What if Beth rejoined in total drama world tour instead of Blainey? (I'm not sure if this one would be as interesting as the others but I like the idea of this)
can you give links to these tierlist for each of the seasons, wanna recreate them with a bit more logic than the writers bias to villians in all seasons
I'm glad that Duncan never came back in this timeline because that would mean that the love triangle between Gwen, Duncan, and Courtney would've never happened.
I mean it might’ve still happened but much later and possibly in better terms. Like I think Duncan might permanently break up with Courtney due to the amount of stress from the show (since I think all threes were in a spam of a year.) and Courtney being overly controlling over him, like bruh the girl gave him a binder that basically says “oi bitch! Here’s the list of things I want to change about yourself to the point that you wouldn’t be the same person anymore. I’m saying this because even if he doesn’t come back, it was clear that the who gwuncan thing has been set up since action and o don’t think they would do all that build up just for a red herring. As for how this will affect all stars, Gwen will be either hero or villain because if you remove the love triangle while she is definitely a good person she isn’t necessarily the most approachable or has the best attitude and tends to lash out on people that are trying to be nice to her at times. This also gives both Gwen and Duncan a better plotline for them than in canon, Gwen would actually listen to Duncan about mal since she knows that he’s not the type of person to make this all up and take it seriously at the same time. Courtney wouldn’t necessarily care for them being a couple since her and Duncan had broken up at this point for nearly two whole years but you can see her feeling bad on how she basically ruin their relationship and see him being more happy with Gwen than she was back in island, Courtney will still have the whole chart thing but it’ll be revealed much earlier and would be more heartbreaking since Gwen wouldn’t see her as a villain like the majority of the cast but when the chart does reveal Gwen would feel betrayed and would most likely sob like in sucker punched, some people will call Courtney the new heather and Gwen might even say “you really ARE a villain….” As for the gwuncan confession, I bet it’ll be something like their interaction in the Area 51 episode but roles would be reversed, Duncan would say something like “look, to say that we had a rough year two years ago Is an understatement but if you feel like you still like Trent and want to be with him that is fine, if you just don’t feel like pursuing a relationship now then that’s alright two. I didn’t confess up until now because I wanted to give you time to breath and hey, I already waited for two years right? What is it to say that I can’t wait for two more-“ then Gwen kisses him to shut him up and they become a couple
Also thx for using my idea! I was thinking of two alternate versions of this story. What if Ezekiel returned instead of Duncan or what if both Duncan AND Ezekiel returned.
If team amazon loses in London, Heather may convince Sierra to vote Gwen off instead of her. She just need to point that Cody is ignoring Sierra because of Gwen and the fact that once Heather is gone, the next target is Sierra. Then, the votes would be 2 for Gwen (Sierra and Heather), 2 for Heather (Courtney and Gwen) and 1 for Sierra (Cody). I believe Heather can beat Gwen in a tiebreaker.
@@jbetoreb Doubt that would work very well though. Sierra is not a very reliable ally and could just as easily see that Heather is merely trying to manipulate her. The easiest maneuver is to vote for Sierra with Cody. She knows that Cody will vote for Sierra, so all she has to do is get Cody to convince Gwen to vote for Sierra too. All she’d have to do is tell him that she’ll help him, but that he needs to convince Gwen himself (Gwen won’t listen to Heather directly and Cody is Gwen’s friend). It might be a possible sell. As much as Gwen hates Heather, even she is likely to acknowledge that Sierra sneaking off (and forcing Cody to go with her) during the challenge was dumb and might have costed them the win. Sierra is also creepy and I’m sure that Gwen sympathizes with Cody about that (she legit steals his toothbrushes and rubs his feet while he sleeps). Plus, Gwen will likely concede in the end that she can likely just get rid of Heather another day. She’s put up with Heather for this long, while Cody can’t bear Sierra for another day. Maybe Gwen even gives Heather a temporary pass because she stretched her on the rack earlier and because Heather is more useful in challenges? Either way, that’s 3 votes for Sierra and 2 for Heather. If Heather also tries to convince Sierra to vote for Gwen like you said (in case Gwen votes for Heather anyway), Heather almost certainly ends up with less votes than Sierra does. Sierra is eliminated, and Heather has endeared herself to Cody by making it possible and setting it up. Honestly shocked that Heather didn’t think of this strategy in the Amazon challenge.
It’s because Chris wouldn’t lose 13, and Heather stands no chance in hell after that. Al would spend his remaining energy trying to eliminate Noah the first chance he gets, and he needs Tyler for that Al genuinely hates Owen, and without Duncan and the love triangle mess, Tyler would literally be his only remaining potential ally It’s pretty interesting to watch Alejandro fun the game like this
I think Tyler genuinely would reach the finals here. But not in Island when Ezekiel makes sexist comments. His entire team hated him and there’s just no way he survives that many ceremonies, he’d probably be gone in the talent show tbh
Yeah because that would mean that the love triangle would've never happened. Plus, Gwen would never have to feel guilty about kissing Duncan, since it never happened in this timeline.
I think heather’s a character that’s ALWAYS supposed to be safe until the final 4 in these cases in TDWT. She’s too impactful to undermine, because her relationship with Alejandro MADE TDWT great instead of good
So Duncan’s return saved her The only reason Heather was able to sneak by in Amazon was getting saved by the no call in 8, the fact that Courtney and Gwen’s friendship was ripped apart by Duncan’s return, and that Cody consistently only voted for Sierra Without Duncan to break them, Gwen and Courtney would always team up to vote off Heather, and Sierra would probably go with them
@@Duval-In-The-Wall sierra has always hated heather since she does a lot of fanatic studies of the show, and is a fanfiction type of person, heather would have been booted off, in fact not only did duncan save heather, but it also uplifted alejandros villain arc, and kinda saved him, bc he wouldn't get tyler, courtney and gwen eliminated, which means courtney and gwen would gun for him too
@@theonlygoodonehere2259if team amazon loses in London, Heather may convince Sierra to vote Gwen off instead of her. She just need to point that Cody is ignoring Sierra because of Gwen and the fact that once Heather is gone, the next target is Sierra. Then, the votes would be 2 for Gwen (Sierra and Heather), 2 for Heather (Courtney and Gwen) and 1 for Sierra (Cody). I believe Heather can beat Gwen in a tiebreaker.
@@jbetoreb I can see it playing off 2 ways though, if Sierra is as smart as what everyone thinks she is, she would see her manipulation from far away, the fanfiction part is so important because I believe she would have an ability realize from season 1 that gwen never liked cody like that and thought he was annoying, but who knows, I could see it play both ways, maybe heather counters it by saying she cheated with duncan on courtney, its a tough spectrum to cover
Good idea, I think that scenario could work if Izzy never got injured in Jamaica, that way Noah, Owen and Izzy’s alliance can win against Alejandro and Tyler’s.
I don't see how Noah could convince Tyler to vote Alejandro since Owen states that him and Alejandro got tight when they both got kidnapped by Ezekiel.
@@havikrogers1801I mean, Noah could probably convince Duncan to vote Al in a scenario where Duncan still comes back but Izzy doesn’t leave. After all, no one likes a tiebreaker in the TD universe apparently
I like how it played out, but I'm pretty sure Chris wouldn't do a double elimination in China. Especially because it would counteract that extra episode later on in the season. Chris only got rid of Courtney and Blaineley in China because they were both getting on his nerves (y;know with the whole love triangle and cheating), but in this timeline, Cody had done nothing out of line other that call out Blaineley for cheating.
Ye I feel like chris only does single elimination here. Blainely goes for sure. Cody stays imo because I think blarney cheating in the challenge takes more priority. Cody not singing in challenges is potentially a reason to boot both but imo that rule is silly because there are instances of other contestants not singing so feels weird to single out Cody. As for the remainder of this timelinw. Because Cody is still there with Gwen and Owen and Alejandro still winning in Africa. He can't save Tyler now so Tyler goes here In drumheller Gwen gets the drill and Alejandro gets the axe. So pretty sure Gwen wins here. This means Alejandro goes now. The aftermath challenge Cody gets same helpers. I imagine Gwen gets Courtney as a helper and in the original Courtney wins this so Gwen get the wheel barrel. I like the idea of Chris ditching them all in drumheller. Similar to the castaways episode in TDI. So the race to Hawaii challenge still happens. The junk from the plane doesn't exist but they still get to search through a pile of stuff. Ultimately though I doubt it matters I dont think Owen ever wins a race to Hawaii so he goes. This leaves Gwen and Cody and tbh Cody simps for Gwen too hard and probably lets her win. You can maybe argue that codys helpers convince him otherwise.. codys helpers are Harold and Sierra. Gwens helpers are Courtney and Leshawna. Gwen isn't completely heartless and thinks its cool that Cody is letting her win and she gives him a cut of it. I dont think its a TDA situation where she is upset that Cody is purposefully throwing because well Cody is a simp and its the finale anyway. I suppose there could be a timeline of Cody winning but sierra does most of the work 😆. In this timeline he probably gives sierra a cut for carrying the finale challenge. Cody gets some money in either timeline. Cody Ws all around.
that isn't the ONLY reason they kicked courtney and blaineley out in the original, they were also having problems with budget and kicking two people out saves money.
Actually, they both got eliminated because production was giving him problems with budget, and that saved money. Granted, I agree that I don't think there would be a double elimination since they are now six people instead of seven, so it doesn't seem likely they would have two people eliminated.
For Pahkitew Island, what if Wawanakwa didn't sink in TDAS. If would effect a lot more than having Scarlett not be evil. Major Changes: Scarlett can't take over the island, which would effect her gameplay and the finale would be different.
I'd still love to see Scarlett as a genius villain because it's fun (love rooting for the villains haha) but keep her in for longer and the reveal of her actually being "evil" should happen if she'd get to the final 3
I think there’s a somewhat important detail that you didn’t mention. In the Aftermath comeback challenge, the final question that Blaineley blurted out was the name of Duncan’s punk band from when he was found in London. Without him being found in London, this detail is unknown because no one knew where he was (hence the Duncan spitting aftermath segments). However, it is virtually impossible to predict what the new question would have been, so you probably made the right call
Said this last time, but what if Scott was put on the Mutant Maggots instead of the Toxic Rats? He'd have the same strategy, but since he's on a different team he'd have different targets. Also great video, I adore the alternate-history genre
It would pretty much go like: First episode goes the same and Staci is voted off. Second episode he sabotages the challenge and gets Cameron voted off for being weak and scrawny. Third episode, he let's B melt the castle and convinces the Maggots to vote Mike off for playing character too much.. The rest tho idk, I'll let the creator of this video figure that out
I honestly think that Alejandro wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance against Tyler, not only Tyler has more support but his determination is much greater than Alejandros and he would lose by quite a big margin. And if feral Ezekiel tried to steal 1M $, Tyler would simply kick him in the volcano and save his well deserved money
Here’s an idea I had. In the first episode Revenge of the Island, Mike and Zoey arrived at the same time, and Mike was going to be put on the Toxic Rats, but then Dawn arrived and she was put on the rats instead. So what if Dawn arrived just a bit later and Mike was put on the Toxic Rats while Dawn was put on the Mutant Maggots?
Also, something you could've done is have no one catch Zeke in the London episode and have him return instead of Duncan. Chris did say that he was gonna let Ezekiel back into the game if he wadsn't caught.
The Tyler ending is my ending 😍 head cannon Alejandro just starts shitting on Tyler the moment they vote out Gwen and then Tyler has an epic character arc, the fan fic energy is steaming
I just got two ideas for you that I don't see done often. Also love this video, I adored the Owen and Tyler Tie-Breaker. XD So, first idea. Is what if Izzy never switched with Katie? Given how in the first episode, this could make or break the Gophers losing or winning. Could be an interesting change! And the second idea, is if what if Sierra and Izzy never switched places in World Tour. Since it would shake up the dynamics in Team Chris and even change Sierra's role throughout the season. (I can see her playing Izzy's role in Noah and Owen's friendgroup) and how Izzy would interact with the girls in Team Amazon.
Personally with the merge rejoiner I think Sierra would end up rejoining because Geoff just didn’t want Blainley getting paid, and if Sierra blurted out the answer Geoff would probably use that to end the show faster
This one was pretty intense! The idea about African tie is great, really loved it and it fits so well here. Suggesting again, what if Courtney was in Action from the beginning, getting in Trent’s team and making alliance with him (because well, they both jealous to Duncan and Gwen’s friendship, so there’s a motive)
Personally I think the tiebreaker between Owen and Tyler should have been a Western-style duel, where they stand in place, and they shoot eachother using the Slingshots & Paralysis Balls. The aim of the tiebreaker being 'whoever goes down first loses', with no outside help, which does put Tyler at a severe disadvantage because Owen is a massive guy, thus requiring more hits to take him down. Tyler being Tyler can't aim for sh@t but would maybe hit Owen once, funnily enough it would either be directly in the face or the kiwi's. However as we've seen in TDI's Paintball Deer Hunting challenge, Owen is not the best shot either BUT I do think Owen would ultimately win because he would probably only need to hit Tyler twice for him to lose, and I think Owen could manage that even with the fact that his face is potentially paralyzed. Not to mention; I think without Heather, Alejandro needs someone to direct all his energy toward defeating, and It was Owen & Noah that Alejandro ultimately despised the most. And honestly having the finale being the Ultimate Good Guy Owen Vs the Ultimate Bad Guy Alejandro would be an as incredible finale as Evil Vs Wicked in Heather Vs Alejandro.
Could you do what if Courtney was dropped over Gwen in picnic over hanging dork cause Cody caused the tie and we all know Cody, had he not been disoriented, would have voted Courtney.
This might be a bit ambitious, but what if you did a poll and asked which contestants people would most want to see come back, and then selected the top 16 or so and went through a hypothetical season with that cast? Or alternatively, what if you chose the BOTTOM 16 from that poll? It'd probably just be mostly Pahkitew Island characters lol
I'd like to see what would happen if Harold never sacrificed himself in World Tour. For that vote, DJ and Tingting (Lindsay doesn't vote), vote for DJ, while Harold and Bridgette vote for Harold. Leshawna's vote is not explicitly shown, but it's either DJ or Harold. It's between Harold and DJ, and ultimately it comes down to who Leshawna voted for. When Chris is about to say that Harold is safe, Harold cuts in and eliminates himself, for honour. I'd like to see what's different if Harold stayed in, and DJ was eliminated.
I have two episodes ideas: 1.what if Duncan and Gwen didnt kiss in TDWT 2.what if elimination and non elimination rounds swaped in TDA (that now elimination were non elimination and non elimination elemination)
How I think it’d go: Episode 13: Non Elimination Episode 14: Gwen and Noah volunteer, and Gwen beats Noah. Wrestling goes as normal and Alejandro loses Hirdles to Heather like canon. I actually don’t think Cody would win, since he was scared for Gwen. Tyler didn’t accomplish either though, so I think it would end in a draw. I think Chris would do something similar to episode 7 in TDPI. In 15, I agree with team Chris winning and Heather gets out here. However, the amazons would then win and Noah gets out here. Episode 17 is non elimination. Merge: Alejandro Courtney Cody Sierra Owen Blainely Tyler Gwen Alejandro and Courtney win immunity. Cody asks everyone to vote Sierra, so him, Gwen and Courtney do so. However, Alejandro tells Sierra and Tyler to vote Gwen to break up the allies. He also convinces Blainely, but not Owen. I think he throws his vote away on to Courtney, but Gwen is gone. I think Sierra, Owen and Blainely get top 3, and Owen wins. Courtney and Cody vote Sierra, but everyone else chooses Courtney. I still think Chris makes a last minute double though, and they both go home. Blainely doesn’t get exposed. Her alliance with Chef continues along with Owen, but Alejandro wins and convinces Tyler and Cody to vote Owen for being a threat. Owen goes home. In Drumheller, Blainely gets out and in episode 25, Alejandro would easily win. Without Sierra, Cody gets nowhere and I think Tyler would… luck through and Cody goes home. Finale: Alejandro vs Tyler.
6:50 It's strange how Alejandro and Tyler would work together when Alejandro flirted with Tyler's girl at the start of the season. Like wouldn't Noah tell Tyler that he flirted with Lindsay and get him on his side.
What if Dj got to continue in world tour? Like what if since Izzy got removed he was allowed to take her place on team Chris is really really really really hot
What if every total drama Island elimination was a proper fair voting? Izzy doesn't just leave from the RCMP hunting her, no Harold rigging, Lindsay and Dj don't get out from losing a challenge, Leshawna isn't voted off by accident and instead they all actually vote off who they want to vote off
Jesus how many eliminations would change here haha Justin in episode 5, Tyler in 7 (Courtney threw the challenge), Izzy’s take in 8, Cody’s full injury in 9, Harold rigging the vote in 12, Chris properly disqualifying the Gophers because Heather never crossed the line in 13, Heather’s BS immunity in 16/17, the insane rules in 18, DJ’s scream in 19, the fact that the winner didn’t even get immunity in 20, and of course, Leshawna’s elimination in 22. Episode 23 was a waste of time In terms of purely unfair in terms of the show’s rules, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 22 have unfair challenge results/eliminations
I do like the idea of the what if tie breaker, but I think Owen would have been able to yeet Tyler out of the plane before Tyler could lure him anywhere. Realistically, he's closer with Gwen than Tyler, and Gwen would be on the sidelines yelling about literally just pushing him out. I feel like it's a little mean for him, but then I remembered him in the dodgeball challenge, and I don't think it's a stretch.
Some random ideas : What if Gwen and Trent never broke up in Action What if Courtney never came back in Action What if Ezekiel won the challenge and came back in I See London What if Harold didnt quit in WT What if DJ didnt quit in Action What if Scott was in the other team in TDROTI
I feel like if Duncan didn't come back, they could have/would have done the thing that could've happened in the London Episode, where Ezekial is offered to come back if he can capture all the contestants. Of course, instead, he actually does. (Don't know if you already made a video on this, but I would love to see one)
one small nitpick, owen in action said in the aftermath while hooked up to a lie detector that he didn’t really mind that courtney voted him off unfairly, but overall i think the courtney elimination in this timeline is still pretty fair
hey i just got another world tour idea that you could do, can you make what if world tour had 2 teams instead of 3 with the plot still being the same with duncan coming back too.
had a loose idea TDI if the random leshawna situation didn't happen or the vote there was more honest (they voted off who they wanted to lose) tho it was somewhat late in the show, so it probably wouldn't change show drastically
Tbh, the Greece non-elimination isn’t even an issue. You can just argue that maybe Chris would call London a non-elimination to save Heather, only to have Heather end up eliminated in Greece anyway.
Thanks for watching, feel free to leave your thoughts here!
I don't get why Chris would be pressured to send two out in China. They'd have a smaller cast there
@@noimnotgoingtoenteraname the logic behind that was that the producers had been nagging him all episode and this was to get them off his back
What if Beth rejoined in total drama world tour instead of Blainey? (I'm not sure if this one would be as interesting as the others but I like the idea of this)
If Gwen didn't vote herself off in Action
can you give links to these tierlist for each of the seasons, wanna recreate them with a bit more logic than the writers bias to villians in all seasons
I'm glad that Duncan never came back in this timeline because that would mean that the love triangle between Gwen, Duncan, and Courtney would've never happened.
And wt became the #1 show ever
I mean it might’ve still happened but much later and possibly in better terms. Like I think Duncan might permanently break up with Courtney due to the amount of stress from the show (since I think all threes were in a spam of a year.) and Courtney being overly controlling over him, like bruh the girl gave him a binder that basically says “oi bitch! Here’s the list of things I want to change about yourself to the point that you wouldn’t be the same person anymore. I’m saying this because even if he doesn’t come back, it was clear that the who gwuncan thing has been set up since action and o don’t think they would do all that build up just for a red herring.
As for how this will affect all stars, Gwen will be either hero or villain because if you remove the love triangle while she is definitely a good person she isn’t necessarily the most approachable or has the best attitude and tends to lash out on people that are trying to be nice to her at times. This also gives both Gwen and Duncan a better plotline for them than in canon, Gwen would actually listen to Duncan about mal since she knows that he’s not the type of person to make this all up and take it seriously at the same time. Courtney wouldn’t necessarily care for them being a couple since her and Duncan had broken up at this point for nearly two whole years but you can see her feeling bad on how she basically ruin their relationship and see him being more happy with Gwen than she was back in island, Courtney will still have the whole chart thing but it’ll be revealed much earlier and would be more heartbreaking since Gwen wouldn’t see her as a villain like the majority of the cast but when the chart does reveal Gwen would feel betrayed and would most likely sob like in sucker punched, some people will call Courtney the new heather and Gwen might even say “you really ARE a villain….”
As for the gwuncan confession, I bet it’ll be something like their interaction in the Area 51 episode but roles would be reversed, Duncan would say something like “look, to say that we had a rough year two years ago Is an understatement but if you feel like you still like Trent and want to be with him that is fine, if you just don’t feel like pursuing a relationship now then that’s alright two. I didn’t confess up until now because I wanted to give you time to breath and hey, I already waited for two years right? What is it to say that I can’t wait for two more-“ then Gwen kisses him to shut him up and they become a couple
Also thx for using my idea! I was thinking of two alternate versions of this story. What if Ezekiel returned instead of Duncan or what if both Duncan AND Ezekiel returned.
The love triangle was good
@@bioexist or it COULD’VE been good.
Duncan pretty much saved Heather's ass cuz it was pretty clear that her team would try to vote her off in the first opportunity
And she was in episode 8. There is no way Heather wins World Tour without the love triangle.
And I’m SO glad that he did save her ass! 😩
@Noah Chipman I prefer her ending but Alejandro definitely played the better game that season.
If team amazon loses in London, Heather may convince Sierra to vote Gwen off instead of her. She just need to point that Cody is ignoring Sierra because of Gwen and the fact that once Heather is gone, the next target is Sierra. Then, the votes would be 2 for Gwen (Sierra and Heather), 2 for Heather (Courtney and Gwen) and 1 for Sierra (Cody). I believe Heather can beat Gwen in a tiebreaker.
@@jbetoreb Doubt that would work very well though. Sierra is not a very reliable ally and could just as easily see that Heather is merely trying to manipulate her.
The easiest maneuver is to vote for Sierra with Cody. She knows that Cody will vote for Sierra, so all she has to do is get Cody to convince Gwen to vote for Sierra too. All she’d have to do is tell him that she’ll help him, but that he needs to convince Gwen himself (Gwen won’t listen to Heather directly and Cody is Gwen’s friend).
It might be a possible sell. As much as Gwen hates Heather, even she is likely to acknowledge that Sierra sneaking off (and forcing Cody to go with her) during the challenge was dumb and might have costed them the win. Sierra is also creepy and I’m sure that Gwen sympathizes with Cody about that (she legit steals his toothbrushes and rubs his feet while he sleeps).
Plus, Gwen will likely concede in the end that she can likely just get rid of Heather another day. She’s put up with Heather for this long, while Cody can’t bear Sierra for another day. Maybe Gwen even gives Heather a temporary pass because she stretched her on the rack earlier and because Heather is more useful in challenges?
Either way, that’s 3 votes for Sierra and 2 for Heather. If Heather also tries to convince Sierra to vote for Gwen like you said (in case Gwen votes for Heather anyway), Heather almost certainly ends up with less votes than Sierra does. Sierra is eliminated, and Heather has endeared herself to Cody by making it possible and setting it up.
Honestly shocked that Heather didn’t think of this strategy in the Amazon challenge.
I love the idea of Duncan not returning, it makes way more sense. He wins the money and he dips, he doesn’t need another million
@@jacketpotato423 to be fair, Gwen doesn’t get to keep her 100k Duncan does get to keep his million
@@jacketpotato423yeah but if cannon goes right she trades it for a million and loses it
It would make less sense it Beth's ending, however
@@Dabayaba7273 I mean in Duncan win her parents had to sell their car so their both cannon and we both know Courtney spent Duncan money
Duncan spent probably a hefty amount of his money to buy lawyers to win custody over his pet racoon
The fact that this man can be so biased towards Tyler and still convince me how he could win is just wow
He is really biased to Tyler though tbh
It’s because Chris wouldn’t lose 13, and Heather stands no chance in hell after that. Al would spend his remaining energy trying to eliminate Noah the first chance he gets, and he needs Tyler for that
Al genuinely hates Owen, and without Duncan and the love triangle mess, Tyler would literally be his only remaining potential ally
It’s pretty interesting to watch Alejandro fun the game like this
I don’t think this one is biased but I do think the island one was
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 in my opinion all of them so far we biased and he was picking his favorites to make it farther
I think Tyler genuinely would reach the finals here. But not in Island when Ezekiel makes sexist comments. His entire team hated him and there’s just no way he survives that many ceremonies, he’d probably be gone in the talent show tbh
If this did happen, it would make All Stars better. Gwen and Courtney would’ve still been friends and Courtney would’ve won All Stars maybe
Yeah because that would mean that the love triangle would've never happened. Plus, Gwen would never have to feel guilty about kissing Duncan, since it never happened in this timeline.
@@Hi-cm1cj so then the show would have to make some new drama, or else the show would feel dry
@@totaldramablaineley What about Mal?
@Mario & Sonic Fan that would be a good idea!
It means that this entire stupid love triangle wouldn't exist and I love that.
I think heather’s a character that’s ALWAYS supposed to be safe until the final 4 in these cases in TDWT. She’s too impactful to undermine, because her relationship with Alejandro MADE TDWT great instead of good
So Duncan’s return saved her
The only reason Heather was able to sneak by in Amazon was getting saved by the no call in 8, the fact that Courtney and Gwen’s friendship was ripped apart by Duncan’s return, and that Cody consistently only voted for Sierra
Without Duncan to break them, Gwen and Courtney would always team up to vote off Heather, and Sierra would probably go with them
@@Duval-In-The-Wall sierra has always hated heather since she does a lot of fanatic studies of the show, and is a fanfiction type of person, heather would have been booted off, in fact not only did duncan save heather, but it also uplifted alejandros villain arc, and kinda saved him, bc he wouldn't get tyler, courtney and gwen eliminated, which means courtney and gwen would gun for him too
@@Duval-In-The-Wallif Duncan didn’t visit some gross London bar that one night Heather never would have got to hold a million dollars… that’s crazy
@@theonlygoodonehere2259if team amazon loses in London, Heather may convince Sierra to vote Gwen off instead of her. She just need to point that Cody is ignoring Sierra because of Gwen and the fact that once Heather is gone, the next target is Sierra. Then, the votes would be 2 for Gwen (Sierra and Heather), 2 for Heather (Courtney and Gwen) and 1 for Sierra (Cody). I believe Heather can beat Gwen in a tiebreaker.
@@jbetoreb I can see it playing off 2 ways though, if Sierra is as smart as what everyone thinks she is, she would see her manipulation from far away, the fanfiction part is so important because I believe she would have an ability realize from season 1 that gwen never liked cody like that and thought he was annoying, but who knows, I could see it play both ways, maybe heather counters it by saying she cheated with duncan on courtney, its a tough spectrum to cover
What if Alejandro got voted off in I See London; basically Noah somehow convinces Tyler to vote off Alejandro.
Good idea, I think that scenario could work if Izzy never got injured in Jamaica, that way Noah, Owen and Izzy’s alliance can win against Alejandro and Tyler’s.
@@karimeilleur5088 yeah
@@JaviKoopa Izzy was unfairly eliminated, she should’ve stayed in
I don't see how Noah could convince Tyler to vote Alejandro since Owen states that him and Alejandro got tight when they both got kidnapped by Ezekiel.
@@havikrogers1801I mean, Noah could probably convince Duncan to vote Al in a scenario where Duncan still comes back but Izzy doesn’t leave. After all, no one likes a tiebreaker in the TD universe apparently
I like how it played out, but I'm pretty sure Chris wouldn't do a double elimination in China. Especially because it would counteract that extra episode later on in the season. Chris only got rid of Courtney and Blaineley in China because they were both getting on his nerves (y;know with the whole love triangle and cheating), but in this timeline, Cody had done nothing out of line other that call out Blaineley for cheating.
It could be played off as Chris finally acting on Cody not singing in every episode
Ye I feel like chris only does single elimination here. Blainely goes for sure. Cody stays imo because I think blarney cheating in the challenge takes more priority. Cody not singing in challenges is potentially a reason to boot both but imo that rule is silly because there are instances of other contestants not singing so feels weird to single out Cody.
As for the remainder of this timelinw.
Because Cody is still there with Gwen and Owen and Alejandro still winning in Africa. He can't save Tyler now so Tyler goes here
In drumheller Gwen gets the drill and Alejandro gets the axe. So pretty sure Gwen wins here. This means Alejandro goes now.
The aftermath challenge Cody gets same helpers. I imagine Gwen gets Courtney as a helper and in the original Courtney wins this so Gwen get the wheel barrel.
I like the idea of Chris ditching them all in drumheller. Similar to the castaways episode in TDI. So the race to Hawaii challenge still happens. The junk from the plane doesn't exist but they still get to search through a pile of stuff. Ultimately though I doubt it matters I dont think Owen ever wins a race to Hawaii so he goes.
This leaves Gwen and Cody and tbh Cody simps for Gwen too hard and probably lets her win. You can maybe argue that codys helpers convince him otherwise.. codys helpers are Harold and Sierra. Gwens helpers are Courtney and Leshawna. Gwen isn't completely heartless and thinks its cool that Cody is letting her win and she gives him a cut of it. I dont think its a TDA situation where she is upset that Cody is purposefully throwing because well Cody is a simp and its the finale anyway. I suppose there could be a timeline of Cody winning but sierra does most of the work 😆. In this timeline he probably gives sierra a cut for carrying the finale challenge. Cody gets some money in either timeline. Cody Ws all around.
that isn't the ONLY reason they kicked courtney and blaineley out in the original, they were also having problems with budget and kicking two people out saves money.
Actually, they both got eliminated because production was giving him problems with budget, and that saved money. Granted, I agree that I don't think there would be a double elimination since they are now six people instead of seven, so it doesn't seem likely they would have two people eliminated.
What If Trent Never Became a Lunatic.
Better Action
Better World Tour
No Love Triangle
And Duncan Never Gets Soft
I mean, I think they would still break up it just won’t be over the number 9 thing but rather more the stress with being on different teams
@@megaflynn6482 Yeah but Trent doesn’t throw challenges which was causing the stress to Gwen so ur have right
@@LuKAz_Gamez64-69 well that plus Trent being jealous that Duncan might take Gwen away from him
Yeah but what if Courtney wasn't so controlling to Duncan plus Trent not being a lunatic
Courtney is pretty rude and controlling that is how she is
For Pahkitew Island, what if Wawanakwa didn't sink in TDAS. If would effect a lot more than having Scarlett not be evil.
Major Changes: Scarlett can't take over the island, which would effect her gameplay and the finale would be different.
What would the challenges be?
I'd still love to see Scarlett as a genius villain because it's fun (love rooting for the villains haha) but keep her in for longer and the reveal of her actually being "evil" should happen if she'd get to the final 3
I think there’s a somewhat important detail that you didn’t mention. In the Aftermath comeback challenge, the final question that Blaineley blurted out was the name of Duncan’s punk band from when he was found in London. Without him being found in London, this detail is unknown because no one knew where he was (hence the Duncan spitting aftermath segments). However, it is virtually impossible to predict what the new question would have been, so you probably made the right call
That Owen and Tyler tie breaker lmao, Alejandro just murdered Owen
I'd assume they both would have parachutes on
@@Mr_Sega He didn't in the original 😭
@@scrublordgamer9636no shit Sherlock
Owen would of built Noah’s face and Owen, Tyler & Alejandro would of had to sing “we built Noah’s face”
Said this last time, but what if Scott was put on the Mutant Maggots instead of the Toxic Rats?
He'd have the same strategy, but since he's on a different team he'd have different targets.
Also great video, I adore the alternate-history genre
Yes! This would be awesome
He get put on the Mutant Maggots at the start?
It would pretty much go like: First episode goes the same and Staci is voted off. Second episode he sabotages the challenge and gets Cameron voted off for being weak and scrawny. Third episode, he let's B melt the castle and convinces the Maggots to vote Mike off for playing character too much.. The rest tho idk, I'll let the creator of this video figure that out
I honestly think that Alejandro wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance against Tyler, not only Tyler has more support but his determination is much greater than Alejandros and he would lose by quite a big margin.
And if feral Ezekiel tried to steal 1M $, Tyler would simply kick him in the volcano and save his well deserved money
Here’s an idea I had. In the first episode Revenge of the Island, Mike and Zoey arrived at the same time, and Mike was going to be put on the Toxic Rats, but then Dawn arrived and she was put on the rats instead. So what if Dawn arrived just a bit later and Mike was put on the Toxic Rats while Dawn was put on the Mutant Maggots?
Also, something you could've done is have no one catch Zeke in the London episode and have him return instead of Duncan. Chris did say that he was gonna let Ezekiel back into the game if he wadsn't caught.
I Read the thumbnail and I was like “HE WAS GONE LIKE MOST PEOPLES FATHERS????”
The Tyler ending is my ending 😍 head cannon Alejandro just starts shitting on Tyler the moment they vote out Gwen and then Tyler has an epic character arc, the fan fic energy is steaming
I just got two ideas for you that I don't see done often.
Also love this video, I adored the Owen and Tyler Tie-Breaker.
XD
So, first idea. Is what if Izzy never switched with Katie? Given how in the first episode, this could make or break the Gophers losing or winning. Could be an interesting change!
And the second idea, is if what if Sierra and Izzy never switched places in World Tour. Since it would shake up the dynamics in Team Chris and even change Sierra's role throughout the season. (I can see her playing Izzy's role in Noah and Owen's friendgroup) and how Izzy would interact with the girls in Team Amazon.
Or, Sadie is on the gophers and Lindsay is on the bass
@@Letters_yoYT Reason I say Katie is on the Gophers is because that's how the teams were originally set.
I love listening to your videos as a podcast.
Personally with the merge rejoiner I think Sierra would end up rejoining because Geoff just didn’t want Blainley getting paid, and if Sierra blurted out the answer Geoff would probably use that to end the show faster
Yeah that would work too
The fact that owen got the bear is just perfect
This one was pretty intense!
The idea about African tie is great, really loved it and it fits so well here.
Suggesting again, what if Courtney was in Action from the beginning, getting in Trent’s team and making alliance with him (because well, they both jealous to Duncan and Gwen’s friendship, so there’s a motive)
Okay but add Tyler, Cody, and Ezekiel and we've got something cooking
I am really curious about What if Ezekiel was able to survive as the ripper and came back halfway through the season in the half human form
This has to be my favorite "what if" video so far! Good Job!
Day 3 of asking for if DJ never got the animal curse
Personally I think the tiebreaker between Owen and Tyler should have been a Western-style duel, where they stand in place, and they shoot eachother using the Slingshots & Paralysis Balls. The aim of the tiebreaker being 'whoever goes down first loses', with no outside help, which does put Tyler at a severe disadvantage because Owen is a massive guy, thus requiring more hits to take him down. Tyler being Tyler can't aim for sh@t but would maybe hit Owen once, funnily enough it would either be directly in the face or the kiwi's. However as we've seen in TDI's Paintball Deer Hunting challenge, Owen is not the best shot either BUT I do think Owen would ultimately win because he would probably only need to hit Tyler twice for him to lose, and I think Owen could manage that even with the fact that his face is potentially paralyzed.
Not to mention; I think without Heather, Alejandro needs someone to direct all his energy toward defeating, and It was Owen & Noah that Alejandro ultimately despised the most.
And honestly having the finale being the Ultimate Good Guy Owen Vs the Ultimate Bad Guy Alejandro would be an as incredible finale as Evil Vs Wicked in Heather Vs Alejandro.
I can imagine this timeline having Episode 25 be the finale and 26 be the World Tour special.
Could you do what if Courtney was dropped over Gwen in picnic over hanging dork cause Cody caused the tie and we all know Cody, had he not been disoriented, would have voted Courtney.
I love your videos. You do perfect WHAT IF videos ❤
I love these what if videos, keep it up!
This might be a bit ambitious, but what if you did a poll and asked which contestants people would most want to see come back, and then selected the top 16 or so and went through a hypothetical season with that cast? Or alternatively, what if you chose the BOTTOM 16 from that poll? It'd probably just be mostly Pahkitew Island characters lol
It's incredible that every thing that changes in TDWT, Heather ends up being eliminated
Every time I watch ur videos I’m rooting for Duncan and yet I still watched this video just bc ur vid are to good
Time traveler: Moves a rock
The universe:
TDWT if a player was eliminated every time they didn’t sing lmao
Owen should have got three medals as he knocked Cody out of the ring and then pins Courtney and Seirra
I'd like to see what would happen if Harold never sacrificed himself in World Tour.
For that vote, DJ and Tingting (Lindsay doesn't vote), vote for DJ, while Harold and Bridgette vote for Harold. Leshawna's vote is not explicitly shown, but it's either DJ or Harold.
It's between Harold and DJ, and ultimately it comes down to who Leshawna voted for. When Chris is about to say that Harold is safe, Harold cuts in and eliminates himself, for honour. I'd like to see what's different if Harold stayed in, and DJ was eliminated.
I have two episodes ideas:
1.what if Duncan and Gwen didnt kiss in TDWT
2.what if elimination and non elimination rounds swaped in TDA (that now elimination were non elimination and non elimination elemination)
This was a really good episode!!! I think an episode idea would be how would allstars Ben affected if this was the end timeline
Suggestion: World Tour if Harold never quit in Japan
How I think it’d go:
Episode 13: Non Elimination
Episode 14:
Gwen and Noah volunteer, and Gwen beats Noah. Wrestling goes as normal and Alejandro loses Hirdles to Heather like canon. I actually don’t think Cody would win, since he was scared for Gwen. Tyler didn’t accomplish either though, so I think it would end in a draw. I think Chris would do something similar to episode 7 in TDPI. In 15, I agree with team Chris winning and Heather gets out here. However, the amazons would then win and Noah gets out here. Episode 17 is non elimination.
Merge:
Alejandro
Courtney
Cody
Sierra
Owen
Blainely
Tyler
Gwen
Alejandro and Courtney win immunity. Cody asks everyone to vote Sierra, so him, Gwen and Courtney do so. However, Alejandro tells Sierra and Tyler to vote Gwen to break up the allies. He also convinces Blainely, but not Owen. I think he throws his vote away on to Courtney, but Gwen is gone. I think Sierra, Owen and Blainely get top 3, and Owen wins. Courtney and Cody vote Sierra, but everyone else chooses Courtney. I still think Chris makes a last minute double though, and they both go home. Blainely doesn’t get exposed. Her alliance with Chef continues along with Owen, but Alejandro wins and convinces Tyler and Cody to vote Owen for being a threat. Owen goes home. In Drumheller, Blainely gets out and in episode 25, Alejandro would easily win. Without Sierra, Cody gets nowhere and I think Tyler would… luck through and Cody goes home. Finale: Alejandro vs Tyler.
Alejandro vs Tyler feels like what would happen if Heather and Lindsay actually made it to the final 2 in Island.
Duncan was the only reason I watched TDWT
6:50 It's strange how Alejandro and Tyler would work together when Alejandro flirted with Tyler's girl at the start of the season. Like wouldn't Noah tell Tyler that he flirted with Lindsay and get him on his side.
Honestly this would have been the move for Noah. Honestly think both Tyler and Lindsay forgot that Al flirted with Lindsay
I love how this version made aletyler real
'What if Alejandro never stole Heather's immunity idol?'
What if Dj got to continue in world tour? Like what if since Izzy got removed he was allowed to take her place on team Chris is really really really really hot
I feel like Owen and Noah and Tyler would actually all vote Alejandro in Australia
I joked that tyler would win at the beginning of this video.
If duncan never came back, I think courtney wouldn’t sing “ *BOYFRIEND KISSER-* “
Good video dude
Can we get a PI vid? I think your take on Sammy being a confused bear would be awesomr
I would LOVE a Tyler finale
What if every total drama Island elimination was a proper fair voting? Izzy doesn't just leave from the RCMP hunting her, no Harold rigging, Lindsay and Dj don't get out from losing a challenge, Leshawna isn't voted off by accident and instead they all actually vote off who they want to vote off
Jesus how many eliminations would change here haha
Justin in episode 5, Tyler in 7 (Courtney threw the challenge), Izzy’s take in 8, Cody’s full injury in 9, Harold rigging the vote in 12, Chris properly disqualifying the Gophers because Heather never crossed the line in 13, Heather’s BS immunity in 16/17, the insane rules in 18, DJ’s scream in 19, the fact that the winner didn’t even get immunity in 20, and of course, Leshawna’s elimination in 22. Episode 23 was a waste of time
In terms of purely unfair in terms of the show’s rules, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 22 have unfair challenge results/eliminations
Nice, can you do what if Staci found the immunuty idol next? I think it would have been funny to see Staci not get voted first
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I do like the idea of the what if tie breaker, but I think Owen would have been able to yeet Tyler out of the plane before Tyler could lure him anywhere. Realistically, he's closer with Gwen than Tyler, and Gwen would be on the sidelines yelling about literally just pushing him out. I feel like it's a little mean for him, but then I remembered him in the dodgeball challenge, and I don't think it's a stretch.
A suggestion what if Duncan never quit in the first ep of WT
These are really good videos, they are actually a near accurate representation on what would happen
Some random ideas :
What if Gwen and Trent never broke up in Action
What if Courtney never came back in Action
What if Ezekiel won the challenge and came back in I See London
What if Harold didnt quit in WT
What if DJ didnt quit in Action
What if Scott was in the other team in TDROTI
Idea: What if Lindsay won the tiebreaker in “Can’t Help But Falling In Louvre”?
I like this quite a bit
why does duncan always make it to merge 🗿🗿 in every season he is in
Gwen in Hero teams
Thank you
I feel like if Duncan didn't come back, they could have/would have done the thing that could've happened in the London Episode, where Ezekial is offered to come back if he can capture all the contestants. Of course, instead, he actually does. (Don't know if you already made a video on this, but I would love to see one)
one small nitpick, owen in action said in the aftermath while hooked up to a lie detector that he didn’t really mind that courtney voted him off unfairly, but overall i think the courtney elimination in this timeline is still pretty fair
I think Owen would’ve voted for Tyler and not Courtney because of his and Gwen’s friendship
Total Drama All Stars if Scott wasn’t scared to jump in episode 1
Love how these videos are basically "what if Heather got eliminated early?"
Technically sierra was already voted off by Chris by blowing up his plane by accident
You should do what if Duncan never quit in the start of TDWT.
Now lets do the opposite What if Duncan never quit? In total drama world tour
Alejandro and Tyler have a very special bond
Yes u should do total drama what if Justin was a villain in total drama island please
I got one! Island: what if Eva never had her music thing get stolen by Heather?
total drama if courtney/owen didnt come back in total drama action
hey i just got another world tour idea that you could do, can you make what if world tour had 2 teams instead of 3 with the plot still being the same with duncan coming back too.
Hey what about this: Total Drama Island but what if Eva and Izzy never came back
I wish Duncan never came back.
Idea:what iff tyler was eliminated in I see london
You forgot that the question was ducans rock band and since he wasnt found the question would probably be td travia so sierra would get back in
On ep. 19, I think Owen should be a saboteur and if he fails to win the challenge, he will be auto eliminated. If he wins, there will be voting
Well, it'd kind of change all stars, too.
This was a great one. Another i wanna see is how to get heather to win with out the love triangle or duncan returning
EZEKIEL DIDN'T PLACE DEAD LAST IN THIS TIMELINE LET'S FUCKING GO
had a loose idea
TDI if the random leshawna situation didn't happen or the vote there was more honest (they voted off who they wanted to lose)
tho it was somewhat late in the show, so it probably wouldn't change show drastically
Tbh, the Greece non-elimination isn’t even an issue. You can just argue that maybe Chris would call London a non-elimination to save Heather, only to have Heather end up eliminated in Greece anyway.
I think Owen would of voted Alejandro because I think Gwen would’ve offered Owen a box of donuts
Suggestions: Swapped seasons, like for example, how would tdi and pi be like if Izzy and Scarlett swapped, Scarlett in tdi and Izzy in PI
New series idea: What would it take for (Total Drama Character) to win in (Total Drama Season)?
You don't have to do this. It's merely a suggestion.
Do: What if Ezekiel was a contestant in all stars
What if Lightning, at least, makes it to the merge in All-Stars
What if heather was on the bass you can put Harold on the gophers
maybe you could do tdas what if Duncan never blew up Chris' cottage
Another could idea would be “if coutney never joined action
You should do this but what if Duncan got eliminated in Greece
This would definitely be smaller but what if the whole leshawna situation in island didn’t happen
You should make a what if in the after math comeback challenge Katie came back
Please do one where Trent isn’t Derailed
Tyler or Lindsay have been part of almost every finale, you really like them huh? Great videos tho