BMW M60 & M62 V8 Engine - Simple fix for Inlet Manifold - BMW M60/M62
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Inlet manifold leaks on the BMW V8's are a bit of a pain, as removing the inlet manifold involves removing 20 year-old parts that crack, disintegrate and get lost. This video shows how to fix inlet manifold leaks WITHOUT removing the manifold using nothing more than the addition of 10 x M12 form 'A' washers.
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I did this repair on my BMW 840ci with the M62 engine in 2014 - adaptations had reached their limit and I was getting misfires at idle and poor low-rev performance. I had removed the inlet manifold on my old E32 V8 in the past and knew what a pain it was, the most worrying thing was that it involved bending the ancient engine looms at ungainly angles - and on old brittle wires that is asking for problems - let alone getting those blasted connectors off the injectors, the possibility of getting grit in the engine and all sorts of other hassles.
So, this time I used a simple method as described here to fix the problem - and it fixed it rather well with no problems four years later.
During recording I also found that one of the vacuum take-off point bungs had failed after five years and replaced that as shown.
The write-up can be found here:
www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_E31_...
I'll cover the PCV and throttle-body gaskets in another video
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Thanks so much for posting! I know nothing about my e32 740 and you've helped me so much
Glad to help!
today I am going to do just what you have shown here, its rather simple and very useful to rid of vacuum leak, also I have to replace CCV in the back seal and in the front which is going to be real pain I am afraid. Thanks for the vid :)
My pleasure!
Thank you Tim! You are awesome, and beautyfull bmw's!
Glad you like them Mikael!
Thanks for the video
AWESOME insight and way of remedy on the inexpensive side of DIYdom...Thnx a million....Unlike GDMN Kardashians,You deserve millions of subscribers.....Merry Christmass (if you celebrate it) and all holidays you care for,,,,,from AZ ,,USA
Thanks, that's very kind of you!
I think this may only work on gaskets that are still pliable. On my car E38 M62b44, they (gaskets and compression washers) basically turned to plastic and the manifold gaskets had cracks everywhere.
Ty!
excellent video
Thanks!
i'll try this method to my
#update : this method is working in my case , but ill replace that round seal 11mm, because 1 seal is failing, and i still get that annoying leaks
1994 e34 530i m60 hope this fix my annoying vaccum leaks from side to side of the intake manifold
Thank you SIR!!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
You are very welcome
Excellent idea/video.. I think I will try it to solve my vacuum leak
purchased fixer 530i with m60b30 engine. drive it home but immediately started cleaning the car. under the intake manifold had became home for many rats/mice and upon blasting the leaves out with an air hose i cracked the already brittle knock sensors.
next day after some rest we pull the manifold off and did all we thought would’ve been necessary for maintenance; new knock sensors, hosing, new gaskets, and a new throttle body. after reassembling we started the car and immediately there was a problem.
we had bought a 540 throttle body, so we swapped it out, tried it out again and low and behold the problem was…better. but now we have a misfire that wasn’t there prior.
we cleaned the coil packs/spark plugs but never replaced either. it’s one of those situations where i’ve spent a lot of time trying to get a result and i’m still scratching my head. hoping spark is all the issue is.
anyone above me have an idea what could be happening here??
Best way forward is to use INPA as I show in another video to check the adaptation value and the smoothness values of each cylinder - that will find any vacuum leak.
Hello Timm thank you very much, you helped me on the bimmer forum with the main fuse next to the battery on my E31 , hey whats the part number on that plug in the back of the manifold you said u changed 5 years ago thers one pic of the bottom plug but not the top one … thanks in advance my friend cheers!!!
Glad it helped, the part is 11611437694: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=EF82-EUR-11-1998-E31-BMW-840Ci&diagId=11_1538
Hey Timm...love the channel...it has provided some very useful tips that I have been able to apply to my 2001 E39 540i M sport.......I do have a couple of questions relating to this manifold gasket leak fix....
1. Do you re tighten the hollow fixings until they bottom out, or is there a torque setting that should be used, and secondly my issue may not be related to the manifold gaskets leaking but I have tried a lot of things to try and fix it. The engine starts and idles fine and accelerates very well, but what it does do is hunt or surge when you have just a small amount of throttle applied.
Codes say missfire on bank B, but the problem does not seem to be evident at any other stage of driving other than light throttle......very frustrating as I have replaced coils, plugs, airflow meter, fuel filters, crank case ventilator (rear of intake manifold)...cleared any oil residue in the plug ports......am wondering if as other's have suggested, it could be injector seal leaking, but I have never had them out myself.......I welcome any thoughts you may have on this......I'm keen to try and try the washer method as it is simple and cheap to do, and I hope may well solve the problems I have....cheers Dale M ( Aus )
Hello Dale, firstly, every M60, M62 and M62TUB I have owned does the hunting revs thing when the throttle is slowly pushed past the idle (you have to do it quite slowly), so don't worry about that!
Yes, when the nuts are tightened on the hollow fixing I put just a pinch on them, nothing more than a handful of N/M, tightening them any further makes no difference!
Hi mate, any chance I could buy your 540? I’m uk based
I just did this washer fix under the manifold fixtures and I didn't believe it would be so easy but I was proved wrong. I'm chasing a vacuum leak, I think, on my 2004 Range Rover Land Rover 4.4l W/ BMW 62M TU engine, and hope this is a fix?
Well, it will be if it's the manifold that's leaking. There's a few other areas for vacuum leaks. But make sure you have one first using this method: czcams.com/video/c1mq6Fllp9k/video.html
Dear Tim.
I had a similar problem on my 840Ci (M62) but out of this other issues developed after replacing the crankshaft vent and the biggest one I face is fuel leaks from the injectors.
As good measure I removed the injectors and fitted new o-rings but now after 6-times taking things apart and fixing them back, still 3 are leaking at the top.
Do you have any suggestion on how best to tackle this problem?
Appreciate, thanks.
Hi, from my perpective of m60 e32 if you are at the step to replacing those gaskets kit, you should use for connection and assembli parts a little film of victor reinz silicone. First as silicone is lubricating so during screwing is slides and get into perfect final poition. Second advantage is that after one day of drying (do not lauch engine immediatelly after the assembly) this silicone is for me about 50 percent better insulation with higher connection area .
Hi TImm
When removing oil filler cap should there be any vacum suction and engine rpm change?
Yes, removing the oil filler cap allows un-metered air into the manifold and that will affect the idle speed.
Smart Guy... Hi Timm, could this leak be associated with an annoying 02 error (all 4 sensors are brand new) that keeps coming back on an otherwise smooth engine (202km RR-L322)
Here's how to check: czcams.com/video/c1mq6Fllp9k/video.html
Hi Timm, stumbled across your post while looking for specific compression rubber gromets/washers. Couple of questions hoping you can help with. On the inlet manifold spacer, in particular the rubber compression washer , would you say the internal diameter hole is around 10mm? and the wider part be around 24/25mm external diameter. Lastly would you know where in the UK I could buy just the rubber gromets .. cheers in advance.
I've tried a few rubbery bits with no success - they are either too stiff or just disintegrate!
@Timm Whats your take on using the lower temperature thermostat (88 Degrees)to reduce temperatures and reduce gasket and timing chain guides wear?
Yes, that will extend the life of lots of parts including the oil!
Buonasera...volevo chiedere gentilmente dove trovo il termostato che apre a 88 gradi per il mio 4.6is
What is the partnumber for just the rubber gaskets? cant seem to find a partnumber for them
Here you go: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=EF83-USA-05_1995_E31_BMW_840Ci&diagId=11_1538#11611433328
ok Timm me again lol car is a 1994 740i the nuts on my m60 intake are 11mm is it still the m12 washers my car is stalling randomly today i got 3 miles out of it before on a downward slope it cut off there is a hissing under the hood and behind the cluster area i really want to get this thing sorted and going to a shop is not in the budget any insight is appreciated
That sounds like the usual PCV problem - all explained here: www.meeknet.co.uk/E32/PCV/Index.htm
please sir i was changing my pcv on my 1994 740i following the instructions on your sight everything was going well all the bolts came out i was proceeding to try to remove it from the pipe i tried to head your words of warning about the pipe and unclipped it and man was that thing stuck in that tube .the pipe i tried to keep in place with long pliers but i guess i got a little to overzealous with the prytool and the pliers slipped and out came the pipe .please can it be re installed i dont want to pull the intake or the throttle body my car is in pieces need your help
Hopefully by now you will know the answer is yes, it can be replaced but it's a bit fiddly!
Timm's BMW Repairs and Information thanks Timm you answered both questions on the forum I appreciate it
Hi Timm, I'm Philippe from France and I have a question regarding my car. I have a 840i from 1994 and for the cold start, the engine is not turning right. It seems that there is too much fuel. After few minutes, the engine is checking less but it is not running as it should do. The coils and sparks are brand new. Injector not but have been cleaned. The car have been stopped for more than three years. So, if you have any idae , please let me know. And keep going! It is a very good channel and I try to improve my english. Best regards
Hello Philippe, good to hear from you. Long cranking from cold usually means the fuel pressure has been lost. The fuel pressure should stay at around 2-Bar for weeks - if it drops then the engine is hard to start. The problem is usually the one-way valve in the fuel pump OR at the fuel pressure regulator on the back of the fuel rail. The way forward is to get a cheap kit from Ebay with a 'T' piece to measure the pressure.
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Hi Timm, thank's for your reply. I will try to check the fuel pressure on the car. Best regards! Philippe
On the manifold next to the ccv what is the name of that little orange gasket ?
You will find it here Ben: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=EF82-EUR-11-1998-E31-BMW-840Ci&diagId=11_1538
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation thank you Tim 😀
Is that a 850csi? Such a beautiful car ❤️
Thank you - but it is the lowly 840ci!
Timm's BMW Repairs and Information still a e31. Bmw did such a great job designing that car. The dash is way ahead of its time with all the buttons and what not.
I have a 2001 e38 I just picked up and mine has a line attached to that one that is capped in this application. The line is disintegrated. Should I cap it or replace it? Mine is a US spec car.
Don't cap it, that's the vacuum for your brake booster!
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation no, there is a separate line that's going to my booster. I was able to find a part number and bought that new along with the jet. This one is separate and comes out where the yellow plastic is.
Hi Tim my name is Alvin. I have the 2005 BMW 645CI.
Could you please show me where my Non return value is, I need to check both of them. Thank you in advance. Please help me.
Hello Alvin, if you are talking about the petrol supply, the pressure is retained between the fuel rail (injectors closed) and the fuel regulator/filter/pump unit in the tank.
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Thank for all your help.
Stay safe. 😀
Thanks again for all your help Tim. I want you to know that you have great cars and that you have great videos. I am a big fan of yours. God-bless you and your family.
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Thanks again Tim for all your help. Again I'm a big fan of yours, and I love you are vehicles.
You need to replace the rubber compressors
Washers are a darn sight cheaper!
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation the rubber goes to crap
Nice - not so common - color on both cars.
Thanks! They are Barberarot for the 650i and Mora Metallic for the 840ci - both quite rare!
Rare indeed. I've got an Calypso Red E31 850 (not so rare). I'm in the market (looking for) an E64. I was afraid for the problems with the V8's but thanks to your information not so much anymore. (I own several other BMW's as well).
@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Your 840 is amazing colour! My 850 is silver, quite boring at first, but I'm liking it more and more. Always wanted non metallic black, those look so mean and angry :)