The Case for Wide Risers | Fixed Gear Bike Handlebars
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In 2015, wide riser bars on fixed gear bikes started becoming more popular. While many seasoned fixed gear riders said it was a fad and would be out by the following year, here we are almost 5 years later and some riders choose wide risers as their #1 handlebar, and some companies started putting them as the stock handlebars on their fixed gears. We'll take a look at the pros and cons of wide risers for fixed gear riding to see if they may be right for you.
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I'm a wide riser convert, and I'm not afraid to admit it. What are your thoughts on wide risers?
I personally use 74cm wide flatbars (well technically they have like a 1cm rise or something) and the only thing I hate is that they make it exponentially harder to pass slow people on narrow bike paths/streets
55-60cm is a decent size for urban use, lots of low speed and off-road control but doesn't widen your profile too much and there is a decent variety of rise and sweep options including a few ergonomic ones with a loop or a shaped crossbar.
my nitto 650mm wide bar is my daily. Also live in DTLA. The width doesn't bother me but I actually think it effectively mitigates the risk of me doing risky/stupid split lane maneuvers and such thus I ride more caution/less speed lol
Got some mtb bars. I've been loving them since day 1. It is sketchy to ride between cars, but I got better at it too. It also helps with front racks
Love wide risers, I ride drops day to day but I just wanna say its more aerodynamic to grab close to the stem and bend elbows vs being in the drops - GCN's aero video kinda proves that its alot alot more aero than being in drops
I'm an older guy and I like wider risers on all my bicycles. Mostly because sometimes when we are older with back issues and shoulder issues...those kind of bars take much pressure off those points and allow one to ride much farther in comfort.
You should do a video on the super narrow bars fad
agree...
Those are just weird.
I would love to see a new episode of "carpal tunnel" points.
On my first fixed gear I had 750mm wide risers, later on I cut them to 650mm. Lane splitting became much easier and I didn't have the feeling I offered up a lot of control.
Shout out to Wabi also. Best bang for your buck period. I own 2, and they are my go to bikes for urban (and suburban riding, and just about every other on pavement riding). No. I don't work for Wabi. Just a huge appreciator of fine fixed gear cycles.
3:05 that looked like an impossibly close call
it was, I feel like we all had one of these I even had one recently almost hitting a rider and felt so bad for it
Max reasonably dangerous😎
I hope Guinness was watching to check if this was the most amount of times someone has said "wide risers" in 10:51.
I have wide risers on my mountain bike, and they're pretty good most of the time. But as far as riding fixed,or road in traffic, drops are the only way for me to go. Good luck y'all.
Just built up my new fixed gear used risers wide and looks great.
I ride SRAM Hussefelt risers and they're great! After I tried to squeeze thru a pair of cars several days ago I got a little stuck and almost knocked some guys mirror off by accident. With that said I'm still getting used to riding with them and I noticed that it's not as difficult to navigate thru traffic as I thought.
Left my drop bars today. Loving the wide risers
Great vid Zach very interesting
I have a commuter with wide risers and a BMX stem and parts, I have to say, it's way more fun than my serious af track bike with 120 mm stem and drop bars.
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Ordered wrong handle bars and decided to put them on just to see. Took a ride and Loved the risers!!!! Only thing is now having to change my brake to fit.
Try some bullhorns!
Just finished a custom build with a Justice track frame & originally had bullhorns. I had to change to wide raised handlebars. My back couldn't take the aggressive stance of bullhorns on a daily.
so comfy. I can't push as hard but the control and comfort is great
Recently got a mustache riser bar for my road bike and It really fits my riding style more than the drops I had. I could zip around like fucking lightning with the drops but I didn’t like being so far bent over.
i had a mountain bike and i hated the wide handlebar. I bought a fixie with a racerbar and i love it.
I'm a fan of wide risers myself. They're way more comfortable than the straight bars I had previously.
710 with big back sweep (15 to 20) comfy and still good for most lane splitting in the usa. The back sweep helps big time with wrist issues.
For anyone wanting to try wide risers for cheap, you can get chinese "Wake" branded risers in a variety of widths, colors and clamp diameters for around $13 on eBay. They aren't the lightest, but they get the job done.
thanks for the video!
As a long time mountain biker I'm used to wide risers anyway. In the 90's people were cutting their Mtb bars down to less than 500mm, super twitchy off road! On a fixie 600mm or so suits me fine, but for longer rides I prefer drops or bullhorn bars.
I got in the habit of cutting my risers really short, because that's what everyone else was doing in my city 10 years ago when I first got into fixed gear. Skinny bars. Skinny tires. Clowny-ass color schemes. After chopping some beautiful Nitto bars really short a couple years ago, I couldn't help but feel like I did something wrong. While it was nice to be very upright for seeing over traffic, it got uncomfortable quickly in my wrists. I have come to appreciate the leverage and additional hand positions other bars offer. I think my narrow bar days are behind me.
Cool video. A couple questions: What city are you riding in? That bike path looks fun. Another question: I have wide risers on my fixed gear, but it feels like the handlebars are too low and it hurts my palms. I got the bike sized for me, but I wish I could get the up a bit. Thanks!
Does anyone have experience riding risers with horned ergo grips? Curious, I imagine it would add an extra hand position to alleviate some strain.
Though I am having difficulty finding ergo-grips that aren't unsightly.
I've never had any other type of handlebars. My kid bike had risers, the mointainbikes I had as an older kid/teenager had risers, the crappy used bikes I rode when I was a young adult did and my first fixed gear came with, well, risers. I tried riding someone's road bike once and the drop bars were really intimidating to me, especially as the brakes where only reachable in the try hard position (very old road bike) and as it had a freewheel, brakes were needed.
I am really unsure if I should try anything else, though.
Im fan of wide bars before(70cm-ish) but then started cutting it little by little to slowly find the perfect length not just for comfort but also good for my daily commutes. I ended up with 48cm bars that is perfect for my liking. Wide bois are not good for daily commutes here in Philippines atleast for me.
I've rocked three of the most enjoyable metric centuries on my 590mm risers
I like the wide bars, but prefer a flat bar over a riser bar. I learned to ride on a road bike with a low position and that lower position is more comfortable for me personally.
If wide bars are great for skid control, I guess, it's wise to cut steering tube to have less irregularities under chest....?
I have been riding a trek 820 mountain bike I bought new this year. I use to ride a diamond sorrento from 1992. I love how the wider bars on my trek 820 feel however they are just too slow. I have a hard time believing the Bike is as inefficient as it is. I have to blame the addition of a suspension and those wider bars
Also what do you think of alternative handlebars like the surly moloko or jones h loop bar
I have a 80mm stem for a 720mm riser. Its pretty dope but i think i have to cut the riser by 20mm eatch side. What do you think?
I use bullhorns all the time to climb better, but sometimes I flip my risers left to right and point them down just to have more lower position and it feels great!...does any body do that!? :)
You could always add a side grip for that added hand position for comfort, it’s just up to you to decide if that makes the bike look uglier or not.
Are Fundiable Frames any Good? Especially Angels and Demons
can someone help me out with getting my hands on Nitto B221AA-HT (risers)?
Have tried almost everything... No one seems to have them in stock or be able to contact nitto directly
I have a riser bar on my mtb and to me it feels comfortable
hi, does the riser bar fits perfectly on a mini velo?
hey Zac can you please answer my question in your next fixed gear q/a. i have been riding fixed for almost 3 years now and have had the same bike since the start a second hand felt track bike i feel is getting tad small do you think spending around 1000 on a bigger bike that'll last me years to come and put my sugino 75 cranks . on my new-one would be a worthy investment?
I find any flat (riser or not) on a track or SS to wear on the front of my shoulders.as I use the bars for torque.
I used to run 810mm widebars and rode thru traffic in my downtown area.
Drops for easy spinning with gears. Riser for smashing and powering on a singlespeed.
I mostly ride mountain bikes so wide risers are the best. Currently converting my cyclocross bike to have wide risers
Thought on super narrow risers??? Likr cutting them down almost to the curve...
Do it! I ran 420mm bars, and would often grab closer to the middle while riding. You can always get a cheap bar to try it.
For the lenght you just go for your natural push-up stand and measure the distance between your hand
what brand of handlebar at 5:57
I think wide riser is too wide for me because i use a 38cm nitto trackbar and its comfortable for me
420mm risers all day, don't @ me
hi guys, i am about to convert to wide risers and my choice is Easton EA50 lo rise with 630 mm width. any suggestion for the stem length? my frame size is 52 and i'm 5.7 ft tall. thankss!
Wide risers don't let me fit between cars, or anywhere else for that matter.
Fun fact: if you ride with your hands on risers near the stem is MORE AERODYNAMIC than on the drops
Still recovering my elbows. Ouch. Months.
Yo, Zach. You should make a video on how you travel with your bike. Like how you are able to fly to different places and also take your bike. Because i literally have NO IDEA how tf to do it without destroying my bank account
Its fun and simple. Makes me want to use my 740mm wides on my low pro-bike
I'm actuallying getting a 740mm bars, if I may ask how does if feel ?
@@jesse3220 More control, easier climbs.
@@FJ-xz7yy yeah alright thanks im excited to put them on my aventon cordoba soon
I had the same opinion until i tried them out. Since then i only ride wide riders instead of drop bars on all of my bikes
Just sad that the wide bars look so terrible. I've been trimming riser bars down for about 3 years. Thank you, though, as I have been curious.
l tried my buddies mtb bars on his road bike and liked it soooo l put skinny tires on my MTB :) But on my old steel bike l got wide 44-46 cm drop cx bars but still thinking putting on my extra set of 640mm MTB onto my miyata .... or just getting another bike ,HMMMMM
Chromag fubar osx bars ftw
best option ever
W drop bars on his bike the whole time in the background
I couldn't imagine riding a 800mm handlebar on a fixie. I find that even 785mm is plenty wide on my downhill mountain bike.
Riser drops 😉
Can someone explain to me the benefits of bull horn bars and bar end grips?
Aero position
@@yeetyeet1308 thank you, if you know any youtuber that goes into detail over this send me link.
Mine are 700 wide and 40 up.
I road with normally wide risers on my fixie for a few months, didn't like it at all, oversteering all over the place. Shoulder width riser bars require a riding style that's more suited to riding a fixie. You steer a fixie with your whole body.
lench of the enve riser on 3:32? looks comfy as fuck.. just bought one at 780mm.. too wide.. can anyone tell or guess?
What you mean by "start becoming stock on FG bikes"? I don't see much complete FG bikes, now people have discovered they can ride off tarmac on bikes with flared drops, carrying stuff in wiggly bag on seat post.
Belle vecchiette fantastiche 👍😀
Wide risers make me feel like I'm back on the Walmart hybrid bikes from middle school.
I’ve ordered my bike from FLX Babymaker!!!! I didn’t want Drop handles bars, I wanted at a normal bike??? I don’t like flat bars,!!!!!. Love my Dropbox ??????
I rode with wide rise bars for a week in a half working my mess job and I'm just going to say no no no no I took them off and told my friend hay can I get my bars back with are bull horns persute bar's I had so much trouble with the wide bars I could not go between cars I could not go up hills I could not do what you said they are good for
i use 700mm wid risers since day 1
I tried multipule bars including black label v2 bars .State blacklabel bars are the crapiest you can buy. Mostly because of the back and up sweep angle. Also cheap bars are very soft and fragile. Try to find something made of 6000 aluminium series (better 7000 series but it will cost extra) with 8+ backsweep angle and 2+ upsweep
P.S. Zach not allways know what he talking about
Dope
Z.G. got no love for Flat Bars!
Flat n bars for me
i like wide risers but i think they just dont look good on a bike with sloped frame geometry in general.
Is it stupid to buy a frame undrilled and learn to ride brakeless as a first time rider? (the frame is beautiful)
IMO riding brakeless on public roads is illegal, selfish, vane and lacks consideration to common humanity. But that's just my opinion. Its a free country, just be responsible for your own actions.
Nope. Go for it. I started riding brakeless a decade ago and It’s fine.
Convert. Mostly for ergo
ps l found 700mm bars too much discomfort to for too long
Flat wide bars ftw
5:12 What's so special about drops? A lower and narrower flat bar can be just as aerodynamic. If your forearms aren't flat in the drops then you're better off getting aero in the tops or hoods of a dropbar.
Uncut Thompsons!!!
I buy an 800 mm handlebar and a 35 mm stem....well let´s see
Deffinetly dangerous!! 🤣 but still pretty dope! Like that
I use 58cm flat handlebars with a 130 stem don't @ me
"Wide riser convert" bike has drop bars.
riding 710mm for more control while doing tricks
drops for long rides
I haven't see the video yet but I'm against wide risers! Now where's my wireless telephone, I need to phone up sears and ask that fella about my lawnmower repair.
Whoever did that move at 3:04 is pretty ignorant for doing it so slow like wow they made that way closer than it had to be
It think it's probably because he was looking back at his left lane to watch for a car
I'm so lost with this "fixed gear" riding or riders?? What the heck does it really mean? These the people that are mail or package delivery riders?
Every style of everything ever was once a ‘fad’ and wide risers are just the same. Remember 10 inch super skinny bars? Wooden handlebars? 23c tires? Trispokes? Aerospokes? They all had their defenders. They all had their time in the sun. The important thing is what works for YOU the rider.
Jojo_is_a_GO 23c tires were a fad?
I write Checks at the grocery store. So? Sure were. Once upon a time all tires were fat rubber. Over time they went smaller and smaller. Cycling elites went to the skinniest tire possible because they allegedly reduced drag by cutting through the air and cut rolling resistance on the ground. We later found out that slightly larger tires had a low rolling resistance as well and 23c was no longer required in all applications.
Nope, not for me.
Tried 'em, didn't like the feel.
AND THEY'RE FFFUGLY!
(just like skinwalls)
Wait..
_Ride Wisers?_
Ugh...🙄🙄🙄 Why do people prefer using things that make the ride worse? You can't get aero on fast turns. You can't get aero to avoid winds knocking you over. It makes your hands and wrists more tired since you can't change positions. Seriously, guys less is not more.
Your bars don't look wider than your shoulders though.
2:06 Then time trialists and triathletes aren't able to breathe as well? Yeah this makes no sense.
That's physiology, that actually make sense : Triathletes prioritise aero positioning, that doesn't mean they can't breathe but opening the chest and getting aero is quite impossible. I mean their aero gain is superior that the benefit of getting a(little bit) better chest position cause they rides for hours.
@@JAUNEWICK Has this ever been tested? I don't feel any loss in ability to breathe unless my nose or mouth is covered or there's pressure on my neck or torso. Getting aero adds no pressure to the chest.
I think I’ve read a study concerning this, it’s been a while, so don’t take it as a fact...
The study wanted to find out, if being more in an aerodynamic position has the negative effect with making the lungs work harder. -tldr at the end-
*for an untrained body*, if you lower your upper body to a more aerodynamic position (in the drop position and your head closer to the bar) and arms closer together, then yes, your lungs have to work harder, but are more aerodynamic, which results in less work overall.
BUT, only having your arms together (let’s say in the hoods positions), then it has little to no effect.
You could argue, that your lungs have to work more, the more upright your sitting and the wider the bars, because your body is less aerodynamic (difference could be up to 100W, for 30kmh, if I remember correctly).
Now to the *trained body*...
The position is the same, with the difference that the trained athlete can stretch his upper body, whereas the untrained body would fold the stomach, the athlete folds at the hips. In this case, the stomach still has similar room to expand and lungs can breath the same amount of air.
A wider bar gives you more control for more technical rides, but makes you work harder (muscles and lungs) where the extra technicality isn’t needed, because of your body act more of a wall.
-tldr version-
Shorter bars don’t hindrance your breathing (in an upright position), just may feel unusual.
Wider bars are good for technical stuff, but make you work harder if you want to go fast.
I guess, it’s up to yourself which you prefer.
Wide bars give you more control if you have heavy stuff at the front of the bike, but then again, you could put it in the back of the bike. And ofc, wider bars can be perceived as more comfortable.
If you go on more technical descents, like mtb trails, then wider bars are recommended,
If you want to go fast, shorter bars are better.
If you are concerned with breathing... idk... do some yoga and stretch out your body
@@brauljo Doesn't need to be tested: there are two type of breathing basically: normally (you don't have to think about breathing) and manually (when you are doing an effort, and you need more air volume). When you cycle, or do any other sport, you breath manually. What happens is: your ribs move up and down to allow your chest to opena and you get more air. All of you ribs are attached to your sternum, which is a reversed triangle that id also attached to your collar bones. When your ribs go up,, you sternum also does and it pushed tou collar bones "outside" Or "behind depending on what is your position. These collar bones movements result in a shoulder and also arm mouvement (quite unnoticeable but it exists). Thats why we say that wider bars tend to open your chest, they allow for more lung expansion and air flow.
Hope I have bean clear. Sorry for mediocre english Im french. Have a nice day. 🤓 Stay safe out there
@@mathiasdieste Hmm I don't think I think about breathing when performing an effort.