Physics 53 Polarization (3 of 5) Three Polarizers

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    In this video I will show you how to calculate the final intensity of the ray after it passes through 3 polarizers.
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  • @w1ndro1d
    @w1ndro1d Před 6 lety +44

    For anyone wondering, Malus' law works only for polarized light.

  • @Abdullah-mg5zl
    @Abdullah-mg5zl Před 9 lety +7

    This was indeed pretty interesting! My intuition definitely led me to believe there would be 0 light.

  • @zedlepplin9450
    @zedlepplin9450 Před 7 lety +3

    Thank you sir, keep the videos coming, it helps students like me. May God bless you!!!

  • @dalenassar9152
    @dalenassar9152 Před 7 lety +1

    I know all this must hold up for a the photon (quantum) explanation?

  • @vivianhir3930
    @vivianhir3930 Před 6 lety

    Thank you! Good explanation.

  • @RealationGames
    @RealationGames Před 10 lety +5

    Counter-intuitive resoult to me. I especially like this stuff in science. Thanks for the video!

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 10 lety +3

      Yes, The first time I saw this, I had a hard time believing this myself. When I finally had a chance to study more advanced optics it became clear how it worked. That is the exciting part of science, discovering for yourself how everything in nature works.

    • @Peter_1986
      @Peter_1986 Před 9 lety +2

      Michel van Biezen I can kind of guess why the three polarizers in this video work like this - it feels to me like since they are set up so that there is a 45° angle difference, they will never be able to completely block out any of the x-and y-components, but only parts of them.
      In other words, if you have two polarizers, and they are perpendicular to each other, then the first one will completely block one component and the second one will completely block the second component, but you cannot completely block any of them if the polarizers differ by 45°.
      Kinda hard to explain, but I think it works a bit like this on some level.

    • @lolerie
      @lolerie Před 4 lety +1

      @@Peter_1986 it is because polorasiers actualy rotate the light.

  • @DikshantGamingZone
    @DikshantGamingZone Před 6 lety +2

    Amazing Thanks Sir!!!!

  • @rodrigoalvarado8380
    @rodrigoalvarado8380 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you for the video. It helped me a lot :)
    The math checks and the experiment confirms it... but it's so counterintuitive it still bothers me a bit :P

  • @CheeseTomatoe
    @CheeseTomatoe Před 8 lety +4

    How come there is a factor of 1/2 for intensity I_1 but not for I_2?
    Oh and thanks for these videos! These helped me with engineering dynamics last semester and now this is helping with E&M :)

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 8 lety +9

      +CheeseTomatoe When unpolarized light passes through the first polarizer, the intensity drops by 1/2, because one of the directions is completely blocked. When passing through the second polarizer, the amount of Intensity reduction depends on the angle between the two polarizers. (note that the light going through the second polarizer is already polarized).

  • @opium12345opium
    @opium12345opium Před 5 lety +1

    Hi, I have a problem with my LCD display. The display was monochrome. After removing the polarizing film and rotating it by 90 degrees, the colors have changed. The black has changed to white and white to black. After removing the next filter (transparent, which was under the polarizing filter) and re-applying the polarizing filter, the colors change - yellow, purple, green ..... and I can not use black. I am asking for a hint of what's stuck under the polarizing filter, what should I look for to "fix" my display. On my channel there are videos that show the problem :( Thank you in advance for a thank you.

  • @eliaxus4532
    @eliaxus4532 Před 7 lety +2

    What if the third polarizer is moved in place of second. The intensity of light is 0, but in application if you put the third polarizer at an angle of 45 degrees it becomes bright again. 0*cos^2(45). (i2 = 0.)

  • @nazrulislam-bk9cc
    @nazrulislam-bk9cc Před 6 lety +1

    Nice presentation. Please reply, can we say 0-degree polarised image is a non-polarised image?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 6 lety +1

      It is not so much the angle, as a beam of unpolarized light will have components oscillating in all directions in an equal amount. Once such light goes through a polarizer, the all the components of the various portions of the beam perpendicular to the polarizer will be blocked.

  • @Jashin2k
    @Jashin2k Před 4 lety

    Hello, I am trying to replace a poliriser on a device, but the colours are inverted, any thoughts?

  • @JonnhyW
    @JonnhyW Před 7 lety +1

    Hello and thanks for the explanation, I got a question, If the light is already polarized (vertically for example)and it goes through a first polarizer with and angle, does the intensity would be half? or in that case we have use the angle formed between the vertical polarized light and the polarizer?.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 7 lety +1

      In that case you DON'T have to divide by half. Just use the formula to find the intensity (as if it is the second polarizer).

    • @JonnhyW
      @JonnhyW Před 7 lety

      I got it now! Thx a lot sir!!

  • @islamnasherul2225
    @islamnasherul2225 Před 4 lety

    How many molecules are there in 1m^3 gas in the standard state? (Pressure is 1.013•10^5 Pa, Temperature is 273 K)

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety

      At STP conditions 1 mol occupies 22.4 liters. (There are a thousand liters in a cubic meter)

  • @dipender11
    @dipender11 Před 7 lety +1

    what if the first polarizer is tilted through an angle theta then what will be the intensity of light is it half of the given intensity or not?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 7 lety

      Assuming that the light is not polarized when it reached the first polarizer, the intensity will drop to 1/2 of the original intensity when passing through the first one, regardless of the angle of orientation.

    • @dipender11
      @dipender11 Před 7 lety

      Michel van Biezen really you mean angle does not matter for first polarizer

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 7 lety

      No, only the angle between the first and the second polarizer.

  • @islamnasherul2225
    @islamnasherul2225 Před 4 lety

    Unpolarized light falls on two polarizing filters so oriented that no light is transmitted. If a third polarizing filter is placed between them, light still cannot be transmitted.is it right or wrong?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety

      Wrong, if the two polarizing filters are perpendicular to one another, not light will make it through the second polarizing filter. But if another filter is placed between the 2 at an angle between 0 and 90 degrees (not including 0 or 90) then light will pass through the third filter.

  • @DanJanucik
    @DanJanucik Před 5 měsíci +1

    So one could graph the resultant intensity based off of the 2nd polarizer as cos^2(pi/4)*cos^2(pi/2-x)*cos^2(x)?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 5 měsíci +1

      The best way to check is to calculate it and see if you get the same answer as in the video.

    • @DanJanucik
      @DanJanucik Před 5 měsíci

      @@MichelvanBiezen I did and I got the same result, just wanted to comment tbh

  • @AnteBrkic
    @AnteBrkic Před 4 lety

    So if we would rearange those filters: first, third, second, then no light would pass?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety

      If you set the second polarizer at an angle of 90 degrees relative to the first one, no light will pass through. (theoretically)

  • @kajatyr8737
    @kajatyr8737 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello, thanks so much for the explanation, I'm incredibly grateful.
    I have a question; this thing has really stumped me...
    I have two polarizers at an angle of 90°. I'm supposed to put a polarizer in between at such angle so that the final light intensity is 1/4 of the initial.
    I have been calculating this for a few hours now and I came to a conclusion, that there is no solution to this... (the highest intensity I could reach was at 45° angle and was equal to 1/8). Thank you so much for your answer and videos - like I said I'm really grateful.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety +1

      You are correct. Read the problem carefully. Are they referencing the initial intensity (prior to entering the first polarizer) or relative to the the intensity leaving the first polarizer.

    • @kajatyr8737
      @kajatyr8737 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MichelvanBiezen Hello, thanks for your answer and time.
      They are referencing the intensity prior to entering the first polarizer.
      Now if the beam approaching the first polarizer was already polarized, this should work out for the intensity to be 1/4 of the initial.
      It is not explicitly stated whether the initial beam is polarized or not, however, they do state that the electric intensities of the initial light relative to the axes are equal (Ex=Ey). This should further imply, that the light is unpolarized, since if it were polarized, the intensity relative to one of the axes should be 0.
      Are my assumptions correct?
      Thanks for your answer

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, that is a good way of looking at it.

    • @kajatyr8737
      @kajatyr8737 Před 4 lety

      @@MichelvanBiezen All right. Thank you sooo much! :)

  • @valeriereid2337
    @valeriereid2337 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Excellent explanation.

  • @Evultz
    @Evultz Před 8 lety +1

    The third polariser is at 90' to the first polariser though shouldn't the end result/intensity be 0?

  • @garnachowoodutd
    @garnachowoodutd Před 6 měsíci +1

    thanks a ton mate

  • @P0lymerQueen
    @P0lymerQueen Před 4 lety

    why?

  • @clientesinformacoes6364
    @clientesinformacoes6364 Před rokem +1

    I think the filters breakdown the field, try to use polarized filters that reflects 50% polarized light, like polarized mirror. I believe those filters breakdown and mergers the field The light must be there, the filters just changes to a spectrum we are not able to see it, using mirroring polarized erases the light we are not able to see it. The mirror and polarization must be in the same layer.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před rokem +1

      It is not really a believe. The science behind polarization is well understood.

    • @clientesinformacoes6364
      @clientesinformacoes6364 Před rokem +1

      ​@@MichelvanBiezen this must be proven by experiment only, I think 50% of the light are hidden by changing the spectrum to invisible light waves, the electromagnetic waves appears again when we add another filter. By having the mirror, it will completely removes 50% visible light away from the setup. We can not use the mirror and polarized filter in two layers they must be combined in one layer. I think light has more like waves behave when passes through the filter, just like double slit experiment. Thank you for your response!

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před rokem +2

      I would suggest that you watch some of the videos on electromagnetic radiation which would help in the understanding of the properties of E&M, during interference, diffraction, polarization, etc.

  • @herp_derpingson
    @herp_derpingson Před 10 lety

    Why/how does this happen?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 10 lety +2

      Herp. The intensity of light is a function of the electric field oscillations squared. The oscillations of unpolarized light are in all directions. When light is polarized, the oscillation magnitudes are decreased due to the cancellation of the components perpendicular to the polarizer. If a second polarizer is placed in the path of the light at an angle less than 90 degrees, then some of the electromagnetic oscillations will survive (the components parallel to the polarizer) so there will still be some intensity getting through the second one.

    • @herp_derpingson
      @herp_derpingson Před 10 lety

      I found an article
      www.theimagineershome.com/blog/?p=39

  • @quadrodopollock
    @quadrodopollock Před 2 lety +1

    Unrelated but:
    Nice tie, bro

  • @physdb
    @physdb Před 4 lety

    Why is I1=0.5 I0? Cos 0=1 so I1=I0

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 4 lety +1

      You don't apply that formula for light passing through the first polarizer. If unpolarized light passes through the first polarizer, all the component of each wave perpendicular to the polarizer will be blocked and all the components of each wave parallel to the polarizer will pass through so that 1/2 of all light will go through.

  • @tayneilson
    @tayneilson Před 7 lety +3

    I don't think this is correct. There should be a mention of the change in theta for each equation and he simply just plugs in the angle instead of delta theta...

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Před 7 lety +8

      It is correct.

    • @tayneilson
      @tayneilson Před 7 lety +2

      Michel van Biezen so why don't you plug in for theta two (45-45)? All I'm saying is I had 0 for theta one 30 for theta two and 60 for theta three and I had to plug in an account for the change of theta. So I plugged in 0 30 and 30. Whereas following you I would have plugged in 0 30 and 60.

    • @turtlellamacow
      @turtlellamacow Před 6 lety +4

      the angles that he wrote ARE the change in theta. relative to the first polarizer, the angles are 0, 45, and 90 degrees. he already took the difference - 45 degrees between each.

  • @ivanj6426
    @ivanj6426 Před 6 lety +1

    it's not working in real life