EastEnders - Mitch Blames Karen For Chantelle's Death | 15th March 2022

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  • @PSwarrior25
    @PSwarrior25 Před 2 lety +47

    Karen defended Grey to the last minute. What Mitch said was right

  • @rapidsmartypants
    @rapidsmartypants Před 2 lety +102

    Karen: (Crying) How could you say all that stuff to me?
    Me: Didn’t you call Mitch a monster just before you learned the truth?

    • @lukedaley17
      @lukedaley17 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes. I hate it when women try to play the victim.

    • @Hutchman98
      @Hutchman98 Před rokem +1

      Karen is a hypocrite, but I still feel sorry for her hurt

  • @raesarchives
    @raesarchives Před 2 lety +74

    His not wrong, he said it from the jump and everyone thinks the same. Gray never liked Karen but like Mitch said cause he was polished and had money she ignored all the signs

    • @AS-wj1du
      @AS-wj1du Před rokem +2

      She just ignored his treatment of her and chantelle for money, living the high life but chantelle should have said something

  • @IvyatHeart
    @IvyatHeart Před 2 lety +49

    Long story short, both parties made truth filled arguments but Karen deserves and needed to be humbled... I'm just sorry it took losing Chantelle, Tina, and Kush who didn't deserve to die for it to happen

  • @wut-dah_7212
    @wut-dah_7212 Před 2 lety +65

    Whilst that’s obviously unfair, I can understand where he’s coming from in his state of mind and grief. When stuff like this happens we as humans want to rationalize and place blame, whether it be on ourselves or others to make tragedy make sense, when in actuality the fact that it happened at all and people like Gray enter our lives is the only thing at fault.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree with Karen and Mitch. Mitch shouldn't of walked out on chantelle and Karen should've listened to Mitch about Gray. However, sadly hindsight is a wonderful thing and even if they did know Chantelle would've begged them to leave Gray alone because she loved him despite his evil ways

  • @youtuber.2630
    @youtuber.2630 Před 2 lety +30

    Grief can make people say nasty things, i can understand where Mitch is coming from though.

  • @davidjonathandunitz1528
    @davidjonathandunitz1528 Před 2 lety +35

    Karen was wrong to throw Mitch out. She was right in that he wasn't much of a dad over the years. But she was very naive in allowing Gray to dupe her all that time and she and Mitch need each other now.

    • @dynahvelvixin.8615
      @dynahvelvixin.8615 Před 2 lety +6

      They both have their faults okay but Mitch was right saying he sensed something about Gray and Karen was naive and couldn't see it. But Mitch wasn't around okay he did come back and tried to make things right. They both have their faults in certain ways. But Gray is the one who killed Chantelle and was the abuser he was the one to blame for it all.

  • @shannonsmith4174
    @shannonsmith4174 Před 2 lety +14

    totally 1 billion percent agree with you mitch......

  • @lukedaley17
    @lukedaley17 Před 2 lety +43

    It was pretty harsh of Mitch to blame Karen for Chantelle’s death, but I can understand why he said that stuff. Because Gray was rich, Handsome and had a high profile job, it made Karen oblivious to what Gray was really like.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +4

      Karen also called a Mitch a 'Monster' as Martin said they are all equally to.blame as none of them seen Grays true evil side

    • @lukedaley17
      @lukedaley17 Před 2 lety +2

      @@abbieroseholden4174 Mitch saw it and tried to tell Karen. But she wouldn’t believe it.

    • @fastvalkary725
      @fastvalkary725 Před rokem +2

      @@abbieroseholden4174 none of them are to blame for Chantelle's death the only one to blame is Gray. Karen is to blame for constantly making a villain of Mitch after Chantelle died. It was wrong of Mitch to say that.

  • @Beth-ve7ob
    @Beth-ve7ob Před 2 lety +114

    Karen kissed Gray's butt always. Even when he did not attend Chantelle's funeral. Gray sneered at Karen and she ignored it every single time and kissed his butt yet again. Karen will have plenty to think about when she's alone now.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +21

      I agree with this however, Karen was right Mitch wasn't there for Chantelle either

    • @jaredporikos2197
      @jaredporikos2197 Před 2 lety +1

      @@abbieroseholden4174 excatly

    • @rapidsmartypants
      @rapidsmartypants Před 2 lety +6

      @@abbieroseholden4174 True. So in a way, they’re both at fault

    • @KeeshiexAsh
      @KeeshiexAsh Před 2 lety +1

      @@rapidsmartypants only one at fault is gray. People like him know how to twist and manipulate their victims and the people around them. Even when their off the scene they still find ways to stick the knife in.

    • @AS-wj1du
      @AS-wj1du Před rokem +1

      Mitch is right. He saw through gray. Karen thought because he was rich, he was good. If she looked back, she'd see the signs of fear in chantelle. Mitch did and tried to draw it out of her more than once. She should have said something. She had time. She left it late

  • @myataye2196
    @myataye2196 Před 2 lety +19

    All the real eastenders lovers know the only reason Mitch did not act on his instincts about gray is because everyone kept trying to convince him that he was crazy when he would go against Gray. Grey did use Karen as a weapon and she deffo she knows that now , she didn’t even believe his confession at first !! Even Denise doubted Gray, but Karen always worshipped him smh.

  • @peterdavies2903
    @peterdavies2903 Před 2 lety +10

    What a childhood those kids have had🙁😔

  • @danny_long_legs
    @danny_long_legs Před 2 lety +10

    Always step up if you have your suspicious then you will not feel like how Mitch is feeling.

  • @oh2887
    @oh2887 Před 2 lety +12

    Poor Bailey ☹ she will be so disappointed that Mitch and Karen have fallen out.

  • @hunterhaywood5968
    @hunterhaywood5968 Před 2 lety +5

    Yassssss Mitch. Tell her bout herself!!

  • @abbieroseholden4174
    @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +8

    Martin is right hindsight is a wonderful thing. And they all should've known about Gray the truth is you can't let him destroy anymore. Let him rot in prison!! Let him be scared of being hurt everyday the same way he hurt Chantelle!!!

  • @chillieboi2145
    @chillieboi2145 Před 2 lety +15

    No one is to blame here, its all said in haste. Grief is a very powerful thing we say all sorts. Gray had every one fooled that is how a narcissist works he is the one to blame.

    • @dynahvelvixin.8615
      @dynahvelvixin.8615 Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly 100% Gray was the main one to blame.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dynahvelvixin.8615 I sound evil there was only ever going to be one way poor Chantelle would be free of evil Gray and he did it didn't he? He killed her. Such a shame Eastenders didn't make her hit him with an iron in self defence like Little Mo

  • @patdoe5242
    @patdoe5242 Před 2 lety +9

    If Mitch knew that there was something from the beginning then why didn't he investigate further in their relationship and you really blame Karen cuz Chantell hid everything what had gone on in their relationship in which her shoes was too scared to say anything and didn't want her parents involved and Gray was very good of putting the wool over every ones eyes

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +2

      He kept asking Chantelle what's going on. She defended Gray what was he supposed to do? We all know if Mitch saw Gray hurt Chantelle he would have him

    • @dynahvelvixin.8615
      @dynahvelvixin.8615 Před 2 lety

      Mitch sensed something about Gray be he didn't know it was abuse. Yes he asked Chantelle was she ok when he sensed something but Chantelle kept hiding it.

  • @JinWBO
    @JinWBO Před 2 lety +53

    While I do blame Karen for always blindly defending Gray, Mitch also never tried to do that much considering how much more he knew, only the occasional minor thing. I'd still put this on Karen a bit more, but both are at fault to a degree.
    Also... how much is Karen gonna bring up how Mitch had abandoned the family for years? While yes, it was bad, it also feels like she's not willing to listen to anything he says and brushes it all off. All she does is point her fingers, raise her voice, and kick him out to dodge listening to him.

    • @CammyTheSportsEntertainer
      @CammyTheSportsEntertainer Před 2 lety +10

      Gray had money and put on a facade. Karen, a mother from a lower class background, who earns little money admired Gray's wealth. So was blinded by it. I think Mitch really wanted to but Karen always guilt tripped Mitch using his past mistakes to put doubt in his mind.

    • @JinWBO
      @JinWBO Před 2 lety +1

      @@CammyTheSportsEntertainer that does make sense, like I imagine that she sees this as Gray being a better father figure than Mitch was, and that Mitch would just damage the family again with his supposed recklessness. If Karen can help it, she wouldn't wanna end up in a life of struggle again, and back then, she had no reason to doubt Gray at all, nothing that she noticed anyway.

    • @CammyTheSportsEntertainer
      @CammyTheSportsEntertainer Před 2 lety +10

      @@JinWBO Mitch made alot of mistakes and he had the decency to acknowledge his behaviour. However, Karen constantly bringing it up when Mitch was suspicious of Gray was out of order. To me it felt like Karen didn't care what anyone thought because Gray was rich until Gray himself told her. I personally think it was partly why Chantelle was scared to tell her family. Gray being abusive the main reason. But Karen being Gray's blue eyed golden boy being the secondary reason.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +1

      The only person to blame is Gray. Whitney is right no one knew what happened between Chantelle and Gray the truth was hidden. No one wants to believe their daughters husband is hurting her as that's not how it usually happens. Gray is the one who hurt Chantelle he is to blame for all of this and Chantelle even knew that that's why she never told Karen or Mitch

    • @AS-wj1du
      @AS-wj1du Před rokem

      @@CammyTheSportsEntertainer true. Bet if chantelle told Karen what gray did she'd be like no way whereas mitch would have immediately believed her. She overlooked it due to money

  • @ASS-tb3mq
    @ASS-tb3mq Před 2 lety +29

    I can also understand where Mitch is coming from I mean Karen knew gray for a good 10 years and never realised

    • @Borninthe80s.
      @Borninthe80s. Před 2 lety +8

      Don’t think anyone would think their child’s partner was abusing them

    • @ASS-tb3mq
      @ASS-tb3mq Před 2 lety +11

      @@Borninthe80s. Yh but still she should’ve noticed Chantelle being extremely nervous and stuff

    • @paulclarke3182
      @paulclarke3182 Před 2 lety

      Huh? I thought she only knew him from 2019.

    • @Beth-ve7ob
      @Beth-ve7ob Před 2 lety +7

      Karen did NOT want to realise what was happening. A broken arm? Bruises? Jumpy? Nervous all the time? And Gray looking down on Karen from his lofty perch as a rich man; Karen then kowtowed to him and acted as if he was her superior. Mitch is right that Karen should have known something was not right. With Keegan bolting too, Karen will be alone as far as adult companionship goes. And she has done that to herself.

    • @HM-rw3zx
      @HM-rw3zx Před 2 lety +2

      10 years?

  • @eastenders6658
    @eastenders6658 Před 2 lety +7

    Gray reminds me of Owen just that Owen changed after life in prison hopefully Gray will change

  • @lucindabundy1887
    @lucindabundy1887 Před 2 lety +8

    Karen was too soft on gray that's why she didn't see it

  • @eastenders6658
    @eastenders6658 Před 2 lety +6

    Poor Mack and mia

  • @LonDonTaylor.
    @LonDonTaylor. Před 2 lety +15

    It's a strong contest between who the ultimate killer was, Lucas or Gray ? Lucas was maniac haha

    • @andybrookes4721
      @andybrookes4721 Před 2 lety +8

      Yh but Lucas is redeemable unlike Gray who is beyond help

    • @H.K.5
      @H.K.5 Před 2 lety +7

      Lucas was a maniac but he had a heart, Gray doesn't.

    • @LonDonTaylor.
      @LonDonTaylor. Před 2 lety +3

      @@H.K.5 until God tells him that Lucas should cleanse the earth loool

    • @ececlips9155
      @ececlips9155 Před 2 lety

      @@H.K.5 And he could fight.

    • @ececlips9155
      @ececlips9155 Před 2 lety +1

      Lucas is easily Eastenders' best antagonist.

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 Před 2 lety +7

    So sad that they break up.

  • @liammcallister5850
    @liammcallister5850 Před 2 lety +4

    Mitch is right about Gray was Karen's blue eye boy.
    She was too busy defending Gray all the time

  • @damuri22
    @damuri22 Před 2 lety +8

    Really hope Mack/Mia don't grow up to be just like their father

  • @benmullins7868
    @benmullins7868 Před 2 lety +2

    If Mitch really knew what Gray was like, he wouldn’t have driven Chelsea back to Gray’s house when she was clearly terrified of him

  • @inaamishtiaq6322
    @inaamishtiaq6322 Před 2 lety +16

    shame on Karen for believing gray

  • @jonathanwilliams7946
    @jonathanwilliams7946 Před 2 lety +12

    She kept grey in her house . And that is your answer .

  • @abbieroseholden4174
    @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +8

    Okay I get it Mitch is right Karen should've listened however, Mitch should've stepped in as soon as he suspected he was beating Chantelle. Mitch come on do NOT let Gray ruin your life anymore!!! He will win

    • @dynahvelvixin.8615
      @dynahvelvixin.8615 Před 2 lety +2

      He wasn't 100% sure Gray was beating Chantelle he just knew there was something about him.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dynahvelvixin.8615 the only person to blame for this is Gray. Otherwise that means Chantelle is to blame for not saying anything but she isn't to the outside world she had it all little did everyone know Gray was beating her. Its his fault Gray never loved her he just used her as a punchbag.

    • @fastvalkary725
      @fastvalkary725 Před rokem

      @@abbieroseholden4174 before Chantelle died Mitch never knew exactly what Gray was doing to Chantelle, he certainly didn't know he was beating her he just saw something off about Gray. And it's not all down to Mitch to stop Gray it was down to Chantelle to tell anyone in her family what was really happening. Mitch had zero proof or an idea of what was going on.

  • @Vic35102
    @Vic35102 Před 2 lety +5

    Karen what's blinded by grey's status And life

  • @deanc8597
    @deanc8597 Před 2 lety +2

    Good man

  • @lynnecrisp
    @lynnecrisp Před 2 lety +17

    Mitch is use to Karen kicking him out. Karen doesn't want to ever work thru anything w/Mitch. All she does is run from the issue. That's why Gray played her so easy. Says the spider to the fly as they say

  • @ellathreasa
    @ellathreasa Před 3 měsíci

    karen is only having a hissy fit because she knows mitch is right and she knows she's wrong and can't admit she's in the wrong

  • @danny_long_legs
    @danny_long_legs Před 2 lety +7

    That was ungrateful of Mitch go blame Karen, how the hell could she known?! Gray put the wool over your eyes!

    • @inaamishtiaq6322
      @inaamishtiaq6322 Před 2 lety +6

      He told her from the beginning that gray killed Chantelle but she didn’t believe him

    • @laurafabianmarrero8614
      @laurafabianmarrero8614 Před 2 lety +2

      @Riley and look were that got her .

    • @OmarAli-ku3de
      @OmarAli-ku3de Před 2 lety +2

      Ungrateful? At first he wasn’t even mentioning her, he said he knew all along, she made the dig like she’s done all these years to him that he’s never been there and that obviously hit a nerve knowing that their daughter was killed by her husband and that Mitch had suspicions all along whilst Karen never ever tried to once hear the others out! She’s got a very big part to deal with it…

  • @CammyTheSportsEntertainer
    @CammyTheSportsEntertainer Před 2 lety +12

    To an extent. Mitch is correct. Karen blatantly sucked up to Gray Chantelle couldn't ever tell Karen if Gray was abusive. Karen probably wouldn't have believed Chantelle either. Mitch was right and I'm glad he told her how it was. If it wasn't for Karen I think Chantelle could've been able to tell Mitch what Gray was like.

    • @Borninthe80s.
      @Borninthe80s. Před 2 lety +1

      She didn’t say anything because she was terrified of gray Chantelle had plenty of opportunities to tell Mitch but she didn’t because she was scared

    • @CammyTheSportsEntertainer
      @CammyTheSportsEntertainer Před 2 lety +6

      @@Borninthe80s. I get that, I do. I know people who've been in abusive relationships. However, Karen really sucked up to Gray because he was rich. That certainly did Chantelle no favours. Chantelle actually once came very close to telling Mitch but didn't in the end. I just don't think Karen would've believed Chantelle. Chantelle dying obviously isn't Karen's fault, Mitch was wrong there. Gray's a POS who's a brutal killer. However, I think Karen was a big detriment if Chantelle had any chance of coming forward. You may disagree and that's fine, it's a matter of opinion. I just don't think Karen helped at all.

    • @Borninthe80s.
      @Borninthe80s. Před 2 lety +1

      @@CammyTheSportsEntertainer Karen’s an airhead but even I think she would have believed it if Chantelle told her but it was always going to end up with Chantelle dying as that’s what was in the script

    • @CammyTheSportsEntertainer
      @CammyTheSportsEntertainer Před 2 lety +1

      @@Borninthe80s. it's sad she died. I think from a production POV having her die was the right call. Eastenders are done domestic abuse stories where the victim has survived. But it doesn't always happen so for once they have the victim die. Still sad though and I'm glad Gray got his comeuppance.

  • @ASS-tb3mq
    @ASS-tb3mq Před 2 lety +10

    Mitch has no right to speak yes he knew about gray being bad I can respect that but 1 he was never there for Chantelle if he was she would’ve never even married him and 2 he never pressed hard enough to get an answer out of Chantelle i mean your her dad

  • @shakhelapordimba
    @shakhelapordimba Před 2 lety

    karen was grays puppet he knew how to keep Karen hypnotized

  • @simplyphoenix3629
    @simplyphoenix3629 Před 2 lety +1

    My Nan just died 3 weeks ago on the 15th March.

  • @thomaswhalley7088
    @thomaswhalley7088 Před 4 měsíci

    they should be mad at Gray for what he did to their daughter chantelle

  • @amywhitmell1997
    @amywhitmell1997 Před 2 lety

    I loved Chantelle in EastEnders because she was always beautiful and very pretty 💖

  • @glennkitson5862
    @glennkitson5862 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing acting from Isaac Lemons and Mahela Malcolm's Mackenzie Aktins and Mia Aktins
    And Roger Griffiths Mitch Bakery
    And Lorraine Stanlet Karen Bakery

  • @gemmaaboagye8951
    @gemmaaboagye8951 Před 2 lety

    Couldn't karen see how agressive grey was

  • @kimgaffney7277
    @kimgaffney7277 Před 2 lety +1

    Did'nt mitch fetch chelsea back when she tried to get away from gray short memory

  • @craigwaters1508
    @craigwaters1508 Před 2 lety

    😱😱

  • @eastendersfan2363
    @eastendersfan2363 Před 2 lety +6

    A bit unfair of mitch to blame Karen she couldn't have known what gray was capable of he had suspicions of gray not being right and let it go so instead of blaming each other they should pull together for the grandkids sakes

    • @hsz_xk
      @hsz_xk Před 2 lety +6

      Mitch tried explaining it to her and she kept refusing to even listen, Karen was too blind cos gray was rich and had a good job so he isn't wrong

    • @mrdr0161
      @mrdr0161 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hsz_xk no she was blind because he spent like 10 years manipulating her into thinking he was perfect. Not because he was rich

    • @hsz_xk
      @hsz_xk Před 2 lety +6

      @@mrdr0161 him being rich was one of the reasons why she thought he was perfect

  • @winter_blix
    @winter_blix Před 2 lety +6

    HE BLAMED HER WHAT?

  • @thatskingbooker
    @thatskingbooker Před 2 lety +9

    Okay and how would it be Karen’s fault

    • @javarnsylvan2528
      @javarnsylvan2528 Před 2 lety +9

      He was suspicious from the start but Karen wouldn't believe him

    • @thatskingbooker
      @thatskingbooker Před 2 lety +4

      @@javarnsylvan2528 oh I see , they could’ve kept a closer eye on Gray if she did

    • @dynahvelvixin.8615
      @dynahvelvixin.8615 Před 2 lety +4

      Mitch said there was something about Gray and Karen didn't believe it.

  • @lloyddenvermckay1410
    @lloyddenvermckay1410 Před 2 lety

    Don't think Karen & Mitch are to blame. This is all on Gray. He's 100% at fault for beating & then murderering Chantelle. Poor Mack & Mia - they're now have to live with the facts that their father is a bad man & he killed their mother!

  • @jameliakingstom1190
    @jameliakingstom1190 Před 2 lety

    U know I really don’t understand y everyone r having a go at Karen at the end of the day understand it from her view she didn’t see the signs neither did Mitch and if he had such a strong opinion he would’ve done something about it months ago but no he left it and now blames Karen for everything

    • @jameliakingstom1190
      @jameliakingstom1190 Před 2 lety

      And how else do u expect her to react when ur daughters husband ur grandkids dad is being accused of murder ur just supposed to roll over and believe ur right no she had no reason to believe and in the end she did the right thing when she catches on with his lies and that’s when she knew

  • @glennkitson5862
    @glennkitson5862 Před 2 lety

    Aktins family Gary Aktins Toby Alexandre Smith Chantal Aktins Jess Plumber Mackenzie Aktins Isaac Lemons Mia Aktins Mahela Malcolm's

  • @salmon4703
    @salmon4703 Před 2 lety +3

    Mitch has no right at all. He was inconsistent in his daughter's life. If anyone is to blame here it is Mitch.

    • @OmarAli-ku3de
      @OmarAli-ku3de Před 2 lety

      Ok inconsistency shouldn’t be blamed if the girl didn’t love the father which in this case isn’t true because Chantelle still loved her dad Mitch, course he has a right if she still called him dad… blame for actually listening to the right person last year which was kheerat. If Mitch didn’t go to Whitney and he didn’t tell Karen what he knew she wouldn’t have asked him if the things were true because Mitch wouldn’t have known and he could have been off with the kids because Karen is as thick as anything. He’s to blame but Karen much worse

    • @231natasha
      @231natasha Před 2 lety +1

      i blame Mitch and deep down he knows it's his fault. If he was in his daughters life from the get go and had a relationship with her before the marriage. Maybe there would be no Gray.
      A father/ father figure is supposed to protect his Daughter. They can see things that sometimes we as women are blind too.
      It is Mitch's fault 100%

    • @blinktwice4541
      @blinktwice4541 Před 2 lety +1

      @@231natasha the person at fault is gray lmao, "100% mitchs fault" my ass lol. he was saying how it is lol, he knew from the start that there was something wrong with gray but she wouldn't listen and dismiss him.

  • @paulclarke3182
    @paulclarke3182 Před 2 lety +1

    Mitch was out of order here

  • @jaredporikos2197
    @jaredporikos2197 Před 2 lety +1

    Team Karen

  • @anesseameer
    @anesseameer Před 2 lety +2

    Keegan pissed me off needs to do one so can Karen she's annoying as well do one aswell

  • @liamkenyon75
    @liamkenyon75 Před 2 lety +2

    Bad acting from the kids playing mac and mia very wooden

    • @lloydr64able
      @lloydr64able Před 2 lety

      The whole family appart from gray, cant act!

    • @paulclarke3182
      @paulclarke3182 Před 2 lety +2

      Get a grip they're only about 9 years old
      People you like piss me off.

    • @liamkenyon75
      @liamkenyon75 Před 2 lety

      @freeland That's no excuse