Jeffrey Epstein scandal at MIT | Kate Darling and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Kate Darling is a researcher at MIT Media Lab interested in human robot interaction and robot ethics.
Jesus! That is fucking innnnntense!!! 😮😮 Most intense Lex pod ever!! Damn!
Ito accepted some $525,000 from Epstein (possibly $1.2 million) as donations to the MIT Media lab. Ito did not have sex with underage girls. He took donation money for the school from a convicted sex offender. And for that he was fired/resigned/whatever, from MIT and a bunch of boards.
(edited to verify the post stays)
The question you have to ask yourself is this, if Ito didn't personally enrich himself from Epstein (it does not appear that he did), all the donated money went to the school for research, and he wasn't sexing underage girls, then, well, why does that make Ito a coward? He took dirty/filthy money, and tried to make some good use of it for research and development in academia. Poor judgment. Not would I would have done. But worthy of employment termination? Meh. Does that make him a coward? Not necessarily.
The elephant is the room:
When these "Sloors" were presented by Epstein to MIT staff their humanity didn't matter to the men and especially their humanity didn't matter to the women. Because they were sloors/ cattle. lower class cattle. The humanity of a sloor doesn't matter!
So when Epstein showed up with these "sloors" none of the most "intelligent" people in our nation gave a f*!
Perhaps these MIT women were put off because they couldn't match these desirability factor. Which blinded them to the CRIMINAL factor!! But the FACT is: all of these "feminist" at MIT didn't give a rats as* about protecting these children from these predator perverts because of their own egos!
OR maybe they were in shock. But that's a cop out too!! You guys are supposed to be the smartest people in our nation and you can't identify a PIMP!!??? FU!!! You knew EXACTLY what Epstein was but you didn't care because your an elitist f***
These girls were poor and you are rich....protecting them was simply not in your interest!
And the men are just scum.
We as women either protect each other or we don't. This went on because all of these smart people at MIT feel above a "SLOOOR" so her life didn't matter!!! Just f*ing admit it!!! And stop hiding behind your flakey pretense. You people suck and you are a huge part of the problem!!!
The police should have been called when Epstein paraded underage girls in front of scientist but no one did....not even the woman! Ya SUCK! ADMITT IT!!!!!
@@dominiquebender3788 Ok your post was off-putting by its sheer length, but you're right!!! It's weird how the Jessica Darling doesn't mention that at all.... Hmmmm
@@dominiquebender3788 K I don't know about not protecting the kids: they didn't know. Only monstrous psychopaths would not give two fucks about kids getting raped.... But Epstein definitely played the "meet my beautiful friends" card to get buddy buddy with the married male nerds at MIT, ON TOP of research money. Why wouldn't he?
my brother is an extremely charismatic psychopath. I don't think Lex has experienced this with someone close in his life, because once you experience it, you realize that you can't ever fully understand how powerful people's abilities are to hide their inner self. Once you have seen behind the curtain though, it changes you forever. You realize that these people are capable of incredible deception and it leaves you with a fundamental change in how you define the word trust.
All people are good there is no such thing as a sociopath, it's just a manifestation of oppression. Get real my dude
@@trystdodge6177 ?
@@trystdodge6177 that's an interesting idea, I saw it in a Korean series, a guy who was the son of a serial killer was judged by everyone for what his dad had done and was given a diagnosis of antisocial disorder as a teenager which he himself believed all his life to be true, but in the end it turned out he was just a regular guy who was living with a lot of guilt and also to survive abuse learned to bottle up his emotions and reactions.
@Morgan Ratzlaff Stop with that nonsense. Do you know how many people have died selflessly for others? What makes him so fuckin' special.
Precisely what Tim was trying raise to him but he is too naive, or stubborn rather, to accept that some people have serious issues. Been through it my whole life with my brother too, but he's the funny one, takes life easy, you're the crazy one even though he's literally the effing psychopath.
As a former whistleblower in a South African state-owned company, the statement "Sometimes cowards are worse than assholes" rings true.
Fellow South African here. Thank you for your bravery and also your service to our country my bru. People like you give the rest of us the hope to stay and fight the good fight.
@@pickitypopsnickitylovejone6558 Nah, boet. The place I blew the whistle in is the premier scientific research organisation in the country, an organisation of hundreds of engineers and scientists and pretty much the only institution the Auditor-General was awarding clean audits to.
Just like the MIT example here, it showed me that even people who purport to be pursuing the truth and knowledge can sell out. And the way they covered up my case showed me that it went all the way to the CEO. If an organisation like that is filthy, then there is no place left in government structures where corrupt tentacles have not reached.
It cost me everything, including my job which as a pale male means the end of your career, and seven years later I am still trying to rebuild my life overseas.
There is no hope. I have seen the rot from the inside. The ANC has completely destroyed every government institution there is.
Get out if you still can. Fuck South Africa. Fuck the ANC. And fuck all the Bantus who keep returning them to power. T.I.A., amiright?
@@nicky-pn3pj Vote Reform.
Another fellow saffa here - I respect your choices immensely. This country needs more bravery in the face of cowardice for the sake of power and profit.
Reminds me of the sentiment quoted various ways attributed to various people “The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.” MLK JR
@Danny Archer I had a friend in a similar situation to you, I can only imagine the courage and toll it must have taken.
She must’ve lived an incredibly sheltered life to actually believe there are no evil people, only evil actions.
There are most certainly evil humans in this world, and I hope she remains lucky enough to never run across any of them.
Agree
Completely agree. She may be too stupid to realize this.
She literally says apart from psycopaths
mental health > everything
After dating more than one person that lacked empathy it would just never occur to me to say this. I know most of us are just doing normal bad things because we are damaged and trying to cope. But some humans cope by turning all their emotions off in a way that makes them lose empathy for themselves and others. This is just the normal way they act. Now for me I also don’t consider it evil in a biblical way, I think they are so damaged they have become so dark they seem evil. They can enjoy harming others like laughing as they assault or kill. Those people def fit the criteria for evil. I think you can become so damaged you become evil and that is why we need to stop normalizing abuse and start dealing with this issue. Too many of these people are the root of the corruption in this world and once they gain power they try to stay in power and keep it in their family. Those few corrupt people that are doing this are not safe and we should all learn more about them. I wish I knew more before I fell in love with people like this. I survived narrowly but the brain damage led to me being severely disabled with severe MS. So yes, I have referred to that ex many times as evil. He gave me a bunch of concussions for months and then I woke up to him laughing over my body because he beat me unconscious. I hope to educate people more on these people so they can tell when one is hiding among them and help stop them from harming more people. And maybe I can even help some of the abusers learn how to grow and evolve into a healthier way of impacting others as I encourage people to dump them faster. We should not give these people our time and energy unless they are getting better. If they are just using us its better to identity it sooner and find a safe way out with minimal harm done to all.
Lex's most toxic trait is bending over backwards to not accept that there are malicious people in the world
Thank you for saying it! It’s been my biggest problem with his podcast since I first discovered it
Sometimes I belive it's a type of propaganda to get people to not see what's clearly in front of them... or to go easy on them whenever they finally are caught... I've been noticing a constantly repeating pattern in countless action/drama films & shows for many years now (literrly seen it over 100 times now), where the bad guy is doing absolutely horrible things, & the good guys finally get to him/her after brutally killing their way through countless of their random unamed working class hired henchman (usually between 10-100 of them they had to kill to get there) but then they have some ridiculous moral dilemma when it comes to killing the big bad guy, no don't do it.... don't let him bring you down to his level... it'll be much better to make him live with what he's done...!?!!! Umm why no reservations with all the other pawns you masacred right before this????? It has to be psychological preping the masses to let them off the hook for what they've done.
Agreed. I love him. But evil exists.
I think they are too stupid to realize it.
Disagree.
How come they have not released the list of people who visited his island???
I think we all know the reason
@@gamias3664 true
Because they don't have the safety nets to explain away themselves. That's how bad and extensive it is
Doesn't matter what it actually is, the silence speaks volumes
Because the people responsible for releasing the list like young girls.
Too many "high up on the podium" people that will fall if it's released.
Two people taking ethics seriously in complex situations. Refreshing. And no one's trying to convince Lex that it's all in their heads.
Common sense
She's a little bit gimpy with it she encourages women to do soemthing that she slanders men for help it make fecking sense and she does alot of excusing for her boy Joey lmfao hypocrite.
"There's no evil people"
*Serial killer enters the chat*
Her point about homeless people exercising control in their life in destructive ways is spot on and far more common in life than people realize. My entire life I had never stolen anything. When I turned 33 my wife was diagnosed with a terminal disease. I would wake up at 5am and administer her morning meds, clean her up, and head to work. At work I did what was required of me by my supervisors. After work I went straight home to be her caretaker until falling asleep in my work clothes. After this routine for a year or 2 I found myself compulsively going into stores where I didn't even need anything and stealing something. Nothing big , expensive or meaningful, maybe a pack of batteries from cvs or bug spray from home Depot. I didn't understand it at all and at first I thought I was chasing the dopamine that came from getting away with it. But then I started talking to a professional and I realized I was attempting to exercise control in my life. Every waking minute of my life was spent fulfilling someone else's needs, life has taken all control from me. As well as everything I cared about and this was my way of standing up to life and declaring that I am in control. People do this alot more than they realize. People throw tantrums, are mean, are spiteful , are jealous , are violent. Usually always it's a way of gaining control.
interesting ty for sharing
Sorry you went through this, I hope you does as well as you can.
Thank you for sharing! And gratitude for your awareness ❤❤❤❤
I’m sorry about your circumstances.
This explains graffiti.
U sound like a lovely human being & your wife was lucky to have you. I am sorry you went thru that. Hope u r ok now. Hope ur wife is too
People at MIT are just as crazy as everyone else, I know I worked there
That's the reality. People think that just because someone at MIT is at MIT, they somehow are above human frailty.
@@TimothyCHenderson I agree. This applies to Harvard, Caltech (I've worked here) and other private schools which is where I'm working right now. The same shit goes down at all places because crazy/evil/asshole people are everywhere.
Her analogy of the homeless trashing a bathroom was really bad😂
Have you met teenagers?
This lady who believes everyone is good and there are no evil people lives in a world so far removed from reality it's terrifying. She should be made to watch "Dateline" or "48 hours" for just a few days!!
The whole idea that a woman’s experience should be exactly the same as a man’s in every way is probably one of Western societies hugest blunders.
@@aaayyy1953 apparently 39 random people disagree with you 😂
“I don’t believe in evil people”, two seconds later… “except for Maybe sociopaths that are specifically trying to harm people”, two seconds later… “but I don’t believe people are evil..they just do bad things.”
Sounds more like she wants to believe people aren’t evil or she doesn’t like the word.
That’s how defense attorneys have to think to sleep at night.
That’s how defense attorneys have to think to sleep at night.
Danger is a lot easier to define then evil. We can agree that some people are dangerous and should be contained for the safety of others without agreeing on what evil is, or even if evil exists.
@@cerebralm Either Both Good & Evil exist or neither do, you literally can't have 1 without the other, same as you can't have light or shadow without the other, they are literally defined by the each other's existence. So not believing in either is called Nilhism.... not the noble belief yall seem to all be believing it to be to say evil doesn't exist... it's naive, it's escapism, it's even somewhat dangerous & cowardly, as you like so many become yet another willing partisapent.... baring their head I'm the sand rather than facing the beast that surely exists
@@davegraham716 I'm not saying any of the things you assume I'm saying. And what you assume I'm saying isn't even coherent. How could I be participating "willingly" in something I don't believe exists? If anything I would argue that belief in evil, seeing it as the best way to define anyone who does something reprehensible, THAT is cowardly. The unwillingness to understand, because you're afraid you might find honourable or even simply relatable motives, and that would take away your right to hatred. And for what it's worth, I think you underestimate my desire to see people hang for their crimes. I just don't feel a need to label them evil in the process. To me it's just pragmatic, protecting those who wouldn't cause such damage from people who would. To label it evil would cloud our judgment. It's just an action that needs to be stopped.
"When liberals form a firing squad they always stand in a circle" - truer words have never been spoken, her husband is a genius.
And magascim simply turn on their own and shredded them
Sooooooo true!
well her husbnad is a liberal so are you a liberal or progressive? just curious here
This is a long-known saying, but he's bright to recognize it.
Her husband has a smoking hot wife. Maybe if he never got to that place having luck with such a hot woman in his life, maybe "even" him (she probably thinks very highly of him) would have been able of doing something perverted/harassing. It's always easy for people to speak of their high values when they had it easy (myself included). She feels so entitelt. "Oh I can tell all the necessary boundaries/"lines" from the unnecessary ones, I know all the answers". She doesn't even know herself. Wants to understand everyone and disect everyone. First she should disect her own personality
This is the most well rested I have seen Lex looks for a podcast episode in a long time. Good for you Lex!
He said he values sleep and gets 6 to 8 hrs a night.
Like Lex said, he was pressured / fired from MIT. That means that the person wasn’t being accountable out of free will, they probably wouldn’t own up if they were never forced to.
Or, the person was pressured to talk to hundreds of people that were just like Epstein, and their response was "Why would I resign, when you ask me to bring these types of people into our network?".
Or they could have only admitted a small part of it to stop further investigations.
I'm at a university, have the exact same setup, many admin operate in a world completely separate from the activities of academics and students and admin keeps growing while academic numbers decline. A cult of bureaucracy.
People who say there are no evil people in the world have lived sheltered, privileged lives and their opinion should count less in society and especially politics because it simply doesn't reflect reality and leads to ineffective and damaging policy.
Fortunately Kate does not seem like she met really manipulative people. I moved away from the fundamentally everybody is good crowd a while ago, a lot of people can't and will not be recovered, they will use you and everyone around them until they drank the last drop of blood they have (metaphorically speaking), unless someone stop them.
When you think that they are fixed it's only because they moved on to victims who have not talked yet.
Yes. Having her attitude with truly self serving people is equivalent to giving in to a hostage taker or a bully's demands, it only emboldens and empowers them to do worse.
She doesn’t understands life too well
I absolutely guarantee the supervisor who groped her had done it before AND had been reported. First time it’s he said, she said and she gets a different reporting chain. Second and third and tenth time? Now we’re in criminal territory for whole institute.
And yet she basically defends GM?
Would love to see people like these two running an institution like MIT.
"Cowards are worse than assholes," this is so true!
Yes and most people are cowards. Most likely you and me also.
@@DanielAnderssson agreed, however if we all were just a little braver, at least when it isn’t overwhelmingly hard to have courage, the world would be a better place. Through overwhelming hardship, cowardice is understandable.
"Sometimes cowards are worse than assholes..." Thats pretty good
Now you know why they had to get rid of Aaron Swartz.
She doesn't know the extent of evil
@@NobuhikuObayashi easy to dismiss what you don't know, or haven't seen
And trauma isn't always necessary
@@NobuhikuObayashi you're blessed to have that view
She does.
There’s a sadness to this woman , you really can’t hide it - the more you know the more burden you carry 🤒
Really she seems about as deep as a puddle ro me.
Says theirs a reply but it's not their... refreshed & nothing... must be those 1st amendment gremlins again..... they live off of consuming our free speech & other rights.
Just when I thought I couldn't like these conversations more, the podcast comes up with an even more brilliant conversation. I love, love this analysis of a conflict and how it applies to conflicts anywhere.
Epstein the scapegoat.
yep … There is bigger acces behind shadows
And they killed the scapegoat, so now we are scapegoating Ghislaine. Just as Kate says about how we spiral out from the source snd destroy only what we have power over
the bigger question is who had him and his constituent killed and why is there no accountability for the murders? whole things unreal
If u have money, you can do whatever you like
Accountability is for poor people
Because nobody cares that he was murdered. I sure think he got what he deserved. Also the Clinton's did that shit 100%.
MIT has deep roots to Tavistock and MKUltra, just like Harvard. Great interview.
Yes! And Epstein was used to blackmail scientists, in order to keep certain narratives alive in the public science discourse, and keep them away from discovering the secret physics that gets done in Government labs, private corps secret labs, dealing with free energy, anti gravity type ufo, etc..etc..etc...Keeping the world going down a dead end keeps the grant money flowing, and everything neat and tidy. Theres no money in free energy next level tech being given to the free world. So they use blackmail to keep the science going down dead ends, like black holes, dark energy, dark matter etc....Harvard, like you mentioned, is one of the most corrupt institutions in the world. Look at how a paper from there, was used to demonize hydroxycloriquine as a theraputic in stopping virus etc...this paper turned out to be full of shti, but the damage was done, and the emergency use exemption was granted to the vax. It wouldnt have been if they didnt cancel hydroxy. They use this template with everyhthing in the world.
It's ironic that she accuses men of being unable/unwilling to understand the different perspectives of women, while at the same time she hasn't made a single effort to understand the different perspectives of men during this whole clip.
Empathy is a two way street, and expecting it to only go one way is one of the most self absorbed and unempathetic mindsets possible.
Her statement that society allows for male neuro divergence but not female Neuro divergence is an absolute falsehood, and an example of how she only looks at things from her own perspective.
Exactly. She's actually something of a coward in that respect.
Yeah she seemed like a typical cluster b airhead to me
@@SogMosee what? Lol
It’s called Public Perception. Which is why you should never take so called high profile people at face value.
Generally a lot of people are mentally unstable from duress, but that because they’re functioning and or making money at a high level it gets overlooked for all the cogs in the chain to work. Until something breaks down. The world is a cesspool.😬
Give the names of the people who need to resign.
The system of cutting off a hand from a thief was brutal, but it was really easy to spot the people who stole.
She has the ability to sit still to the extent that I think my screen is frozen.
😂😂😂
GREAT chat. thanks!
"Women are expected or told to mask their neurodivergence to kind of fit in, men are accomodated and excused"
Come on now.
Yeah, she has an oversimplified view on neurodiversity. It's actually pretty offensive. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she doesn't really know what she's talking about.
Yes, and it starts from a very young age. We don't tolerate little girls going around beating up on little boys...but we somewhat tolerate little boys beating up on each other...."boys will be boys".
@@marciamartins1992 what you're describing has nothing to do with neurodivergence.
This reminds me of Bill Burr's bit about all the people who made millions off Lance Armstrong pretending to be outraged by his doping.
still got their yachts
They can make millions and not pretend dummy. It was highly unethical, despite the others that were as well
Lance Armstrong is a dirty cheat, but some try to make excuses for him because he’s American. If he was Russian, Chinese, even French(!) the Americans would be raging that he robbed genuine, clean, honest competitors.
Remember how the US was fuming about the 14 yr old Russian ice skating girl at the winter olympics? 😂
Tally up the accounting. How many made how much money pretending outrage, how many made how much money enabling his doping.
Or people shoveling money to BLM by the millions with no questions asked so the mob didn't turn on them.
I wish I had met more women like her during my lifetime. I've rarely had the chance to witness such a mature and calmed perspective of a woman. She seems like someone who can lead a healthy environment for development.
Absolutely. It’s just so depressingly rare. And even she seemed to have a disposition that it’s not. Or that annoyance at that implication, as though we’re missing out on all these towering female intellects because of societal structures.
While that may be anecdotally true, it’s just not the case.
Jeez us. Anything to bag on women. Time to turn the record over, sweets.
When an adult fully engages a child into a serious situation that will violate them and abuse them .I feel it is the most horrible crimes against the innocent, which is what she did over many years to many young girls !! I hope she gets the full sentence for her crimes in spite of her money and connections !!!!
"You can be a weird person and know its not ok to lick someone's arm." YES. Should go without saying...yet...
Something like that deserves immediate retaliation, because before you know it, you're a boiled frog.
That's the most stupid reason I've ever heard for trashing a bathroom.
I agree. That sounds like psychobabble.
Well, they do do that. What's your explanation?
@@Bubbles99718 Just because they are assholes would be a better explanation.
@@Bubbles99718 They’re bat shit crazy and/or on substances. It’s not as poetic as her answer, but more likely.
I wish they would fill us in on what happened at MIT and what the cowardly actions were…and I wish she would give details on the “red flags”… it all sounds so mysterious with few examples
Really enjoyed you two.. Fantastic discussion and insight. Appreciate the excellent content Lex 👊 👍😉
“If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of” -Jordan Peterson
She has seen it for herself.
Of COURSE they knew about his prior conviction. That slap on the wrist was the ADVERTISEMENT that let those kinds of people know he was the guy who was connected and can get away with it, so invite him into your office and have a private chat with him about the goods and services he can procure. Now that he got dumped, it moved on to the next guy. Now you understand why the interview with Prince Andrew was so ridiculous, yet he got away with it. It's just a marketing strategy to show who the next point of contact is for that underworld.
The elephant is the room:
When these "Sloors" were presented by Epstein to MIT staff their humanity didn't matter to the men and especially their humanity didn't matter to the women. Because they were sloors/ cattle. lower class cattle. The humanity of a sloor doesn't matter!
So when Epstein showed up with these "sloors" none of the most "intelligent" people in our nation gave a f*!
Perhaps these MIT women were put off because they couldn't match these desirability factor. Which blinded them to the CRIMINAL factor!! But the FACT is: all of these "feminist" at MIT didn't give a rats as* about protecting these children from these predator perverts because of their own egos!
OR maybe they were in shock. But that's a cop out too!! You guys are supposed to be the smartest people in our nation and you can't identify a PIMP!!??? FU!!! You knew EXACTLY what Epstein was but you didn't care because your an elitist f***
These girls were poor and you are rich....protecting them was simply not in your interest!
And the men are just scum.
We as women either protect each other or we don't. This went on because all of these smart people at MIT feel above a "SLOOOR" so her life didn't matter!!! Just f*ing admit it!!! And stop hiding behind your flakey pretense. You people suck and you are a huge part of the problem!!!
The police should have been called when Epstein paraded underage girls in front of scientist but no one did....not even the woman! Ya SUCK! ADMITT IT!!!!!
GREAT CONVERSATION THANK YOU BOTH
I think risk aversion is the natural reaction to any asymmetrical risk/reward situation. A minimal reward for doing the right thing, and risk of ruin for doing the wrong thing/making a mistake breeds ultra conservative risk strategies.
Seems like both of them are trying really hard to explain away corruption, complicity, lack of integrity and sex trafficking. It must not be these things but some kind of inevitable aspect of human nature.
A much more interesting conversation would be about the projects he was funding then cross references them with his personal writings. That’s where the most interesting topics lie. He has quotes along the lines of “I want to populate the entire planet with my seed” and was funding projects to make himself immortal.
That mindset definitely still lives on and they have a lot of money…
Exactly what I was thinking... as much as his Chanel is about science & cutting edge tech, I'm super surprised about the lack of interest in his mysterious hidden New Mexico James bond- SuperVillianEsk underground multimillion$ funded cutting edge Madscience Laboratories were up to... & why that's still not been properly & thouregly investigated?? Then again why would we expect them to when the authorities don't even investigate the most ridiculous bannarepublic all the cameras in the byilding simultaneously being erased- prison murder? Or breakout? Neither can be ruled out... only a suicide can be ruled out.... 0% chance of that... & if you think it was... you need to go to the hospital cause you must have some worms eating your freaking brain my friend.
These particular people (inhabiting the realms of the 1%) think they are gods, no hyperbole involved.
Musk seems to be doiing this on a smaller scale mating with multiple women to increase his progeny.
Lex, you are an excellent interviewer. Extremely adept at exploring many different aspects of a subject without showing prejudice or preference…impressive.
Really interesting! Thanks for sharing!!
She sounds complicit
Great conversation.
My step dad obtained 2 degrees from MIT before his naval officer career (long ago). He was/is still socially awkward. Hearing about Epstein and the MIT donations and such he actually said something to the effect of
"college taught me about people and how that elite world works. The Navy taught me that how the elite world works is also taught in those colleges"
He theorized that MIT was only working on the learned behavior of accepting money for research at any means necessary. As a taught behavior.
Made sense to me...considering my step dad's achievements and stunning career with world elites, I will take him at his word.
Richard Stallman licked a woman's arm from wrist to elbow. I picture that taking a second or two to happen. An important question that did not get asked here is: what did the woman do while he was licking her, or even right after? A common cliche in old movies, from 1940's give or take a decade, is a woman slapping a man's face and saying something like "Fresh!" I think more women slapping a man's face in person, in the moment, either actually or metaphorically, is the real MeToo movement we need.
If a man did that to another man, it would be a swift kick in the balls. Why hold back with just a slap?
Shock and freeze response. women aren't socialized to slap men! That opens her up to assault charges and makes him sympathetic.
Keep in mind the dude was not an anomaly. There’s many of them in all walks of life, some just have the power to exercise it at insane depth. High percentage are likely concentrated in CEO and political positions. More similarities and psyche than most acknowledge. They’re after power and gravitate where it’s attainable.
9:36 She literally paused in frame thought the video got buffered 😂
Get the truth out there!!
The most dangerous men in our society are the weak ones that yield great power.
I have a question about the discussion about how to respond to someone/groups that are upset and yelling because they are mad at actions. At what point does a person have to reach in a situation where they have angered the mob and tried everything that you laid out for the person to do to understand? Say the person asked the reason for the outrage, Realized it was baseless, explained that to them and yet was still getting yelled at? If the person knows that they haven't done wrong and was receiving the outrage because the feelings had been hurt I feel like a person has a responsibility to stand their ground. The current culture we find ourselves in are a result of people not standing for what they believe in if they know that it was right!
I think it’s very telling how careful she seems to be about what she says. It should be more than obvious the implications of having a foreign intelligence blackmail operation fully entrenched in the most prestigious academic institutions. This going on at a time when we are being told to “trust the science” and to give up our most basic freedoms and rights. Get some balls people.
Yep they let the lunatics on colleges campuses take over the asylum - and so many more institutions
Well said. Grow a pair.
Yes - this aspect has been covered up very carefully. Israel is the only so-called friendly country that has active intelligence operations in the USA. Epstein bribed these professors for a reason - to get access to their research. Research is very valuable and the basis for innovative products , Epstein used this research either for himself, for his billionaire friends or for Israel.
Come on guys. Money talks. It’s the loudest voice in the room. Let’s not forget that hindsight is easy.
You can talk all day…. His client list is still missing.
Why not pressure that point?
Ohhhhh here you go Lex…. money….. dirty politics…. sex… power….since the beginning of time. You think this guy was an original? Let’s be honest, When he was alive…. No one would believe a word you say without proof… Fact.
Hindsight is talentless.
Cowardice IS a thing however. Plenty to go around here
Eastein was just a facilitator. Maybe even the fall guy.....?
Of course, a few people knew what was happening. This took horrific, emense , and audacious coordination. I would estimate at least a 1000 people knew. All over the world.
Zoe IT'S just like with the COVID Scandal: millions of people know what happened with the covid virus and the vaccine but they are not all together in the same room hence-- lacking cohesion-- they lack power and they are afraid.😟
It is nice to hear the encouragement to listen to the reasons of angry people.
I disagree with her saying that there are no evil people. There are beyond evil people in this world - serial killers are yet one example and there are most evil people amongst serial killers.
Man it is crazy how full of ish adults are these days. It actually sounds like this interview is about reprimanding toddlers. (“But but bu…nuerodivergence!”😂) I would trust a random lumberjack on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere with my life before I trusted some wuss in Academia with my car.
Thank you for this. Was thinking it but u put it nicely
@@mojojojo1529 Actually hes right and clearly someone should slap the holy shit out of you 😆
THESE SO CALLED INTELLECTUALS ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT AS TO THE WAYS OF THE WORLD.
Flavors of ish abound within us all...may seem starkly different at the surface..in more ways than not are utilized for the same means and end up at the same place...contemplate the fundamentals and get out of the shit. In short:
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Haha my husband is a lumberjack (which are called timber fallers these days) and he is the most honest, gentlest and safest person to be with you could ever wish to meet!
@@didactica9326 Oh man these days falling some timber sounds so nice.
The fact that people who are supposed to be intelligent are only figuring stuff like this out at this later point in their lives demonstrates very clearly that intelligence is not the same as wisdom.
There are lots of evil people in this world.
They don’t realize that they’re the cowards they’re trying to describe. Stop laboring over the complexity of evil and make a stand against it.
I would think there would be more security……lol.
You can always tell if someone is mostly a good person.
Even if they are super charismatic, there is something deep down that knows if someone is fundamentally 'dodgy'.
I always judge by thinking 'would I leave my kids with this person'.
Right up until you meet a real sociopath, that system will work well.
There's allot of people in this world... easily millions who have made that mistake. Whether it be another person, a babysitter, a teacher, could even go as far as say the govt. The schooling systems, cps......
"What if you're like an incredibly weird person?" Lol
In other words, all will continue until the public says stopping now.
The world is full of only good people. There are no evil people, just good people that do bad things. I'm sorry, she definitely does not live in the real world.
as empath targeted by narcissistic I disagree .
You can see evil or bad spirits in them sometimes
There is no one good but God.
I'm afraid there are evil people in this world.20:46
They hate the word evil but imagine what they do with the word 'sin.' Recoil like vampires, like most people.
What I learned. Everyone is corruptible, you just need to find what that person wants and offer that person just what they want.
Because people don't have morals.
You’re missing a big point, he definitely had information and could blackmail people which doesn’t absolve them either.
EXACTLY IT'S called kompromat which is the Russian word for blackmailing people that you have information on.
IT is thought that the government was involved and allowed Epstein to get away with everything. THE first conviction due to the government's involvement resulted in him getting off with a light punishment. He was free in the day to carry on n only slept in the prison at nite. It was only when a child went to her parents and said this is what this man is doing to me that they could no longer avoid the reality. They let their spy be sacrificed. THE day before he was murdered in the cell --all the pictures, which were hundreds and thousands, were taken as well as the list of people he knew. This was an inside hob from beginning to end. And Maxwell knew exactly what was happening and she was part of the operation because she brought in the young girls and often involved them and orgies when they thought they were going to be giving massage in exchange for spending money. She's now in a low security prison where she swims daily and gets to see movies
Uh yeah, there are evil people. Get in a relationship with someone with borderline personality disorder or talk to a daughter of a narcissistic Mother. Stories of my life. There are evil people. Some people are broken. They don't understand love at all. Everything is transactional. They just don't get it. Some are so deluded they project their bullshit onto you and accuse you of what they do. It's really messed up. They gaslight you and your loved ones into thinking you're the one with a mental illness. They isolate you. It's hard to tell if they believe their own lies or are that disconnected from reality.
Exactly. She’s either extremely sheltered or stupid. Probably both. In fact, she is the type of person evil people love and want around.
Absolutely well done Lex. 👏
Goooood konversation @!!!!! 🤗👌🏻
Regarding the question about how Epstein got INTO the MIT circles, people are very, very rarely in an unassailable position - even a tenured professor is not untouchable. Sharing an instinct or opinion publicly about someone is risky in the 21st century workplace. For that alone, you could get called a bully, or sexist, or a bigot, or whatever. When it comes to pointing out someone's flaw or glaring red flag that is clearly a powerful person - like your boss introduces you to them, or the creep drops names... those are strands of the social web that will go a-jangling when you shake them. Add to that the legitimate desperation university departments have when it comes to getting funds or extra time or influence with a policy maker... a person's career can become radioactive in a matter of seconds.... at the whim of some office stooge.
Just as every single person has a different vocabulary, every person has a different collection of instances where someone like Epstein could have revealed their true, dark self - a nuanced silent laugh, a hard stare, a connection someone made after the fact. Not everyone knew the same information. Now if someone at MIT EXPERIENCED Epstein's degenerate behavior or had it on trusted authority he was a pedophile or sex trafficker or whatever, then anonymous tips should have been given at least.
Around 20:30 Kate and Lex discuss people doing evil things and essentially all people are good,this goes against the reality that there are very obviously inherently evil people in our world that seem normal at first look but may have very dysfunctional and abusive tendancies in theri personalities.A malignant narcassist is incapable of behaving in what most of us would consider "normal" behavior ,they only mimic this type of behavior to those that call them out.
" Haven't you been doing that for two hours now ? " HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed.”
Smart does not mean good
Can we try to make lex to being Eric Weinstein back in his pod. Where did he go? I miss Eric so much.
'Amen' sister. I absolutely agree, and learned early that assholes have much more integrity than cowards.
The statement that people of different walks of life see things differently is completely true and that is why an organizations needs this kind of diversity to keep it in check. An organization that only has like-mind people starts developing a kind of numbness to impropriety and abuse. The story of what Richard Spellman did to her friend is appalling particularly hearing that the rest of the people tried to laugh it out. I would have punch him in the face! My daughter is applying currently to MIT and this has been an eye opening discussion.
What makes you think everyone in MIT is genius and pious 😂😂😂😂😂 ??
They don’t communicate with emojis ?
Two siblings who went there, lots of not very smart people and lots of jerks at MIT. Faculty and undergrad and grad students included.
I’m sure she’s brilliant in her field but I wasn’t very impressed by this portion of the interview.
"Sometimes cowards are worse than assholeS" - That's going down on my list of universal rules!
I have a story that I think illustrates Lex's guest's idea regarding the acknowledging of the anger of a person whike not engaging in the anger, but rather engaging with the facts that caused them to get angry.
THE story is about a man who actually was a boxer and that's how he earned his living and he ALWAYS won.
HE was challenged once in a pub-- I believe in Ireland or someplace like that because I think he was Celtic --and he said: SURE. And then he said-- LET'S take it outside. SO they went outside and he was dressed nicely--in a suit and a white shirt and a tie. HE slowly took off the shirt; the jacket; the tie and cap.
He laid them very neatly on the ground. THEN he faced his contestant and the Man by this time was so amazed and so scared due to this ritual that this very well known boxer had done that he said-- NO, I don't want to fight.
I thought that was an amazing TRUE story and I think it's on a graphic level it illustrates what your guest was trying to indicate should be done when you are faced with someone who's angry at you. ONE could of course analyze that and say that NOW, after tge pause reauired for the bixer to dusribe, he was no longer angry but I think something much deeper was happening because actually he was REALLY scared NOW of this other man where he had not been when he challenged him to a fight, even though he knew his reputation.
I think it could be the contrast between cold Fury and hot anger: of the two, the former is much more lethal and much more scary and THEY NEVER quit till they're done. And he said as much after he told the story: he said his MO was to fight til death😱.
Kate Darling managed to blow my mind, in the first five minutes alone, without saying anything I didn’t know already. But the way she phrased it, is so profound and clear, it as if you hear something for the first time, and yet you somehow knew it all along.
It always comes to mind if it was one Jeff Epstein are there more like him
what is an interesting point is Jeffrey and his friends worked in schools, and maybe all schools perform this way. Who knows! . Picking out the girls or boys they needed to feed his friends, Who knows!
Let's enjoy the day 🧡
I want a partner like Kate
Smart, cute, sweet smile. Yeah don't we all.
Wise choice Hermano 😎
@@chengezhussaini1464 lol right
@@someguy1169 you are goddamn right
@@mateopereyra790 VR *someday* LOL