noah and owens placements should be swapped and instead of Duncan getting out Harold does. Then in final 3 Duncan tries to get Lindsay out but tyler self votes to save Lindsay.
Yes way better than the actual season
Literally my two favorite characters
I would've replaced Geoff and Bridgette with Noah and Tyler, cause if they were gonna be made hosts of aftermath anyway then I would've preferred that they just weren't in it at all, and also out of all the "geek" characters I would've much rather seen, Noah or Harold go against duncan
This video is amazing and I agree with everything you said
Action is my favorite, the only thing id change is the final, it couldve been Duncan vs Lindsay, Duncan vs Harold, Harold vs Lindsay, even Courtney against any of then mentioned, but they chose Beth 💀
Before watching id put eva on the grips to interact with izzy noah and owen while justin manipulates linds tyler and beth
Tyler and Noah would make TDA 10/10
Creo que si Tyler entraba a Luz Drama Acción habría odiado a Justin
There's definitely no Tyler bias
Doesn’t seem like it tbh. Tyler being mad at Justin for flirting with Lindsay and Lindsay deciding between the two is honestly an interesting arc idea that could’ve given TDA some much needed drama with the Killer Grips.
Beyond that, Tyler isn’t ever really going to be on anyone’s radar with everyone else feuding. Makes sense that he’d go far in this scenario, but that he also wouldn’t make finale.
@@DoomzdehI meant that Tyler reached the finale on his first 2 videos, and also made it very far on the next two, I don't have a problem with it, it was just a funny thing to point out
Realistically, TDA shpuld have had Cody, Zeke, and Tyler
I wish Ezekiel was in action :(
Aslo I think ur forgetting that owen likes lizzy so why would owen like Justin
Owen was shown to have a slight crush on Justin in the first episode.
@@CertifiedRectangle ya
@@CertifiedRectangle exactly
2:38 Not until season 3
You know what else would fix Action? If Trent didn't throw challenges for Gwen and wasn't obsessed about the number 9. Bad move by the writers
I agree
True
Tyler is good but Eva would be better than Noah cuz Eva can have character development and interact with more people unlike Noah who was just more cannon fodder than a real character until season 3 or the tdi special
We needed Ezekiel
What if Courtney never was added to the cast this one would be cool to see.
You do know if Tyler competed in Action, Lindsay would vote him out by mistake in Rock n' Rule, right?
This is great!
18/17 Geoff Brigette
16 DJ
15 Owen
14 Trent
Owen returns
13 Izzy
12 Owen
11 Gwen
Rest is the same
Cody, Eva and Zeke would've fixed TDA too
I think katie and tyler should have replaced bridgette and geoff so there is no double katie and tyler make it atleast top 5
Duncan was the winner this was too much owe vote with us too vote that person off like that barely happened it would not have kept happening
tda doesnt need fixing tbh, its def a GREAT season
Nah, TDA was by far the worst one out of the original three seasons. Even ROTI was a more entertaining season imo.
@@dingdongpaddiwack funny joke
tda was much better than TDWT and i will die on this hill. TDWT was the beginning of the end and bastardized season 1 characters. people say 'trent was handled poorly in tda' and- you're right, but it doesnt compare to the mishandling that was done in TDWT.
another thing- chef and chris are at their peak in this season, and same with the setting and challenges. it allows you to suspend disbelief and gives the same vibe that the original had in surplus- a reality show. TDWD doesnt have that, its absurdist at best and downright nonsensical at worst.
and the claim that ROTI is genuinely worrying me about ur mental health, u good man?
@@dazedandconfused5711 I kinda agree with you. Most of the OG cast was derailed by TDWT, but that derailment started in TDA. And unlike TDWT, TDA just felt boring. The cast was smaller and the episodes felt like they just dragged on. The challenges in Action, for the most part, were boring and not as memorable as in Island or World Tour imo. At least ROTI felt like a breath of fresh air with a new cast compared to the disappointing follow up that Action was. I'm surprised the show didn't get cancelled after TDA.
@@dingdongpaddiwack I personally disagree with you but i can see where you are coming from
Two characters fix the season.
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They both get cut pre-merge. Such click-bait.
Total Drama Action felt kind of boring
But Tda is the best season
Opinion
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 ok but no one else says “in my opinion”